Willo of Whiteley Posted yesterday at 05:36 Posted yesterday at 05:36 I posted the below on April 10th in the SR new leaf thread: I’m sure this’ll be merged in the ST thread soon, but let’s not gloss over this - Sport Republic have been a disaster. The headlines a simple: - 14th when they took over and a sustainable and desirable Premier League team. - Two relegations within three of their four full seasons. - The second worst Premier League finish in history, and the worst for us. But they’ve invested money! Let’s analyse that. - They spent recklessly in their first full season, Romeo Lavia was the only success. - They changed how they scout players from effectively scouts to a digital database that analyses them. This crop of intelligence scouted us gems such as Sekou Mara and Armel Bella-Kotchap. - The wastefulness of their spending has seen a squad change more times, almost as much as Watford change managers. Ah, the managers, there’s been some success there. Bollocks… Ralph Hassenhutl - excellent with Martin Semmens and his coaching team and not much money, good getting the best out of players. Probably not given any real say in transfers in SR first summer. Sacked, fail. Nathan Jones - clown from a Welsh mining village who married a nice girl, made more enemies in as short a space of time as a dictator would. Sacked, the first of the glorious “Black Box Data Driven Appointments”. Sacked, fail. Ruben Selles - damage limitation, appointed after a fluke win and subsequently led us downwards at the same time as Unai Emery was appointed by Villa. Sacked, fail. Russell Martin - good appointment, promotion, but boring football at times, stubbornness cost him, naivety in the transfer window, and should’ve done a lot better with the squad at his disposal. Sacked, but a pass. Ivan Juric - heavy metal football? Heavy metal bullshit. Who’d have thought bringing in a defensive manager when you’re bottom of the league would keep you up? SR did. Sacked. Fail. Will Still - Football Manager enthusiast, first big gig but stubbornness, lack of direction and leadership cost him massively. Big, big mistake from SR that will now potentially cost us promotion in what is a very weak Championship. Sacked, fail. Now Tonda Eckhart - we all had low expectations, but let’s not beat around the bush, he was brought in for the U21’s, not the first team, and fair play to him for working wonders with the resources he’s got. But surely SR have done well in other avenues? Ah, ffs… Goztepe, promotion holding their own and seemingly the only team benefitting from the glorious “multi-club model”. Albeit in the Turkish league they’ve done ok. Valenciennes, “baby are you down” as the song goes, because that’s the way they’re heading too, and have been since the takeover. Chopping and changing of managers. The ONLY positives I’ll give SR is the commercial side, so Level One, The Dell Bar, the matchday atmosphere outside the ground, all excellent. But that’s it. Let’s not gloss over all this, SR get little backing from me until we’re at least back where we started when they took over. Now to add: Spying - and seemingly we’re shit at that too. Another fantastic notch to add to their list of accomplishments during their time here. String boycotts need to happen. Demands of refunds. Dont buy any more merchandise, season tickets etc. Another humiliation. It’s like watching a live example of how not to run a business. Regardless of whether the higher ups knew or not, this is on their watch. 1
Osvaldorama Posted yesterday at 07:11 Posted yesterday at 07:11 Just when you thought they’d turned a corner… They really do have to go now. This is too much. 1
SaintNewForest Posted yesterday at 07:17 Posted yesterday at 07:17 Embarrassment after Embarrassment with these.
S-Clarke Posted yesterday at 07:39 Posted yesterday at 07:39 2 hours ago, CB Fry said: It takes some doing that SR have turned the best manager they have appointed into the worst manager in our history in just six months. Fucking bravo lads. They truly are the gift that keeps on giving, when you think they can't get any worse, they do this.
Gloucester Saint Posted yesterday at 08:27 Posted yesterday at 08:27 (edited) Clear the debts by way of apology, get the club on the market by Friday at an attractive price and fuck off quickly. Those are the only acceptable actions from Dragan Solak. It’ll be many years if at all as to whether I engage again but at least it would finally show good faith to the city of my birth. Edited yesterday at 08:28 by Gloucester Saint
Patrick Bateman Posted yesterday at 08:36 Posted yesterday at 08:36 STILL nothing on the fucking website.
