Russell Martin

[Badger]

1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said:
 

The fact is, Lego is a shit manager with good PR. Whereas Jones is a decent championship manager with shit PR. 

Lego is smarm and bullshit for PR as manager. Jones is seen as aggravating, he was wrong manager at wrong time. Lego as now proving is wrong manager any time. 

[aintforever]

Surely he can’t survive losing 4-0 at home to Oxford, this has to be curtains for him as a manager. Amazingly he has managed just three league wins since the play-off victory over Leeds.

I don’t get the hate for him though, he got us promoted which is more than the current lot have achieved.

[Weston Super Saint]

10 minutes ago, aintforever said:

Surely he can’t survive losing 4-0 at home to Oxford, this has to be curtains for him as a manager. Amazingly he has managed just three league wins since the play-off victory over Leeds.

I don’t get the hate for him though, he got us promoted which is more than the current lot have achieved.

I think we've all moved on from "hate".

We now enjoy watching his inevitable downfall. 

[egg]

10 minutes ago, aintforever said:

Surely he can’t survive losing 4-0 at home to Oxford, this has to be curtains for him as a manager. Amazingly he has managed just three league wins since the play-off victory over Leeds.

I don’t get the hate for him though, he got us promoted which is more than the current lot have achieved.

Agreed. I'm surprised Leicester gave him a chance tbh, but that must be his last hurrah. He's probably going to retire minted at 40. 

[Turkish]

11 minutes ago, egg said:

Agreed. I'm surprised Leicester gave him a chance tbh, but that must be his last hurrah. He's probably going to retire minted at 40. 

Probably end up as a pundit telling us what all the other managers are doing wrong 

[so22saint]

11 minutes ago, egg said:

Agreed. I'm surprised Leicester gave him a chance tbh, but that must be his last hurrah. He's probably going to retire minted at 40. 

yeah, but he'll have an ugly wife... oh 🤣

[aintforever]

12 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

I think we've all moved on from "hate".

We now enjoy watching his inevitable downfall. 

It’s hilarious watching Leicester go into meltdown but after this wish him well, I doubt he will get another chance though. The Leeds play-off win was one of my greatest days out as a Saints fan and Martin was part of making that happen.

[Oh no Mick Mills]

54 minutes ago, Badger said:

Lego is smarm and bullshit for PR as manager. Jones is seen as aggravating, he was wrong manager at wrong time. Lego as now proving is wrong manager any time. 

Apart from our longest ever unbeaten run in the club's history and promotion to the Prem....apart from that yeah , he's been poor. 

[Colinjb]

13 minutes ago, Oh no Mick Mills said:

Apart from our longest ever unbeaten run in the club's history and promotion to the Prem....apart from that yeah , he's been poor. 

Ah that old chestnut.

Imagine what that squad could have done with someone who's subsequent record wasn't three wins in at three different clubs.

[St. Ciervo]

8 hours ago, Midfield_General said:

Fair points but also worth noting that since he’s been at Leicester he has brought in 14 new players there too - 10 perms and 4 loans. 

They haven’t got a pot to piss in so they aren’t big money signings but he knew going in what their financial situation was so he can’t blame that. 

He’s doing what he always does - coaching into them the only system he knows, regardless of whether it works, is right for the game in front of him or suits the players at his disposal. Then trying to shrug off responsibility when it goes horribly, horribly wrong yet again. 

Personally I hope he keeps getting jobs and keeps doing it, because it’s fucking hilarious.

If he can drag enough teams down, surely that means we will rise to the top!

[aintforever]

36 minutes ago, Colinjb said:

Ah that old chestnut.

Imagine what that squad could have done with someone who's subsequent record wasn't three wins in at three different clubs.

Yeah, last season went so well.

[Oh no Mick Mills]

50 minutes ago, Colinjb said:

Ah that old chestnut.

Imagine what that squad could have done with someone who's subsequent record wasn't three wins in at three different clubs.

What more could have another manager done with that squad? 

Well I guess get us promoted like he did..not alot else to achieve really ...maybe as runaway champions would have been nice 

We were always back going down with a whimper regardless of the manager .

PSR and Sports Republics ineptitude in transfer dealing gave us no chance of survival.

I'm not Martin fanboy thats for sure but it doesn't mean that I can't recognise the success we had under him and having a memorable season of taking my kid and him actually seeing a Saints team win regularly for a change in high scoring games...happy weekends are not to be sniffed at. 

