saintant Posted September 24 Posted September 24 2 minutes ago, RedArmy said: The transfer that he’s clearly wanted since Martin left. So why not play well in every game? Surely that gives him more chance of attracting interest than playing well in the odd game of his choosing.
saintwbu Posted September 24 Posted September 24 32 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: And sideways & backwards Downes doesn’t? Incredibly harsh on Charles who had done ok this season, to be left out for a bloke who has only turned up in one game. People are forgetting quite how bad Downes has been before yesterday. Downes wasn’t playing in by far our worst performance of the season last Saturday, but Charles was. All season last time round in the Championship people were saying how great Charles was but the results when he played weren’t a coincidence. If he could sit behind two attacking CM’s and just do the dirty work he’d probably be decent, but he is not quick enough up top to play in this team yet imo.
AlexLaw76 Posted September 24 Posted September 24 Let's see who performs against a low block at the weekend.
Zorba Posted September 24 Posted September 24 35 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Let's see who performs against a low block at the weekend. 🤮 1
Osvaldorama Posted September 24 Posted September 24 Thought he was much improved and very good last night. Fair play
Lord Duckhunter Posted September 24 Posted September 24 3 hours ago, saintant said: So why not play well in every game? Surely that gives him more chance of attracting interest than playing well in the odd game of his choosing. Players have to put it in during certain games, otherwise they’ll get done 6 or 7. How did we draw with Manchester City, by playing as well as we did every other week 😂😂. You don’t half come out with some old pony. We lost 9-0 to Leicester, then put in a decent performance at City. It’s well known, players up their game on big occasions, it’s why we have cup shocks. If you think Downes put as much effort in during other games this season, you’re deluded. 1 2
saintant Posted September 24 Posted September 24 18 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Players have to put it in during certain games, otherwise they’ll get done 6 or 7. How did we draw with Manchester City, by playing as well as we did every other week 😂😂. You don’t half come out with some old pony. We lost 9-0 to Leicester, then put in a decent performance at City. It’s well known, players up their game on big occasions, it’s why we have cup shocks. If you think Downes put as much effort in during other games this season, you’re deluded. Pony is your middle name 🙂 2
benali-shorts Posted October 21 Posted October 21 Odd that he has had such limited involvement? He's obviously a bit of a cunt, but asking a lot of Jander and Charles to play so much football. 1
benjii Posted October 21 Posted October 21 Just now, benali-shorts said: Odd that he has had such limited involvement? He's obviously a bit of a cunt, but asking a lot of Jander and Charles to play so much football. Maybe he could slot in as a 4th CB? 1
S-Clarke Posted October 21 Posted October 21 2 minutes ago, benali-shorts said: Odd that he has had such limited involvement? He's obviously a bit of a cunt, but asking a lot of Jander and Charles to play so much football. Should have sold him in the summer really, we don't need his type. We need a powerful CM who can come in and disrupt things, not another sideways man. Jander/Charles can do his role - we need power alongside those. 1
OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint Posted Thursday at 12:22 Posted Thursday at 12:22 On 21/10/2025 at 22:34, S-Clarke said: Should have sold him in the summer really, we don't need his type. We need a powerful CM who can come in and disrupt things, not another sideways man. Jander/Charles can do his role - we need power alongside those. I have only dredged this thread up because I am curious at to what is really happening with this lad. Last time in the Championship, he was one of, if not the stand out players. Can't believe he's in a huff just because his old manager friend is no longer with us. With Charles injured, surely we can bring this guy back in to the fold. He is a sideways man but that's a frame of mind which can be changed and he got himself around the pitch a lot before.
disconnect Posted Thursday at 14:22 Posted Thursday at 14:22 1 hour ago, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said: I have only dredged this thread up because I am curious at to what is really happening with this lad. Last time in the Championship, he was one of, if not the stand out players. Can't believe he's in a huff just because his old manager friend is no longer with us. With Charles injured, surely we can bring this guy back in to the fold. He is a sideways man but that's a frame of mind which can be changed and he got himself around the pitch a lot before. He's a good player when he wants to be (i.e. when his mate is constantly bigging him up), but is quite clearly disruptive in the dressing room. Wouldn't matter so much if he played to the best of his abilities and starting dominating the midfield, but we haven't seen that for a long time. I expect he will play against Preston, but needs to have a bit of a think about what he wants doing with his career and actually put some effort in, work in a team environment and play to win matches of football. 3
skintsaint Posted Thursday at 14:27 Posted Thursday at 14:27 5 minutes ago, disconnect said: I expect he will play against Preston Sounds like he will be missing as a knock to the knee. 1
S-Clarke Posted Thursday at 15:07 Posted Thursday at 15:07 Of course he's not ill now, but he's got a knock to the knee. Honestly can we just sack this guy off.