S-Clarke Posted yesterday at 08:38 Posted yesterday at 08:38 Just now, Patrick Bateman said: STILL nothing on the fucking website. It's fucking ridiculous isn't it, they've even handled this part badly. I just can't put into words what is going on here. Is this part of an elaborate prank, or an episode of Ted Lasso or something? This would even be far fetched for that. 1
AlexLaw76 Posted yesterday at 08:39 Posted yesterday at 08:39 Just now, S-Clarke said: It's fucking ridiculous isn't it, they've even handled this part badly. I just can't put into words what is going on here. Is this part of an elaborate prank, or an episode of Ted Lasso or something? This would even be far fetched for that. The Hull Fixture has gone from the OS Let me see if my refund is being processed 1
S-Clarke Posted yesterday at 08:42 Posted yesterday at 08:42 1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said: The Hull Fixture has gone from the OS Let me see if my refund is being processed Just noticed. All references to play off build up removed too. But still no statement. Bonkers. What do they think silence is going to do here? I remember when Lallana got hurt by naughty words said by that ref years ago, we threw an article on the OS same night saying we were appealing. Ditto when we said VVD had been spoken to illegally etc etc. But we do go quiet when we're the ones in the wrong, stand up and own it you weak fuckers.
Pamplemousse Posted yesterday at 08:43 Posted yesterday at 08:43 Can someone lobby Rishi and his wife to make Dragan an offer he can't refuse? Any other wealthy Southampton fans we know of? 1
Turkish Posted yesterday at 08:43 Posted yesterday at 08:43 I can’t help but feel this is going to have huge repercussions internally. No way can Tonda and anyone else involved keep Their jobs, sounds like players are fuming so I’d expect them to be pushing for moves in the summer so it’s going to be a complete rebuild on and off the pitch. Where does the buck stop? Does it go all the way up to Parsons? It happened under his watch so he ultimately carries the can but will he lay it all on Spors for not knowing what his manager was doing? Sounds like the club is screwed financially too without promotion so maybe even worse than that. 3 1
Patrick Bateman Posted yesterday at 08:44 Posted yesterday at 08:44 Just now, Pamplemousse said: Can someone lobby Rishi and his wife to make Dragan an offer he can't refuse? Any other wealthy Southampton fans we know of? Just got to find someone who appreciates the New Forest, West Quay for shopping and being the biggest club on the South coast. Oh, hi Bournemouth in Europe ... FFS
S-Clarke Posted yesterday at 08:45 Posted yesterday at 08:45 Just now, Turkish said: I can’t help but feel this is going to have huge repercussions internally. No way can Tonda and anyone else involved keep Their jobs, sounds like players are fuming so I’d expect them to be pushing for moves in the summer so it’s going to be a complete rebuild on and off the pitch. Where does the buck stop? Does it go all the way up to Parsons? It happened under his watch so he ultimately carries the can but will he lay it all on Spors for not knowing what his manager was doing? Sounds like the club is screwed financially too without promotion so maybe even worse than that. The buck stops with the entire ownership model for me. They need to sell up. New owners in who can bring in their own people and build their own setup. The entire place is complicit in my eyes. There is talk about relegation for clearing the rot, but is that something we'd take next season if it meant we could start again? I have no idea what the future holds at this point.
benjii Posted yesterday at 08:48 Posted yesterday at 08:48 Hard to put into words how fucking useless these cunts have been. With decent financial backing, too! Everything is in place for them and they cause disaster after disaster. 1
Turkish Posted yesterday at 08:48 Posted yesterday at 08:48 2 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: The buck stops with the entire ownership model for me. They need to sell up. New owners in who can bring in their own people and build their own setup. The entire place is complicit in my eyes. There is talk about relegation for clearing the rot, but is that something we'd take next season if it meant we could start again? I have no idea what the future holds at this point. But that needs someone to buy us, we are probably one of the least attractive propositions in Europe right now!
