Bucks Saint Posted 4 July, 2014 Share Posted 4 July, 2014 You're the one who brought up a completely irrelevant comparison. It was totally relevant. A 29 year old who has no Prem experience (but is top scorer in the Dutch top flight) should be avoided coz he cant be any good. A 30 year old with no Prem experience, or top flight experience anywhere, did extremely well. Go figure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 4 July, 2014 Share Posted 4 July, 2014 It was totally relevant. A 29 year old who has no Prem experience (but is top scorer in the Dutch top flight) should be avoided coz he cant be any good. A 30 year old with no Prem experience, or top flight experience anywhere, did extremely well. Go figure That thirty year old was already playing for us. Comparing a potential transfer in with a player starting his fourth season at the same club is an irrelevant comparison. Go figure that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 4 July, 2014 Share Posted 4 July, 2014 That thirty year old was already playing for us. Comparing a potential transfer in with a player starting his fourth season at the same club is an irrelevant comparison. Go figure that. I am not one of those making the case that a 29 year old without any Prem experience should be avoided. If someone has seen him play regularly and seen some flaws that might be an issue here, fair enough. But a flat rejection based on age and no Prem past is so blatantly dumb that it justifies a SRL comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 4 July, 2014 Share Posted 4 July, 2014 I am not one of those making the case that a 29 year old without any Prem experience should be avoided. If someone has seen him play regularly and seen some flaws that might be an issue here, fair enough. But a flat rejection based on age and no Prem past is so blatantly dumb that it justifies a SRL comparison Who has flatly rejected him? I think people are allowed to have reservations at a high price for a player that old. Making an utterly irrelevant comparison doesn't make the case for signing Pelle stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 4 July, 2014 Share Posted 4 July, 2014 I can see why saints don't want to pay over the odds for player who only has couple years of his peak level left. By then Sam Gallagher will have hopefully matured into top class striker. Sure that's what Saints are expecting Sent from my HTC One SV using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 4 July, 2014 Share Posted 4 July, 2014 I can see why saints don't want to pay over the odds for player who only has couple years of his peak level left. By then Sam Gallagher will have hopefully matured into top class striker. Sure that's what Saints are expecting Sent from my HTC One SV using Tapatalk Hmm, that might take more than a couple of years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 4 July, 2014 Share Posted 4 July, 2014 .....Go figure Are you American? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 4 July, 2014 Share Posted 4 July, 2014 lets face it we is fooked Because we are trying to sign him or because we haven't managed it yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 4 July, 2014 Share Posted 4 July, 2014 He won't sign. That's a bit optimistic for you Blakey.....been drinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 4 July, 2014 Share Posted 4 July, 2014 Who has flatly rejected him? I think people are allowed to have reservations at a high price for a player that old. Making an utterly irrelevant comparison doesn't make the case for signing Pelle stronger. Here is one in the last page, there are plenty of others. I definitely have worries about going for 29 year old with no prem experience. At the end of the day guess have to trust Koeman that isn't going to be flop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modern matron Posted 7 July, 2014 Share Posted 7 July, 2014 Anyone got an ITK update on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 7 July, 2014 Share Posted 7 July, 2014 Here is one in the last page, there are plenty of others. That's clearly not a "flat rejection" is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 7 July, 2014 Share Posted 7 July, 2014 That's clearly not a "flat rejection" is it? I give in. No mention of price, just concern about no Prem experience at age 29. There are plenty of others but if you read them all differently and cant see any reason at all for SRL comparison, I am off to check my yoghurt sell by date Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rees Posted 7 July, 2014 Share Posted 7 July, 2014 This one's gone a bit quiet recently, good news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 7 July, 2014 Share Posted 7 July, 2014 i think he's too old for the value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 7 July, 2014 Share Posted 7 July, 2014 (edited) i think he's too old for the value. He could be our main striker for the next 3 or 4 years. For a £100m+ turnover company, £8m on a Premier League striker isn't a lot if we get 3 or 4 years out of him. Edited 7 July, 2014 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 7 July, 2014 Share Posted 7 July, 2014 Pelle