Sir Ralph Posted Thursday at 15:10 Posted Thursday at 15:10 2 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Of course he's not ill now, but he's got a knock to the knee. Honestly can we just sack this guy off. From what I can deduce he may not be the most mentally stable player which explains a lot about his absences for unusual reasons 1
Dman Posted Thursday at 15:39 Posted Thursday at 15:39 30 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Of course he's not ill now, but he's got a knock to the knee. Honestly can we just sack this guy off. We have to find a buyer. We paid a decent whack for him which means we're going to have to lose a decent whack on him. 1
OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint Posted Thursday at 15:54 Posted Thursday at 15:54 38 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said: From what I can deduce he may not be the most mentally stable player which explains a lot about his absences for unusual reasons This makes a lot of sense. Some players need more closely 'managing' than others and similarly there will be those where everything's like water off a duck's back and others that get affected by criticism and need bigging up. Of course, it could also be that he's a disruptive influence and wants out.
Toussaint Posted Thursday at 15:54 Posted Thursday at 15:54 43 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said: From what I can deduce he may not be the most mentally stable player which explains a lot about his absences for unusual reasons When you say "deduce" do you mean a conclusion you have come to or something you have heard?
Willo of Whiteley Posted Thursday at 15:54 Posted Thursday at 15:54 Should’ve been sold in the summer. Or frozen out. Good player on his day but he clearly doesn’t want to be here 2
Give it to Ron Posted Thursday at 16:37 Posted Thursday at 16:37 When teams are going well and flying not many want to miss games and play through niggles. When teams are down the lower end and need to battle some look for any excusE not to play - seen that every level I have played no different at Saints. 2
egg Posted Thursday at 16:49 Posted Thursday at 16:49 1 hour ago, Sir Ralph said: From what I can deduce he may not be the most mentally stable player which explains a lot about his absences for unusual reasons Is that something you've been told, or concluded?
Harry_SFC Posted Thursday at 17:27 Posted Thursday at 17:27 2 hours ago, Sir Ralph said: From what I can deduce he may not be the most mentally stable player which explains a lot about his absences for unusual reasons You've got to have a problem if you're shouting "irons" at a Southampton promotion party. 7
West end Saints Posted Thursday at 17:42 Posted Thursday at 17:42 13 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said: You've got to have a problem if you're shouting "irons" at a Southampton promotion party. When Fernandes, JWP and KWP manage to relegate west ham ,he maybe a decent championship player for them 3
Toussaint Posted Thursday at 18:19 Posted Thursday at 18:19 52 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said: You've got to have a problem if you're shouting "irons" at a Southampton promotion party. Did he actually do that? 1
sfc4prem Posted Thursday at 18:37 Posted Thursday at 18:37 17 minutes ago, Toussaint said: Did he actually do that? Straight into the microphone that Adam Blackmore was holding, right infront of the crowd 4
Gloucester Saint Posted Thursday at 18:39 Posted Thursday at 18:39 1 minute ago, sfc4prem said: Straight into the microphone that Adam Blackmore was holding, right infront of the crowd Stephens responded with ‘Fuck West Ham’. For £18m, I think they rather fucked us.
Gloucester Saint Posted Thursday at 18:40 Posted Thursday at 18:40 (edited) 59 minutes ago, West end Saints said: When Fernandes, JWP and KWP manage to relegate west ham ,he maybe a decent championship player for them Nuno would have to select JWP first. More frozen out than Farm Foods. https://westhamworld.co.uk/west-ham-nuno-espirito-santo-james-ward-prowse-transfer/ Edited Thursday at 18:41 by Gloucester Saint Link added
sfc4prem Posted Thursday at 18:43 Posted Thursday at 18:43 115k per week? West Ham must be fucked up financially. If they get relegated and don't bounce back...
Toussaint Posted Thursday at 18:51 Posted Thursday at 18:51 12 minutes ago, sfc4prem said: Straight into the microphone that Adam Blackmore was holding, right infront of the crowd That should have been the end of him, right there. He was on loan at the time as well, I never understood why we went back for him and Fraser, neither were up to premier league standard, Fraser was, but he’d had his day. 2
Oh no Mick Mills Posted Thursday at 18:57 Posted Thursday at 18:57 14 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said: Stephens responded with ‘Fuck West Ham’. For £18m, I think they rather fucked us. To be fair to him he was absolutely vital to us in the Championship last time around. We rarely played well when he wasn't playing and the saying sprung up " No Flynn , no win" Stephens was the usual scapegoat but if you actually look back at alot of the defeats or crappy draws it was when Downes was not in the side. 5
Lighthouse Posted Thursday at 19:03 Posted Thursday at 19:03 8 minutes ago, Toussaint said: That should have been the end of him, right there. He was on loan at the time as well, I never understood why we went back for him and Fraser, neither were up to premier league standard, Fraser was, but he’d had his day. Good grief, get over yourself. Blackmore was winding him up in front of the crowd, who were singing, "sign him up!" He shouted ‘irons!’ Once into the mic and then laughed when everyone booed him. It was a light-hearted moment when a journalist put him on the spot on stage. Nothing more. 8 1
Toussaint Posted Thursday at 20:10 Posted Thursday at 20:10 1 hour ago, Lighthouse said: Good grief, get over yourself. Blackmore was winding him up in front of the crowd, who were singing, "sign him up!" He shouted ‘irons!’ Once into the mic and then laughed when everyone booed him. It was a light-hearted moment when a journalist put him on the spot on stage. Nothing more. Good grief, get over yourself. The only information I had on the subject was the response to my question above, irrespective of which, we should not have signed him for the premier league campaign in my opinion.
