egg Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 According to an agent on twitter agents won't deal with us. See below: " @FootballAgent46: Lots of people ask about Southampton deals. A lot of you on Twitter! They are so tricky to deal with now most agents and clubs don't bother" Worrying if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 Let the Cortese bashing... COMMENCE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 unless it means we are getting players who want to play for us rather than come for the cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambol2K9 Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 This could just be one agents biased view after a deal went down. I wouldnt plan the 'Cortese Out' protest march quite yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 unless it means we are getting players who want to play for us rather than come for the cash. Probably. I can imagine that agents come to us all the time now we have money, Cortese tells them 90% of the time that we really are not interested in said player, please jog along. Then when we really want someone, we move in for the kill. He's probably got a bee in his bonnet because NC's upset him recently when he has offered us a sh*t 3rd choice, 5 yard pass dificult reject from Ipswich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 Can only really see us being "tricky to deal with" in one way - selling players. In terms of bringing people into the building: Saints: "We will give X Club £------ for ------" X Club: "OK, that's good enough" ----:"Would love to join Saints" Agent:"They're tricky to deal with, i'm not interested. Can't see this happeneing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofarnorth Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 Well if they wont deal with us then hopefully Chamberlains going nowhere. I also think we are going to be looking abroad more than other championship clubs for Guly esque deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 Those vultures will deal with us when they serve to gain something from it. In the mean time, f**k 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 I think this comment has been taken out of proportion to be quite honest. Typical alarmist overreaction that some people seem to enjoy acting out. Agents are there to tout players to anyone who will listen. They are PAID to do so. I suspect it's a case of an agent phoning someone at the Club and saying; "I've got XYZ here, fancies a Championship club down south. Would you be interested?" and our reply is "No". Why is it no? Because we decide our targets ourselves (utilising our ever expanding scouting network) and if we want a player, WE will make the move for him. We won't bite at a suggestion just because it's been offered to us. Perhaps we've rebuffed a fair few, and small wonder. Everyone knows we've got money and are ambitious. We are probably a prime target for agents. People need to relax and have a bit of faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 21 June, 2011 Author Share Posted 21 June, 2011 Can only really see us being "tricky to deal with" in one way - selling players. In terms of bringing people into the building: Saints: "We will give X Club £------ for ------" X Club: "OK, that's good enough" ----:"Would love to join Saints" Agent:"They're tricky to deal with, i'm not interested. Can't see this happeneing. Makes sense, but what about the clubs won't deal with us part? One interpretation could be that we are unrealistic when we try to buy. Kind of ties in with the mcs thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 A lot people will believe anything. A lot of people are very, very, very thick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 Clubs sell players, not agents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 Makes sense, but what about the clubs won't deal with us part? One interpretation could be that we are unrealistic when we try to buy. Kind of ties in with the mcs thread. Then they can keep their players, if they don't want the money we'll go elsewhere. If the money's right anyone will sell to anyone. Even if it is Puncheon to Newcastle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopkins Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 Sounds like a bitter agent to me. Especially when you consider last time the details came out we were quite high in giving out agent fees. Also the idea that clubs sell players and not agents is naive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 21 June, 2011 Author Share Posted 21 June, 2011 Sounds like a bitter agent to me. Especially when you consider last time the details came out we were quite high in giving out agent fees. May well be, hopefully so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 I'd frankly forgotten Puncheon was even on our books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 A lot people will believe anything. A lot of people are very, very, very thick. Twitter, and any text only medium is a very very blunt tool. We don't know this guy's motivations, we do not know if he has dealt with us before. Christ, imagine if he's Elliott Ward's agent! These things will always require a pinch of salt, not that I care much for agents anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 Just think that it is strange that I seem to remember last year he had nothing but good things to say about us and our board. Now he comes out with that? Wonder what has changed or whether a recent deal has fallen through or something ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 To be honest I haven't been Cortese's biggest fan but this kind of thing makes me happy. There's a lot of stupid prices being quoted for average players - we do need to strengthen but we don't need to spend over the top for them. If we're ****ing off agents then we're probably doing something right and didn't Blackpool refuse to deal with agents? Didn't do them any harm and I'd guess we're not being as extreme as that anyway. I think we will get better players in, but at this level we still have no guarantee that more money = better player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkySaint Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 Of course its true. We've signed no-one since Cortese got on the bus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 Agents days are numbered hopefully . Club, player, club, agents are superfluous and only serve to artificially inflate deals for their own benefit. A ridiculous situation imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 A ridiculous situation imho. Not at all, it just means we're all in the wrong trade! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilko Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 Would you trust a football agent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 Agents days are numbered hopefully . Club, player, club, agents are superfluous and only serve to artificially inflate deals for their own benefit. A ridiculous situation imho. Agreed. And I don't believe for a second that an agent would refuse to deal with Saints if it meant he didn't get paid. Sounds like sour grapes on Twitter from someone who couldn't get the money he was asking for a player to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cestrian Saint Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 Somebody needs to make a stand against agents. They're ruining the game. I hope this is the start of something and that other clubs take a similar stand against these charlatans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 Would you trust a football agent? About as much as I would trust the guy who sold me my first car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkySaint Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 1. If it helps us keep hold of our players then surely its a good thing 2. For every agent that doesn't want to deal with us there a 10 who do 3. If a player wants to get on the bus he will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 This only fuels the whole paranoia regarding transfers this summer. It really needs to stop. One minute its praise for Adkins and Cortese for delivering Championship football as they said they would, the next it's 'we're not going to sign anyone, what are they doing?'