Greenridge Posted 1 July, 2014 Share Posted 1 July, 2014 Osvaldo and Ramirez have given me a very poor impression of an attacking player that has any sort of Italian football experience. So I'm quite happy if we don't sign this fella. Philippe Coutinho? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 1 July, 2014 Share Posted 1 July, 2014 http://www.vi.nl/web/nieuws/feyenoord-weer-gezond-na-transfers-pelle-en-martins-indi-.htm?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=nieuws&channel=phone Feyenoord paying off debts with the Martins Indi and (probably) Pelle money. According to that they're looking for 12 mill, big money for a forward from the Dutch league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 1 July, 2014 Share Posted 1 July, 2014 According to that they're looking for 12 mill, big money for a forward from the Dutch league. Euros, that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 1 July, 2014 Share Posted 1 July, 2014 From what I've been told the deal is done between the clubs, its just personal terms and medical to be done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 1 July, 2014 Share Posted 1 July, 2014 Euros, that is. King of the clowns me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 1 July, 2014 Share Posted 1 July, 2014 Euros, that is. Still that's £10million odd for a striker who is 29 in 12 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoPints Posted 1 July, 2014 Share Posted 1 July, 2014 Buy buy buy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 July, 2014 Share Posted 1 July, 2014 It's a lot of money tbh, but as I've said - to have that sort of goal ratio at any level means you have something about you. A goal scorer is a goal scorer, put him in L1, NPC, PL, International - if he's a goal scorer and gets the service, he will score goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 1 July, 2014 Share Posted 1 July, 2014 From what I've been told the deal is done between the clubs, its just personal terms and medical to be done Thats wrong. Our offer hasnt been accepted according to Dutch media, who are probably closer to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 1 July, 2014 Share Posted 1 July, 2014 It's a lot of money tbh, but as I've said - to have that sort of goal ratio at any level means you have something about you. A goal scorer is a goal scorer, put him in L1, NPC, PL, International - if he's a goal scorer and gets the service, he will score goals. He's the sort of player that with Ramirez, Tasic etc around him, he'll score goals. Plenty of chances to be tucked away potentially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 July, 2014 Share Posted 1 July, 2014 He's the sort of player that with Ramirez, Tasic etc around him, he'll score goals. Plenty of chances to be tucked away potentially. Exactly, and Tadic has a delivery to die for.... but don't think Gaston will be around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 From what I've been told the deal is done between the clubs, its just personal terms and medical to be done According to the Mail our £5m offer has been rebuffed by Feyenoord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 According to the Mail our £5m offer has been rebuffed by Feyenoord Can't be the Mail............ they'd struggle to spell " Feyenoord " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 Mail just took that from the Dutch media yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 Mail just took that from the Dutch media yesterday. " What sort of cheese was that then ??? " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 Take a cr4p or get off the pot Saints. Fannying around with silly bids while Koeman starts pre-season without a strike force appears to be a bit noddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 Thats wrong. Our offer hasnt been accepted according to Dutch media, who are probably closer to it. why would you assume that the Dutch media are any more reliable that a contact in the UK (Southampton) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 Take a cr4p or get off the pot Saints. Fannying around with silly bids while Koeman starts pre-season without a strike force appears to be a bit noddy. Perhaps our "difficult financial situation" was more difficult than you'd think. If we are intending to spend all we receive and more on team strengthening as reported then we must be looking at a large number of mid to low priced layers by PL standards. Why bid 5 million when you know that the asking price is 10, I mean it's not as if Koeman wouldn't know that is it. We're trying to sell for a lot and buy for little, then again perhaps that's the way they do things at Green Bay Packers. At the end of the day come August we'll probably have a cheap team and cheap kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 From what I've been told the deal is done between the clubs, its just personal terms and medical to be done But I believe you've been told wrongly before haven't you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JxgrSaint Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 @SkySportsAmy: Southampton have made a bid for Feyenoord's Graziano Pelle, we understand. @SkySportsNews Maybe this time it's a fresh, less 'derisory' bid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 [h=3]11:09[/h] And Sky Sports sources also understand that Southampton have made an offer for Feyenoord striker Graziano Pelle. It is understood that the bid is below Feyenoord's £9.5million valuation of Pelle, who has spent the last two seasons playing under new Southampton boss Ronald Koeman at De Kuip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 11:09 And Sky Sports sources also understand that Southampton have made an offer for Feyenoord striker Graziano Pelle. It is understood that the bid is below Feyenoord's £9.5million valuation of Pelle, who has spent the last two seasons playing under new Southampton boss Ronald Koeman at De Kuip. FFS. Offer them the €12M. Do the deal. Stop trying