Who do we want next as Saints manager?

[Tommy Mulgrew]

17 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

have

???

[OldNick]

1 hour ago, Chez said:

Kill me now.

I was bored of seeing the same old names and poked the bear for a response lol 

[sockeye]

1 hour ago, Saint86 said:

Rumours of a saudi bid for Sheffield Wednesday started circulating on Tuesday. When did the odds start to shorten on Will Still?

Seems like there's a 100m bid from the Denver Broncos owners according to their forum. Wouldn't be surprised to see Rohl stay in that case. Might be a bit awkward though... bit like saying goodbye to a mate and then you end up walking the same way anyway.

[Matthew Le God]

5 minutes ago, sockeye said:

Seems like there's a 100m bid from the Denver Broncos owners according to their forum. Wouldn't be surprised to see Rohl stay in that case. Might be a bit awkward though... bit like saying goodbye to a mate and then you end up walking the same way anyway.

A takeover doesn't allow them to outspend us next season. Our income will still be significantly higher, so will our wage/transfer budget next season. Our squad is already a lot better than theirs.

[aintforever]

1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said:

That still would not be able to give Rohl a bigger wage and transfer budget he'd have with us for next season. Our income will dwarf theirs and allows us to spend more.

You don't know that.

[Saint86]

23 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

A takeover doesn't allow them to outspend us next season. Our income will still be significantly higher, so will our wage/transfer budget next season. Our squad is already a lot better than theirs.

Very simplistic way to look at it, and i'm surprised you'd try to make such an inflexible/vulnerable argument, especially when it is unprompted and entirely your own proposition as well - even at a macro level it isn't just down to whoever has the biggest budget (ipswich beat us and leeds to 2nd last year, Luton got relegated this season), and that ignores Rohl's personal preferences as well... I can see how it might make Wednesday more attractive to him depending on his mindset - He will be under less pressure there than at saints, he has the chance to be part of an exciting and fresh project, and there is a greater chance arguably to win plaudits (i.e., doing well with Wednesday as opposed to at saints where it will be expected and failure will damage him)... and in fairness, he wouldn't have to deal with the car crash morale that is at saints currently, let alone the summer upheaval we're going to have (i.e., exits and rebuilding). And then add to that the perspective that our ownership's commitment is somewhat uncertain (as far as an external people will be concerned). Plus, he might actually be happy in Sheffield generally - and he knows that squad, knows what he needs for a promotion push etc.

Saints are a riskier prospect for Rohl than a newly taken over Wednesday (where the fans all love him).

Edited Friday at 14:44 by Saint86

[Matthew Le God]

7 minutes ago, aintforever said:

You don't know that.

I do know our income will be significantly higher than theirs. I do know that our wage budget will be significantly higher. Their transfer spending won't be able to be close to ours (takeover or not) due to how the financial rules work.

[Sheaf Saint]

1 hour ago, Tommy Mulgrew said:

???

You read it right.

I would actually prefer to stick my knob in a (now deceased) Scouse drag queen than see Robbie Savage as Saints manager.

[aintforever]

27 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

I do know our income will be significantly higher than theirs. I do know that our wage budget will be significantly higher. Their transfer spending won't be able to be close to ours (takeover or not) due to how the financial rules work.

Only if they stick to the rules.

[Wade Garrett]

43 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

You read it right.

I would actually prefer to stick my knob in a (now deceased) Scouse drag queen than see Robbie Savage as Saints manager.

I’m getting some Jimmy Savile vibes from you.

[Give it to Ron]

https://eflanalysis.com/news/frank-lampard-is-quite-keen-on-leaving-coventry-city-for-championship-rivals-they-like-him-too/

Coventry Boss Frank Lampard reportedly keen on Southampton Job according to @EFLAnalysis_ and @GraemeBailey 

Full article 👉 eflanalysis.com/news/frank-lam

Edited 20 hours ago by Give it to Ron

[Saint Fan CaM]

4 hours ago, Give it to Ron said:

https://eflanalysis.com/news/frank-lampard-is-quite-keen-on-leaving-coventry-city-for-championship-rivals-they-like-him-too/

Coventry Boss Frank Lampard reportedly keen on Southampton Job according to @EFLAnalysis_ and @GraemeBailey 

Full article 👉 eflanalysis.com/news/frank-lam

I don’t want that ‘Skate by association’ anywhere near our club. It would be another nail in the coffin in my eyes and confirmation that SR don't understand the fans or the clubs history one iota.