Toussaint Posted yesterday at 08:50 Posted yesterday at 08:50 6 minutes ago, Turkish said: I can’t help but feel this is going to have huge repercussions internally. No way can Tonda and anyone else involved keep Their jobs, sounds like players are fuming so I’d expect them to be pushing for moves in the summer so it’s going to be a complete rebuild on and off the pitch. Where does the buck stop? Does it go all the way up to Parsons? It happened under his watch so he ultimately carries the can but will he lay it all on Spors for not knowing what his manager was doing? Sounds like the club is screwed financially too without promotion so maybe even worse than that. Where did you get the players are fuming bit from, which sure they are.
S-Clarke Posted yesterday at 08:50 Posted yesterday at 08:50 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Turkish said: But that needs someone to buy us, we are probably one of the least attractive propositions in Europe right now! Yep, absolutely. Selling is easier said than done, but I will always believe that containing with this lot will be a stain on us for ever. So Dragan needs to start putting the feelers out, he'll have to take a loss but that's his fault. We shouldn't be punished long term for their ineptitude. Interesting to know what Kat thinks of all this, although a minimal part, she is still a 'visible' person and part of the board. Liebherr are dragged into this too. Poor Markus is all I can say. Edited yesterday at 08:51 by S-Clarke 1
Hamwic Posted yesterday at 08:52 Posted yesterday at 08:52 15 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said: STILL nothing on the fucking website. Unlikely to see anything until the appeal has finished.
Turkish Posted yesterday at 08:54 Posted yesterday at 08:54 3 minutes ago, Toussaint said: Where did you get the players are fuming bit from, which sure they are. A few posts on X (yes I know, I know) but you would be wouldn’t you. A seasons work ruined by some pricks with phones 3
Toussaint Posted yesterday at 08:56 Posted yesterday at 08:56 1 minute ago, Turkish said: A few posts on X (yes I know, I know) but you would be wouldn’t you. A seasons work ruined by some pricks with phones Yes, they have been totally undermined and made fools of. We won’t see any of the better ones in a Saints shirt again. 1
S-Clarke Posted yesterday at 08:58 Posted yesterday at 08:58 2 minutes ago, Turkish said: A few posts on X (yes I know, I know) but you would be wouldn’t you. A seasons work ruined by some pricks with phones Lots of detail around the players thoughts in the Athletic article as well. This has brought reputational damage to them as well, and footballers are 'brands' these days. It's all an absolute mess and I can sense this getting a hell of a lot worse. Law suits will be the order of the entire summer, forget transfers. 2
Turkish Posted yesterday at 09:03 Posted yesterday at 09:03 3 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Lots of detail around the players thoughts in the Athletic article as well. This has brought reputational damage to them as well, and footballers are 'brands' these days. It's all an absolute mess and I can sense this getting a hell of a lot worse. Law suits will be the order of the entire summer, forget transfers. If we’re found to be in breach of contract or broken some sort of regulation wonder if they could walk for free? Imagine the likes to Azaz and THB walking for nothing when we still owe tens of millions to the clubs we signed them from. It could actually put us into admin
Toussaint Posted yesterday at 09:04 Posted yesterday at 09:04 1 minute ago, S-Clarke said: Lots of detail around the players thoughts in the Athletic article as well. This has brought reputational damage to them as well, and footballers are 'brands' these days. It's all an absolute mess and I can sense this getting a hell of a lot worse. Law suits will be the order of the entire summer, forget transfers. There could be legal actions in every direction - Southampton supporters v SFC coach companies hotels Wembley v sfc Hull v EFL SFC v Middlesbrough SFC v EFL Players V SFC data breaches/ gdpr / slander / libel the list could be endless. I lot of people/ entities / parties have suffered economic loss or damage to reputation. What a mess.
S-Clarke Posted yesterday at 09:06 Posted yesterday at 09:06 Just now, Turkish said: If we’re found to be in breach of contract or broken some sort of regulation wonder if they could walk for free? Imagine the likes to Azaz and THB walking for nothing when we still owe tens of millions to the clubs we signed them from. It could actually put us into admin This is why I imagine there are the PFA angles being played out at the moment, players will be looking through their contracts for any little thing.
