Donald Trump Appreciation Thread

[aintforever]

Thought it was a democratic hoax?

[CB Fry]

That's right. A useful idiot scientist, who worked with the WHO, helping to combat river blindness. River blindness is a disease caused by onchocerciasis, which was brought under control in West Africa through the work of the Onchocerciasis Control Programme (OCP), I and my company was part of. The program used mainly the spraying of insecticides against blackfly larvae (vector control) by helicopters and airplanes. (I charged f-all for the work I carried out in the Ivory Coast, btw). The helicopters were flown mainly by Vietnam veterans. I flew a number of spraying operations at about 20 metres above the rapids. Those US pilots were f***ing fearless and they lost a couple a year.

 

Read about it here and learn something from a useful idiot. This useful idiot can also see that the villains are China and the WHO, not Trump. Just to remind you of the work of the WHO, defined by its Constitution. The core functions of the WHO is divided into three categories:

 

1. Normative functions, including international conventions and agreements, regulations and non-binding standards and recommendations;
   
2. Directing and coordinating functions, including its health for all, poverty and health, and essential medicine activities and its specific disease programs;
   
3. Research and technical cooperation functions,including disease eradication and emergencies.
   

You may notice that nowhere does the WHO core functions do not involve concerns about international travel and trade, at least before they became China's lapdog, who's main concerns ARE international travel and trade, and obviously NOT cooperation functions, including disease eradication and emergencies.

 

Read the above a couple of times, mate. You may learn something....

 

If there is one thing I know about Donald J Trump is that he is absolutely obsessed with the ongoing fight to combat larvae based diseases in emerging African nations.

 

It's breathtaking how many speeches he's made on the matter and the funding and support he has released through the federal government to combat the diseases.

 

We could all learn a lot from Trump's selfless pursuit of a solution to this critical issue in the developing world. I would think that it will be his everlasting legacy when people look back on his presidency.

[benjii]

"No one knows more about the Onchocerciasis Control Programme than me."

[Guided Missile]

Trump-style deflection.

 

Classic.

You, mate, are a waste of bandwidth.

[badgerx16]

You, mate, are a waste of bandwidth.

Go on, put him on ignore. You know you want to.

[Guided Missile]

If there is one thing I know about Donald J Trump is that he is absolutely obsessed with the ongoing fight to combat larvae based diseases in emerging African nations.

No, sh!t-for-brains, the WHO was obsessed with the ongoing fight to combat larvae based diseases in emerging African nations, thus relieving "40 million people from infection, preventing blindness in 600 000 people, and ensuring that 18 million children were born free from the threat of the disease and blindness. In addition, 25 million hectares of abandoned arable land were reclaimed for settlement and agricultural production, capable of feeding 17 million people annually."

 

The Marxist WHO are now more obsessed with international travel and trade.

 

Still, I think that's enough of responding to pond life....

[Guided Missile]

Meanwhile, breaking news in the Telegraph, that well known Trump mouthpiece:

 

Criticism of the WHO has particularly targeted its Director, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, who is said to owe his appointment to China, for following Chinese preferences over internationally agreed guidelines – such as the International Health Regulations (IHR) – even going so far as to delay announcing it as a pandemic to avoid hurting China’s international standing. As Beijing’s was detaining its own doctors – early heroes against the disease – and suppressing geonomic research on the disease, Tedros was praising China for its “transparency” and “leadership”.

Perhaps more damningly, Taiwanese diplomats have claimed the WHO ignored early warnings in December about Covid-19 trasmission, from its own experts – in order to please Beijing – indicating that we might have been saved this pandemic, if the WHO had merely listened. This corruption of the WHO’s function is symptomatic of a wider trend, which has seen Beijing take over one-third of the UN’s 15 specialized agencies, appointing its officials to important posts where they immediately beginning implementing “Sino-centric” policies, using a combination of arm-twisting and lobbying.

