angelman Posted 22 May, 2016 Share Posted 22 May, 2016 Those ITK like to come on here with their gossip stir it up and disappear don't they Possibly, but really it boils down to something that we have no control over what so ever, so not much point getting all exercised about it. Bit of pragmatism needed and just take things as they come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 22 May, 2016 Share Posted 22 May, 2016 Those ITK like to come on here with their gossip stir it up and disappear don't they They (guan and k billy) usually turn out to be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 22 May, 2016 Share Posted 22 May, 2016 They (guan and k billy) usually turn out to be right. And dish out news whether it is bad or good, and quite often it us good, which is hardly "stirring it up". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 22 May, 2016 Share Posted 22 May, 2016 And dish out news whether it is bad or good, and quite often it us good, which is hardly "stirring it up". I didn't agree that they were stirring it up, I was pointing out that what information they supply is usually accurate. I'm grateful that they post snippets on here whether it's perceived as good or bad news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 22 May, 2016 Share Posted 22 May, 2016 I want a lot of things , doesn't mean I get them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 22 May, 2016 Share Posted 22 May, 2016 I didn't agree that they were stirring it up, I was pointing out that what information they supply is usually accurate. I'm grateful that they post snippets on here whether it's perceived as good or bad news. I was agreeing with you in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 22 May, 2016 Share Posted 22 May, 2016 I was agreeing with you in the first place. Pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 22 May, 2016 Share Posted 22 May, 2016 I want a lot of things , doesn't mean I get them! Sex, dinner, bath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 22 May, 2016 Share Posted 22 May, 2016 Sex, dinner, bath And all at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 22 May, 2016 Share Posted 22 May, 2016 Those ITK like to come on here with their gossip stir it up and disappear don't they It's a fair observation. They certainly bait the hook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 22 May, 2016 Share Posted 22 May, 2016 Real Madrid the big one on the right, Skates the tiddler on the left, and we're somewhere in between. I'm guessing the swarm of piranhas on the right are agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L_O_Z Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 We have had 1 or 2 bad signings every year. What it would take to have a problem is the absence of 2 or 3 good signings. 2 bad first team signings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 Some of these so called want away players have been offered new contracts by the club, of course they are going to put the feeders out they want to leave, That's the best way to get better terms. You watch Pelle sign a new contract in the next week followed by a few of the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redslo Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 2 bad first team signings? well, by definition, our bad signings don't end getting much first team time but we have had bad signings that were intended to be for the first team if they worked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 It's enough to make you slit your wrists frankly. WHY WON'T YOU LOVE US CLUB EMPLOYEES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 Some of these so called want away players have been offered new contracts by the club, of course they are going to put the feeders out they want to leave, That's the best way to get better terms. You watch Pelle sign a new contract in the next week followed by a few of the others. If Pelle is in the Italian team he will not sign a new contrat untill the outcome of the Euro's if they win and he is in the team his stock will go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 If Pelle is in the Italian team he will not sign a new contrat untill the outcome of the Euro's if they win and he is in the team his stock will go up. They won't win if he's in the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Biscuits Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 Sex, dinner, bath If that could involve Keeeley Hawes astride me in the bath, smearing pizza all over my naked quivering chest that would be just fine. I'll just be.... Um..... Yes well I'll just be over here, thinking........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkboy Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 If that could involve Keeeley Hawes astride me in the bath, smearing pizza all over my naked quivering chest that would be just fine. I'll just be.... Um..... Yes well I'll just be over here, thinking........ Smeared pizza doesn't do it for me, a bit messy. Lots and lots of soap suds however, smeared all over Keeley Hawes' "quivering chest", now we're talking!!!! I'll just be....er........over here thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 He was except for the word "up". Also, Spurs. And technically Man City are guaranteed 8 games. Why are City technically guaranteed 8 games? Don't they have to play a qualifier for finishing fourth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneawol Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 Why are City technically guaranteed 8 games? Don't they have to play a qualifier for finishing fourth? If they win they qualify for the group stage of the Champions League, lose and they go in the group stage of the Europa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 If they win they qualify for the group stage of the Champions League, lose and they go in the group stage of the Europa. Ah yes, completely forgot about them dropping into the Europa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 Ah yes, completely forgot about them dropping into the Europa. Most stupid thing in football.."oh you ****ed up your competition no problems just have a crack at this one instead" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Benali Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 If all those leave it can't see Koeman staying. You can't keep replacing so many players in a short space of time and keep getting away with it. Eventually your get some in who simply won't be good enough or can't adjust to the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 2 bad first team signings? Juanmi, Caulker maybe Cedric? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 I think this is a load of ballarks to be honest. And also some of the posters on this thread need to get a serious grip on themselves. If we can survive (and improve on) a summer where our club captain, club talisman, best youth player since Bale, another cracking youth player and one of our best centre backs in the prem all leave, then I think we can survive Tadic, Pelle and co leaving. The only one we'll really miss is Mane, and we will cash that in for all its worth so who cares?!?!?! We've shown how well we can spend as a club plenty of times. I'm personally happy for pelle to leave, we'll get what we paid for him (more or less) and in the meantime he's score some key goals for us. As for Tadic, earlier in the season most of the halfwits on here started a thread saying we should sell long and said he was a waste of cash compared to Tadic. He's a good player, but seriously? People think he is irreplaceable? I have no issues with selling him and getting a decent replacement... Townsend, ox etc? And thats just the english ones... The midfield has been imbalanced for a while and selling wanyama gives us a chance to correct that and build a new one. No worries for me there. A good player, but one that had rubbish discipline and at times couldn't hit a barn door with a pass at 6 yards. Excited to see what we bring in in his place. Think the reactions in this thread are a bit of a joke tbh. Our key players are Long, Forster, Fonte, VVD, Claise, Mane, Davis and Bertrand. Only one of those is linked away and if Mane goes we'll get a shed load of dosh to reinvest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 (edited) If all those leave it can't see Koeman staying. You can't keep replacing so many players in a short space of time and keep getting away with it. Eventually your get some in who simply won't be good enough or can't adjust to the league. what if those players want to leave because of Koeman? Edited 23 May, 2016 by doddisalegend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 I think this is a load of ballarks to be honest. And also some of the posters on this thread need to get a serious grip on themselves. If we can survive (and improve on) a summer where our club captain, club talisman, best youth player since Bale, another cracking youth player and one of our best centre backs in the prem all leave, then I think we can survive Tadic, Pelle and co leaving. The only one we'll really miss is Mane, and we will cash that in for all its worth so who cares?!?!?! We've shown how well we can spend as a club plenty of times. I'm personally happy for pelle to leave, we'll get what we paid for him (more or less) and in the meantime he's score some key goals for us. As for Tadic, earlier in the season most of the halfwits on here started a thread saying we should sell long and said he was a waste of cash compared to Tadic. He's a good player, but seriously? People think he is irreplaceable? I have no issues with selling him and getting a decent replacement... Townsend, ox etc? And thats just the english ones... The midfield has been imbalanced for a while and selling wanyama gives us a chance to correct that and build a new one. No worries for me there. A good player, but one that had rubbish discipline and at times couldn't hit a barn door with a pass at 6 yards. Excited to see what we bring in in his place. Think the reactions in this thread are a bit of a joke tbh. Our key players are Long, Forster, Fonte, VVD, Claise, Mane, Davis and Bertrand. Only one of those is linked away and if Mane goes we'll get a shed load of dosh to reinvest. Good post but I'd include Tadic and Wanyama as one of our key players over Clasie, plus Pelle has been useful at times but agree I would fine with him being sold. Key is to replace Mane well and also get another winger in whether Tadic leaves or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Show me the mané Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 I think this is a load of ballarks to be honest. And also some of the posters on this thread need to get a serious grip on themselves. If we can survive (and improve on) a summer where our club captain, club talisman, best youth player since Bale, another cracking youth player and one of our best centre backs in the prem all leave, then I think we can survive Tadic, Pelle and co leaving. The only one we'll really miss is Mane, and we will cash that in for all its worth so who cares?!?!?! We've shown how well we can spend as a club plenty of times. I'm personally happy for pelle to leave, we'll get what we paid for him (more or less) and in the meantime he's score some key goals for us. As