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Miltonaggro

Miltonaggro

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12 hours ago, Midfield_General said:

It will be either Leicester or Rangers for him, I think. 

Berwick Rangers might be a tad ambitious. Hopefully it's Leicester.

Miltonaggro

Miltonaggro

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1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said:

The plans significantly changed from those original plans. Significantly higher in spec and scope. That impacted the cost.

Didn't help with Cortese insisting that the gold-plated lightswitches and coat hooks were all a foot lower than normal, and that there was an in-house dry-cleaners.

Midfield_General

Midfield_General

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1 hour ago, Turkish said:

Given Staplewood went hugely over budget because of Corteses dicking around I wouldn’t trust the cost figures as a true indication of its value. 
 

yes I know inprovements have been made since then but a top line figure as to the total cost of Staplewood isn’t a true indication as to its value, I believe the original cost was almost £20m over the initial budget, mainly due to the dwarf 

That private toilet was spectacular though, worth every penny he paid of someone else’s money 

leesaint88

leesaint88

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10 minutes ago, Give it to Ron said:

Talksport via Alex Crook saying Will Still in the frame for the job? Maybe backup option?

Looking at what's being reported it seems the first target is Rohl with Still in a close second. Personally, I think we'll up with with Still as I think Rohl wants a gig back in Germany over another year in the Championship. 

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revolution saint

revolution saint

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19 minutes ago, Miltonaggro said:

Berwick Rangers might be a tad ambitious. Hopefully it's Leicester.

Yep, I'd like to see RM get the Leicester job for a number of reasons.  One of them being that if we plan on a big overhaul of players then it's more likely that he'll want to take some of the fringe players we don't want.  

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Smirking_Saint

Smirking_Saint

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12 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Russell’s agent and Russell himself seem to rate him far higher than the actual football industry does. Turns out results and clean sheets every now and again are important.

Leicester the only game in town left but that’s only if they can afford to sack RVN at the end of next month.

I dunno I think he’s a good coach, with a worthy philosophy, someone will take him on

I don’t think we’d of stayed up but think if we had a good footballing DoF putting in the correct checks and balances we’d of made better transfer decisions as well as maybe stopping a lot of Martins stubbornness around his way of play

He’ll certainly have admirers but Id suggests he’s the sort of manager you ultimately need a strong squad, relative to the competition, for him to thrive

Smirking_Saint

Smirking_Saint

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2 hours ago, Turkish said:

Given Staplewood went hugely over budget because of Corteses dicking around I wouldn’t trust the cost figures as a true indication of its value. 
 

yes I know inprovements have been made since then but a top line figure as to the total cost of Staplewood isn’t a true indication as to its value, I believe the original cost was almost £20m over the initial budget, mainly due to the dwarf 

A significant chunk went to SSEN in order to underground the overhead infrastructure that was originally in place

gecko

gecko

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28 minutes ago, leesaint88 said:

Looking at what's being reported it seems the first target is Rohl with Still in a close second. Personally, I think we'll up with with Still as I think Rohl wants a gig back in Germany over another year in the Championship. 

I think we're an excellent prospect for someone like Rohl - we're clearly not good enough for the prem at the moment, sure, but we are likely to be one of the auto-promotion candidates for sure. A promotion on the CV always looks good, regardless of whether it was "expected" - and we're a better chance than most to get one. It also (arguably) looks better than taking some mid-table German lot to.... mid table again?

You might be right though. The call of a Leipzig (or similar) may well carry other importance to him.

sockeye

sockeye

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54 minutes ago, miserableoldgit said:

Ruben Selles available....👀

Wednesday would suit him. He’s gotten used to working with basketcase owners by now.

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LGTL

LGTL

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I can think of nothing more Sport Republic than hiring Will Still. It’ll be a huge risk and one that I think would end in disaster. 

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DT

DT

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19 minutes ago, LGTL said:

I can think of nothing more Sport Republic than hiring Will Still. It’ll be a huge risk and one that I think would end in disaster. 

Agree. Stinks of Rasmus being clever clever yet again

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aintforever

aintforever

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18 minutes ago, LGTL said:

I can think of nothing more Sport Republic than hiring Will Still. It’ll be a huge risk and one that I think would end in disaster. 

This. Would be a weird appointment, has he actually achieved anything?

DT

DT

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Just now, aintforever said:

This. Would be a weird appointment, has he actually achieved anything?

Absolutely nothing. Which we love.

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Wade Garrett

Wade Garrett

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10 minutes ago, aintforever said:

This. Would be a weird appointment, has he actually achieved anything?

No, he’s a gimmick that the geeks will beat themselves off over.  Until they realise he’s out of his depth.

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Saint86

Saint86

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Watched Stockport last night in the playoffs, thought they played well and some very nice football. Really wouldn't be adverse to us trying Challinor out - far better CV than the likes of Martin and Jones, and better than a some of the more "SR style" risky names that have been mentioned.

