Give it to Ron Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/argyle/Wotton-heading-Southampton-exit/article-568726-detail/article.html Had a couple of good games but no surprise as hasn't really been the success I had hoped. Another experienced player gone then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/argyle/Wotton-heading-Southampton-exit/article-568726-detail/article.html Had a couple of good games but no surprise as hasn't really been the success I had hoped. Another experienced player gone then.I cant believe it.Another reason to my mind that Jan really is not fit to manage our club. Wotton has the steel to let the youngsters develop, much like Case did for us years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 He's s**t anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Poortvliet said: "Paul is at the moment not available to play against Plymouth. "He's not part of the squad selection. I cannot say anything about it – it will come." Eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 24 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 24 December, 2008 I cant believe it.Another reason to my mind that Jan really is not fit to manage our club. Wotton has the steel to let the youngsters develop, much like Case did for us years ago. A dissenting voice against what is happening on the pitch? Just a guess and no fact but age does sometimes mean you feel qualified to offer an opinion whereas the younger kids would be too frightened to. If its freeing up wages I am a bit concerned as for every Jack Cork we have had Pulis, Gasmi, Smith, Robertson and Pekhart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 i thought he looked solid against weds and palarse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 A dissenting voice against what is happening on the pitch? Just a guess and no fact but age does sometimes mean you feel qualified to offer an opinion whereas the younger kids would be too frightened to. If its freeing up wages I am a bit concerned as for every Jack Cork we have had Pulis, Gasmi, Smith, Robertson and PekhartI dont think it will be for freeing up wages as RL was here when he was signed (I think so anyway) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Will he really be that much of a miss? He has been slow, inacurate with his passing and we have seen no sign of his free kick specialitys. I still think we could do with a decent older head infront of the back 4, just dont think wooton is him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West End Saint Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 He is not the greatest player but a good solid experienced pro that is good to have amongst so many youngsters with injuries and suspensions he will be missed as he offers good cover at the back and in midfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team-saint Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 i know he's **** but he could still be useful in midfield, when he cam on against palace he was quite good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 http://www.thisisplymouth.co.uk/argyle/Wotton-heading-Southampton-exit/article-568726-detail/article.html Had a couple of good games but no surprise as hasn't really been the success I had hoped. Another experienced player gone then. So, Jan's first signing, sorry, Hockaday's first recommendation, and given a 3 year deal!!! is now surplus to requirements less than half a season in. Quel surprise. I did have quite a tete-a-tete right at the start of the season with one of the Nicks on here about who's signing was Wotton etc. etc., and that when you are skint you need to be particularly careful who you sign, and for how long. The whole of the club's management is being shown up as incapable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Someone mentioned the posability of him going to ease the wage bill earlier and I was thinking. Just him leaving and as someone already said, it wont make much of a difference because Lowe signed him and he is probably on peanuts compared to the high earners. But if he is going along with Pekhart, Robertson, Smith and possibly 1 or 2 others and half as many come back or come in on loan then collectivly the wage bill would have been eased. not sure how much it would hlp but it seems we are at the stage of trying to save every penny so it might make a difference. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 So, Jan's first signing, sorry, Hockaday's first recommendation, and given a 3 year deal!!! is now surplus to requirements less than half a season in. Quel surprise. I did have quite a tete-a-tete right at the start of the season with one of the Nicks on here about who's signing was Wotton etc. etc., and that when you are skint you need to be particularly careful who you sign, and for how long. The whole of the club's management is being shown up as incapable.It wasnt me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 nor me! (can't remember it but who knows!