Who do we want next as Saints manager?

[Lee On Solent Saint]

2 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

Can't moan at the club regarding Rohl. If he's not sure on coming here then he can do one.

Imagine if we waited on him, he decided to go elsewhere and in the meantime time missed out on Still as well. The club would be getting pelters.

Yep. Can't fault the club on this one for not acting quickly. 

[Badger]

3 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

Can't moan at the club regarding Rohl. If he's not sure on coming here then he can do one.

Imagine if we waited on him, he decided to go elsewhere and in the meantime time missed out on Still as well. The club would be getting pelters.

If we missed out on Still as well …. do you really see other clubs rushing to take a chance on him ? We’re the only daft bastards doing that.

This ranks with the appointment of Nathan Jones as giving someone an opportunity in a league and level above their experience. 

[Harry_SFC]

Just now, Badger said:

If we missed out on Still as well …. do you really see other clubs rushing to take a chance on him ? We’re the only daft bastards doing that.

This ranks with the appointment of Nathan Jones as giving someone an opportunity in a league and level above their experience. 

That's nonsense. I'm not pretending he is some sort of saviour for us but he would pick up another job at a decent level easily. 

[LuckyNumber7]

3 minutes ago, Badger said:

If we missed out on Still as well …. do you really see other clubs rushing to take a chance on him ? We’re the only daft bastards doing that.

This ranks with the appointment of Nathan Jones as giving someone an opportunity in a league and level above their experience. 

If we don't get Still, there will be plenty of interest from Championship clubs (he turned down Sunderland last year), possibly PL clubs too.

He's had several years managing successfully in the French top flight, I don't know how that's comparable to Mad Nate. Still would be a bit of a coup, I think some people need to realise we're no longer a PL club.

[CSA96]

6 minutes ago, Badger said:

If we missed out on Still as well …. do you really see other clubs rushing to take a chance on him ? We’re the only daft bastards doing that.

This ranks with the appointment of Nathan Jones as giving someone an opportunity in a league and level above their experience. 

Sunderland offered him their job last summer and he turned it down

[Badger]

4 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

That's nonsense. I'm not pretending he is some sort of saviour for us but he would pick up another job at a decent level easily. 

Maybe, perhaps a Norwich or Swansea. Mid-table Championship with an outside chance of a run at promotion.

We start next season, with the advantage of parachute payments, and are a relatively attractive option in that league. But that is dependent on making the right player recruitment. Any such advantage could easily be frittered away with the wrong managerial appointment (whether it’s inexperience or just wrong candidate). 

[skintsaint]

13 minutes ago, Badger said:

This ranks with the appointment of Nathan Jones as giving someone an opportunity in a league and level above their experience. 

Think he has better credentials than Martin when he got the job, and he scraped us up.

[Appy]

9 minutes ago, Badger said:

Maybe, perhaps a Norwich or Swansea. Mid-table Championship with an outside chance of a run at promotion.

We start next season, with the advantage of parachute payments, and are a relatively attractive option in that league. But that is dependent on making the right player recruitment. Any such advantage could easily be frittered away with the wrong managerial appointment (whether it’s inexperience or just wrong candidate). 

Listen to the Laurens interview, if you still think all this after, then there’s nothing else to say. 

[BarryVenisonsHair]

4 hours ago, Matthew Le God said:

Those are not the last three. You missed Mark Wotte.

Plus Dave Merrington and Harry Redknapp came after Alan Ball.

Bet you're fun at parties 

[Matthew Le God]

2 minutes ago, BarryVenisonsHair said:

Bet you're fun at parties 

You'll always find me in the kitchen

[E_H_Saints]

25 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Yep. Can't fault the club on this one for not acting quickly. 

If he was a player we would say march on. If you don't want to be here we don't want you.  Fighting for him regardless of what they are saying would be easier if he was acting like this was the club for him.   Keeping his options open isn't someone you want to pay a fee for to get him released from a contract.  

[CSA96]

 

[Matthew Le God]

 

 

[Football Special]

6 hours ago, BarryVenisonsHair said:

The three last managers we had that were ginger didn't turn out too badly...Koeman, Strachan and Ball. I'll take a punt in William Stilliam. 

Ah we're going to have fans in ginger wigs again aren't we, I'd forgotten about that in the Strachan days 

[Willo of Whiteley]

5 minutes ago, CSA96 said:

 

Has anyone checked in on DT?

Is he still upset we didn’t pay up £3m for Danny Rohl - the coach who seemingly wasn’t interested?

[macca155]

Totally support the club re Rohl. The guy isn't that great a catch. If he wants to play silly buggers he can foxtrot.