[Winnersaint]

I see you tested positive for stupidity JJ.

 

Your posts don't often make me laugh as you come across as a right pompous know it all t w a t most of the time even though a lot what you say I am in agreement with, but in this case, this did cause me to chuckle.

[Tamesaint]

Go on, put him on ignore. You know you want to.

 

Its either that or piano wire treatment for Benjii.

[shurlock]

Trump does what other governments fear to do and pulls funding from the Marxist WHO, China's lapdog. Truly a leader the world needs and together with Boris, (continuing to play a blinder), will ensure the UK and the US will rebound. China and the EU will both sink without a trace....

 

I have a feeling it will be a great Xmas this year, for the survivors, who will not forget their continuing debt to the scientific and healthcare community. #dontforgetwhatchinadid

 

It’s not an either-or pal.

 

I’m intensely sceptical of some of China's motivations and behaviour. I know the country very well and understand what it challenges the CCP brings (N.B. it was one of the main reasons I voted remain as I see the EU as a counterweight in economic and trade terms to China’s growing influence. It also explains why China, like Russia, is very upbeat about Brexit and the prospect of a divided Europe and weakened UK. But hey Brexiters are incapable of thinking one move ahead -let alone five).

 

And yes I am very critical of WHO -Tedros Adhanom is a terrible DG (see his Mugabe gaff) and the WHO has been guilty of pussyfooting around China. But I also recognise the constraints under which it operates. It must work with a mix of democracies and authoritarian regimes. Like most international organisations, it has no real enforcement power -blame peoples obsession with national sovereignty in a world that is inherently interdependent for that pal. As a result it is wholly reliant on countries cooperation to achieve policy goals. If closed, secretive and frankly revisionist countries like China aren't going to play ball, that's the end of the story.

 

To promote better information flows and cooperation, international organisations like the WHO have no alternative but to build goodwill and trust with countries like China; but close interaction can be a double-edged sword and the risk is that they unwittingly end up in bed with them. Its not a conspiracy but a messy fact of life.

 

The failings of China and WHO of course do not excuse individual countries from responsibility - never mind the recklessness of halting funding for WHO as opposed to waiting and conducting a proper review once things calm down. Trump banned air travel from China. So what? If he was actually serious about combating the virus -rather than grandstanding with China- he wouldn't have repeatedly downplayed its seriousness (a 'hoax' and 'when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away' etc) and wasted critical time, in particular, the month of February. During that time, the White House made no effort to approach Congress for additional funding to prepare for the potential cost of wide-scale infection across the country or procure more equipment and ramp up testing and tracing.

 

This is despite the fact that, in contrast to politicians over here (see the Reuters article), experts were warning him of a possibility of pandemic very early on. Rather per the NYT he was more upset about what he saw as unnecessary scaremongering and its impact on things like the stock market (see his run-in with the director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases). Oxford University's Stringency Index shows that the US was one of the slowest countries to respond and was late in ramping up its efforts.

 

The more Trump lashes out not only at China and WHO but also remember Governors of individual states, the more flustered, culpable and pathetic he sounds. And useful idiots like you are happily facilitating it.

Edited 15 April, 2020 by shurlock

[badgerx16]

 

Still, I think that's enough of responding to pond life....

 

I thought your response to pond life was to spray it with poison.

[CB Fry]

I thought your response to pond life was to spray it with poison.

Brilliant.

[benjii]

It’s not an either-or pal.

 

I’m intensely sceptical of China (N.B. it was one of the main reasons I voted remain as I see the EU as a counterweight in economic and trade terms to China’s growing influence. It also explains why China, like Russia, is very upbeat about Brexit and the prospect of a divided Europe and weakened UK. But hey Brexiters are incapable of thinking one move ahead -let alone five, so it will doubtless go over your head).