was in training with Feyenoord today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 7 July, 2014 Share Posted 7 July, 2014 (edited) Can't quite work out what's happening with this one. The media seem convinced we are going to sign him but he still seems to be involved at Feyenoord. I wonder whether our interest is a bit of a red herring and we are actually after someone else? Edited 7 July, 2014 by Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 July, 2014 Share Posted 7 July, 2014 Can't quite work out what's happening this one. The media seem convinced we are going to sign him but he still seems to be involved at Feyenoord. I wonder whether our interest is a bit of a red herring and we are actually after someone else? I think we want him for sure, but I don't think the club feel he's worth what Feyernord want. - which I'd tend to agree with. £10m for a 29 year old, unproven in a top league, is a hell of a gamble IMO. I'm sure both clubs will reach an agreement in the end, but Feyernord won't get exactly what they want IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 7 July, 2014 Share Posted 7 July, 2014 Can't quite work out what's happening this one. The media seem convinced we are going to sign him but he still seems to be involved at Feyenoord. I wonder whether our interest is a bit of a red herring and we are actually after someone else? Still haggling over the fee I am guessing. I think with Pelle it is a question of when not if. Makes sense to get the Tadic deal completed first as there is greater competition for his signature (as Everton's last-minute interest has shown,) and then hopefully sort out Pelle in next couple of days. The fact that he is still in training with Feyenoord does indicate that the transfer is not as far down the line as many in the media have stated though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 7 July, 2014 Share Posted 7 July, 2014 Why would he stop training with feyn . He will once everything is completed with his . I'm pleased he's maintaining his fitness levels in holland unlike lovren whose probably in a. Bar somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 7 July, 2014 Share Posted 7 July, 2014 His training at Feyenoord only tells us that the transfer isn't imminent. He'd be training today whether he's signing for us, signing for someone else or staying with Feyenoord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 7 July, 2014 Share Posted 7 July, 2014 I'd rather have Danny Ings or take both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 7 July, 2014 Share Posted 7 July, 2014 I'd rather have Danny Ings or take both. We'll probably get both - 2 strikers are a must, and I'd put my money on signing those 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 7 July, 2014 Share Posted 7 July, 2014 There is a mention in the media that we could be after Paulinho of Livorno instead. Of course, it could just be a tactic to put pressure on Pelle /his club/ his agent. But as he looks as if he could be Osvaldo's twin, I'm not keen on the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint-crinny Posted 7 July, 2014 Share Posted 7 July, 2014 If anything, i'm pleased to hear he is training today - shows that unlike a selection of our muppet players, he is prepared to act professionally even though he has a move to us lined up. (which i am assuming he does given the amount of media coverage it has got). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 7 July, 2014 Share Posted 7 July, 2014 There is a mention in the media that we could be after Paulinho of Livorno instead. Of course, it could just be a tactic to put pressure on Pelle /his club/ his agent. But as he looks as if he could be Osvaldo's twin, I'm not keen on the idea. I'd forgotten that Osvaldo is still on our books. Have I missed any news on him: have we crystalized our losses yet?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 7 July, 2014 Share Posted 7 July, 2014 I'd forgotten that Osvaldo is still on our books. Have I missed any news on him: have we crystalized our losses yet?! Linked with both Inter & Galatasary but nothing concrete yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 July, 2014 Share Posted 7 July, 2014 I'd forgotten that Osvaldo is still on our books. Have I missed any news on him: have we crystalized our losses yet?! He's not reported back to training, first day he contacted the club to say he was ill - but then pictures of him in LA surfaced, he still hasn't returned back. If we get rid of him on a free it's a good deal. Horrific person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 7 July, 2014 Share Posted 7 July, 2014 Pelle is worth a lot to Feyenoord - a proven high scoring forward. To us he is attractive but with little resale value and no guarantee he can do it in the PL. Its a bit like the Lallana Liverpool standoff. Presumably we'll get him eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davesaint Posted 7 July, 2014 Share Posted 7 July, 2014 Not much action here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 7 July, 2014 Share Posted 7 July, 2014 Not much action here? I believe he is just waiting for someone else to blink first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redder freak Posted 7 July, 2014 Share Posted 7 July, 2014 Dame N'Doye? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feyenoorder Posted 8 July, 2014 Share Posted 8 July, 2014 Update: Feyenoord currently working on Bas Dost as their replacement striker. Pelle will move, but again, the Feyenoord TD van Geel is an insanely tough negotiator. Well see who gives in first on the transfer fee, but the move is still 100% happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 8 July, 2014 Share Posted 8 July, 2014 Update: Feyenoord currently working on Bas Dost as their replacement striker. Pelle will move, but again, the Feyenoord TD van Geel is an insanely tough negotiator. Well see who gives in first on the transfer fee, but the move is still 100% happening. Appreciate the update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 8 July, 2014 Share Posted 8 July, 2014 Pelle is worth a lot to Feyenoord - a proven high scoring forward. To us he is attractive but with little resale value and no guarantee he can do it in the PL. Its a bit like the Lallana Liverpool standoff. Presumably we'll get him eventually. This. Think 7m will do it in the end or 5m with 3m add ons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 8 July, 2014 Share Posted 8 July, 2014 Update: Feyenoord currently working on Bas Dost as their replacement striker. Pelle will move, but again, the Feyenoord TD van Geel is an insanely tough negotiator. Well see who gives in first on the transfer fee, but the move is still 100% happening. Can we sign Van Geel as well please ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 8 July, 2014 Share Posted 8 July, 2014 This. Think 7m will do it in the end or 5m with 3m add ons Agree. This is the way to structure it. Give him a 3 year contract, and if he is still with us for year 3, Feyenoooord can have the additional €3M then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 8 July, 2014 Share Posted 8 July, 2014 I'm sure Feyenoord are perfectly capable of deciding what the price they want is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 8 July, 2014 Share Posted 8 July, 2014 Blinkin typical we have not announced a singing since 5pm get your finger out and announce Pelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewell Posted 8 July, 2014 Share Posted 8 July, 2014 Ummm... why? I bet that's all your parents heard from you as a kid. Do you have to post that one word to every post you don't agree with? How about just letting it go. Why Why Why. A massive spoilt brat comes to mind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 8 July, 2014 Share Posted 8 July, 2014 He's not reported back to training, first day he contacted the club to say he was ill - but then pictures of him in LA surfaced, he still hasn't returned back. If we get rid of him on a free it's a good deal. Horrific person. Ta for that. At least we don't have to pay him if he doesn't fulfill his contract. What a waste of a talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 8 July, 2014 Share Posted 8 July, 2014 Can we sign Van Geel as well please ? hahahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 8 July, 2014 Share Posted 8 July, 2014 Pelle just scored in a pre season game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 8 July, 2014 Share Posted 8 July, 2014 He's not reported back to training, first day he contacted the club to say he was ill - but then pictures of him in LA surfaced, he still hasn't returned back. If we get rid of him on a free it's a good deal. Horrific person. he is a15 m horrific player. You can't just let him go on a free surely? He is still a decnt footballer and mist have a value somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfp1 Posted 8 July, 2014 Share Posted 8 July, 2014 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?50897-Okay-go-on-then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 8 July, 2014 Share Posted 8 July, 2014 He could be our main striker for the next 3 or 4 years. For a £100m+ turnover company, £8m on a Premier League striker isn't a lot if we get 3 or 4 years out of him. We may be 100 mill plus turnover company but we don't we have expenses of about the same? 8 mill is a lot of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 8 July, 2014 Share Posted 8 July, 2014 Pelle has just scored his 2nd goal!! KuipTalk @KuipTalk 6m More It's Graziano night in Horst with Pretty Boy Pelle scoring his second of the night; 0-3. #fchFEY (+2 million euros please @SouthamptonFC) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmacian_saint Posted 8 July, 2014 Share Posted 8 July, 2014 I see Dutch clubs now regard us a bit like the Italian clubs did with Cortese: their lottery tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 8 July, 2014 Share Posted 8 July, 2014 Pelle and Ossie, it's the Italian dream ticket. Those two could be quite tasty together, they'd complement each other too. Could even be the Italian international forward line if they gelled well. Until Ossie is sold off I've got my fingers crossed for a reconciliation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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