to save pocket change (in relative terms.) Then move on to the next transfer target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 Just because we have the funds it doesn't mean we should just go straight in with the asking price, I'm glad we're still bartering for players otherwise all our future bargaining powers will be non existent. People need to stop panicking, it's day 2 of pre-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 FFS. Offer them the €12M. Do the deal. Stop trying to save pocket change (in relative terms.) Then move on to the next transfer target. Don't bother applying for a job at Tesco as a buyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 FFS. Offer them the €12M. Do the deal. Stop trying to save pocket change (in relative terms.) Then move on to the next transfer target. Pocket change? If we save £2-3m through negotiations then that could pay for a senior players wages for a year. Glad that the Lallana/Shaw money isn't burning a whole through Uncle Les' pocket, and we are trying to get maximum value from transfers in and out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 We're rubbish at this negotiating malarkey. First we get top dollar on the sales and we bid low for purchases. Do we know what we're doing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 We're rubbish at this negotiating malarkey. First we get top dollar on the sales and we bid low for purchases. Do we know what we're doing? ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 We're rubbish at this negotiating malarkey. First we get top dollar on the sales and we bid low for purchases. Do we know what we're doing? We should follow the big 4 model of buy high, sell low, make up the difference by screwing FFP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 Pocket change? If we save £2-3m through negotiations then that could pay for a senior players wages for a year. Glad that the Lallana/Shaw money isn't burning a whole through Uncle Les' pocket, and we are trying to get maximum value from transfers in and out. Agree - £2-3m is a huge chunk of cash. Paid for Fonte, SRL and Cork! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 But I believe you've been told wrongly before haven't you ? ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 http://www.benefoot.net/we-were-wrong-an-ode-to-graziano-pelle/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 http://www.benefoot.net/we-were-wrong-an-ode-to-graziano-pelle/ Ha! I love the part where Pelle is scouted and tapped up by Koeman's son's girlfriend! I wonder if he still has the same one and if she transfers to Saints too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 Ha! I love the part where Pelle is scouted and tapped up by Koeman's son's girlfriend! I wonder if he still has the same one and if she transfers to Saints too. Yeah its quite bizzare that part! Great article compared to the norm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 http://www.benefoot.net/we-were-wrong-an-ode-to-graziano-pelle/ Interesting that he plays most of the game with his back to goal. What I'd like to know, and the article doesn't tell me, is what transformed him from a striker with a poor goal scoring record into a prolific striker at Feyenoord. This would give us an indication of how we might play next season, should we sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 Bid accepted according to Ad.nl Southampton voldoet aan vraagprijs Pellè Southampton heeft een nieuw bod op Graziano Pellè uitgebracht. VolgensLa Gazzetta dello Sport wil de nieuwe club van trainer Ronald Koeman 12 miljoen euro betalen voor de topscorer van Feyenoord. Dat zou ook de vraagprijs zijn van de Rotterdamse club. Gisteren werd een lager bod van Southampton nog afgewimpeld door Feyenoord. Maar een reünie tussen Koeman en Pellè lijkt nu echt aanstaande. Eerder trok Southampton al Dusan Tadic van FC Twente aan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 Nearing agreement. 8m (not sure if euros) plus bonuses. Source: @VI_nl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 Nearing agreement. 8m (not sure if euros) plus bonuses. Source: @VI_nl I'd guess 8m euros euros if it is being reported by Voetbal International, which means £6.3m plus bonuses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 Perhaps our "difficult financial situation" was more difficult than you'd think. If we are intending to spend all we receive and more on team strengthening as reported then we must be looking at a large number of mid to low priced layers by PL standards. Why bid 5 million when you know that the asking price is 10, I mean it's not as if Koeman wouldn't know that is it. We're trying to sell for a lot and buy for little, then again perhaps that's the way they do things at Green Bay Packers. At the end of the day come August we'll probably have a cheap team and cheap kit. It's because they are asset stripping, like you thought all along. Right mate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 http://www.vi.nl/nieuws/feyenoord-en-southampton-naderen-akkoord-over-pelle.htm?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=nieuws Feyenoord and Southampton approaching agreement on Pellè Feyenoord en Southampton naderen akkoord over Pellè Graziano Pellè makes almost certainly switched to Southampton, now the trainer Ronald Koeman's new club has reached an agreement in principle with Feyenoord. It would be according to insiders go to a transfer fee of around eight million euros fixed, supplemented by all kinds of bonuses, which are still subject of conversation. Southampton has money in cash. Shaw sold The Saints Luke and Adam Lallana to Manchester United and Liverpool respectively for about 65 million euros. Koeman should reinvest a large portion of that money and allows the arrival of Dusan Tadic (FC Twente) and especially Pellè as top priority. The trainer also knows that Feyenoord itself does not resist a departure from the Italian State, which-although extremely successful-internally also for problems. Feyenoord