Willo of Whiteley Posted yesterday at 09:22 Posted yesterday at 09:22 Players should’ve pulled their finger out at the start of the season
Willo of Whiteley Posted yesterday at 09:23 Posted yesterday at 09:23 Imagine being a fly on the wall of the training ground today!
Saintinnot Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago Nows the time to mount a serious campaign to get these Fuckers out of our club. How we do it I don't know ? Maybe a boycott of season tickets ?
S-Clarke Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago They have been a disaster, anyone sticking up for them at all in this mess needs to have a long hard look at themselves. They are the reason we were relegated from the Premier League after a decade due to incompetent scouting. They are the reason we were relegated from the Premier League AGAIN on a record humiliation due to incompetent scouting and management. They are the reason we have now been EXPELLED from the playoffs and face a 2nd year in a lower league. We have gone through Ralph, Jones, Selles, Martin, Juric, Rusk, Still, Tonda. We have gone through Joe Shields, Wilcox, Bitcon, Spors as DoF's. All of this in, what, 4 years? They have destroyed every inch of what this club stood for and have tarnished us in ways I never felt was possible. Dragan and everyone associated need to pack up, get the fuck out, and never, ever, ever work in Football again. I would implore the fans of Valenciennes and Goztepe to also join in this, as these people cannot be allowed to continue in football. 6
Gloucester Saint Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 12 hours ago, Turkish said: It could actually put us into admin If it gets rid of Ankerson and Solak permanently then a price well worth paying. Confident the club would get a decent buyer but obviously L1 again.
Gloucester Saint Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago (edited) 28 minutes ago, Saintinnot said: Nows the time to mount a serious campaign to get these Fuckers out of our club. How we do it I don't know ? Maybe a boycott of season tickets ? The modern fanbase is SR’s poodle. 🐩 Take your own action and those around you. If enough follow, the 14k zealots there was under Lowe soon get outnumbered and the bills are more than Dragan is willing to underwrite. Edited 19 hours ago by Gloucester Saint
Dr. Kucho Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago When will the moment come that Dragan stops for a moment and thinks: “This purchase of SFC wasn’t the greatest deal I made, maybe the time has come to sell up and end this project”. 1
sfc4prem Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 32 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: They have been a disaster, anyone sticking up for them at all in this mess needs to have a long hard look at themselves. They are the reason we were relegated from the Premier League after a decade due to incompetent scouting. They are the reason we were relegated from the Premier League AGAIN on a record humiliation due to incompetent scouting and management. They are the reason we have now been EXPELLED from the playoffs and face a 2nd year in a lower league. We have gone through Ralph, Jones, Selles, Martin, Juric, Rusk, Still, Tonda. We have gone through Joe Shields, Wilcox, Bitcon, Spors as DoF's. All of this in, what, 4 years? They have destroyed every inch of what this club stood for and have tarnished us in ways I never felt was possible. Dragan and everyone associated need to pack up, get the fuck out, and never, ever, ever work in Football again. I would implore the fans of Valenciennes and Goztepe to also join in this, as these people cannot be allowed to continue in football. That's an impressive list. It feels like groundhog day. We've said this before, right? The fish rots from the head. Tenure - Jan 2022 - date (May 2026). 4 years. - 9th in PL to Championship playoff expulsion. - 8 managers. - 4 Directors of Football. - Over £200m spent on players. - Reputation tarnished.
skintsaint Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago Dragan either sells up or puts a football man at the head of Saints to sort it all out. Whats Levy upto these days...😅
Gloucester Saint Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Dr. Kucho said: When will the moment come that Dragan stops for a moment and thinks: “This purchase of SFC wasn’t the greatest deal I made, maybe the time has come to sell up and end this project”. Relegation from League 2.
