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I feel incredibly positive that's nonsense based on Parsons himself labelling the fee as "very high" last week.

I doubt there's a single person within the football club who'd consider anything less than £50m a viable fee.

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6 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said:

I feel incredibly positive that's nonsense based on Parsons himself labelling the fee as "very high" last week.

I doubt there's a single person within the football club who'd consider anything less than £50m a viable fee.

£45m & one of the “WP” brothers on loan would suffice. 

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1 minute ago, SuperSAINT said:

£45m & one of the “WP” brothers on loan would suffice. 

Yeah I wonder if that'll get revisited. I remember LeG saying he felt confident he would come back if we stayed up last year. 

The wages would have to be heavily subsided and it felt like Potter quite liked him, so I find it somewhat unlikely.

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20 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

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Mateus in claret? Nah everyone knows Mateus is a Rosé. 

And that's the best joke you'll get from me today. My apologies.

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If Wet Spam’s bid of £30m is true (it’s probably agent or media speculation), you have to say it’s highly deluded. I feel sure it will take at least £50-60m to prise him away at this late stage in the window and given the length of his contract. It could mean the difference between promotion or not if his quality is not replaced, so there’s a huge amount riding on getting it right.

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1 minute ago, HarvSFC said:

Yeah, they don't get Fernandes at the same price they signed Ward-Prowse for.

Ward Prowse was to cheap IMO.

Don`t be to surprised if we do the same again

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Posted (edited)
45 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

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£30m is laughably low for a player of his quality with 4 years left on his contract. Relegation didn't stop us getting £58m for Romeo Lavia or £40m for Liveramento.

 

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Just to put emphasis on the numbers in this tweet, Everton are expected to pay £50m next summer for a 31 year old Jack Grealish.

Yet, £45m was too much for Dibling. 

 

 

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Posted
45 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

How much for the other leg? 

More to the point Graham Potter must be seething this has alerted other clubs to Fernandes. 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, Saint NL said:

Just to put emphasis on the numbers in this tweet, Everton are expected to pay £50m next summer for a 31 year old Jack Grealish.

Yet, £45m was too much for Dibling. 

 

 

Lol that's a 'yeah sure, we'll agree to the buy clause because we've got no intention of ever activating it' if ever I've seen one

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25 minutes ago, CSA96 said:

Lol that's a 'yeah sure, we'll agree to the buy clause because we've got no intention of ever activating it' if ever I've seen one

I refer you to exhibit A: Charlie Alcaraz loan to Juventus with a £40m odd option to buy clause a couple of years ago

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I find it revealing that Everton are going to rent Grealish for a year instead of buying Tyler ( or any other decent attacking player) for £45m or so.
 

30 yr old Grealish going to cost c £15/16m in wages and fees this season and, given his tendency to get kicked a lot & be injured it might end up costing them close to £1m per every 90 minutes he finishes.With a laughable £50M buy option at the end?
 

And they reckon thats a better option than £45m 21year Tyler Dibling  amortised over 4 years?

I think it’s desperate a mid to lower table club renting him as he is certainly NOT one for the future, he’s not going to win them the league or get them into the CL or even top half. Weird decision imo. Everton need rebuild a proper team -but around him? 
 

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Saint NL said:

Just to put emphasis on the numbers in this tweet, Everton are expected to pay £50m next summer for a 31 year old Jack Grealish.

Yet, £45m was too much for Dibling. 

Grealish has won the Champions League, the Club World Cup, the FA Cup, the Premier League three times and has been capped by England 39 times. 

Tyler Dibling has played one on and off season in the premier league, scored two goals and been relegated.

Maybe that’s something to do with it? 

Dibling is all potential at this stage. Grealish is the finished article and at 29 is in his prime, especially for the way he plays which doesn’t rely on pace. 

Not that it matters, as they’ll never activate that clause. 

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1 hour ago, Saint NL said:

Just to put emphasis on the numbers in this tweet, Everton are expected to pay £50m next summer for a 31 year old Jack Grealish.

Yet, £45m was too much for Dibling. 

 

 

Who cares ? Surely this is good news for us ?  Doesn’t seem to be any of rumours regarding dibling . If we somehow grow the balls to keep him here this season we might even be able to get him to sign for longer if we get back to the premier league .I just hope we don’t do any more of these silly loan deals ourself with our bigger players like we did with ramsdale or alcaraz last year 

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1 hour ago, revolution saint said:

Maybe we are selling his hair for 30M?  That seems overpriced to me.  I mean, it's good, but it's not Stuart Armstrong level hair.

What price Smallbone ? 

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I'm actually more inclined to want to see Dibling go. Yes, it is great to see academy products make it into the first team but I personally think Fernandes is the better player and if by selling Dibling it increases our chances of holding on to Fernandes then that's what I would prefer.

As it has been alluded to, Dibling is pretty much all potential at this stage which may or may not be fulfilled. He doesn't have many years left on his contract either and if we do not sell him now, the fee will only get smaller in a year if he isn't going to sign a new contract. Furthermore, aside from a couple of moments of class, he didn't blow us away with quality last season, especially the second half of the season. 

