Russell Martin

[S-Clarke]

2 minutes ago, Colinjb said:

It's seeing this that makes me further wonder how that championship season would have gone with someone competent in charge.

I think we'd have won the league, or at least pushed Leicester really, really hard. It was a tough season with 4 run aways, but we were the 4th placed team when we really shouldn't have been if we're honest.

I only ever saw us as a playoff side, we were never truly in that auto race - always on the fringes, which was pretty frustrating. The last min wins against Millwall, Watford, Birmingham etc really papered over some cracks - they were great and all, but we did struggle in most games we played I always felt. We were never comfortable.

Out of 46 games, I only really remember Sheffield Wednesday, Swansea, Blackburn and Preston as being comfortable wins. The rest were utter slogs.

[Toussaint]

They need to be brave and trust the process. 
 

I wonder how many busses have engines at the ready in preparation for multiple players being thrown under them?

[Thereisonlyonemickychannon]

Watching Saints under Martin was like painting the Forth Bridge with a toothbrush. Incredibly boring and bloody pointless

[Saint_clark]

1 minute ago, Toussaint said:

They need to be brave and trust the process. 
 

I wonder how many busses have engines at the ready in preparation for multiple players being thrown under them?

Meghoma seems to have gone off script already, very direct and putting balls in from deep. Not long before a player's revolt.

[Osvaldorama]

Hahahahahaha. I remember many being slated for saying how bad he was. 
 

Well, well, well. He clearly pulled the wool over a lot of people’s eyes.
Sadly, it also shows how inept SR are that they fell for this charlatan 

[Gloucester Saint]

This is how you do deal with a shit manager and underperforming board, not just forcing your board’s hand but breaking it https://www.glasgowworld.com/sport/football/rangers/rangers-fans-leave-ibrox-20-mins-club-brugge-battering-embarrassing-5279768

Watch and learn Saints fans. We used to have some guts in us as well….

Edited Tuesday at 19:49 by Gloucester Saint

[Saint_clark]

1 minute ago, Osvaldorama said:

Hahahahahaha. I remember many being slated for saying how bad he was. 
 

Well, well, well. He clearly pulled the wool over a lot of people’s eyes.
Sadly, it also shows how inept SR are that they fell for this charlatan 

Blokes an absolute fraud. I honestly don't know what he's saying/doing to get his defence playing so badly.

[Toussaint]

2 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

Meghoma seems to have gone off script already, very direct and putting balls in from deep. Not long before a player's revolt.

Or you never see Meghoma again. Or he goes to a Russell realignment camp.

 

It struck me last night watching Charlie for Everton, getting stuck into contests and driving forward at every opportunity, Martin couldn’t wait to get him out the door. 

[Saint_clark]

It's also pretty funny that Martin is trying to join the Pepball revolution just as the rest of football seems to be moving on from it. 

[hypochondriac]

Please don't sack him rangers. At least let him get tonked by celtic first. 

[hypochondriac]

2 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

Or you never see Meghoma again. Or he goes to a Russell realignment camp.

 

It struck me last night watching Charlie for Everton, getting stuck into contests and driving forward at every opportunity, Martin couldn’t wait to get him out the door. 

Losing Alcaraz was a travesty. Martin was a prick for how he treated him. 

[Golac's Cunning Stunts]

the rangers forum is a delight to read, not because i have anything against Rangers, just that everything i though about Martin is proving correct

[trousers]

25 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

I don't think you were alone. I found it a really weird season, In fact I'm still really conflicted by it as we finished on 87 points and got promoted, but it never felt right. Something always felt off.

I'd have been accepting of us swapping out in the summer we got promoted, but we were never going to do that.

The unbeaten run was triumphant though...

(Yes, I know... I'm sure I'll let it go one of these days... 😁)

[Toussaint]

Just now, hypochondriac said:

Please don't sack him rangers. At least let him get tonked by celtic first. 

I’m hoping for an absolute humiliation, Leicester style, just so the scales can finally be lifted from the cultists eyes.

[Saint_clark]

The rangers goalkeeping coach doing the halftime punditry (not sure that's a good idea) just laughed at a joke at Martin's expense. 