 

And yes I am very critical of WHO -Tedros Adhanom is a terrible DG (see his Mugabe gaff) and the WHO has been guilty of pussyfooting around China. But I also recognise the constraints under which it operates. It must work with a mix of democracies and authoritarian regimes. Like most international organisations, it has no real enforcement power -blame peoples obsession with national sovereignty in a world that is inherently interdependent for that pal. As a result it is wholly reliant on countries cooperation to achieve policy goals. If closed, secretive and frankly revisionist countries like China aren't going to play ball, that's the end of the story.

 

To promote better information flows and cooperation, international organisations like the WHO have no alternative but to build goodwill and trust with countries like China; but close interaction can be a double-edged sword and the risk is that they unwittingly end up in bed with them. Its not a conspiracy but a messy fact of life.

 

The failings of China and WHO of course do not excuse individual countries from responsibility - never mind the recklessness of halting funding for WHO as opposed to waiting and conducting a proper review once things calm down. Trump banned air travel from China. So what? If he was actually serious about combating the virus -rather than grandstanding with China- he wouldn't have repeatedly downplayed its seriousness (a 'hoax' and 'when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away' etc) and wasted critical time, in particular, the month of February. During that time, the White House made no effort to approach Congress for additional funding to prepare for the potential cost of wide-scale infection across the country or procure more equipment and ramp up testing and tracing.

 

This is despite the fact that, in contrast to politicians over here (see the Reuters article), experts were warning him of a possibility of pandemic very early on. Rather per the NYT he was more upset about what he saw as unnecessary scaremongering and its impact on things like the stock market (see his run-in with the director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases). Oxford University's Stringency Index shows that the US was one of the slowest countries to respond and was late in ramping up its efforts.

 

The more Trump lashes out not only at China and WHO but also remember Governors of individual states, the more flustered, culpable and pathetic he sounds. And useful idiots like you are happily facilitating it.

 

Indeed. One can be critical of the WHO and China without swallowing Trump's rancid load.

 

And, in any case, Trump seems pretty cool with China's response. As he said on 24 January: "The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People [sic], I want to thank President Xi".

 

#stablegenius

 

I think it's clear from this, and the homo-erotic helicopter trips, that GM likes a strong man.

 

Unfortunately, Trump is a dribbling, incoherent, pathetic wreck. Poor choice.

[benjii]

I thought your response to pond life was to spray it with poison.

 

[shurlock]

Indeed. One can be critical of the WHO and China without swallowing Trump's rancid load.

 

And, in any case, Trump seems pretty cool with China's response. As he said on 24 January: "The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People [sic], I want to thank President Xi".

 

#stablegenius

 

I think it's clear from this, and the homo-erotic helicopter trips that GM likes a strong man.

 

Unfortunately, Trump is a dribbling, incoherent, pathetic wreck. Poor choice.

 

Yeh. You read the NYT article and it emerges Trump was also worried about ruffling Chinese feathers both because it could have scuttled his trade deal with China but also because the US is so reliant on China for pharmaceuticals and protective equipment.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/11/us/politics/coronavirus-trump-response.html

[benjii]

Also, does anyone know why he pronounces it:

 

Chaye.......na!

 

? Apart from the obvious reason that he is mentally impaired.

[Guided Missile]

One can be critical of the WHO and China without swallowing Trump's rancid load....homo-erotic helicopter trips...????

The above post confirms that you are a total weirdo. I'd stick to your normal porn site haunts, mate. You make f*** all sense on here. And don't quote Gavyn, please. The last thing we need is another rambling post from that socialist, African, anglophobic, windbag...

[benjii]

The above post confirms that you are a total weirdo. I'd stick to your normal porn site haunts, mate. You make f*** all sense on here. And don't quote Gavyn, please. The last thing we need is another rambling post from that socialist, African, anglophobic, windbag...

 

Deflection. Classic Trump.

[badgerx16]

And don't quote Gavyn, please. The last thing we need is another rambling post from that socialist, African, anglophobic, windbag...