sees eight million plus bonuses as a great amount for the striker who is on 15 July 29 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 It's because they are asset stripping, like you thought all along. Right mate? Yes, we're aiming to sell for more than we spend I think, probably to pay off debts and the training centre. We shall see exactly who is being led up the garden path come August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 Don't shoot the messenger but I'm informed that he's due for a medical on friday along with Tadic. I guess it's standard practice to allocate time slots for medicals in case the deals are agreed in time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 £6m ish is a pretty sound bit of business, as is £8mish for Tadic. Pretty impressive start to our recruitment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 £6m ish is a pretty sound bit of business, as is £8mish for Tadic. Pretty impressive start to our recruitment. Agree, but lets not tempt fate. We all remember John Halls! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 Yes, we're aiming to sell for more than we spend I think, probably to pay off debts and the training centre. We shall see exactly who is being led up the garden path come August. Everyone, but you? Including the brothers Koeman, who you know, may have actually spoken to people at the club. I may be wrong, but I'm guessing you haven't? You've also gone from predicting a fire sale to balancing the books. The two are quite different. I know you're naturally a cynic and a pessimist, and that's fine. But I really don't think it's all as evil as you make out some times. We had a crop of good players, they got silly offers. It's unusual for it to happen, but come on we got more for Shaw and Lallana than Milan did for Silva & Zlatan. Kat had clearly committed to the training ground long before these offers were on the table. We probably won't spend £60m+ (is it m+ or +m? I never know), but that doesn't mean we won't invest and carry on. It's not the best of times, I even had a bit of a wobble. But we'll be reet. It's certainly not an asset strip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 Agree, but lets not tempt fate. We all remember John Halls! Christ, that's a blast from the past. I remember the pictures of him at Staplewood. and hours later, there he was at Reading. I think we dodged a bullet though, to be fair. He amounted to the square route of **** all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 Everyone, but you? Including the brothers Koeman, who you know, may have actually spoken to people at the club. I may be wrong, but I'm guessing you haven't? You've also gone from predicting a fire sale to balancing the books. The two are quite different. I know you're naturally a cynic and a pessimist, and that's fine. But I really don't think it's all as evil as you make out some times. We had a crop of good players, they got silly offers. It's unusual for it to happen, but come on we got more for Shaw and Lallana than Milan did for Silva & Zlatan. Kat had clearly committed to the training ground long before these offers were on the table. We probably won't spend £60m+ (is it m+ or +m? I never know), but that doesn't mean we won't invest and carry on. It's not the best of times, I even had a bit of a wobble. But we'll be reet. It's certainly not an asset strip. As I say we shall see, no point in anticipating one way or the other. I see us in August with a vastly diminished side and probably some mediocre performances from it. You see all rosy in the garden. As for Koeman who cares, an unemployed manager who may or not do well for us. We shall soon find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint77 Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 As I say we shall see, no point in anticipating one way or the other. I see us in August with a vastly diminished side and probably some mediocre performances from it. You see all rosy in the garden. As for Koeman who cares, an unemployed manager who may or not do well for us. We shall soon find out. Why do you even bother you #wat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 Why do you even bother you #wat Bother with what? I'm giving you my opinion, put me on ignore or just don't read it if you don't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 As I say we shall see, no point in anticipating one way or the other. I see us in August with a vastly diminished side and probably some mediocre performances from it. You see all rosy in the garden. As for Koeman who cares, an unemployed manager who may or not do well for us. We shall soon find out. I'm not saying its rosy. I'm not saying we'll be better than last season. I don't think we will. I'm being realistic. Look up what a fire sale is. The term has been thrown around a lot on here, it's not what is happening. Harsh on Koeman, unemployed because he left a job he had done very well at and was mostly appreciated by the fans. Anyway, remind me how the last unemployed manager we hired went? C'mon man, it's not all so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 2 July, 2014 Share Posted 2 July, 2014 I'm not saying its rosy. I'm not saying we'll be better than last season. I don't think we will. I'm being realistic. Look up what a fire sale is. The term has been thrown around a lot on here, it's not what is happening. Harsh on Koeman, unemployed because he left a job he had done very well at and was mostly appreciated by the fans. Anyway, remind me how the last unemployed manager we hired went? C'mon man, it's not all so bad. I've never used the term fire sale myself, probably not even asset stripping. All I can see is that we're selling major players for major sums and making relatively low offers for unknowns from Holland. I think we're likely to find ourselves in shîte street in August, that thought does not please me in any way shape or form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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