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Sorry, that doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Edozie's stats in the Championship were 34 matches, 6 goals and 3 assists.  Rak-Sakyi's stats were 35 matches, 7 goals, 2 assists. That suggests keeping Edozie to me, although he has probably had enough of Saints now and wants out.

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Think we end up with Azaz and 2/3 loans to end the window. I do think we keep Fernandes now though.

Hopefully some good wide options come available late on. Esse, Roberts, Benson and perhaps Nelson (wages...) are the few that come to mind who might fit.

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1 hour ago, hypochondriac said:

Always the most likely choice. Perhaps him and Azaz and a winger on loan and that's it .

Or we get neither, and our "new" winger is Edozie and our "new" midfield dynamos are Aribo and Smallbone...I'd hate to think  that we're clinging on to players as we're having difficulties getting new players in.

 

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1 minute ago, egg said:

Or we get neither, and our "new" winger is Edozie and our "new" midfield dynamos are Aribo and Smallbone...I'd hate to think  that we're clinging on to players as we're having difficulties getting new players in.

 

Would suggest it’s the other way around - can’t bring in new players because we can’t shift the old ones. 

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Just now, ErwinK1961 said:

Would suggest it’s the other way around - can’t bring in new players because we can’t shift the old ones. 

There's that, but they may be hedging their bets. A dangerous game to play, but if the choice is Edozie or nobody new who's an upgrade, I'd take Edozie. 

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5 minutes ago, egg said:

There's that, but they may be hedging their bets. A dangerous game to play, but if the choice is Edozie or nobody new who's an upgrade, I'd take Edozie. 

It's not even that. If the choice is losing Edozie for a small amount and then signing this bloke who seems similar for a lot more then it seems a bit of a bad deal .

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1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

It's not even that. If the choice is losing Edozie for a small amount and then signing this bloke who seems similar for a lot more then it seems a bit of a bad deal .

Yep. Someone who didn't produce in a decent Sheffield United team doesn't excite me, and doesn't feel to be an upgrade on Edozie. He seems to be an older version of Sam Amo-Ameyaw. 

Let's see how the window plays out, but if we don't get a decent winger, I'd expect Edozie to be back in the fold. 

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Is SE remotely interested in staying? Will Still has given everyone a chance except him. Maybe he didn't want one and just wants out, after the way RM treated him that's not a great surprise..

 

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Just now, egg said:

Yep. Someone who didn't produce in a decent Sheffield United team doesn't excite me, and doesn't feel to be an upgrade on Edozie. He seems to be an older version of Sam Amo-Ameyaw. 

Let's see how the window plays out, but if we don't get a decent winger, I'd expect Edozie to be back in the fold. 

Yeah I'm with you on this. If that is how it ends though, with Edozie back in the fold because we couldn't find anyone better, it's a pretty shocking fail from this new recruitment setup it has to be said. Probably an even bigger fail of who went before, if that was possible.

I'm primed for the classic excuse ''We only add if they're better than we have, if they're not then we won't panic''.  That translates to we're shit at scouting or skint, or a mixture of both.

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52 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said:

Would you rather they sold cheap and bought big then ?

Bit of an odd hill to die on

I would rather the bought quality by spending what it takes rather than buy cheap crap

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1 minute ago, S-Clarke said:

Yeah I'm with you on this. If that is how it ends though, with Edozie back in the fold because we couldn't find anyone better, it's a pretty shocking fail from this new recruitment setup it has to be said. Probably an even bigger fail of who went before, if that was possible.

I'm primed for the classic excuse ''We only add if they're better than we have, if they're not then we won't panic''.  That translates to we're shit at scouting or skint, or a mixture of both.

Yep. And "he's excited to stay, and it's like having a new signing". Let's see, but my cynicism is kicking in the closer that window is to being slammed shut. 

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1 hour ago, Saint Scott said:

Rak-Sakyi, meh. Didn't really produce in a decent Sheffield Utd team last year.

Fellows would be my first choice

Yup, totally this for me.

