Unbelievable Jeff Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Obviously we are struggling to bring in players of a decent quality, but does it actually matter? Are we better getting players on loan, keeping the squad much the same, finishing mid to bottom of the table (10th to 16th), keeping hold of our decent players and then spending an utter ton next Summer, (100-120 million) and push for top 5/cup? To me all we really need now is a striker and central defender and we'll be fine for this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Aim for 8th or better in my opinion. Dont aim lower. We may finish lower half but should not aim there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Get to 40 points ASAP that is actually a MUST. The SHOULD for this season is a decent cup run. The SHOULD cannot be at the cost of the MUST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 40 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 4 August, 2014 Author Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Aim for 8th or better in my opinion. Dont aim lower. We may finish lower half but should not aim there! Perhaps I should say 'realistic expectations'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Top 7 will not be broken, so 8th is the very best we can hope for. Newcastle, WHU, Stoke, Swansea, Hull will be our competition for 8th spot. I think we will finish 11th or 12th, but should aim for top 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bos Vegas Saint Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 After all the goings on this summer I think the aim is to stay in the division ..... anything above 17th and I will be happy ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Top half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrensup Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Top 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JxgrSaint Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Even a worst case scenario team of: Pellè/Gallagher Tadic/Isgrove Ramirez/Davis Rodriguez/McQueen/Scheletto Taider/Cork/Reed Wanyama/JWP Bertrand/Targett ?/Yoshida Fonte/Hooiveld Clyne/McCarthy Boruc/Davis This team should be easily capable of 10th-12th... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 12th and FA Cup quarter finals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Top 17. This For a club like saints just staying up is basically success. Of course we all want to finish as high possible but really PL survival (ideally with a good cup run thrown in) has to be the aim every season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 This is the transition season. Aim for top half but accept 11th- 15th as it stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 (edited) Perhaps I should say 'realistic expectations'. I'd be happy with a top half finish and would like to think that would be the minimum that the coaching staff expect of the players. We obviously need some more players at CB and in forward positions, but we still do have a lot of talent at the club despite all the sales. Assuming Krueger keeps to his guarantee that J-Rod and Morgan won't be sold and there are no more unexpected exits, then we've still got ample quality to separate us from the dross in the league. Hope to see Pelle bag around 15 goals, and think Tadic will be a fantastic signing for us based on what I have seen so far. Looking at the teams that finished below us I'd say that Newcastle, West Ham, and Stoke appear stronger than they were last season. Problem for West Ham is that they are trying to change their playing style to be more expansive and it's obvious that this doesn't come natural to Fat Sam. Wouldn't be surprised if he was sacked relatively early in the season. Newcastle, for me, have lacked a playing identity for the past couple of seasons. Cabella looks a very good signing, but don't expect Newcastle to become a fluid unit overnight. I think Stoke might be the biggest challengers for 8th spot. Hughes has got them playing some decent stuff and has also bought well, attracting some relatively exotic names to a veritable sh*thole. Sunderland should improve as well, but still think they will end up 12th-14th. Hull have made some decent-ish signings (especially Andrew Robertson) but I think, like a lot of people, that they will really suffer with commitments of the Europa League. Lots of transfer activity still to be done, but we finished so comfortable in 8th position last season that we shouldn't really be aiming for anything lower than a top-half finish IMO. Edited 4 August, 2014 by Toon Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 (edited) We're a top 8 side- we not only have to maintain that position but enhance it. All according to Les Reed, of course. Edited 4 August, 2014 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 This is the transition season. Aim for top half but accept 11th- 15th as it stands. Sounds about right to me. I think this will be the first season for years where we finish lower than the previous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 There's no excuse whatsoever for any team that has £70+mill to spend to finish bottom half, let alone one that already has Boruc, Wanyama, Schneidlerin, Ramirez, Rodriguez and Clyne. We should easily be able to finish 8th again if we spend the money well, unfortunately we probably won't and will finish about 14th or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 IMO aim realistically should be above 12th and a quarter final FA Cup minimum. And this is if Les manages to improve the defence from last season...a very tall order the way things are panning out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 Even a worst case scenario team of: Pellè/Gallagher Tadic/Isgrove Ramirez/Davis Rodriguez/McQueen/Scheletto Taider/Cork/Reed Wanyama/JWP Bertrand/Targett ?/Yoshida Fonte/Hooiveld Clyne/McCarthy Boruc/Davis This team should be easily capable of 10th-12th... Rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyFC Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 8th fuarken and win go to quarter final of FA Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leslie Charteris Posted 4 August, 2014 Share Posted 4 August, 2014 "Obviously we are struggling to bring in players of a decent quality..." because there are only 26 days to the close of the transfer window! Ho hum. Top half finish and a decent cup run would do it for me, but then again I obviously lack ambition and have been cowed by the big clubs who are not going to let little old us into their exclusive domain. Just like the old class thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2k1iRD2f-c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trout-Tickler Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 (edited) Obviously we are struggling to bring in players of a decent quality, but does it actually matter? Are we better getting players on loan, keeping the squad much the same, finishing mid to bottom of the table (10th to 16th), keeping hold of our decent players and then spending an utter ton next Summer, (100-120 million) and push for top 5/cup? To me all we really need now is a striker and central defender and we'll be fine for this season. If we can't sign (as you put it) 'decent quality players' after our highest ever finish in the Prem why on earth would they move to us next season when (call me pessimistic if you want) we won't finish as high? With reference to the need for a cb and striker I agree but for me this been the case since the end of last season and well before we lost Lovren and Lambert. At present we've not replaced either and the fact that we haven't must set alarm bells ringing. Although we had a tough run of fixtures during December/New Year last season our poor form was in part down to our lack of squad depth. This hasn't improved and could be argued to be worse. If we sign only 1 cb and 1 striker problems with squad depth are going to arise again IMO. Edited 5 August, 2014 by Trout-Tickler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 As I have been saying for years, staying in the Premier League is the first objective, anything else a bonus. 