SO16_Saint Posted 9 July, 2014 Share Posted 9 July, 2014 interesting: KuipTalk @KuipTalk 2m Graziano Pelle is absent at the first training of the trainings camp in Ermelo. (via @Feyenoordpings) #Feyenoord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG_Saint Posted 9 July, 2014 Share Posted 9 July, 2014 So, the deal is still in the making? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 9 July, 2014 Share Posted 9 July, 2014 (edited) UPDATE: Feyenoord10:03am via Twitter Web ClientRuud Vormer (lies) en Graziano Pellè (enkel) zijn vanwege lichte klachten achtergebleven in het spelershotel. #Feyenoord Ruud Vormer (groin) and Graziano Pelle (only) because of mild symptoms remained in the players' hotel. *could of course be ballaks re "mild symptoms" * Edited 9 July, 2014 by SO16_Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 9 July, 2014 Share Posted 9 July, 2014 (edited) He played for them last night so its unlikely he's 'striking' or off somewhere for negotiations. From all the different tweets it looks as though he definitely wants to leave but it wont necessarily be to us. Edited 9 July, 2014 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 9 July, 2014 Share Posted 9 July, 2014 Sick bastard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Carlton Posted 9 July, 2014 Share Posted 9 July, 2014 I want us to sign this guy. Perfect replacement for Rickie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia Saint Posted 9 July, 2014 Share Posted 9 July, 2014 UPDATE: Feyenoord10:03am via Twitter Web ClientRuud Vormer (lies) en Graziano Pellè (enkel) zijn vanwege lichte klachten achtergebleven in het spelershotel. #Feyenoord Ruud Vormer (groin) and Graziano Pelle (only) because of mild symptoms remained in the players' hotel. *could of course be ballaks re "mild symptoms" * If he's injured his only, we should steer clear IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickylambert Posted 9 July, 2014 Share Posted 9 July, 2014 Pelle and Ossie, it's the Italian dream ticket. Those two could be quite tasty together, they'd complement each other too. Could even be the Italian international forward line if they gelled well. Until Ossie is sold off I've got my fingers crossed for a reconciliation. Rolls of the tongue nicely, but possibly the slowest strike force ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityRanger Posted 9 July, 2014 Share Posted 9 July, 2014 Rolls of the tongue nicely, but possibly the slowest strike force ever. Mark Hughes and Egil Ostenstad would give them a (very slow) run for their money. That partnership just didn't work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckenham Saint Posted 9 July, 2014 Share Posted 9 July, 2014 Rolls of the tongue nicely, but possibly the slowest strike force ever. Lambert and Sharp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 9 July, 2014 Share Posted 9 July, 2014 (edited) Rolls of the tongue nicely, but possibly the slowest strike force ever. Dixon & (the inappropriately named) Speedie. or even Dowie & Paul Moody. All courtesy of Mr Branfoot. He clearly knew a thing or two about strikers. Edited 9 July, 2014 by Badger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 10 July, 2014 Share Posted 10 July, 2014 http://www.feyenoordpings.nl/nieuws/12978/-ac-milan-wil-koeman-te-slim-af-zijn-en-gaat-voor-pell-.html The transition from Graziano Pelle to Southampton is still uncertain. The clubs seemed to be heading off on an agreement, but according to British media Feyenoord and The Saints but disagree on the amount of the transfer fee. AC Milan seems to want to take advantage of this and see in the Feyenoord striker Mario Balotelli for a desired successor. Knows Il Sussidiario to report Thursday. It seems almost certain that Balotelli this summer leaves the Milanese club. Earlier, Berlusconi had also been negative on the striker, who in recent weeks significantly associated with Arsenal. Related When he actually went to Milan, the club would like to strengthen the Italian. According to the aforementioned newspaper Feyenoord and Southampton have been some time in negotiating Pellè but not yet come out. Feyenoord would be between ten and twelve million longing for its top scorer, while the new club Koeman does not seem to want to go over eight million further. Pellè has a commitment to mid-2017 in the Kuip, but starting this summer seems to it to be eligible for the attacker who is 29 years next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halo Stickman Posted 10 July, 2014 Share Posted 10 July, 2014 Rolls of the tongue nicely, but possibly the slowest strike force ever. It’s a shame Beattie and Basham never really got it together – sounds like they would give the opposition a right good kicking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 10 July, 2014 Share Posted 10 July, 2014 Gamesmanship over the fee I think. Might end up with Pelle going on strike. Also