I'll await the "yes but he was in a shit team" comments which is a fair point but Fernandes was also in that shit team and put the performances in on a more consistent basis.

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1 hour ago, revolution saint said:

Maybe we are selling his hair for 30M?  That seems overpriced to me.  I mean, it's good, but it's not Stuart Armstrong level hair.

 

1 minute ago, Badger said:

What price Smallbone ? 

Price has gone up as he is no longer bald.

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I think it’s time for Dibling to spread his wings and head out into the big wide world as well

 

and for us to pocket 50m. But who will pay it?

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49 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

Grealish has won the Champions League, the Club World Cup, the FA Cup, the Premier League three times and has been capped by England 39 times. 

 

Grealish didn't win those awards; he was a member of teams that won them.

As Ryan Manning mentioned on Saturday, Will Still has been emphasizing to the squad that winning games of football is primarily about team effort and cohesion--not individual skill.

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2 minutes ago, Crouchie's Lawyer said:

I'm actually more inclined to want to see Dibling go. Yes, it is great to see academy products make it into the first team but I personally think Fernandes is the better player and if by selling Dibling it increases our chances of holding on to Fernandes then that's what I would prefer.

As it has been alluded to, Dibling is pretty much all potential at this stage which may or may not be fulfilled. He doesn't have many years left on his contract either and if we do not sell him now, the fee will only get smaller in a year if he isn't going to sign a new contract. Furthermore, aside from a couple of moments of class, he didn't blow us away with quality last season, especially the second half of the season. 

I'll await the "yes but he was in a shit team" comments which is a fair point but Fernandes was also in that shit team and put the performances in on a more consistent basis.

I can definitely see your point.  There's no guarantees on his progression and we won't get a higher fee (unless he does sign a new contract).  I don't really know how it affects our finances and whether it makes Fernandes more likely to go but it probably doesn't help, and it certainly won't help if we're looking at more expensive signings better aligned to Still and the type of team he wants to put together.  (And for clarification that doesn't mean I don't think Dibling couldn't play in a Will Still side).

Having said that, I like the kid and I do think there's something special about him.  I'd love to see him rip up the Championship and I think he could be exceptional.  I'll trust the club on this one.

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West Ham fans one of the more normal bunch upon reading their views after being linked to one of our players. With the exception of that Central WUM on Twitter of course.

Lots of understanding that the ball is in our court and we're quite famously good sellers in recent history. Obviously the few idiots who act like them walking away would be a devastating blow to us but largely less suspect than usual.

Their main guy Ex is stating that a bid has gone in this afternoon for Fernandes. I imagine we're hours away from an Ornstein rejection tweet. 

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25 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

He still looks like I wouldn’t serve him a pint for being underage though. 

Reflection of our age Gloucester, no reflection on Smallbone.

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43 minutes ago, Hamilton Saint said:

Grealish didn't win those awards; he was a member of teams that won them.

Good grief 🤦‍♂️. MLG - you’ve got competition. 

Yes, I’m aware of how team sports work, thank you. Saying a player has ‘won something’ is a fairly common shorthand for describing when they were playing in a team and that team won the competition in question. I wasn’t suggesting he entered those competitions as an individual. 

I’m surprised I need to spell that out, but ok. 

In Grealish’s case he was an integral part of one of the best club teams in modern history; he played in 50 games for City the season they won the treble, and started every Champions League knockout game. Dibling may well go on to be a great player but Grealish is the finished article. 

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1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said:

 

Price has gone up as he is no longer bald.

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That's nothing a season long loan in Turkey wouldn't fix

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34 minutes ago, Badger said:

Reflection of our age Gloucester, no reflection on Smallbone.

Some pints of Exmoor Beast would put some hairs on his chest as well as his head (too many he’d be in A&E with that stuff).

Dockside Dark must have some iron in as well?

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1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said:

 

Price has gone up as he is no longer bald.

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I think he might be the second coming...

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49 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

Good grief 🤦‍♂️. MLG - you’ve got competition. 

Yes, I’m aware of how team sports work, thank you. Saying a player has ‘won something’ is a fairly common shorthand for describing when they were playing in a team and that team won the competition in question. I wasn’t suggesting he entered those competitions as an individual. 

I’m surprised I need to spell that out, but ok. 

In Grealish’s case he was an integral part of one of the best club teams in modern history; he played in 50 games for City the season they won the treble, and started every Champions League knockout game. Dibling may well go on to be a great player but Grealish is the finished article. 

No need to get all worked up!

Everything you say is correct.

My point was simply to emphasise that some of these "fairly common shorthands" can be imprecise and imply things that may not be intended. In other words, if football IS primarily a team sport, let's not use language that suggests otherwise. Can we agree on that?

And as an old fart (and occasional "curmudgeon"), I find some of these modern "common shorthands" somewhat problematic.

I did not mean for you to take my comment as a personal affront. It's just my way--as a careful proofreader and text editor.

 

 

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1 hour ago, SNSUN said:

I think he might be the second coming...

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When I said he needed to bulk up, I didn't mean his hair.

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Just now, UpweySaint said:

He took being crucified by the fans too literally apparently. 

Unavailable for selection Easter Friday but should be back by the Monday.

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