17th, will be another season of success, 18th failure. Same as ever. Nice to see that a vast swathe of fans are at last thinking the same way as me and expressing it on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratio_decidendi Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 Where should we be aiming? As high as possible. "Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars." ...hopefully those are Premier League and not Championship stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 Where should we be aiming? As high as possible. "Shoot for the moon. Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars." ...hopefully those are Premier League and not Championship stars. ... And then those stars get sold to Liverpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 Expectation will certainly be lower. I think anything above 15th should be expected, I would be happy enough with 10th-14th which is where I think we'll end up. Although it's likely there will be very few points between these placings. If we were to bring in a few more (Forster, Van Dijk/Vlaar, Redmond and Ings/Samaras) we should be aiming for 9th-12th. Still difficult to say with so much of the window left and us taking forever to close out a deal for anyone. A top half finish is too much to expect of RoKo in his first season, but his record in cups inspires hope for a good run where he might show a bit of respect to the competition and the fans, unlike a certain (allegedly) league bonus chasing ex-manager of ours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 5 August, 2014 Author Share Posted 5 August, 2014 If we can't sign (as you put it) 'decent quality players' after our highest ever finish in the Prem why on earth would they move to us next season when (call me pessimistic if you want) we won't finish as high? With reference to the need for a cb and striker I agree but for me this been the case since the end of last season and well before we lost Lovren and Lambert. At present we've not replaced either and the fact that we haven't must set alarm bells ringing. Although we had a tough run of fixtures during December/New Year last season our poor form was in part down to our lack of squad depth. This hasn't improved and could be argued to be worse. If we sign only 1 cb and 1 striker problems with squad depth are going to arise again IMO. The point is I believe we're being priced out of the market this season as we are forefinger to pay too much for players when other teams know we have a lot of money to spend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 8th fuarken and win go to quarter final of FA Cup. How's the hangover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 'no team are harder to place in the one to 20 pecking order until the closure of the transfer window'. From the racing post preview today, pretty much sums it up for me. They have us down as finishing 11th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 We should aim to do better than the previous season which is the essence of a competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 Should be aiming to win it. As that is completely unrealistic, should be aiming to finish as high as possible, I'd be happy with somewhere in the top half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasper57saint Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 Why not aim for the top? We may not finish there but some of the 'chosen few' may just fall by the wayside again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 Survival in the Premier League. Thing about betting firms is that they only lower their odds when they know its likely something will happen.... from 15/1 to 5/1 (and less) in 3 weeks... not looking good. lets hope we spend on some quality soon and move to 10/1. I just want to stay in the Premier League. Thats all... its like the old days again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 As I have been saying for years, staying in the Premier League is the first objective, anything else a bonus. 17th, will be another season of success, 18th failure. Same as ever. Nice to see that a vast swathe of fans are at last thinking the same way as me and expressing it on this forum. Never thought I'd say this... but I'm with Dalek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeeBee Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 Really think the opening game against Liverpool could define our season. If we somehow contrive to not lose this fixture, we would generate some confidence in both players and fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 Really think the opening game against Liverpool could define our season. lolz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 We should aim to be relegated. Would make a few happy just in the knowledge that they told us so. ******s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 Even a worst case scenario team of: Pellè/Gallagher Tadic/Isgrove Ramirez/Davis Rodriguez/McQueen/Scheletto Taider/Cork/Reed Wanyama/JWP Bertrand/Targett ?/Yoshida Fonte/Hooiveld Clyne/McCarthy Boruc/Davis This team should be easily capable of 10th-12th... Three on the right might make us a bit lopsided but with 21 players from the back to the front and 2 in goal we should walk this league f'k mid table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwsaint Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 It's going to be a bumpy start to the season, as all the new players settle in. We have had the core of the team ripped out, so we need to be patient. Also have a horrible run of fixtures from late November to early January. So my guess is somewhere around 11th to 14th after a slow start. Don't think that we will go down as there are teams that will be much weaker than us, even after all the transfers (Burnley, Hull, Villa, Palace, West Brom) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 "We" the team should be aiming to finish top. "We" the supporters just need to put on our nappies and hold on tightly to something firmly secured to the floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cellone Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 Still muttering about these last two months. 13th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 The Champions' League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 4th place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grey Crab Posted 5 August, 2014 Share Posted 5 August, 2014 I'd settle for being relegated in 19th place to avoid the humiliation of coming bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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