worth noting that the Dutch articles are referring to the English media as the source, and I don't know if they all have much clue whats happening. End of the day, its a big fee, but if RK thinks he will get us goals then its worth it - not like we don't have any money. By crude calculations we have already made a 50m profit this summer. Will not even need to spend any of our own money this summer so an extra 1 or 2m surely makes little difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckenham Saint Posted 10 July, 2014 Share Posted 10 July, 2014 an extra 1 or 2m surely makes little difference. While it would make little difference to our available resources, I think it's more the message that we would send out to other clubs by only paying what we felt necessary despite having quite a bit of cash sat behind us that is the problem with "an extra one or two million." By only paying what we say our highest offer is (potentially) we are letting other clubs know that we won't be taken the mickey of in the transfer market, even if we were quite happy taking the mickey with Liverpool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 10 July, 2014 Share Posted 10 July, 2014 While it would make little difference to our available resources, I think it's more the message that we would send out to other clubs by only paying what we felt necessary despite having quite a bit of cash sat behind us that is the problem with "an extra one or two million." By only paying what we say our highest offer is (potentially) we are letting other clubs know that we won't be taken the mickey of in the transfer market, even if we were quite happy taking the mickey with Liverpool! Of course. But at times there is a necessity. We only have one striker who looks to have a future at the club and its only just over a month until the start of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckenham Saint Posted 10 July, 2014 Share Posted 10 July, 2014 Of course. But at times there is a necessity. We only have one striker who looks to have a future at the club and its only just over a month until the start of the season. We can be playing this out with Feyenood, £8m seems pretty fair to be honest for a 29(ish) year old striker who has only ever been good at one club whilst negotiating elsewhere. I see your point, but it sounds like Pellé isn't our main striker target... (I am making that assumption both from Monks comments and our seeming-unwillingness to pay any more than we feel we need to) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 10 July, 2014 Share Posted 10 July, 2014 Of course. But at times there is a necessity. We only have one striker who looks to have a future at the club and its only just over a month until the start of the season. So you suggest panick buying? Do you really think we wont get strikers in by the deadline? I am sure the club know what they are doing and dont need any help from people with no knowledge of running a football club and far too much time on their hands telling them how to negotiate or who to buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 10 July, 2014 Share Posted 10 July, 2014 So you suggest panick buying? Do you really think we wont get strikers in by the deadline? I am sure the club know what they are doing and dont need any help from people with no knowledge of running a football club and far too much time on their hands telling them how to negotiate or who to buy. I would like to think (and I quote les reed) that we continuously have numerous targets lined up/watched in all positions.. needing strikers is hardly news for us and a crucial position. getting off to a good start in massively important in the prem. Just look at the fortunes of the last two seasons.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 10 July, 2014 Share Posted 10 July, 2014 So you suggest panick buying? Do you really think we wont get strikers in by the deadline? I am sure the club know what they are doing and dont need any help from people with no knowledge of running a football club and far too much time on their hands telling them how to negotiate or who to buy. Bern you been eating red meat? That's quite an aggressive put down to someone who was only stating his view on a forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 10 July, 2014 Share Posted 10 July, 2014 I am sure the club know what they are doing and dont need any help from people with no knowledge of running a football club and far too much time on their hands telling them how to negotiate or who to buy. I don't think Ralph is much involved anymore tbf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 10 July, 2014 Share Posted 10 July, 2014 I don't think Ralph is much involved anymore tbf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 10 July, 2014 Share Posted 10 July, 2014 So you suggest panick buying? Do you really think we wont get strikers in by the deadline? I am sure the club know what they are doing and dont need any help from people with no knowledge of running a football club and far too much time on their hands telling them how to negotiate or who to buy. Lets shut the forum down then, if we can't discuss how to run the club or manage the team. Pretty much all threads on here do one of the above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 10 July, 2014 Share Posted 10 July, 2014 I hear the hold up in the signing of Pelle is due to discussions about a package deal for 2 players with Feyenoord at the same time. Probably Clasie but no names yet....