[Matthew Le God]

1 hour ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

I don’t want that ‘Skate by association’ anywhere near our club. It would be another nail in the coffin in my eyes and confirmation that SR don't understand the fans or the clubs history one iota.

Ruling Lampard out for a Pompey "connection" is bizarre. He is not a blood relative of Harry Redknapp, and even if he was... so what? Lampard has never played for or managed Pompey. Ruling out candidates due to association to rival clubs by their uncles makes little sense. 

[saint michael]

My reason for not wanting him is that he has a record of not being able to organise a defence. Friends at Chelsea said it was his downfall.  We do need someone who is able to coach all aspects of a team or have people around them to work with who can. 
 

strachan went through a period where you could bet on a clean sheet and scoring a late goal because they were super fit 

[AlexLaw76]

Lampard is a pretty good Championship manager

[Ed Rooney]

2 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

I don’t want that ‘Skate by association’ anywhere near our club. It would be another nail in the coffin in my eyes and confirmation that SR don't understand the fans or the clubs history one iota.

Oh dear 

[Farmer Saint]

30 minutes ago, saint michael said:

My reason for not wanting him is that he has a record of not being able to organise a defence. Friends at Chelsea said it was his downfall.  We do need someone who is able to coach all aspects of a team or have people around them to work with who can. 
 

strachan went through a period where you could bet on a clean sheet and scoring a late goal because they were super fit 

He did a good job last year with Cov TBF. The Manager also doesn't have to be able to coach a defence, a defensive coach does. All that needs to happen is synergy between the overall tactics put forward by the Manager and the coaching done by the coaching staff.

Edited 13 hours ago by Farmer Saint

[Lord Duckhunter]

42 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Lampard is a pretty good Championship manager

Based on what? 
 

2 play off failures? 

Edited 13 hours ago by Lord Duckhunter

[AlexLaw76]

4 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Based on what? 
 

2 play off failures? 

which is more than most in this league

[Matthew Le God]

14 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Based on what? 
 

2 play off failures? 

Coventry’s rise from where they were when he took charge to the end of the season was pretty impressive. 

[Saint Fan CaM]

55 minutes ago, Ed Rooney said:

Oh dear 

And? Convince me otherwise.

[Saint Fan CaM]

19 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Coventry’s rise from where they were when he took charge to the end of the season was pretty impressive. 

By their standards maybe.

[Badger]

Of the ‘name’ managers who rely on their playing days to get management jobs I’ve always thought Lampard the most likely to make it as a manager. 
 

I don’t think his record is too bad, but I lost a lot of time for him with his touchline spat with Klopp which was pretty poor. And I wouldn’t be impressed if he just walked out on Coventry after a few months. 
 

Having said that about his record, he did oversee his Everton side losing at home to Nathan Jones! 

Hopefully just media bullshit. 
 

 

[Matthew Le God]

2 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

By their standards maybe.

Wouldn't it be strange to not judge a manager based on the situation and resources he has available to him at the club he is at?

[Weston Super Saint]

33 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

which is more than most in this league

3 managers 'fail' in the play offs every season.

I suspect there are quite a lot of current managers in this position.

[Saint Fan CaM]

15 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Wouldn't it be strange to not judge a manager based on the situation and resources he has available to him at the club he is at?

Double negative, but that’s fine. The answer is, to a degree yes, however there are a number of other more important factors to consider. Pointless appointing any given manager however successful if his style of play, his character, his desire to utilise youth, etc etc. did not match the ideals of SFC. Plus your assertion only holds true to a point…for example even if Camberley Town topped their table by winning every game in the season, do you honestly think Saints would appoint their manager? (The answer is no).

Edited 12 hours ago by Saint Fan CaM

[Matthew Le God]

4 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Double negative, but that’s fine. The answer is, to a degree yes, however there are a number of other more important factors to consider. Pointless appointing any given manager however successful if his style of play, his character, his desire to utilise youth, etc etc. did not match the ideals of SFC. Plus your assertion only holds true to a point…for example even if Camberley Town topped their table by winning every game in the season, do you honestly think Saints would appoint their manager? (The answer is no).