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 shame..the guy is experienced and a winner.. and already not needed.. another example that the coaches etc have no idea what they are doing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 24 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Think this may be one reason http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/?page_id=11127 just think how much that experienced 20 game career will help us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 was just thinking about he maybe the reason - no idea his ability (Pulis) but one thing Wotton has is experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 He's going on loan. I heard this last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 (edited) It wasnt me Well, "A Merry Christmas and a Happy and Prosperous New To You", then. The same to the other Nick, plus a better memory, as it probably was him! Edited 24 December, 2008 by hughieslastminutegoal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Losing more of our first team squad is just what we need. When Pearce and Cork go back and we loan off Wotton we will have just Perry and Lancashire fit who can play centre back. He's not the best player but we need some sort of squad, we're going to have one of the smallest squads in the league if all the loans go back and Wotton, Lallana and Surman are all moved on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 I heard over the weekend that Wotton & Portaloo had a blazing row and thats why wottons off somewhere else in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Wotton may not be the greatest player to wear the shirt but there are many loanees who should be returned before him IMO. Bit of a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 absolutely terriffic news, not only has JP recognised that he is poor but we have also found a buyer/suiter. Wotton is a very poor player IMO and never good enough for ths level. Onwards and upwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser Soze Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Pile of vvank, happy to get rid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Another bizarre transfer to go along with Forecast, Smith and Pekhart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Wotton may not be the greatest player to wear the shirt but there are many loanees who should be returned before him IMO. Bit of a shame. He's not a loanee, that's the point. A loanee is crap, you get shot of him when his loan is up. A signed player is crap, not so easy, if you can get rid of him make hay whilst the sun shines, otherwise you have a whole load of dross getting paid for a long,long time.At least we've learnt our lesson there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 He's not a loanee, that's the point. A loanee is crap, you get shot of him when his loan is up. A signed player is crap, not so easy, if you can get rid of him make hay whilst the sun shines, otherwise you have a whole load of dross getting paid for a long,long time.At least we've learnt our lesson there. Great, so we loan him out, he does sh*t in League One, and then even less people want to take him on. :smt012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 absolutely terriffic news, not only has JP recognised that he is poor but we have also found a buyer/suiter. Wotton is a very poor player IMO and never good enough for ths level. Onwards and upwards. But as has been pointed out he was acquired during the tenure of JP and his team and given a 3 year contract by the one RL. Not a great endorsement of the new set up is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Strover Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Having not come through our 'admired' 'first class' academy I suspect he just couldn't cope with our smart, football-first Dutch tactics - being English and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerBadger Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Wotton is sh1te - no loss at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Hate to say it but he is an awful player and the team will not miss him. He has not played many games at this level and it shows. Whoever signed him to a 3 year deal is an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahill Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 No loss whatsoever - but he is one of many ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 But as has been pointed out he was acquired during the tenure of JP and his team and given a 3 year contract by the one RL. Not a great endorsement of the new set up is it. you are right, although I'd be surprised if JP had even seen Wotton play. Whoever did scout him needs the sack IMO, he is way below the standard required in the CCC. I'm not endorsing the current set up by the way, I am just pleased that they can see what I can see - Wotton is a League 1 player at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 you are right, although I'd be surprised if JP had even seen Wotton play. Whoever did scout him needs the sack IMO, he is way below the standard required in the CCC. I'm not endorsing the current set up by the way, I am just pleased that they can see what I can see - Wotton is a League 1 player at best. Perfect scenario this.....loan him out to a league one team and when we join said team next season in league one he will fit back in perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Good riddance to a **** player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Thought he could play at centre half ? With Killer injured, Pearce possibly going back and Lancashire the slowest centre half i have ever seen for someone of his age would it not have been prudent to keep him as cover, esp being experienced, and with Rudi supposedly off in January there goes another experienced player in the area you need it most, defence. Incredible, what a circus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 Thought he could play at centre half ? With Killer injured, Pearce possibly going back and Lancashire the slowest centre half i have ever seen for someone of his age would it not have been prudent to keep him as cover, esp being experienced, and with Rudi supposedly off in January there goes another experienced player in the area you need it most, defence. Incredible, what a circus. You obviously never saw Paul Bennett then. Paul (a school colleague of mine) did a fantastic job on some of the country's best attacking players of the time. Lancashire not so much (at the moment).Perhaps the forwards are just getting better and better though. Strange though in those days nearly every fan of the