(if it´s him it can't be finished before he´s back from WC) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offix Posted 10 July, 2014 Author Share Posted 10 July, 2014 Getting Clasie would be awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 10 July, 2014 Share Posted 10 July, 2014 Getting Clasie would be awesome A Schneiderlin replacement I would suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 10 July, 2014 Share Posted 10 July, 2014 A Schneiderlin replacement I would suggest. really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 10 July, 2014 Share Posted 10 July, 2014 Lets shut the forum down then, if we can't discuss how to run the club or manage the team. Pretty much all threads on here do one of the above. As you point out, this is a forum for discussion. What I am trying to say to you and some others who do the same thing is that it is very tiresome where you have certain posters with clear agendas sniping away day in day out. I can pretty much guess what you are going to say before I open a thread. I know you will say put you on ignore but you are everywhere! Guess what, we know we need strikers, we know we need to bulk up the squad. That is happening so lets talk about who comes in and who else we are being linked with and stop with the underlying agenda that the Board dont know what they are doing. To be totally honest you usually write as if they need to come on here to find out how they should be running the club and that you are the only one who sees the problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 10 July, 2014 Share Posted 10 July, 2014 I hear the hold up in the signing of Pelle is due to discussions about a package deal for 2 players with Feyenoord at the same time. Probably Clasie but no names yet....(if it´s him it can't be finished before he´s back from WC) From who? Is your source reputable? Sorry to ask but it could have been yer mums brothers pet budgie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 10 July, 2014 Share Posted 10 July, 2014 I think its you that has an agenda against me, which is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 10 July, 2014 Share Posted 10 July, 2014 really? Central midfield, albeit far more creative. One in, one out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 10 July, 2014 Share Posted 10 July, 2014 Central midfield, albeit far more creative. One in, one out. he is not a patch on morgan IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 10 July, 2014 Share Posted 10 July, 2014 he is not a patch on morgan IMO How do you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 10 July, 2014 Share Posted 10 July, 2014 I think its you that has an agenda against me, which is fine. Not you specifically but the type of posts. You clearly are not convinced by the new Board (which I understand). What I dont understand is the need for constant posts (and it isnt just you) having a pop at them when we have just started to recruit and we dont know what the squad will look like come the start of the season. If it isnt to your liking, then great, lets have a debate about it. Thing is some people seem to have made their minds up before we know what we have. I am not a happy clapper but the negativity isnt much fun. I'll be as negative as the next person if there is a firesale, asset stripping and KL proves that she has no interest in the club and the Board turn out to be c*ap - but so far I cant see that they are doing anything wrong given the circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 10 July, 2014 Share Posted 10 July, 2014 How do you know because arsenal et all would have snapped him up instead of paying £20m+ for morgan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 10 July, 2014 Share Posted 10 July, 2014 because arsenal et all would have snapped him up instead of paying £20m+ for morgan They're after Morgan because he has proved himself in the Premiership, Clasie may well be a better player but he has not proved it in the League that the teams are playing in. They are risk averse hence they won't take the punt, they'll let someone else do it and then swoop in when/if he proves himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 10 July, 2014 Share Posted 10 July, 2014 Why are people comparing Clasie and Morgan? They're completely different players. If anything, Clasie is more like Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 10 July, 2014 Share Posted 10 July, 2014 I don't think Ralph is much involved anymore tbf But is he still cashing Saints cheques? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 10 July, 2014 Share Posted 10 July, 2014 I think its you that has an agenda against me, which is fine. Since his return, nearly all his posts have been him crying about what others are writing. Pretty apt user name which SadOldGit has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 10 July, 2014 Share Posted 10 July, 2014 But is he still cashing Saints cheques? That is not how non execs work really, they show up once or twice a year to board meetings and make a few key decisions. They're paid to attend the meetings, he's a non exec if I recall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewildered Posted 10 July, 2014 Share Posted 10 July, 2014 http://totaldutchfootball.com/2014/07/10/pelle-southampton-talks-stall/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 10 July, 2014 Share Posted 10 July, 2014 Matijn Krabbendam of Voetbal International is reporting that a fee has now been agreed at €8m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 10 July, 2014 Share Posted 10 July, 2014 Matijn Krabbendam of Voetbal International is reporting that a fee has now been agreed at €8m. So just over £6.25m (ish). Great bit of business if true - and top negotiating on our part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 10 July, 2014 Share Posted 10 July, 2014 http://www.vi.nl/web/nieuws/pelle-op-details-na-van-southampton.htm?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=nieuws&channel=phone http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.vi.nl/web/nieuws/pelle-op-details-na-van-southampton.htm%3Futm_source%3Dtwitter%26utm_medium%3Dtwitter%26utm_campaign%3Dnieuws%26channel%3Dphone&usg=ALkJrhjeSmk34BVMzFYAMFbRXlm4CLJvbg Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 10 July, 2014 Share Posted 10 July, 2014 (edited) Matijn Krabbendam of Voetbal International is reporting that a fee has now been agreed at €8m. Martijn Krabbendam @ Mkrabby · 29m # # Feyenoord and Southampton have agreement on Pellè eight million, but still bickering over some details. Nevertheless: deal in the making. different story in the Star http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/388306/Ronald-Koeman-ends-Pelle-chase-turns-to-Connor-Wickham-as-Southampton-refuse-to-overpay Edited 10 July, 2014 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoPints Posted 10 July, 2014 Share Posted 10 July, 2014 http://www.vi.nl/web/nieuws/pelle-op-details-na-van-southampton.htm?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=nieuws&channel=phone http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.vi.nl/web/nieuws/pelle-op-details-na-van-southampton.htm%3Futm_source%3Dtwitter%26utm_medium%3Dtwitter%26utm_campaign%3Dnieuws%26channel%3Dphone&usg=ALkJrhjeSmk34BVMzFYAMFbRXlm4CLJvbg Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I was wondering who they would announce at or before the press conference tomorrow. I couldn't believe Ronnie would turn up without more good news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldridge Posted 10 July, 2014 Share Posted 10 July, 2014 I was wondering who they would announce at or before the press conference tomorrow. I couldn't believe Ronnie would turn up without more good news. Would be a bit of a stretch. Was a good few days of Tadic being reportedly signed before it was officially announced. I'd give it a week or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoPints Posted 10 July, 2014 Share Posted 10 July, 2014 Would be a bit of a stretch. Was a good few days of Tadic being reportedly signed before it was officially announced. I'd give it a week or two. The article mentioned that both clubs hope to reach agreement on Friday. From all reports, Tadic was talking about joining other clubs before coming here but it seems that Pelle wants to stay with Ronnie. Could therefore be done quickly. Deal agreed in the morning, medical lunchtime, press conference 3pm. Job done. Unless there's someone else of course :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austsaint Posted 10 July, 2014 Share Posted 10 July, 2014 I was wondering who they would announce at or before the press conference tomorrow. I couldn't believe Ronnie would turn up without more good news. What about Vlaar being unveiled. Return of the two Ronnies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoPints Posted 10 July, 2014 Share Posted 10 July, 2014 What about Vlaar being unveiled. Return of the two Ronnies. That'd be good but he's still in Brazil playing a meaningless 3rd place play off. So we probably won't announce him and Classie until next week :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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