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Chez

Chez

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3 hours ago, ally_uk said:

Hypothetically if Rohl is appointed, could any of the Sheff Wed's lads do a job for us? 

I'm not to familiar with the squad. 

Changing the subject also, What's the situation with Poku at Peterborough? 

He is a player we should be looking at 💯 

Just spent a week on holiday talking football with a Birmingham ST holder who is from Sheffield. Poku is a player the bluenoses are looking at. The talk at Birmingham is having a budget to match the parachute clubs like us and of signing players this summer good enough for the Prem (and targeting CL in five years), so they are very very ambitious. I'd suggest we should be interested in anyone they are interested, Poku being one of them.

If you have not seen him, he's a very left footed right winger. He is a good dribbler, likes cutting inside and shooting. He does go outside to keep the fullback honest, but I think we all know by now that that `third' of the pitch inside the fullback is the place where most goals come from, so maybe we get someone in that can actually score goals, like he does from that position. He's not lightning quick, but he is more robust than Edozie. I'd be surprised if we hadn't scouted him, Raki-Sakyi and a few others to play on that right side, especially if we are going to offload Armstrong.

As for Wednesday, Charles won their player of the season, but many saw Gassama as the better talent. He's another winger, this time right footed (with a stronger `swinger' than Poku) who seemed comfortable on either side. He scored a few last season. He's not lightening quick either, but I thought he looked a little more dynamic than Poku, maybe a bit more acceleration? Like Poku, he has tricks and a nice drop of the shoulder. After him, Valery did OK for them, suiting their system, but not sure we want to go back there.

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gecko

gecko

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1 hour ago, Smirking_Saint said:

I can’t see Leipzig going for a relatively untested championship manager 

I don't think they should/would either. But he was rumoured to be of interest to them only a month ago since Marco Rose's departure, all hearsay of course. 

Forester

Forester

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Not getting the negativity from a few on here for both Still and O’Neil.  Yes the latter was a Pompey player, but so was Crouch when he joined us and he did well and was liked here.  Taking the two in turn:

- Still now in his second top flight job at the age of 32 and widely seen to have done a good job at both clubs.  Lens guaranteed a top half finish ahead of final game against Monaco.

- O’Neil took over from Parker off the back of poor start to season at Bournemouth, newly promoted, and kept them up comfortably in their first season back.  Then goes to Wolves, widely predicted for the drop which is why Lopetegui walked out on eve of season starting.  Took them against expectations to comfortable mid table finish.  Was sacked in second season, but how many managers don’t have at least one disappointment on their CV?  Strachan, Poch and Koeman all had one when appointed.

To be clear, I would also be happy with Danny Rohl, Steve Cooper or Sean Dyche, so not touting these two in isolation,  but it’s depressing to see people with good track record written off.

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revolution saint

revolution saint

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16 minutes ago, Forester said:

Not getting the negativity from a few on here for both Still and O’Neil.  Yes the latter was a Pompey player, but so was Crouch when he joined us and he did well and was liked here.  Taking the two in turn:

- Still now in his second top flight job at the age of 32 and widely seen to have done a good job at both clubs.  Lens guaranteed a top half finish ahead of final game against Monaco.

- O’Neil took over from Parker off the back of poor start to season at Bournemouth, newly promoted, and kept them up comfortably in their first season back.  Then goes to Wolves, widely predicted for the drop which is why Lopetegui walked out on eve of season starting.  Took them against expectations to comfortable mid table finish.  Was sacked in second season, but how many managers don’t have at least one disappointment on their CV?  Strachan, Poch and Koeman all had one when appointed.

To be clear, I would also be happy with Danny Rohl, Steve Cooper or Sean Dyche, so not touting these two in isolation,  but it’s depressing to see people with good track record written off.

Yeah, I'm the same as you.  Surprised anyone knows the supposed candidates well enough to have much more than a casual opinion.  

2Morrow

2Morrow

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Likely to be off the back of the Talkshite 'rumour' (Crooks). Can't imagine we will hear any update until we are a championship club officially in a few weeks. Players won't be back until July in any case 

OldNick

OldNick

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53 minutes ago, Forester said:

Not getting the negativity from a few on here for both Still and O’Neil.  Yes the latter was a Pompey player, but so was Crouch when he joined us and he did well and was liked here.  Taking the two in turn:

- Still now in his second top flight job at the age of 32 and widely seen to have done a good job at both clubs.  Lens guaranteed a top half finish ahead of final game against Monaco.

- O’Neil took over from Parker off the back of poor start to season at Bournemouth, newly promoted, and kept them up comfortably in their first season back.  Then goes to Wolves, widely predicted for the drop which is why Lopetegui walked out on eve of season starting.  Took them against expectations to comfortable mid table finish.  Was sacked in second season, but how many managers don’t have at least one disappointment on their CV?  Strachan, Poch and Koeman all had one when appointed.