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3 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Yeah I'm with you on this. If that is how it ends though, with Edozie back in the fold because we couldn't find anyone better, it's a pretty shocking fail from this new recruitment setup it has to be said. Probably an even bigger fail of who went before, if that was possible.

I'm primed for the classic excuse ''We only add if they're better than we have, if they're not then we won't panic''.  That translates to we're shit at scouting or skint, or a mixture of both.

I think Edozie was good last time in the Championship, especially before he got injured.

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Just now, egg said:

Yep. And "he's excited to stay, and it's like having a new signing". Let's see, but my cynicism is kicking in the closer that window is to being slammed shut. 

We've known we've needed better in attack and 10 all summer, since July, yet all we've managed to sort so far are two unproven kids/project signings from 2.Bundesliga, a third choice GK and a smart pickup at RB once Suguwara was off.

I'm hoping so much that we're all proven wrong and we end the window with such a good squad, but my positivity feels more ill-judged as the days tick down, of which there aren't many left.

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Always the easy choice for these shysters, regardless of ability. No better then what we already have but willing to spunk millions on him. The Sports Republic way. 

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5 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

I think Edozie was good last time in the Championship, especially before he got injured.

He was definitely finding some form before that tackle put him out, shame really.

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2 minutes ago, LGTL said:

Always the obvious choice for these shysters. No better then what we already have but willing to spunk millions on him. The Sports Republic way. 

But in their minds, they are seen to be doing something by spending £10m or more on a player. Even if he's crap the signing justifies their existence to the club. 

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It comes to something when Edozie who we'd given up on suddenly becomes a more attractive option than the names of a player we're linked with. 

Sports Republic at their finest.

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1 hour ago, Appy said:

Now that West Brom have made money from Heggem, can’t see them selling Fellows. 

If we got close to 20m I can’t see them turning that down

Would tick a very many boxes and probably be able to step up

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2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I'm sensing that Azaz, rak saki and a loan midfielder isn't going to be viewed as sufficient by the majority .

I wouldn't say that's good enough myself. Azaz alone is a 100% upgrade on what we have, so I wouldn't be unhappy with that at all. He's a good player at the top end of this league.

Rak Saki - no idea if he's any better than what we have in Edozie, or even SAA who we let go. He's not what I'd call an instant upgrade, which is what we need. He's another kid with potential upside. 

The loans will be where the value is IMO, that's where I think we may pull off some surprising deals. We had no idea on the THB last season, he'd just been promoted from this league as a Champion with Burnley, so that was a huge pickup. I'd expect similar status loans.

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1 minute ago, Smirking_Saint said:

If we got close to 20m I can’t see them turning that down

Would tick a very many boxes and probably be able to step up

This is Sport Republic we're talking about. They wouldn't even spend that on a forward when we were in the Premier League. It's far more their style to buy two mediocre players for £10m each than to buy one good player for £20m.

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5 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I'm sensing that Azaz, rak saki and a loan midfielder isn't going to be viewed as sufficient by the majority .

As I've always said, there's only one way to judge the transfer window and that is: have we come out of the window with one of the best two squads in the league (on paper). Yes = good window; No = bad window. 

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Unfortunately SS we seem to be penny pinching for the Palace winger,so are we really going to splash the cash for Fellows. I really would love to see it but cannot see us offering enough to WBA to maybe tempt them.

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12 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I'm sensing that Azaz, rak saki and a loan midfielder isn't going to be viewed as sufficient by the majority .

Those and MF remaining is not that bad. Think we need a DCM and a Striker though😂

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2 minutes ago, Andrew Watson said:

Unfortunately SS we seem to be penny pinching for the Palace winger,so are we really going to splash the cash for Fellows. I really would love to see it but cannot see us offering enough to WBA to maybe tempt them.

Ive not written off the window yet but Id be annoyed if its like that again

We have probably the best squad in the division assessed on depth, we just needed to buy 2-3 players of top quality

Spertsyan definitely made me believe that… hopefully we’re using that surplus elsewhere 

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14 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said:

If we got close to 20m I can’t see them turning that down

Would tick a very many boxes and probably be able to step up

Spending £20m on a player none of the 20 PL teams thinks is good enough for their level. Not for me.