[Gloucester Saint]

Just now, hypochondriac said:

Losing Alcaraz was a travesty. Martin was a prick for how he treated him. 

A good player that liked the club and the area. 

[Graffito]

First time I’ve seen them under Martín. Blimey, what a shambles. Looks of total bewilderment on the faces of players and fans alike. Short of a miracle he’s a goner surely. 

[Saint_clark]

Wow didn't see the first goal, what the FUCK was the defender doing 😂😂😂

[Colinjb]

Just now, Saint_clark said:

Wow didn't see the first goal, what the FUCK was the defender doing 😂😂😂

And the Keeper, he could just as easily ran out and cleared. Total indecision....... shit coaching and management.

[AlexLaw76]

He is of course the focus of discussion on the Rangers forum...

Quote

Right, but digging deeper into that one season: they conceded 19 goals in their first 8 games, which included a 5-0 and a 4-1 defeat. Things did significantly stabilise temporary after that - 7 in their next 8, 3 in the 8 after that, 9 in the 8 after that. We might expect to see that also in the next few months.

The worrying thing is that, after an excellent run mid-season, they reverted to type. They conceded 25 goals in their remaining 14 games, including another 5-0 defeat, and despite their 25-game undefeated run prior, they ended up missing out on promotion.

Overall, their first clean sheet came in October, and they had 11 clean sheets, which was about 10th best. Compared to the other promoted sides, they conceded 22 more than Leicester and 6 more than Ipswich. Compared to the teams around them, they conceded 20 more than Leeds, and 16 more than Norwich, and two less than Birmingham, who were relegated that year, albeit by a point.

Their results against the other top sides are also worrying. They were soundly beaten 5-0 and 4-1 by Leicester and also lost both games to Ipswich. They did beat Leeds every time, which may well have had an impact on him getting the job.

If there's going to be a chance it all comes together, he needs to make sure this Rangers side are more defensively solid than the previous teams he's managed. There's a real risk that otherwise we will get a few doing's, in Europe and against them.

 

[trousers]

29 minutes ago, jamesfp1 said:

He'll be gone after this no doubt 

 

28 minutes ago, Colinjb said:

Oh please let him at least have the Old Firm derby........

Yep, I'm praying for a mini comeback... Reduce the score to 3-2 and the derby humiliation will still be on! 😉

[Saint_clark]

I enjoyed the thousands of synchronised clapping to hands on heads behind the goal for the second. 

[Saint_clark]

Just now, trousers said:

 

Yep, I'm praying for a mini comeback... Reduce the score to 3-2 and the derby humiliation will still be on! 😉

Nah, you know what it'll be if that happens. "We won the last 70 minutes of the game 2-0".

[Toussaint]

2 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

Wow didn't see the first goal, what the FUCK was the defender doing 😂😂😂

Being brave?

[SambaMaverick]

3 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

The rangers goalkeeping coach doing the halftime punditry (not sure that's a good idea) just laughed at a joke at Martin's expense. 

Bit like when we had Ramsdale doing punditry when we got tonked against Spurs, it was an utter humiliation

[IOWSaintDaz]

Martin will be lucky to get out of Ibrox unscathed tonight if the score gets any worse.....he'll just have to be brave, its just a big slice of deja vu 

[Turkish]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[RedArmy]

 

 

[Doctoroncall]

1 minute ago, Colinjb said:

And the Keeper, he could just as easily ran out and cleared. Total indecision....... shit coaching and management.

After you sir, no after you, no I insist…. Oh fuck!

[trousers]

24 minutes ago, Raging Bull said:

Paging the sympathiser's to the board, I repeat, calling all Martin munchers to the lolz board  

@Fabrice29 @gio1saints 

please can you fight the good fight 

Not forgetting @notnowcato and @Lighthouse of course...

[Sheaf Saint]

3 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

I enjoyed the thousands of synchronised clapping to hands on heads behind the goal for the second. 