Your analogy doesn't hold water as Camberley Town are not playing in the division Southampton will be in next season... Coventry are. So experience doing it at the level we will be playing is significantly more relevant. 

Edited 12 hours ago by Matthew Le God

[Saint Fan CaM]

1 minute ago, Matthew Le God said:

Your analogy doesn't hold water as Camberley Town are not playing in the division Southampton will be in next season... Coventry are. So experience doing it at the level we will be playing is significantly more relevant. 

It was an example used to show YOUR assertion was not entirely valid…please try to keep up. And anyway, if experience at the level Coventry have achieved (I.e. consistent failure) is what we can look forward to then it re-enforces my opinion that he should not be given the job. I don’t think even SR are that nuts.

[OldNick]

16 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Your analogy doesn't hold water as Camberley Town are not playing in the division Southampton will be in next season... Coventry are. So experience doing it at the level we will be playing is significantly more relevant. 

If the reporting of what Spors said that the football he wants is closer to Klopp than Pep and watching Coventrythe other night it was more likened to Nathan Jones or Dyche. A lot of high balls.

Not that im totally against 

[revolution saint]

36 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Wouldn't it be strange to not judge a manager based on the situation and resources he has available to him at the club he is at?

So he's about the same as Mark Robins then?

[AlexLaw76]

58 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

3 managers 'fail' in the play offs every season.

I suspect there are quite a lot of current managers in this position.

Either way, Lampard has performed well in the championship. 

[macca155]

Whilst there remain a few questions marks with Lampard, it does feel like he is maturing as a manager. He certainly wouldn't be the worse appointment for Saints.

However I think we are in danger of being a tad entitled, if we think he will chuck Coventry for our basket case of a club .

He'll probably hang in there with Coventry for the time being. His agent will link him with every vacant Premier League vacancy. Spurs and West Ham are bound to come up soon, and he'll be seen by many, as a good fit for both those teams.

[Matthew Le God]

2 minutes ago, macca155 said:

I think we are in danger of being a tad entitled, if we think he will chuck Coventry for our basket case of a club .

Better players and a significantly bigger budget (wages and transfer funds).

[ally_uk]

It's gonna be Will Still.. ..

[Badger]

46 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

It's gonna be Will Still.. ..

Big risk and gamble if it is, so for that sake I’m hoping it isn’t. Certainly would seem a Rasmus inspired attempt at ‘genius’ if it is.

But maybe there’s an omen here, and he’s up to the standard of our last two gingers (Bally and WGS) then who knows 

[Lee On Solent Saint]

48 minutes ago, Badger said:

Big risk and gamble if it is, so for that sake I’m hoping it isn’t. Certainly would seem a Rasmus inspired attempt at ‘genius’ if it is.

But maybe there’s an omen here, and he’s up to the standard of our last two gingers (Bally and WGS) then who knows 

I think I'd prefer him over Rohl. At least he has managed in the French and Belgian top leagues. Not that it's much of a ringing endorsement. 

[bpsaint]

1 hour ago, Badger said:

Big risk and gamble if it is, so for that sake I’m hoping it isn’t. Certainly would seem a Rasmus inspired attempt at ‘genius’ if it is.

But maybe there’s an omen here, and he’s up to the standard of our last two gingers (Bally and WGS) then who knows 

Let’s not forget Ronald Koeman!

[Matthew Le God]

1 hour ago, Badger said:

But maybe there’s an omen here, and he’s up to the standard of our last two gingers (Bally and WGS) then who knows 

You forgot these two...

 

[macca155]

3 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

Better players and a significantly bigger budget (wages and transfer funds).

Judge the better players comment in September MLG. The summer could make quite a difference.

Budget wise we should be big dogs but that doesn't always follow through.

[Miltonaggro]

9 minutes ago, bpsaint said:

Let’s not forget Ronald Koeman!

And big Dave Merrington! Saints are historically a ginger sanctuary club. 

[Chez]

On 16/05/2025 at 15:19, Matthew Le God said:

A takeover doesn't allow them to outspend us next season. Our income will still be significantly higher, so will our wage/transfer budget next season. Our squad is already a lot better than theirs.

Sure, the parachute payment means our income is higher, but if you are spending it all on a disorganised rabble of overpaid, unconfident, brow-beaten players' wages, then do we truly have an advantage? Perhaps. The same applies to the transfer budget. More to spend, but if it's not spent well, then you are not adding assets you are just adding more dead weight. 