for Tadic, earlier in the season most of the halfwits on here started a thread saying we should sell long and said he was a waste of cash compared to Tadic. He's a good player, but seriously? People think he is irreplaceable? I have no issues with selling him and getting a decent replacement... Townsend, ox etc? And thats just the english ones... The midfield has been imbalanced for a while and selling wanyama gives us a chance to correct that and build a new one. No worries for me there. A good player, but one that had rubbish discipline and at times couldn't hit a barn door with a pass at 6 yards. Excited to see what we bring in in his place. Think the reactions in this thread are a bit of a joke tbh. Our key players are Long, Forster, Fonte, VVD, Claise, Mane, Davis and Bertrand. Only one of those is linked away and if Mane goes we'll get a shed load of dosh to reinvest. I think you need to get a grip of yourself if you think clasie is more of a key player than wanyama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaffaSaint Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 Yes I'm aware of that. So just keep risking it until it goes wrong then? Unproven players may work or may not, that's what it means. Proven players will probably keep doing pretty well! So if you're good at recruitment, use it to enhance what you have not start over every summer. Proven players is a non concept. Morgan lovren and llalana were all proven premier league players but were mostly not that great last season Sent from my HUAWEI GRA-L09 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonicBoom Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 Personally I don't think Pelle, Wanyama or Tadic is irreplaceable. VW is probably the most valuable to us as a team but even we could find someone else if the deal was right. Tadic has been very good but is consistently inconsistent. He's been better recently but has spent quite a bit of the season on the bench. Mane would be a big loss. He's inconsistent too but capable of creating against any team in the league. There's not many of those around. Personally I would love the club to do everything they can to keep both Mane and Wanyama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 This doesn't read as though Mane wants to leave? http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/14507148.Hot_property_Mane_looks_ahead_to_next_season/?ref=fbshr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggytrousers Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 Start of last season most people would have picked Hazard as the player most likely to be a success for 2015/16. Players with no premier league experience included Payet, Dia and Kante. Even Mahrez, Vardy, Drinkwater, Dier who did have premier league experience were hardly what you'd call proven premier league players. Looks like your theory didn't work too well last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nordic Saint Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 This doesn't read as though Mane wants to leave? http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/14507148.Hot_property_Mane_looks_ahead_to_next_season/?ref=fbshr Mane seems very happy at the club. The problem may be that the club is getting keen to cash in on him, as his transfer value has soared. They do seem to sell one or two of the most valuable players every year and maybe this is part of their financial plan, and also one of the reasons Koeman may not want to extend. However, even if they would prefer the money, they'd be better off waiting another year or two, as he is is improving fast and his value could double again. From a personal point of view, I think Mane is one of the most exciting players I've ever seen play for Southampton and I'll be very sad to see him sold to a rival club. Real Madrid for 40 million in 2 years' time, I could accept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 This doesn't read as though Mane wants to leave? http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/14507148.Hot_property_Mane_looks_ahead_to_next_season/?ref=fbshr Same stuff which was up on the OS a few days ago. Wouldn't read anything into those comments either way. A player doesn't need to be "unhappy" in order to leave a club. It also doesn't mean that Saints aren't looking to offload to the highest bidder anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 Mane seems very happy at the club. The problem may be that the club is getting keen to cash in on him, as his transfer value has soared. They do seem to sell one or two of the most valuable players every year and maybe this is part of their financial plan, and also one of the reasons Koeman may not want to extend. However, even if they would prefer the money, they'd be better off waiting another year or two, as he is is improving fast and his value could double again. I don't know why so many Saints fans think it is the club's business plan to sell their best players. If given the choice I doubt they would, but they know if a player isn't going to sign a new deal, or will be a disruptive influence if unhappy for a prolonged period then they have to be sold. Its not a long term "plan" to sell them, they are sold to the club to its credit of having a lot of players who can attract interest from clubs with bigger wages and Champions League football on offer. From a personal point of view, I think Mane is one of the most exciting players I've ever seen play for Southampton and I'll be very sad to see him sold to a rival club. Real Madrid for 40 million in 2 years' time, I could accept. Unless he signs a new contract in 2 years time he will be worth £0, not £40m, as his contract will expire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 Same stuff which was up on the OS a few days ago. Wouldn't read anything into those comments either way. A player doesn't need to be "unhappy" in order to leave a club. It also doesn't mean that Saints aren't looking to offload to the highest bidder anyway. Exactly. This piece covers all bases and eventualities anyway "“hopefully we will build a great team like this season,” he said. “We will prepare for our national team games and after we will see what happens for next season.