 

On the other hand, perhaps the 'last thing we need' is another neo-con, Trump worshipping, load of xenophobic claptrap from you.

[whelk]

Has Trump’s approval rating taking a hit during all this?

I get many dumb fcks (see above) will love him whatever but surely many more must be very concerned and scared to have a toddler in charge.

[CB Fry]

Has Trump’s approval rating taking a hit during all this?

I get many dumb fcks (see above) will love him whatever but surely many more must be very concerned and scared to have a toddler in charge.

Its held up well because of the natural instinct to trust leaders (whoever they are) in a crisis.

 

I fully expect the Don to successfully spin whatever the death toll is as being a massive success achieved against the odds.

 

We're two weeks away from him saying in press conference things like "the Democrats were saying five million would die but I've got it down to only 150,000 but no one is giving me any credit".

 

Useful idiots like Guided Missile across the USA will fu cking lap it up.

[Guided Missile]

....and who pays for the WHO...?

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[TD]United States of America[/TD]

[TD]14.67%[/TD]

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[TR]

[TD]Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation[/TD]

[TD]9.76%[/TD]

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[TR]

[TD]GAVI Alliance (aka Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation)[/TD]

[TD]8.39%[/TD]

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[TR]

[TD]United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland[/TD]

[TD]7.79%[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Germany[/TD]

[TD]5.68%[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]European Commission[/TD]

[TD]3.3%[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Japan[/TD]

[TD]2.73%[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Italy[/TD]

[TD]0.54%[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]France[/TD]

[TD]0.5%[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]Wellcome Trust[/TD]

[TD]0.28%[/TD]

[/TR]

[TR]

[TD]China[/TD]

[TD]0.21%[/TD]

[/TR]

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China? 0.21%? Really?

 

No, over 40% of the funding for the WHO comes from the US, together with their capitalist running dogs, Bill Gates and the UK....

[badgerx16]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2020/04/08/which-countries-are-the-biggest-financial-contributors-to-the-world-health-organization-infographic/#6dbb96fe494c

 

" In its most recent budget proposal in February, the Trump administration requested a reduction in U.S. financial contributions to the WHO from $122.6m to an assessed contribution of $57.9m. Despite the slashed budget, that figure still makes the U.S. the WHO's top financial contributor by far. China pays in the second highest sum, $28.6m, followed by Japan's $20.5m. The total sum of assessed contributions invoiced by the WHO on January 01 and due for payment this year stood at $246.8 million, of which $79 million had been paid by members as of March 31. "

 

This is for 'assessed contributions', which are effectively the membership fees. Over and above this there are voluntary contributions, which may be for specific projects or programs, and make up the larger part of WHO spending.

Edited 15 April, 2020 by badgerx16

[whelk]

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Edited 15 April, 2020 by whelk
Wrong quote

[whelk]

Its held up well because of the natural instinct to trust leaders (whoever they are) in a crisis.

 

I fully expect the Don to successfully spin whatever the death toll is as being a massive success achieved against the odds.

 

We're two weeks away from him saying in press conference things like "the Democrats were saying five million would die but I've got it down to only 150,000 but no one is giving me any credit".

 

Useful idiots like Guided Missile across the USA will fu cking lap it up.

 

Another to keep 30 million unemployed content with very little savings and systems not really there to support them.

[Guided Missile]

Its held up well because of the natural instinct to trust leaders (whoever they are) in a crisis.

 

I fully expect the Don to successfully spin whatever the death toll is as being a massive success achieved against the odds.

 

We're two weeks away from him saying in press conference things like "the Democrats were saying five million would die but I've got it down to only 150,000 but no one is giving me any credit".

 

Useful idiots like Guided Missile across the USA will fu cking lap it up.

....and useful idiots like me will vote for him and he'll have 4 more years, just like useful idiots like me voted for Boris, to a 80 seat majority. Democracy is great, isn't it and the bonus is the results p!$$ geniuses like you off so much...

