SKD Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 Not great by bednerak but **** me, dreadful from targett. He’s just stood and watched. To think we could have got 15m for that clown in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 Does anyone genuinely think that wouldn’t be given if it was Aguero going down in our box? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 Sure, 20 years ago it was never a penalty. Nowadays, that is a penalty, so long as the attacker is in a Top Six Club. It really is that simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 Did well for 40 mins, penalty perhaps, I mean the other way I'm sure city would have got it. Then two soft goals and all over. People love him because he's not Forster but I'm tired of seeing McCarthy concede goals like that. Makes some saves, always busy fair enough rubbish defence in front, but Ederson saves both those goals. Aguero's header was weak. Both would take good saves, but that's what good keepers do. Too often teams are getting goals that wouldn't happen against better keepers and we can't afford to give them away. Don't forget he made two excellent instinctive saves or it would be five at half time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 Hilarious that anyone thinks that's a penalty. Not a chance. And you think the ref waves things away if Stephens does the same to Silva at the other end of the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 Love the contrarians coming in to say no penalty. Liverpool got 2 that much less contact than that. You could even see Zimchenco saying “phew, got away with that one”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosin Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 Hilarious that anyone thinks that's a penalty. Not a chance. Depends where u r watching I guess, NBC saying it is a clear pen, Sky sports saying it is 50 / 50 if a ref gives it, Sky sports biased to top 6, NBC honest don't care, think ill go with NBC who say clear pen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 outside of the penalty, the ref is giving us nothing austin is being climbed all over and gets nothing... Do you believe that the PL officials are being directly instructed on which teams to favour, and how to swing matches to give the PL a pre-ordained outcome ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 Do you believe that the PL officials are being directly instructed on which teams to favour, and how to swing matches to give the PL a pre-ordained outcome ? no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 And you think the ref waves things away if Stephens does the same to Silva at the other end of the pitch.Probably not but that just shows bias. It wouldn't be a penalty either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 Robbie Earle calling out the double standards by refs. Robbie Earle, what does he know. Hypochondriac and Badger say “no pen”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 Do you believe that the PL officials are being directly instructed on which teams to favour, and how to swing matches to give the PL a pre-ordained outcome ? Of course not. It is subconscious bias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 https://twitter.com/moshirisboys/status/1078576188958916608?s=21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 Do you believe that the PL officials are being directly instructed on which teams to favour, and how to swing matches to give the PL a pre-ordained outcome ? There is definitely a Mancunian conspiracy to stop Liverpool from winning the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 Probably not but that just shows bias. It wouldn't be a penalty either way. Based on the pens given recently it's nailed on a pen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 I thought it was a penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 I’m sure that would be given at Anfield or OT but it wasn’t a pen. The faintest of contact and he went down like a sack of spuds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 Do you believe that the PL officials are being directly instructed on which teams to favour, and how to swing matches to give the PL a pre-ordained outcome ? No but it’s natural for them to favour the big team so that any mistakes are nullified. No one cares if Saints lose to a dodgy decision but it’s wold news if you’re the ref that ****ed up City’s title push. It’s human nature, called compliance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 Robbie Earle, what does he know. Hypochondriac and Badger say “no pen”. Show me where I said that. I am arguing against a concious bias by the officials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 Based on the pens given recently it's nailed on a penJust because some stupid soft penalty decisions have been given doesn't mean this one should be. Jwp went down way too easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Benali Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 I didn't think it was one but as others have said if it was the other way around it's a 100% penalty to City. Hopefully all that will stop when VAR comes in though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 Redmond on for the poor Lemina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 I didn't think it was one but as others have said if it was the other way around it's a 100% penalty to City. Hopefully all that will stop when VAR comes in though.Agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosin Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 Just because some stupid soft penalty decisions have been given doesn't mean this one should be. Jwp went down way too easily. He is running full out turning in while being pushed the opposite way in which you are trying to turn, you would go down with a small nudge let alone a forceful push in the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 City will get a penalty now and it’ll be a huge dive too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 If that would’ve been Aguero in our box, it would’ve been 100 percent a penalty. Even if it’s a foul or not. Btw pushing someone in the back and not trying to even win the ball, is a foul no matter what side it is for or where it is on the pitch. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 Show me where I said that. I am arguing against a concious bias by the officials. Fair enough, it was someone else. Speed reading here. It’s an unconscious bias called compliance. Quite an interesting topic really, the studies are fascinating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 I didn't think it was one but as others have said if it was the other way around it's a 100% penalty to City. Hopefully all that will stop when VAR comes in though. Probably won't, the VAR official has to find clear and decisive evidence of an incorrect decision. It'll be another human opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 I didn't think it was one but as others have said if it was the other way around it's a 100% penalty to City. Hopefully all that will stop when VAR comes in though. I agree...just when Salah wins 2-3 very soft penalties over a few days..just shows how weak the officials are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosin Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 If that would’ve been Aguero in our box, it would’ve been 100 percent a penalty. Even if it’s a foul or not. Btw pushing someone in the back and not trying to even win the ball, is a foul no matter what side it is for or where it is on the pitch. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Cant believe this, but I agree with you for once...……….. no attempt was made to win the ball, he pushed him in the back, even if JWP stayed on his feet, its a pen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10i Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 It was no penalty, no matter which decisions Liverpool got. I don't want such a pen for us and of course not against us. JWP through and goes down instead of scoring. Well... JWP, Stephens and Targett horrendous, Ramsay seems to do better than Valery. McCarthy kept us in the game early on as we could easily have been down by three, but could have done better with the last two... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 I didn't think it was one but as others have said if it was the other way around it's a 100% penalty to City. Hopefully all that will stop when VAR comes in though. Except it won't as VAR will only overule blatant errors. In cases like that even if a review happens the ref may very well still retain the same levels of implicit bias as it will still come down to his judgement as to whether there was enough contact. JWP would probably get a yellow card if VAR had been present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 Whether or not it was a penalty, the problem was that the officials then gave a goal kick whi h should have been a corner, and that lead to City scoring. Happen to think it was a pen, but offi ials are very poor and it's costing us. Lemina has been awful. What does Moi do, absolute waste of space. Target was terrible first 10 minutes but got better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 Terrible weekend for Saints and Huddersfield. All our relegation rivals getting morale boosting victories. Big shakeup needed in January. Need a bit of luck too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosin Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 Except it won't as VAR will only overule blatant errors. In cases like that even if a review happens the ref may very well still retain the same levels of implicit bias as it will still come down to his judgement as to whether there was enough contact. JWP would probably get a yellow card if VAR had been present. You cant push some one from behind, any challenge from behind is considered a foul unless you win the ball, so when you cant even reach the ball. Its a free kick / pen, not matter how soft.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Benali Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 Except it won't as VAR will only overule blatant errors. . I thought VAR was to check all goals, penalty decisions, red cards and mistaken identity? So if the way it was used at the world cup is used the same in the PL the ref would have to review the penalty decision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 Wasn’t there a situation in the World Cup where the ref just said “no, I’m right, I’m not consulting VAR, play on” and when they showed the replay he was dead wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 Elynoussi being garbage there. Ps zonal marking on their free kick...utter madness Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabbage_Face Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 It was no penalty, no matter which decisions Liverpool got. I don't want such a pen for us and of course not against us. JWP through and goes down instead of scoring. Well... JWP, Stephens and Targett horrendous, Ramsay seems to do better than Valery. McCarthy kept us in the game early on as we could easily have been down by three, but could have done better with the last two... Jwp couldn’t go through because the player who was the wrong side of him pushed him over and didn’t even attempt to win the ball, that’s why it’s a foul and a penalty. It’s really no rocket science. It’s not like they were shoulder to shoulder and the other guy was stronger. He was out of position and ****ed it up. No way on gods earth a player can do what JWP did and stay on his feet. Ridiculous. It’s a foul, that happens on edge of box, free kick to us. Also why didn’t the ref book JWP for diving if it’s not a penalty? Is he saying it’s a dive or a foul? Utter ******** either way. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 Good save McCarthy! With his face! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue_Saint Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 Ward prowse sleeping. So ****tt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 England players (at the WC) knew VAR could work in their favour and ensured chaos in the opponents box at each set-piece/corner, threw themselves all over the place and pressured the ref to use VAR....Guess it worked and the likes of Liverpool etc will do the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 What’s the point in bringing Valery on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 Just because some stupid soft penalty decisions have been given doesn't mean this one should be. Jwp went down way too easily. But isn't that because he's so lightweight? Regardless of how easily he went down, it's still a blatant push in the back and a foul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 What’s the point in bringing Valery on? No idea - try and keep it to 3 perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastic Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 What a dreadful collection of players we have assembled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 What’s the point in bringing Valery on? For Romeu? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 So the def mid 2 are now JWP and Hoj. Oh boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 isnt Rom 1 card away from a suspension? this game is lost, prepare for the next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKsaint Posted 30 December, 2018 Share Posted 30 December, 2018 Whether or not it was a penalty, the problem was that the officials then gave a goal kick whi h should have been a corner, and that lead to City scoring. Happen to think it was a pen, but offi ials are very poor and it's costing us. Lemina has been awful. What does Moi do, absolute waste of space. Target was terrible first 10 minutes but got better. Agreed. Useless and lost the ball very often. Please release him, if cannot sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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