To be clear, I would also be happy with Danny Rohl, Steve Cooper or Sean Dyche, so not touting these two in isolation,  but it’s depressing to see people with good track record written off.

O'Neill would be a disaster from first moment. Only have to see how the Leicester fans were with Cooper being ex Forest. 

Hiding to nothing and SR would be mad to snub the fans by taking him on, only have to see how 'Agent Harry' came into play, and after a few bad results the fans would be on him. 

We dont need this after the way things have gone the last few years

Both Bournemouth and Wlves results and style of play improved after he left

ABSOLUTELY NOT FOR ME

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Weston Super Saint

Weston Super Saint

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17 minutes ago, OldNick said:

O'Neill would be a disaster from first moment. Only have to see how the Leicester fans were with Cooper being ex Forest. 

Hiding to nothing and SR would be mad to snub the fans by taking him on, only have to see how 'Agent Harry' came into play, and after a few bad results the fans would be on him. 

We dont need this after the way things have gone the last few years

Both Bournemouth and Wlves results and style of play improved after he left

ABSOLUTELY NOT FOR ME

Second lowest points total ever and a couple of boos from the fans.

I wouldn't underestimate what our customer base is willing to accept.

BarberSaint

BarberSaint

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18 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

The figures I provided show a vast gap in wage bills and that it isn't unreasonable to think they apply to a vast gap in both manager and player wages between the clubs. What reason would there be for that not to be the case?

I do have to interject at this point.  You're talking crap, making an argument and trying to back it up with something that isn't the evidence and isn't any evidence.

OldNick

OldNick

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10 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Second lowest points total ever and a couple of boos from the fans.

I wouldn't underestimate what our customer base is willing to accept.

A risk not worth taking, I think the fans can stomach the 2nd lowest points total as they understood in the main the squad is not good enough, but to take on O'Neill would be a step too far.

aintforever

aintforever

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1 hour ago, Forester said:

- Still now in his second top flight job at the age of 32 and widely seen to have done a good job at both clubs.  Lens guaranteed a top half finish ahead of final game against Monaco.

 Is getting a top half finish with Lens really a great achievement?  

coalman

coalman

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What they need to do is pick a random football stat - say possession or maybe headers attempted in the centre circle on a Tuesday. Then stack rank all the managers in Europe and see who comes out on top. That's our new manager. Of course - we can't pick a stat like games won or goals scored because we'll never get that manager so they'll need to go looking until they find a stat that is achievable. Fortunately, Rasmus has a spreadsheet so I would imagine they'll have known who is next for at least a couple of years or so. Such is the meticulous level of detail that Sports Republic have bought to the party.

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leesaint88

leesaint88

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7 minutes ago, aintforever said:

 Is getting a top half finish with Lens really a great achievement?  

Considering they lost Wahi, Samba, Danso & Khusanov and he's had limited money to spend. I think it's a pretty decent job..

Miltonaggro

Miltonaggro

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28 minutes ago, aintforever said:

 Is getting a top half finish with Lens really a great achievement?  

2024 - 7th (Haise)

2023 - 2nd (Haise) 1 point off PSG as champions

2022 - 7th (Haise)

2021 - 7th (Haise)

2020 - 2nd (Montanier / Haise)

7th last year saw Franck Haise off to Nice (currently 4th), Will Still's RC Lens are 9th in Ligue 1 (a league of 18) with a game to go and looks like their final position.    

 

Lee On Solent Saint

Lee On Solent Saint

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1 hour ago, OldNick said:

O'Neill would be a disaster from first moment. Only have to see how the Leicester fans were with Cooper being ex Forest. 

Hiding to nothing and SR would be mad to snub the fans by taking him on, only have to see how 'Agent Harry' came into play, and after a few bad results the fans would be on him. 

We dont need this after the way things have gone the last few years

Both Bournemouth and Wlves results and style of play improved after he left

ABSOLUTELY NOT FOR ME

We could do lot worse, and to be honest,  probably will.

Dr. Kucho

Dr. Kucho

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Would be pretty pleased with Still becoming our new manager. Has done well in France and Belgium and doesn’t stick to one system. That said he’s young and we are coming of our worst season, so would need at least 1 experienced assistant to help him.

BarberSaint

BarberSaint

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7 hours ago, Smirking_Saint said:

I dunno I think he’s a good coach, with a worthy philosophy, someone will take him on

I don’t think we’d of stayed up but think if we had a good footballing DoF putting in the correct checks and balances we’d of made better transfer decisions as well as maybe stopping a lot of Martins stubbornness around his way of play

He’ll certainly have admirers but Id suggests he’s the sort of manager you ultimately need a strong squad, relative to the competition, for him to thrive

So, in other words - he's shit.

 

Yep, I agree.

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