Suck it up, buttercup and get used to Trump and Boris.

[Mystic Force]

I get angrier and angrier sitting here going through this whole experience, with the incompetence and out right lying. Now the stimulus bill is passed small businesses are not receiving help, but lobbyists are descending on DC to get their snout in the trough ignoring all social distancing. People getting paper checks for their funds have to wait longer so they get the privilege of seeing Donald's signature rather than timely funds if you don't have direct deposit you are likely to be in the group most needing this. Trump continues to find enemies to blame instead of being a leader, if he simply took responsibility and told people what they need to do to keep safe and get things back to normal his supporters would all listen and join the program. But to have the guy in charge keep up this constant BS show is insufferable. If the US stops being the leading world power it will be this moment that will be pointed to for when it occurred. For the supposedly most advanced country in the world there is certainly a lot of dump people. I am not sure if you removed the coasts the inhabitants could send a man to the moon, they might be hard pressed to send that man to Albuquerque.

[Tamesaint]

....and useful idiots like me will vote for him and he'll have 4 more years, just like useful idiots like me voted for Boris, to a 80 seat majority. Democracy is great, isn't it and the bonus is the results p!$$ geniuses like you off so much...

Suck it up, buttercup and get used to Trump and Boris.

 

He won't get 4 more years.

[badgerx16]

....and useful idiots like me will vote for him and he'll have 4 more years, just like useful idiots like me voted for Boris, to a 80 seat majority. Democracy is great, isn't it and the bonus is the results p!$$ geniuses like you off so much...

Suck it up, buttercup and get used to Trump and Boris.

As they say, you can fool some of the people all of the time.

Edited 16 April, 2020 by badgerx16

[CB Fry]

....and useful idiots like me will vote for him and he'll have 4 more years, just like useful idiots like me voted for Boris, to a 80 seat majority. Democracy is great, isn't it and the bonus is the results p!$$ geniuses like you off so much...

Suck it up, buttercup and get used to Trump and Boris.

We know, sweetheart. Well done.

[Window Cleaner]

He won't get 4 more years.

 

Probably not no, just get replaced by another doddery old fool who'll probably not last 4 years either. Haven't they got anyone who's not 70+ and has a bit of savvy?

[whelk]

Probably not no, just get replaced by another doddery old fool who'll probably not last 4 years either. Haven't they got anyone who's not 70+ and has a bit of savvy?

 

Yes but he was only allowed two terms

[buctootim]

Probably not no, just get replaced by another doddery old fool who'll probably not last 4 years either. Haven't they got anyone who's not 70+ and has a bit of savvy?

 

Its become like Buggins turn. Unless you are a billionaire or the son, wife or deputy of a former President its hard to get any traction.

[Tamesaint]

Nutters like JJ probably cannot wait until the likes of Donald junior and Barron continue the work started by their pa.

[hypochondriac]

Its become like Buggins turn. Unless you are a billionaire or the son, wife or deputy of a former President its hard to get any traction.

It's a bit mad isn't it. A country of millions and those are the two best candidates they can muster.

[Mystic Force]

Nutters like JJ probably cannot wait until the likes of Donald junior and Barron continue the work started by their pa.

 

Why is it that Tiffany never gets any love?

[Guided Missile]

Trump leads the world out of the darkness. Great move last night...

[badgerx16]

[badgerx16]

Trump leads the world out of the darkness. Great move last night...

Producing 'guidelines' but no timetable. And after Germany, Austria, Italy, Denmark, Spain, and Poland had already announced a partial easing of their restrictions.

[norwaysaint]

Trump leads the world out of the darkness. Great move last night...

 

Following rather than leading, surely? The US wouldn't even be close to being among the first to relax measures.