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1 minute ago, Chez said:

Spending £20m on a player none of the 20 PL teams thinks is good enough for their level. Not for me.

Or a player that the premier league clubs don't want to spend 20 million on to have to develop for a year when they would prefer someone ready for the prem now?

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24 minutes ago, trousers said:

As I've always said, there's only one way to judge the transfer window and that is: have we come out of the window with one of the best two squads in the league (on paper). Yes = good window; No = bad window. 

Crikey, you must have been really disappointed last year then.

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3 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

If we keep Fernandes, sign Azaz and Rak Saki, we have a better squad than last time in this League, apart from maybe RB. That should be good enough for this League.

Putting aside that I don't think we will keep Fernandes, we'd be worse at RB, arguably cb and in attack although possibly better strength in depth in those departments. 

We'd be stronger at lb and central midfield. Out wide remains to be seen.

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42 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I'm sensing that Azaz, rak saki and a loan midfielder isn't going to be viewed as sufficient by the majority .

I'd live with that, but my expectations are even lower. 

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Just now, hypochondriac said:

Putting aside that I don't think we will keep Fernandes, we'd be worse at RB, arguably cb and in attack although possibly better strength in depth in those departments. 

We'd be stronger at lb and central midfield. Out wide remains to be seen.

CB and Attack are very arguable, I agree. Out wide we have the same options plus Robinson now?

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48 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I'm sensing that Azaz, rak saki and a loan midfielder isn't going to be viewed as sufficient by the majority .

I'd rather keep Edozie than waste money on Rak Saki. It's like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic except SR is rearranging the dead wood. 

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I know its not going to happen but another vote from me to keep/use Edozie.

Honestly he was not half bad in the Championship season and he can start and wear out a full back or come off the bench and create 15 mins of chaos. I liked him.

 

If we went out and bought someone with his exact age/stats tomorrow I think most fans would be happy with it.

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12 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

CB and Attack are very arguable, I agree. Out wide we have the same options plus Robinson now?

Assume we will be losing Edozie. We also lost Sulemana who wasn't great but offered something we don't now have .

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Just now, hypochondriac said:

Assume we will be losing Edozie. We also lost Sulemana who wasn't great but offered something we don't now have .

Trust the process - Spors clearly knows what he's doing.

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2 minutes ago, Appy said:

Good, at least two wingers is essential. 

To be fair, your snippets have been about as useful Mystic Meg - I've got £250k worth of Armenian flags that you owe me for.

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5 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

I know its not going to happen but another vote from me to keep/use Edozie.

Honestly he was not half bad in the Championship season and he can start and wear out a full back or come off the bench and create 15 mins of chaos. I liked him.

 

If we went out and bought someone with his exact age/stats tomorrow I think most fans would be happy with it.

I agree, but he wants to leave.

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1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

Assume we will be losing Edozie. We also lost Sulemana who wasn't great but offered something we don't now have .

He hardly played. 

The problem is you can't assume anything - you can treat it as it is now, or wait until the end of the window. Making doom-laden assumptions isn't comparing oranges with oranges.

Either way, one of the biggest criticisms of Martin was that we finished 4th with one of the top two squads in the division. The difference between that and us now is not fucking Sulemana.

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1 minute ago, Farmer Saint said:

He hardly played. 

The problem is you can't assume anything - you can treat it as it is now, or wait until the end of the window. Making doom-laden assumptions isn't comparing oranges with oranges.

Either way, one of the biggest criticisms of Martin was that we finished 4th with one of the top two squads in the division. The difference between that and us now is not fucking Sulemana.

I haven't. I'm commenting on things as they are now and what could possibly occur in the next week.There's no assumption about what will definitely happen .

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8 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

To be fair, your snippets have been about as useful Mystic Meg - I've got £250k worth of Armenian flags that you owe me for.

Was this aimed at me? 

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