club (common or garden terrace fans that is) had been to school with (or their kids had) at least one of our first team players. They came from Tauntons,St Marys,Barton Peverill, St Johns Gosport, Brockenhurst Grammar. Most had seen them play (or played against them) at Hampshire Schools Sixes on the Sports Centre;No-one considered them too young or too inexperienced,football was like that. Nowadays if they don't cost 45 million and start playing at 48 years old they're considered young and inexperienced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1Minus10 Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 I heard over the weekend that Wotton & Portaloo had a blazing row and thats why wottons off somewhere else in January. If that's true then it's really sad that an experienced pro cannot speak out when things are obviously shiite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 24 December, 2008 Share Posted 24 December, 2008 If that's true then it's really sad that an experienced pro cannot speak out when things are obviously shiite. Ask Mark Wright,Steve Williams,Terry Paine and Reuben Agboola about experienced pros speaking their mind in Lawrie's day. One way ticket out of SFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 26 December, 2008 Share Posted 26 December, 2008 One of the worst players to play for SFC in recent years - and there's been some pretty stiff competition . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 26 December, 2008 Share Posted 26 December, 2008 I am partly pleased that we have got rid of an uber-average player, but at the same time p*ssed off that it's another experienced head gone and he will probably be replaced by some teenage wannabe from Tranmere reserves. Agree with CEC. We really might aswell have just kept Jermaine Wright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 26 December, 2008 Share Posted 26 December, 2008 Originally Posted by The Godfather I heard over the weekend that Wotton & Portaloo had a blazing row and thats why wottons off somewhere else in January. If that's true then it's really sad that an experienced pro cannot speak out when things are obviously shiite. wtf has that got to do with the price of fish? We have all seen him play and we all hoped he would have been a lot better than what has been served up. I am sure he is not happy at the amount of games he is getting, but these things happen. Or are you trying to say he should have started a lot more often? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 26 December, 2008 Share Posted 26 December, 2008 I am partly pleased that we have got rid of an uber-average player, but at the same time p*ssed off that it's another experienced head gone and he will probably be replaced by some teenage wannabe from Tranmere reserves. Agree with CEC. We really might aswell have just kept Jermaine Wright. Don`t worry chief scout Michael Wilde will have spotted another "gem" from the channel islands no doubt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 26 December, 2008 Share Posted 26 December, 2008 I am partly pleased that we have got rid of an uber-average player, but at the same time p*ssed off that it's another experienced head gone and he will probably be replaced by some teenage wannabe from Tranmere reserves. Agree with CEC. We really might aswell have just kept Jermaine Wright. I know you were being sarcastic, but I really don't understand why we let Wright go only for Wotton to come in. Wright played well last season at right back and is a much better footballer. I guess Wright must have been on £5k+ whilst Wotton will have been on less than £5k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 26 December, 2008 Share Posted 26 December, 2008 I heard over the weekend that Wotton & Portaloo had a blazing row and thats why wottons off somewhere else in January. This has just been confirmed by Merrington on Solent,a dressing room bust up occurred,hence he is off to Brighton,apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 26 December, 2008 Share Posted 26 December, 2008 heard he is on about 6k a week,if we cant afford to pay a player 6k a week then perhaps we are in more financial trouble than we thought......unless he is going for other reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 26 December, 2008 Share Posted 26 December, 2008 I know you were being sarcastic, but I really don't understand why we let Wright go only for Wotton to come in. Wright played well last season at right back and is a much better footballer. I guess Wright must have been on £5k+ whilst Wotton will have been on less than £5k Wright didn't want to stay,well not on a 1 year contract anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 26 December, 2008 Share Posted 26 December, 2008 I know you were being sarcastic, but I really don't understand why we let Wright go only for Wotton to come in. Wright played well last season at right back and is a much better footballer. I guess Wright must have been on £5k+ whilst Wotton will have been on less than £5k Can't see Wotton being on high wages. I thought part of the deal for him coming here was that we gave him a log contract in return for low wages. Apparently Wright was offered a 1 year deal but turned it down. I know we could argue about JW until the cows come home, so we'll agree to disagree, however of all the players who left in summer, he isn't on the list of players I'd want back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 26 December, 2008 Share Posted 26 December, 2008 Useless W*nk*r from Day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Reigned Posted 26 December, 2008 Share Posted 26 December, 2008 At least we've benefited from his expert penalty-taking ability this season.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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