 

No problem with that if he's been given the right advice by people who understand these things, it has to happen sometime and it's finding the right balance between the curves of the economy and the infection rate. Measures are being slowly relaxed here too over the coming weeks. I'm optimistic as Norway has managed to get the infection rate right down. I haven't really paid attention to the curve in the US, to be honest, but I assume it's flattened out if they are relaxing measures.

[benjii]

He does what Putin tells him.

 

Useful idiot.

[whelk]

Bookies have the next election pretty close. No doubt if he loses as Bill Maher says he will be shouting about irregularities in the voting and won’t leave. Fox News will support this

 

5/6 Trump

6/5 Biden

 

 

https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election-2020/winner

[saint1977]

It's a bit mad isn't it. A country of millions and those are the two best candidates they can muster.

 

Millions, or rather billions is the problem. Their political system is like a political version of Football Manager with the editor on for 1% of the entire population and even some of those would be priced out. You wouldn't have the daughter of a greengrocer, son of a bus driver or single parent going for the Presidency there. The pool, not only for political leaders, but in their national media as well, is so tiny and partisan so no surprise the discourse is so narrow and stale.

 

Talk of draining the swamp is an ironic joke - Trump was from a different part of the swamp but firmly part of the swamp. As are the Clintons et al. Sanders is from a part of the electorate that would never win there and is reminiscent of Corbyn in some ways with more savvy. Biden is 25 years past his sell by date but has the connections to compete financially.

 

To think the Americans used to call Britain elitist as well.

[The Cat]

The Democrats are handing the election to Trump if they run a campaign with Biden as leader. I really can't see him winning.

[Mystic Force]

I have been looking at the graphs for the US closely and only one state has had a significant drop in detected cases and that is Louisiana, which is for a unique reason that their big spread was because of Mardi Gras, If you pick a random state the number of detected cases now is higher than the day the orders of isolation began. So if we relax things now the base load of cases to start wild spread rates will be much higher than when we shut stuff down and the infection rate will just take off. We need to bring it down till it manageable by test and trace and that infrastructure is not in place and the numbers still to big to be able to handle that yet.

[farawaysaint]

The Democrats are handing the election to Trump if they run a campaign with Biden as leader. I really can't see him winning.

 

Who were the other choices? Bernie wouldn’t have got anywhere as he is far too left for the us voters.

[benjii]

I have been looking at the graphs for the US closely and only one state has had a significant drop in detected cases and that is Louisiana, which is for a unique reason that their big spread was because of Mardi Gras, If you pick a random state the number of detected cases now is higher than the day the orders of isolation began. So if we relax things now the base load of cases to start wild spread rates will be much higher than when we shut stuff down and the infection rate will just take off. We need to bring it down till it manageable by test and trace and that infrastructure is not in place and the numbers still to big to be able to handle that yet.

 

Don't worry, the best minds are on it. Trust in Ivanka, Jared, Vince McMahon and Uncle Vlad.

[buctootim]

Who were the other choices? Bernie wouldn’t have got anywhere as he is far too left for the us voters.

 

Michael Bloomberg is good (alrthough should have run 4 years ago, not now) and and New York state governor Cuomo.

[norwaysaint]

Michael Bloomberg is good (alrthough should have run 4 years ago, not now) and and New York state governor Cuomo.

 

Cuomo wasn't an option and Bloomberg couldn't even win over many democrats, let alone wooing Trump supporters. I agree that Biden does not have the personality to win an election. It was a pretty lame line up of old men and women to choose from. None of the options were at all inspiring. The democrats really need to find a rising star.

[buctootim]

Cuomo wasn't an option and Bloomberg couldn't even win over many democrats, let alone wooing Trump supporters. I agree that Biden does not have the personality to win an election. It was a pretty lame line up of old men and women to choose from. None of the options were at all inspiring. The democrats really need to find a rising star.

 

There are some who want to dump Biden even at this late stage. No idea how likely or possible that is.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/10/democrats-want-to-drop-joe-biden-for-andrew-cuomo-poll-finds/