Galway saint Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 44 minutes ago, goodymatt said: Edozie cost €8m and has more output than Sulemana. We don’t need to buy an £18m player to replace him. Appreciate the gamble type signing concerns, SR have got it wrong most often but we can only hope Spors is making more informed and better suited decisions. Having more output than Sulemana is not difficult but I personally think Edozie has to date been another poor signing to add to the list. He’s doesn’t have any end product. Others might know how his loan went last season, but I hope he’s not pencilled in for the starting 11 5
ally_uk Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago We also have been linked to: Fotis Ioannidis, both this season and last season. Could be the main striker target albeit a ambitious one. 1
Dusic Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 47 minutes ago, woodsaint1 said: We already have Championship proven players throughout our squad, because guess what....they got us promoted before. We need players who can do well in the Championship but can also make the step up to the PL should we get promoted. Clearly Spors and our scouts see this in Downs otherwise he wouldnt be a target. As for Leeds, other than Joe Rodon from Spurs, they didnt sign any fringe PL players last summer. They worked with the squad who lost to us and added a few unknowns like Tanaka, Ramazani, Schmidt and even added Joe Rothwell. Lets just see where we are come the start of August. Although unlikely we could still have Fernandes, THB, Dibling and Ramsdale for all we know Spot on - a lot of baseless dross written on here at this time of year as you have just demonstrated. We have revamped our entire recruitment setup so for now need to trust that they know what they are doing rather than moan because some of the players that they want, that they know in a lot of detail, are players most of us have never seen play. 1
SuperSAINT Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 2 hours ago, hypochondriac said: Almost certainly we won't accept that. 25 million maybe we would consider it. Assuming it’s true (& Nixon is patchy) and their first bid was 20m, 25m shouldn’t be too much of a problem for Porto to reach. You’d have thought the Portuguese media would be all over it.
Bob60 Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 47 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: We use the best ones who may be suitable for the prem or we replace them in the prem and use them as squad players or we sell them back to the championship to the teams who have just been relegated or we loan a couple out. Let's deal with the championship first and then have a proper plan if we ever get promoted again. Don't think it ever proves to be that easy to shift players you don't want, we also already have a few championship players who got promoted before. 1
Saint Scott Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 3 hours ago, hypochondriac said: Maybe not to you but it's all about opinions maybe I have higher standards. Just about reaching double figures in a league a fair bit weaker than the Championship isn't particularly exciting to me. Our attacking signings are really the ones we need to be top notch this season. Is this bloke better than Che Adams? I wouldn't say so on an initial impression but it is just first impressions so maybe he will be good. Sorry, the Belgian league and MLS are stronger than the championship? 😂
Fabrice29 Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago The new way of recruiting and game model was always going to bring these types of signings. Physical attributes and off the ball qualities are high priorities again so will always lead to trying to find gems in a cheaper market. We have plenty of proven Championship players in our team already and people seem to forget we spent last summer topping up on PL experience only for quite a lot of them being underwhelming. Biggest risk is the focus on the off the ball qualities will lead to us neglecting the on the ball stuff like we ended up doing under RH in the end. Hopefully with enough joined up thinking in the building between Spors and Still and combined with the proven quality we already have we can avoid neglecting that but these types of signings were always going to happen under this way and are a natural part of the game model changing. 4
goodymatt Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 54 minutes ago, Galway saint said: Having more output than Sulemana is not difficult but I personally think Edozie has to date been another poor signing to add to the list. He’s doesn’t have any end product. Others might know how his loan went last season, but I hope he’s not pencilled in for the starting 11 Agree Edozie’s end product also concerns and not saying he will be the answer, more just using him as an example that Sulemana will not be difficult to replace, given his contributions. Edozie doesn’t feel a downgrade on Sulemana for me, which speaks volumes. 1
goodymatt Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago (edited) This would suggest he was the ‘unnamed striker’ we were confident of signing from the Solak interviews. Edited 15 hours ago by goodymatt 1
Weston Super Saint Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 1 hour ago, Nolan said: If it is Downs we get a target man who, though not quite as tall as Onuachu has a higher top speed, a better positional sense and better link play. Some hippy version of top trumps? 1
CB Fry Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 43 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: What does his Mum look like? 5
Saint Neil Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago Downs on the bench for USA v Costa Rica in an hours time.
hypochondriac Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 1 hour ago, Saint Scott said: Sorry, the Belgian league and MLS are stronger than the championship? 😂 Statistically that appears to be the case.
Nolan Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago (edited) Came on at 78" and was the final penalty taker in the shoot out... Edited 9 hours ago by Nolan 3
BarryVenisonsHair Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 7 hours ago, ally_uk said: We also have been linked to: Fotis Ioannidis, both this season and last season. Could be the main striker target albeit a ambitious one. Not that it means anything but I'm a big fan solely due to the fact he was superb in a long save I did with Panathinaikos in FM...
hypochondriac Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, sockeye said: Iaonnidis is too expensive for a Championship club Didn't we spend something like 15 million on Charles last time?