If it's a choice between us and Wednesday, then we are probably still the more attractive option, especially after the season Wednesday had off the field, but if they are bought out, it's a whole new ball game and they could have a decent budget themselves.

Just because we managed to bounce straight back last time, it doesn't mean it's easy. Our squad on paper is certainly better than Wednesday's, but there is a massive job for the next manager to do to turn a shit show into a promotion wining side. 

[Chez]

6 hours ago, Badger said:

Of the ‘name’ managers who rely on their playing days to get management jobs I’ve always thought Lampard the most likely to make it as a manager. 

I don’t think his record is too bad, but I lost a lot of time for him with his touchline spat with Klopp which was pretty poor. And I wouldn’t be impressed if he just walked out on Coventry after a few months. 

Having said that about his record, he did oversee his Everton side losing at home to Nathan Jones! 

Hopefully just media bullshit. 
 

He has always spoken well and comes across as a bit more intelligent than the average player. Neither mean he is a good manager, but it's a start. I really liked his Derby side or a few years back. Personally, I'd be pretty happy with his appointment. We need a breath of fresh air to turn this shitshow around and he might have it in him. However, he doesn't feel like a SR manager to me. 

Edited 6 hours ago by Chez

[Badger]

7 minutes ago, Chez said:

He has always spoken well and comes across as a bit more intelligent than the average player. Neither mean he is a good manager, but it's a start. I really liked his Derby side or a few years back. Personally, I'd be pretty happy with his appointment. We need a breath of fresh air to turn this shitshow around and height have it in him. However, he doesn't feel like a SR manager to me. 

Agree with most of what you say. I didn’t think he did too badly at Chelsea given the transfer embargo they had at the time. Always felt they acted hastily in getting rid, but that’s their way.

Had we gone for him after our relegation then so be it, but walking out on Coventry for us doesn’t sit well with me should he do it. Bit like Hoddle fucking off from us at the first opportunity after we’d allowed him to resurrect his career ( even allowing his emotional pull to go back there). 

[Chez]

3 hours ago, ally_uk said:

It's gonna be Will Still.. ..

he's the fella that likes championship manager, right?

The entire industry is trying to emulate/catch up with Liverpool's massive spend on data analysis that seems to have been at the heart of their success, so you can bet any manager we employ will need to be fully invested in that element. I'm guessing Will Still will be.

[Chez]

10 minutes ago, Badger said:

Agree with most of what you say. I didn’t think he did too badly at Chelsea given the transfer embargo they had at the time. Always felt they acted hastily in getting rid, but that’s their way.

Had we gone for him after our relegation then so be it, but walking out on Coventry for us doesn’t sit well with me should he do it. Bit like Hoddle fucking off from us at the first opportunity after we’d allowed him to resurrect his career ( even allowing his emotional pull to go back there). 

good point. Coventry deserve better than having him walk this summer.

[Badger]

2 hours ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

I think I'd prefer him over Rohl. At least he has managed in the French and Belgian top leagues. Not that it's much of a ringing endorsement. 

Each to their own, but I think Rohl has the more impressive track record. 

[Suhari]

10 minutes ago, Chez said:

he's the fella that likes championship manager, right?

The entire industry is trying to emulate/catch up with Liverpool's massive spend on data analysis that seems to have been at the heart of their success, so you can bet any manager we employ will need to be fully invested in that element. I'm guessing Will Still will be.

Still be what?

[lambtiss]

1 hour ago, Suhari said:

Still be what?

Will still will still be Will Sill?

[aintforever]

1 hour ago, Badger said:

Agree with most of what you say. I didn’t think he did too badly at Chelsea given the transfer embargo they had at the time. Always felt they acted hastily in getting rid, but that’s their way.

Had we gone for him after our relegation then so be it, but walking out on Coventry for us doesn’t sit well with me should he do it. Bit like Hoddle fucking off from us at the first opportunity after we’d allowed him to resurrect his career ( even allowing his emotional pull to go back there). 

That’s just football though, Coventry wouldn’t think twice in sacking him if results were bad.

I would prefer Cooper but wouldn’t be against Lampard, I would have him over Still any day.

[The Kraken]

1 hour ago, Badger said:

Each to their own, but I think Rohl has the more impressive track record. 

I think Rohl has got potential but I’m struggling to see a track record from him.