Very few of us know much about Will. Certainly not enough to make any judgements. 

However unless the club have a major clear out, he will be dealing with a lot of toxicity in the dressing room. A lethal combination of bruised egos, and a losing ethos. There will be some players the club don't want, and they don't want to be here. Problem will be no one else will want them either.

Why the hell they are letting him see the Arsenal game is beyond me. He better have signed by then.

[Football Special]

2 minutes ago, macca155 said:

Totally support the club re Rohl. The guy isn't that great a catch. If he wants to play silly buggers he can foxtrot.

Very few of us know much about Will. Certainly not enough to make any judgements. 

However unless the club have a major clear out, he will be dealing with a lot of toxicity in the dressing room. A lethal combination of bruised egos, and a losing ethos. There will be some players the club don't want, and they don't want to be here. Problem will be no one else will want them either.

Why the hell they are letting him see the Arsenal game is beyond me. He better have signed by then.

I agree with you, but hope he doesn't start talking about scar tissue 

[ErwinK1961]

I’m sure he’s already got something lined up, but would be quite funny if Rohl ended up with nothing else, and going cap in hand back to Wednesday for next season.

[Pilchards]

Clearly offered Rohl the job, not sure if it was down to the compensation but I agree we need to move on especially with him stalling.

The more I read about Will Still the more impressed I am but the important thing is he’s allowed to bring his own players in and not the shit Sports Republic get.

 

[sockeye]

3 minutes ago, Pilchards said:

The more I read about Will Still the more impressed I am but the important thing is he’s allowed to bring his own players in and not the shit Sports Republic get.

I disagree, we have an experienced DoF in now, we should use his expertise.

Letting Martin have too much input on signings was a disaster.

[Matthew Le God]

9 minutes ago, Pilchards said:

The more I read about Will Still the more impressed I am but the important thing is he’s allowed to bring his own players in and not the shit Sports Republic get.

The recruitment department is very different for the next window. Harsh to judge them on the mistakes of those they replaced.

Edited 16 hours ago by Matthew Le God

[Turkish]

Will still is the name I’m ahead of game

Representing championship managers all across the world

Still - checking them stats and the speadsheets girl

Still - taking my time to perfect XG

and I still fucking hate Pompey 

[Appy]

 

[woodsaint1]

Will be funny when Rohl has to trot back to Wednesday's training ground next month looking very silly. Unless some Saudi team takes a gamble on him. He's not the hot prospect he thinks he is. And all the shite about 'he knows the club', he was here for about 8 months and that was 6 years ago

#WillStillsRedandWhiteArmy

[bpsaint]

Getting the Still deal done before this season has even finished will be encouraging with regards to prep for next season, that’s practically a month earlier than we got Martin in the door two summers ago.

As long as his starting lineup for the first game in August doesn’t contain Bazunu, Smallbone or Stephens I’ll give him my full support.

Edited 16 hours ago by bpsaint

[goodymatt]

3 minutes ago, Appy said:

 

There is a cringey footy chant in there somewhere and I’m all for it.

[Farmer Saint]

10 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

There is a cringey footy chant in there somewhere and I’m all for it.

Grease themed one...

"You're the Will that I want (you are the Will I want), Will, Will Still, honey!"

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, LuckyNumber7 said:

If we don't get Still, there will be plenty of interest from Championship clubs (he turned down Sunderland last year), possibly PL clubs too.

He's had several years managing successfully in the French top flight, I don't know how that's comparable to Mad Nate. Still would be a bit of a coup, I think some people need to realise we're no longer a PL club.

Coming around to this perspective. He’s a level now above where Martin was and arguably still is tbh. And miles ahead of Nathan Jones.

Rohl has the EFL experience Still doesn’t which is an advantage but even though Chansiri is a nutcase, some of Rohl’s press conferences have been a bit concerning. Only 4 years older as well, although more coachinh pedigree. It’s a moot point as he seems to be expecting a Bundesliga job this summer. Might be a bit ambitious from mid-table Champ even at a basket case club not to mention the hefty overall release package.

EDIT - just seen the prospective Sheff Weds takeover. As we know all too well, American tycoon takeovers don’t always materialise, but might be worth him hanging around a few weeks to see.

Edited 15 hours ago by Gloucester Saint

[James G]

We've got Still, and Saints are flying. And we're oozing control.....

Based on the Grease theme

Edited 15 hours ago by James G

[rallyboy]

Is it time for the 'brave' appointment of a manager untried at this level?
Probably not, it all sounds a bit Jones/Martin/Juric, but the law of averages says we've got to stumble upon a good one eventually so let's hope it's him -  I'll give him until he picks his first team before calling for his removal.