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren2 Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 I think Mane is in a similar situation to Lambert when there were rumours of him moving. I think he's happy at the club, and seems really grounded as a person. If the right deal came for him AND the club, he'd move. But he'd also be a gentleman and honour his contract without rocking the boat if that's what was asked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 I think Mane is in a similar situation to Lambert when there were rumours of him moving. I think he's happy at the club, and seems really grounded as a person. If the right deal came for him AND the club, he'd move. But he'd also be a gentleman and honour his contract without rocking the boat if that's what was asked Not sure about any of that! - Didn't Sadio go on strike to get a move to us?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 Not sure about any of that! - Didn't Sadio go on strike to get a move to us?! Yeah he did, refused to train! And I'm sure he kicked up a little bit of fuss last summer, as Koeman said his mind wasn't right? or am i confusing him with someone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 Yeah he did, refused to train! And I'm sure he kicked up a little bit of fuss last summer, as Koeman said his mind wasn't right? or am i confusing him with someone else? Though that was Vic at the start of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 Yeah he did, refused to train! And I'm sure he kicked up a little bit of fuss last summer, as Koeman said his mind wasn't right? or am i confusing him with someone else? Just Victor (I think). But wouldn't surprise me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 Yeah he did, refused to train! And I'm sure he kicked up a little bit of fuss last summer, as Koeman said his mind wasn't right? or am i confusing him with someone else? Re. Mane refusing to train prior to a move to us, not saying you aren't right, but can you stick the link up to what actually happened there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneawol Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 (edited) Re. Mane refusing to train prior to a move to us, not saying you aren't right, but can you stick the link up to what actually happened there? http://www.salzburg24.at/red-bull-salzburg-suspendiert-sadio-mane/4065841 https://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.salzburg.com/nachrichten/salzburg/sport/fussball/fc-red-bull-salzburg/sn/artikel/red-bull-salzburg-mane-tanzt-aus-der-reihe-118689/&prev=search Edited 23 May, 2016 by goneawol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 http://www.salzburg24.at/red-bull-salzburg-suspendiert-sadio-mane/4065841 https://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.salzburg.com/nachrichten/salzburg/sport/fussball/fc-red-bull-salzburg/sn/artikel/red-bull-salzburg-mane-tanzt-aus-der-reihe-118689/&prev=search Cheers, can just make out from that not the best in terms of attitude from Mane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue_Saint Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 So we're not doing really well then? That's pretty disappointing to be honest. Selective quoting fry-man? Whatever floats your boat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue_Saint Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 But surely the net spend table is more important, we're not anything unless we spend more than other clubs. You must have the iq of a rodent. My respond was to a statement about squad investment. I highlighted the fact that investment in squad is primarily from sale funds. So what is your "spaz" comment about you spaz??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 Selective quoting fry-man? Whatever floats your boat... #6th in the premier league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 Selective quoting fry-man? Whatever floats your boat... Not really, happy to quote your entire post. Here it is. Some of you think we are doing really well so should just be content with the annual upheaval of player sales. What other club do you see players being constantly picked off at our rate. We are at the point of really transitioning as a club to greater things because of the scouting system and what the old man did at the guidance of Cortese. You would have to be blind to see with the daughter there HASN'T been a change in direction. My thoughts, everyone is entitled to theirs but this doesn't half **** me off. ...it's total drivel, start to finish. Question remains - are we doing well then, or not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 23 May, 2016 Share Posted 23 May, 2016 You must have the iq of a rodent. My respond was to a statement about squad investment. I highlighted the fact that investment in squad is primarily from sale funds. So what is your "spaz" comment about you spaz??? Can't you just be happy the team has been fun excellently and Kat has been brilliant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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