[Turkish]

2 minutes ago, RedArmy said:

 

 

Trust the process 

[trousers]

2 minutes ago, Turkish said:

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Excuse the mental imagery but the missus has just shouted at me asking why I'm laughing out loud in the bath 😂

[Colinjb]

To those who say that this is childish bitterness and we, as mature adults should move on and in good grace turn the other cheek.

Fuck off, this is pure catharsis! I'm bloody loving it.

This isn't about you Rangers. Well, your board's terrible decision making maybe.

Edited Tuesday at 20:05 by Colinjb

[trousers]

19 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

This is how you do deal with a shit manager and underperforming board, not just forcing your board’s hand but breaking it https://www.glasgowworld.com/sport/football/rangers/rangers-fans-leave-ibrox-20-mins-club-brugge-battering-embarrassing-5279768

Watch and learn Saints fans. We used to have some guts in us as well….

In the words of @Matthew Le God... "Protests don't achieve anything"...

Edited Tuesday at 20:08 by trousers

[Saint_clark]

Half time the pundits saying "he'll make a few changes here to turn things round". I knew he wouldn't make a single one. Trust the process.

[skintsaint]

Good to see Rothwell in peak Martinball shape
 

[Stripey McStripe Shirt]

Do Pompey fans all still have Rangers as their second club?

[Turkish]

1 minute ago, skintsaint said:

Good to see Rothwell in peak Martinball shape
 

They look like a couple of ex pros in a charity game 

[Saint_clark]

Didn't realise it was Neil McCann doing the commentary. Strangely fond memories of that time.

[Stripey McStripe Shirt]

Ally McCoist now saying Rangers need to be brave.

[tdmickey3]

37 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

Don't think we'll be seeing the usual suspects trying to defend Martin tonight somehow!

Fabrice must be beside himself with sadness

[Turkish]

1 minute ago, Stripey McStripe Shirt said:

Do Pompey fans all still have Rangers as their second club?

I think they used to arse lick rangers because one of the top 657 crew fella fancied himself as a orange man at one point 

Edited Tuesday at 20:10 by Turkish

[ecuk268]

[Stripey McStripe Shirt]

1 minute ago, Turkish said:

I think they used to arse link rangers because one of the top 657 crew fella fancied himself as a orange man at one point 

Am I supposed to read that in a strong Scottish accent?

[AlexLaw76]

It's ON!!!

[Saint_clark]

Great assist from Meghoma. Glad we got rid of him under *checks* Russell Martin.

[VectisSaint]

Rangers get one back

[Colinjb]

So, game on then. 

[trousers]

16 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

He is of course the focus of discussion on the Rangers forum...

"Right, but digging deeper into that one season: they conceded 19 goals in their first 8 games, which included a 5-0 and a 4-1 defeat. Things did significantly stabilise temporary after that - 7 in their next 8, 3 in the 8 after that, 9 in the 8 after that. We might expect to see that also in the next few months.

 

The worrying thing is that, after an excellent run mid-season, they reverted to type. They conceded 25 goals in their remaining 14 games, including another 5-0 defeat, and despite their 25-game undefeated run prior, they ended up missing out on promotion.

 

Overall, their first clean sheet came in October, and they had 11 clean sheets, which was about 10th best. Compared to the other promoted sides, they conceded 22 more than Leicester and 6 more than Ipswich. Compared to the teams around them, they conceded 20 more than Leeds, and 16 more than Norwich, and two less than Birmingham, who were relegated that year, albeit by a point.

 

Their results against the other top sides are also worrying. They were soundly beaten 5-0 and 4-1 by Leicester and also lost both games to Ipswich. They did beat Leeds every time, which may well have had an impact on him getting the job.

 

If there's going to be a chance it all comes together, he needs to make sure this Rangers side are more defensively solid than the previous teams he's managed. There's a real risk that otherwise we will get a few doing's, in Europe and against them."

 

Astute observations there from that Rangers fan. The only thing he missed is the reason we beat Leeds 3 times, and that was because we were coming off the back of a run of poor results each time, and it was the only time that Martin relaxed / parked his 'Russball' tactics for those games. 

 

Edited Tuesday at 20:14 by trousers