Turkish Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 2 hours ago, Nolan said: Came on at 78" and was the final penalty taker in the shoot out... I’m gonna say this is going to be a fricking awesome signing. Our first USA soccerball player since goal minder Casey Keller back in 2003 if I’m mistaken. Let’s give hope he can get lots of goal conversions in series 2025/26! 2
Charlie Wayman Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago We seem to be well on course to sign nobody with only a few more weeks to go. 1 3
ErwinK1961 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Charlie Wayman said: We seem to be well on course to sign nobody with only a few more weeks to go. Poor effort, 1/10 3
SuperSAINT Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) Could see this one happening eventually. Edited 5 hours ago by SuperSAINT
Sparkkyy Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, Turkish said: I’m gonna say this is going to be a fricking awesome signing. Our first USA soccerball player since goal minder Casey Keller back in 2003 if I’m mistaken. Let’s give hope he can get lots of goal conversions in series 2025/26! Cody Cropper
leesaint88 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 16 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Could see this one happening eventually. Maybe. It seems like Porto wanted to spend £19 million via instalments too, if they stump up a large amount of cash upfront then the club might go for it.
Turkish Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 1 minute ago, leesaint88 said: Maybe. It seems like Porto wanted to spend £19 million via instalments too, if they stump up a large amount of cash upfront then the club might go for it. As is pretty much every transfer fee in the world.
leesaint88 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Just now, Turkish said: As is pretty much every transfer fee in the world. To an extent. But some of the articles in the Portuguese press suggest just £5 million upfront which is reasonably small compared to equivalently priced transfers.. 1
disconnect Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Didnt we sign Harwood-Bellis for around £20 million, not £15 million? If we were to sell (which we might if he says he wants to play Champions League!) then I think around £25-30 mill would allow us to sell. It would be leaving us pretty short at Centre Back though, especially with Bedders likely to leave along with ABK (and Stephens hopefully finally found out). Would we sign a replacement?
revolution saint Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 5 minutes ago, disconnect said: Didnt we sign Harwood-Bellis for around £20 million, not £15 million? If we were to sell (which we might if he says he wants to play Champions League!) then I think around £25-30 mill would allow us to sell. It would be leaving us pretty short at Centre Back though, especially with Bedders likely to leave along with ABK (and Stephens hopefully finally found out). Would we sign a replacement? Not sure we're short at CB - we'll still have Wood, Edwards, Quarshie, Sanda. I don't think Stephens goes and can always play Bree and Taylor there too. Not a huge amount of experience mind but in terms of numbers then it's fine. Edited 5 hours ago by revolution saint
CSA96 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago One we were reportedly interested in... scratch him off the list
goodymatt Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 5 minutes ago, CSA96 said: One we were reportedly interested in... scratch him off the list Looked like a good signing but perhaps we will stick with our current FB options?
goodymatt Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 49 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Could see this one happening eventually. Just the 1 week after saying on Sky he wants to be in the PL and the only way to do that is getting promoted with us. Edited 4 hours ago by goodymatt
sockeye Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 50 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Could see this one happening eventually. He didn’t impress me in the PL last season. Would take £25m to make some money back on him. I reckon we could get closer to 30 though. In general, our defense is pretty large, and at this point, I would rather strengthen it if we were to get promoted first time of asking
skintsaint Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, Charlie Wayman said: We seem to be well on course to sign nobody with only a few more weeks to go. One in, two out so far.
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago What I want to know is when will we be rid of Bednareck? 2
gio1saints Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) If I was THB I’m checking my passport is up to date. Porto? Lovely city. Great weather. Brilliant stadium. Great home support. Champions League football. Likely to win a cup / league title whilst there. Only a few hours flying away. Will play with some great players and definitely be in Tuchels eyeline. Would probably score a few as well out there. Plus not be quite under so much pressure to defend as Porto are a dominant team out there. His passing ability and extra bit of British vigour would go down well. And I’d be glad for him. You join Saints and do alright then a CL team can come in for you. That’s the message. As for price - if it’s £20m I’m taking it if I was Saints. A player on his third time around in the championship will not be as motivated as the new guys despite THB being a top bloke top-ish player and never gave less than 100%. Would go with my blessing and goodwill anyways. NB. If he stays he’s going to be a cheat code CB for us this season. The outstanding CB in the league in all probability. But all the same, would not deny him his big chance. Edited 4 hours ago by gio1saints 4
goodymatt Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 5 minutes ago, gio1saints said: If I was THB I’m checking my passport is up to date. Porto? Lovely city. Great weather. Champions League football. Likely to win a cup / league title whilst there. Only a few hours flying away. Will play with some great players and definitely be in Tuchels eyeline. Would probably score a few as well out there. Plus not be quite under so much pressure to defend as Porto are a dominant team out there. His passing ability and extra bit of British vigour would go down well. And I’d be glad for him. You join Saints and do alright then a CL team can come in for you. That’s the message. As for price - if it’s £20m I’m taking it if I was Saints. A player on his third time around in the championship will not be as motivated as the new guys despite THB being a top bloke top-ish player and never gave less than 100%. Would go with my blessing and goodwill anyways. Only breaking even on a player that has won promotion from the championship last 2 times of asking and has potential still to realise would be very disappointing for me. Exactly the quality and experience we need to go straight back up and a player that we should be looking to make money on. Hard to judge how PL ready he really is given the way we played as a whole last season, spending half the season playing out into trouble. He was top of the errors leading to goals charts but I’ve always thought he looked better in a back 4. I’d keep unless someone comes in with a £25-30m fee. Porto are not in the CL next season, they finished third and will play Europa. Edited 4 hours ago by goodymatt 3
SuperSAINT Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 17 minutes ago, sockeye said: He didn’t impress me in the PL last season. Would take £25m to make some money back on him. I reckon we could get closer to 30 though. In general, our defense is pretty large, and at this point, I would rather strengthen it if we were to get promoted first time of asking I think THB was one of the obvious sales to make & I agree he didn’t have a good season (not many did) - but losing one for the championships best defenders isn’t ideal.