CB Fry Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago Just an update. It is now May 2028 at the earliest before SR can reasonably say they have got us back to where we were when they found us. 1
S-Clarke Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago (edited) AI Gets it. Can we employ AI? -------------------------------------------- For a lot of Saints fans, this probably feels like the final receipt for the whole Sport Republic era. Not just: “They made one catastrophic mistake.” More like: relegation failed recruitment manager churn identity loss poor football decisions trust eroded fan disconnect now a governance scandal Wembley ripped away next season damaged before it starts At some point, you stop seeing individual bad events and start seeing a pattern. And that’s why “we’re sorry” won’t cut it. Because fans are not just angry about the punishment. They’re angry because the club has been drifting, mismanaged, and now humiliated. The fans argument is basically: The ownership have lost the moral authority to lead the reset. And I think that’s fair. Because the same ownership group that presided over the decline can’t just say: “Trust us to rebuild.” Why would fans trust them? The trust is gone. A credible reset probably needs: Sport Republic to sell or bring in major new control board-level departures football operations rebuilt clear leadership structure new manager/head coach with authority fan reimbursement and compensation transparent investigation proper apology with consequences Not a rebrand. Not a “new chapter” video with emotional piano music. Actual structural change. Because if they stay, and just shuffle a few names around, supporters will see it as the same machine that broke the club asking for another chance to fix it. And after this? That’s a hell of an ask. Edited 18 hours ago by S-Clarke
SNSUN Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 7 minutes ago, CB Fry said: Just an update. It is now May 2028 at the earliest before SR can reasonably say they have got us back to where we were when they found us. And that is probably a best case scenario. I rather hope they're not fucking here by then though.
franniesTache Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago We are so much more badly fucked than what people know, if what i've heard this evening is right i'm half tempted to put money on us being relegated next season. This will 100% not be the same team next season and the club is in a far worse mess than anyone on here thinks. 1
Maggie May Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago All I will say is we hired Nathan Jones a week after Villa hired Unai Emery. That sums up the past five years for me. 3
coalman Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago When you change managers and your leadership team so often there should be no surprise when you have no corporate governance.
AlexLaw76 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 7 hours ago, CB Fry said: Just an update. It is now May 2028 at the earliest before SR can reasonably say they have got us back to where we were when they found us. GrEaTEsT ErA iN oUr HisToRy 2
StrangelyBrown Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago -4 points in the championship from mid table in the premier league. This is what we have achieved. Coming soon, Rasmus' new ted talk: If it isn't broke, break it.... then fuck it up and turn it into a collosal pile of shite
AlexLaw76 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago (edited) They churn through Mangers' Directors of Football, Coaches and now the leagues. Where is the floor with this lot? League 1????? Edited 11 hours ago by AlexLaw76
Sheaf Saint Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 6 hours ago, HarvSFC said: Time to go. Any chance we could get the guys at Lead By Donkeys to project this all over the front of SMS?
Willo of Whiteley Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 7 hours ago, CB Fry said: Just an update. It is now May 2028 at the earliest before SR can reasonably say they have got us back to where we were when they found us. It’ll be nearly seven years into their ten year plan, whatever that was.
Sheaf Saint Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 6 hours ago, franniesTache said: We are so much more badly fucked than what people know, if what i've heard this evening is right i'm half tempted to put money on us being relegated next season. This will 100% not be the same team next season and the club is in a far worse mess than anyone on here thinks. Care to elaborate?
AlexLaw76 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 6 hours ago, franniesTache said: We are so much more badly fucked than what people know, if what i've heard this evening is right i'm half tempted to put money on us being relegated next season. This will 100% not be the same team next season and the club is in a far worse mess than anyone on here thinks. Yeah, sure I read a finance piece that we need to sell a fair wedge (for a 2nd season parachute payment team) just to stand still
Willo of Whiteley Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago There are other Scienza’s out there, ones that stay on their feet. I think Jander will go back to Germany and we’ll probably get £10-15m for Charles. That’ll balance the books straight away. It’s not the exodus I’m bothered about, we can’t affect that now, it’s who we bring in. Who will want to sign if you have a lowly regarded manager or one that’s openly cheated?
Miltonaggro Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago One other clear motif of the Sport Republic era is their dithering, procrastination and time wasting. Lack of leadership resulting in lack of urgency has always been clear. With this latest avoidable mother of all shitstorms they have to act decisively and fast, no excuses, no safety blanket of bullshit and lies. I have little faith.
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