 

 

[gallaghert366@yahoo.com]

8 minutes ago, Oh no Mick Mills said:

What more could have another manager done with that squad? 

Well I guess get us promoted like he did..not alot else to achieve really ...maybe as runaway champions would have been nice 

We were always back going down with a whimper regardless of the manager .

PSR and Sports Republics ineptitude in transfer dealing gave us no chance of survival.

I'm not Martin fanboy thats for sure but it doesn't mean that I can't recognise the success we had under him and having a memorable season of taking my kid and him actually seeing a Saints team win regularly for a change in high scoring games...happy weekends are not to be sniffed at. 

 

 

What a, seemingly, sad life you've had so far.

Edited 1 hour ago by gallaghert366@yahoo.com

[Colinjb]

6 minutes ago, Oh no Mick Mills said:

We were always back going down with a whimper regardless of the manager .

Now, that is highly open to debate.

[Mboto Gorge]

From pre season 2024/25;

 

Southampton manager Russell Martin is hoping to "surprise some people" this season as he prepares to take charge of a top-flight side for the first time in his career.

The former Norwich defender led the Saints into the Premier League through the Championship play-offs back in May.

Now he is ready to test his football philosophy against the best sides in English football.

"It is illogical to me that we would get to the Premier League and, through fear or lack of belief, we would then do something else," Martin told BBC Sport.

"There are going to be games when we play against amazing opposition and maybe look a bit different, but we won't go away to Manchester City or Liverpool and set up to camp. We just won't do it.

"We have to accept sometimes we will get beaten, but then at other times we will have beautiful moments, games and results that people don't expect. 

"Maybe we will surprise some people."

Southampton open up against Newcastle United at St James' Park on Saturday, 17 August.

 

As the famous Gordon Ramsey phrase goes “you do surprise me yes, you surprise me by how shit you are!”

[Oh no Mick Mills]

3 minutes ago, Colinjb said:

Now, that is highly open to debate.

Fair enough, but Juric made zero difference and imo I really can't see how that squad would have gotten the additional 27 points ontop of our 12 to get 4th bottom

[Colinjb]

17 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said:

From pre season 2024/25;

"It is illogical to me that we would get to the Premier League and, through fear or lack of belief, we would then do something else,"

Yet, he got through the play-offs by doing something different.

[AlexLaw76]

1 hour ago, Oh no Mick Mills said:

Apart from our longest ever unbeaten run in the club's history and promotion to the Prem....apart from that yeah , he's been poor. 

who cares that we drew a fair few games amongst some wins. During that 'magical' unbeaten run, we gained roughly ZERO points on the top 2 at the time. 

[AlexLaw76]

32 minutes ago, Oh no Mick Mills said:

What more could have another manager done with that squad? 

 

 

 

Oh I don't know. Made us partially competitive during the first few months of the season. Kind of like what Hull are doing now

[Katalinic]

9 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Oh I don't know. Made us partially competitive during the first few months of the season. Kind of like what Hull are doing now

They've signed 18 players, which is what we should have done, the "Nottingham Forest and Sunderland approach". Martin's arrogance on playing the same way was ridiculous, but that squad was never good enough to stay up.

[AlexLaw76]

1 minute ago, Katalinic said:

They've signed 18 players, which is what we should have done, the "Nottingham Forest and Sunderland approach". Martin's arrogance on playing the same way was ridiculous, but that squad was never good enough to stay up.

I Agree we never had a squad good enough to stay up, but to be relegated by Halloween and totally embarrassing ourselves on the way....come on

[Katalinic]

11 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

I Agree we never had a squad good enough to stay up, but to be relegated by Halloween and totally embarrassing ourselves on the way....come on

I agree with that, embarrassing. 

[Badger]

2 hours ago, Oh no Mick Mills said:

Apart from our longest ever unbeaten run in the club's history and promotion to the Prem....apart from that yeah , he's been poor. 

You can’t take this away from him, although there were still a few mind numbing performances in there.
 

The play off SF and Final were memorable, credit where it’s due. But the way it’s gone since you expect this might be the pinnacle of his managerial career. 
 

I remember someone saying RM would have a more successful career than Danny Rohl. Mmm 🤔 wonder if they’d like to review that 

[Bobbyboy]

So hang on is this the new "Pompey Takeover Saga" thread where it's basically a place for relief and therapy, knowing at least someone in the world is worse off than us?