. Make up your minds, doubters. My advice would be to sit back and wait. It's not as if we're the only club not to sign anyone this summer. There are LOADS of them. It's not even July yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 3. If a player wants to get on the bus he will A fear i've had is this: In league 1 we were one of the biggest fish. In this league we are now an upstart. Many other clubs will be attractive to players over us. (Promoted League 1 side, ambitious, but then so are Cardiff, Leicester, Forest, West 'Am etc) We want to attract players that can 'step up' with our ambition......... so do they..... and they probably are not adverse to playing the status quo for their gain. Is taking a stand against these things counter productive? It could be noble, but also the equivalent of shooting ourselves in the foot. Of course this assumes we are being difficult, it could just be one tw*t agent spreading muck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 A lot people will believe anything. A lot of people are very, very, very thick. As are the people who won't even entertain for a moment that there could be just an ounce of truth to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 Agents eputomise (sp) money haemhoraging (sp) from the game. Let's not forget that 'arry's still got friends out there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 If it means NC is getting up some agents nose, well done. He should call the tune, he's the chairman , agents have done more harm than good, our NC might even be the person to bring some sense back into our once lovely game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 If it means NC is getting up some agents nose, well done. He should call the tune, he's the chairman , agents have done more harm than good, our NC might even be the person to bring some sense back into our once lovely game. Sadly, like FIFA the whole thing may be too self interested to want to change. Don't bid for a world cup unless you have budgeted for greasing many palms, and don't bid for a player unless you lubricate the agent, after all, he will return the favour. Or is this too cynical? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musesaint Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 According to an agent on twitter agents won't deal with us. See below: " @FootballAgent46: Lots of people ask about Southampton deals. A lot of you on Twitter! They are so tricky to deal with now most agents and clubs don't bother" Worrying if true. What utter sh*t*e Agents smell money - they deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 Some people will excuse anything. IF (big if) this is true and we are missing out on players because agents and clubs do not want to deal with us, then I can't see any positive no matter what anyone tries to spin on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 Would you trust a football agent? would you trust a football manager or chairman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 What utter sh*t*e Agents smell money - they deal It must be sh*te, it's something negative about the club. Has to be rubbish. I wider if your reaction would have been the same had it been a nice positive tweet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EBS1980 Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 He has commented again "Funny reading peoples responses to Saints tweet. Relax guys very non specific comment just word round the agent campfire Twitter for BlackBerry® • 21/06/2011 23:01" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 Funny reading peoples responses to Saints tweet. Relax guys very non specific comment just word round the agent campfire A hasty retreat. Clearly doesn't want to associate himself with the comment anymore. 'Just word round the agent campfire'. Utter tripe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 He has commented again "Funny reading peoples responses to Saints tweet. Relax guys very non specific comment just word round the agent campfire Twitter for BlackBerry® • 21/06/2011 23:01" So, reading between the lines. D*ck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 As are the people who won't even entertain for a moment that there could be just an ounce of truth to this. Whereas the sensible people are those who only formulate their opinions based on sound facts. This particular little story hasn't produced anything factual yet, just idle gossip and speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 It must be sh*te, it's something negative about the club. Has to be rubbish. I wider if your reaction would have been the same had it been a nice positive tweet? If this really is true wouldn't you expect to see it reported on other sites / newspapers by now rather than on just one faceless twitter account? The media haven't been shy to put the boot in before so surley if we'd p*ssed off the football community to the point that no agents or clubs want to deal with us the sun, mail, echo etc would have reported it by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 21 June, 2011 Author Share Posted 21 June, 2011 He has commented again "Funny reading peoples responses to Saints tweet. Relax guys very non specific comment just word round the agent campfire Twitter for BlackBerry® • 21/06/2011 23:01" I was more relaxed when I thought it was just one bitter agent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 So all the football league chairman go to Malta for their jollies, and yet all the football agents can afford to do is go camping? Surely football as a whole can find a way to get more money into the pockets of these fine upstanding gents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 According to an agent on twitter agents won't deal with us. See below: " @FootballAgent46: Lots of people ask about Southampton deals. A lot of you on Twitter! They are so tricky to deal with now most agents and clubs don't bother" Worrying if true. Who gives a toss what one nobber says on Twitter? The fact we have signed loads of players over the last two season would suggest this is ********. Anyone who takes this seriously is a testicle themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 It must be sh*te, it's something negative about the club. Has to be rubbish. I wider if your reaction would have been the same had it been a nice positive tweet? Testicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 21 June, 2011 Author Share Posted 21 June, 2011 Who gives a toss what one nobber says on Twitter? The fact we have signed loads of players over the last two season would suggest this is ********. Anyone who takes this seriously is a testicle themselves. I'm glad you know for a fact that this is untrue. What a relief. Truth is though that none of us know the truth. If there is any truth in it we have to be worried. Lets just see what the summer brings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat from Poole Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 Clubs sell players, not agents Well, not entirely. Most clubs also employ agents to sell their players, touting them around for the best price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 Why agents are even needed baffles me. If i was a professional footballer or sportsman I'd like to think that I'd be able to negotiate my own deals without being mugged off. I don't buy into the "they need to concentrate on football"nonsense either.... They are done by lunch every day FFS. Football would be a better place if players took the time to live in the real world so there would be no place for the parasites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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