Oh no Mick Mills Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago I thought THB was our worst CB last season, which is saying something . 3
Midfield_General Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 28 minutes ago, goodymatt said: Just the 1 week after saying on Sky he wants to be in the PL and the only way to do that is getting promoted with us. He can’t stop people bidding for him though. It doesn’t sound like he’s being a dick about it, so it should hopefully be a case of only selling if we get an offer that we feel is too good to turn down. Otherwise he stays. We seem to be driving some very good deals on sales so far, and if the player’s not throwing his toys out then there’s no real pressure to sell if we don’t want to, so I’d imagine the offer would need to be nearer £25m + performance add-ons up to closer to £28-30m and maybe a sell-on to make it worthwhile. If we’re going to play a 4 at the back then I suspect the thinking might be that our starting CBs will be Stephens and Edwards, with Quarshie and Wood as back-ups. If the club and Still are comfortable with that, then I’d imagine that sort of money through the door for THB would be considered very useful to strengthen the other areas of the team that need more major surgery. Edited 4 hours ago by Midfield_General 2
Lighthouse Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 21 minutes ago, skintsaint said: One in, two out so far. Onuachu, Lumley, Lallana and KWP. 1
Rebel Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago I think we will start to see a lot more movement in the transfer market from this week onwards - partly because for us July is the month that players with relegation clauses in their contracts get a pay cut - and also players are coming back from their holidays and ready to move on. I fully expect players like Bednarek and Aribo to quietly leave in the next week or so. Its also the crossover period for PSR which I think will also make a big difference to a lot of clubs.
gio1saints Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago @goodymatt don’t get me wrong I rate / love him him. And £25-£30m is not excessive for a British international CB. However: In the Championship he is great but was he in the EPL? My view is he needs a little bit more time on the ball than the speed of play at highest level here. Certainly in a team like ours which will usually be under relentless pressure (when /if) we next go up. Hence somewhere continental Europe is perfect. OR play for a team that will hog possession- like Man City or Celtic basically. Ronnie Edward’s is a ball playing CB ready to play in THB’s role and the shift towards physicality with the new guy shows the direction of traffic there. 1
trousers Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Golac's Cunning Stunts said: What I want to know is when will we be rid of Bednareck? I'm not a paid up member of the Jan Bednarek fan club, but isn't he a decent player at Championship level and we're going to need a core of experienced players dotted around the squad. If we were linked to another 29 year centre back with 69 international caps to his name in a top 40 ranked country we'd probably think that was a decent catch for a championship side...? 7
goodymatt Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago (edited) Signings like Downes, THB, Archer were out of the Ipswich book of signing players that might make the step up but if we go down put us in a great position to return immediately. I see O’Shea, one of the best CBs in the champ (if not the best) has extended his deal at Ipswich. Keeping these players that were bought with relegation in mind is important, otherwise we are starting Quarshie and Edwards instead of THB and Bednarek and to me that seems a big risk, when we know how good they can be at champ level. Appreciate this might just be the reality of relegation but some difficult decisions to be made. Edited 4 hours ago by goodymatt 1
Rebel Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 28 minutes ago, goodymatt said: Looked like a good signing but perhaps we will stick with our current FB options? if we are not in for Kesler-Hayden at that price it suggests to me that Sugawara is staying with us this season. 2
suewhistle Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 13 hours ago, Nolan said: If it is Downs we get a target man who, though not quite as tall as Onuachu has a higher top speed, a better positional sense and better link play. Better stamina too?
Midfield_General Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Onuachu, Lumley, Lallana and KWP. And Sulemana by the end of the day hopefully unless he somehow manages to fuck up his medical as well
goodymatt Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Rebel said: if we are not in for Kesler-Hayden at that price it suggests to me that Sugawara is staying with us this season. I’m inclined to agree. We were also linked with Max Johnston, but reports have suggested he might have doubts. I think Suguwara is decent going forward and should be less of a defensive liability in the championship. Still’s system should suit him better. Bree is also solid enough and both have decent crossing that is more important to Still. I’m ok to go with what we have in the FB positions. 1
goodymatt Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Just now, Midfield_General said: And Sulemana by the end of the day hopefully unless he somehow manages to fuck up his medical as well I read yesterday they expect the medical to be completed by the end of this week, not sure what the delay is but might not be announced today.
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