Harry_SFC Posted Thursday at 20:37 Posted Thursday at 20:37 1 hour ago, Lighthouse said: Good grief, get over yourself. Blackmore was winding him up in front of the crowd, who were singing, "sign him up!" He shouted ‘irons!’ Once into the mic and then laughed when everyone booed him. It was a light-hearted moment when a journalist put him on the spot on stage. Nothing more. It was more awkward than light hearted to be honest. 2
sfc4prem Posted Thursday at 21:02 Posted Thursday at 21:02 1 hour ago, Lighthouse said: Good grief, get over yourself. Blackmore was winding him up in front of the crowd, who were singing, "sign him up!" He shouted ‘irons!’ Once into the mic and then laughed when everyone booed him. It was a light-hearted moment when a journalist put him on the spot on stage. Nothing more. Were you there in the crowd? I was, and it felt pretty awkward to me. 2
St. Ciervo Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago There is no way he wants to be here. Sure you can excuse any one of these "illnesses", "niggles," and comments on their own. But it becomes staggering when you lay it all out. I cheered for him 2 years ago, but he is now the symbol of our deterioration and undoubtably brings our club down. Be gone! 3
skintsaint Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago Heres hoping he gets his move to Ipswich (as no PL team will take him now).......Not sure mamy other championship teams could afford the wages.
Wade Garrett Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago He’s a complete cunt. Hope he’s on statutory sick pay. 2
ally_uk Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago Can't stand him never rated, Sell and bring in a Romeu type destroyer
Gloucester Saint Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 45 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: He’s a complete cunt. Hope he’s on statutory sick pay. One of these days Wade, you will tell us what you really think 😂 1 5
saintant Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago He makes it very easy for me to suspect he is a bad apple that is rotting the rest of the group. I'd have got rid in the summer. 6
Lighthouse Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 16 hours ago, sfc4prem said: Were you there in the crowd? I was, and it felt pretty awkward to me. 17 hours ago, Harry_SFC said: It was more awkward than light hearted to be honest. So his comic timing and delivery weren’t to everyone’s taste in an interview he did 18 months ago. I don’t personally find that upsetting to the point that he should have been ‘finished with the club’ because of it.
sfc4prem Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 16 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: I don’t personally find that upsetting to the point that he should have been ‘finished with the club’ because of it. I don't, either. However, when added to the cauldron of his other lapses and flaws it stands to be fairly emblematic of his character. Raw chicken putting off his start to the season. Other instances of food poisoning. 'Rumours' of wanting to leave for Ipswich. Other instances of not being available for selection. Just strikes me as a little bit unreliable. 2
Paul_B Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 20 hours ago, sfc4prem said: Straight into the microphone that Adam Blackmore was holding, right infront of the crowd Did not know this. What a cunt! Should've been sacked on the spot! How fucking unprofessional! Stephens should have laid the nut on him! Prick!!
tdmickey3 Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 37 minutes ago, Paul_B said: Did not know this. What a cunt! Should've been sacked on the spot! How fucking unprofessional! Stephens should have laid the nut on him! Prick!! Stephens would have pulled his hair 2
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 3 hours ago, Convict Colony said: Poor guy has no idea that cow is trained in ninjitsu. It'll be days before his broken body is found, next to the calling card of some chewed grass. 1
Willo of Whiteley Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago As soon as someone comes out and says they don’t want to be here they should be frozen out. If they then don’t get a transfer and wish to play football again they should be made to make a grovelling public apology to the team and fans. 1
RedArmy Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 hours ago, Willo of Whiteley said: As soon as someone comes out and says they don’t want to be here they should be frozen out. If they then don’t get a transfer and wish to play football again they should be made to make a grovelling public apology to the team and fans. He’d be ill that day and get out of it.
Saint86 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 7 hours ago, Convict Colony said: Context/explanation required please convict. Normally i follow your posts with at least a wry smile, but i've had a few and this is totally lost on me...
Saint86 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 hours ago, Willo of Whiteley said: As soon as someone comes out and says they don’t want to be here they should be frozen out. If they then don’t get a transfer and wish to play football again they should be made to make a grovelling public apology to the team and fans. And yet Still is being lynched for dropping Aribo 😆
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