 

[Colinjb]

Still, Haven't found.... what i'm looking for......

#pessimism

 

 

Delighted to be linked with him mind.

Edited 15 hours ago by Colinjb

[James G]

p.s. Rohl isn't about money completely, it's a time thing, sooner than later. Just reading the bbc story

[pimpin4rizeal]

37 minutes ago, Pilchards said:

Clearly offered Rohl the job, not sure if it was down to the compensation but I agree we need to move on especially with him stalling.

The more I read about Will Still the more impressed I am but the important thing is he’s allowed to bring his own players in and not the shit Sports Republic get.

 

Prefer still to rohl myself .. he’s done well at more clubs .. looks adaptable which is great after the past couple .I don’t like the this is the way we bollocks and still seems to want to always adapt which also makes us less predictable ..

I know I’m usually on my own with this kind of stuff but it does bug me though that still seems to have a dream of managing West Ham ..they seem in a bad spot since moyes left and could move in very quickly if still is doing well here 

[CSA96]

8 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Prefer still to rohl myself .. he’s done well at more clubs .. looks adaptable which is great after the past couple .I don’t like the this is the way we bollocks and still seems to want to always adapt which also makes us less predictable ..

I know I’m usually on my own with this kind of stuff but it does bug me though that still seems to have a dream of managing West Ham ..they seem in a bad spot since moyes left and could move in very quickly if still is doing well here 

Seeing a Saints manager get hunted by a PL club because he's done well enough to impress one would make a refreshing change, at this point

[Scoobysaint]

Hoping we can get Still appointed. He has an achieved more than Rohl has and you’ve got to question the sanity of any fan who thinks its a Mad Nate style appointment. Listened to Still on a “high performance” podcast today and my only concern is that he is so ambitious. If this works out, I don’t think he would be here for that long. 

[Morse]

All those saying how impressed they are with Still, can they expand on it a bit. It's a genuine question because I can't see anything at all exceptional. Taking Lens to 8th in he French league seems his highlight. Whoopee. 

[CSA96]

6 minutes ago, Morse said:

All those saying how impressed they are with Still, can they expand on it a bit. It's a genuine question because I can't see anything at all exceptional. Taking Lens to 8th in he French league seems his highlight. Whoopee. 

Why don't you do some reading/watching? I'm not seeing the word 'exceptional' flying around from the community on here, but it's not hard to understand why people are cautiously optimistic or open-minded to him being the next coach

As a young English coach who has done well for himself overseas - more than once - while in one 'main' European top divisions, against superior opposition, in his late 20s / early 30s, his stock is rising and it's not hard to understand that people might be fine/optimistic with him as a hire for a second division side in England

Edited 15 hours ago by CSA96

[Morse]

1 minute ago, CSA96 said:

Why don't you do some reading/watching? I'm not seeing the word 'exceptional' flying around from the community on here, but it's not hard to understand why people are cautiously optimistic or open-minded to him being the next coach

As a young English coach who has done well for himself overseas - more than once - while coaching in one 'main' European top divisions, against superior opposition, in his late 20s and early 30s, his stock is rising and it's not hard to understand that people might be impressed with him as a hire for a second division side in England

He's got a good PR that's for sure. 

Facts are he has never played professional football. By his own admission he learnt football management on a computer game. His best achievement in football is 8th in a league the level of the Championship at best, but I agree he talks a good game. And BTW, is was born and brought up in Belgium to English parents, so your description of him as a young English manager doing well overseas is stretching it a bit. 

[The very right reverend]

1 hour ago, sockeye said:

I disagree, we have an experienced DoF in now, we should use his expertise.

Letting Martin have too much input on signings was a disaster.

Bree.

[CSA96]

19 minutes ago, Morse said:

He's got a good PR that's for sure. 

Facts are he has never played professional football. By his own admission he learnt football management on a computer game. His best achievement in football is 8th in a league the level of the Championship at best, but I agree he talks a good game. And BTW, is was born and brought up in Belgium to English parents, so your description of him as a young English manager doing well overseas is stretching it a bit. 

Congrats, I think you got the full bingo card of lazy comments in that one 

- I couldn't give a rat's arse if he hasn't played professional football; Terry, Gerrard, Rooney had great careers and I wouldn't want any of them in charge
- Players will judge him by the quality of his sessions, the advice he gives the team and how he handles them as people; I know players who have played for guys with amazing playing careers and they've turned round and said 'he couldn't coach for shit and his assistants had to do everything'
- He didn't 'learn football management on a computer game' he went into analysis and coaching early and did his badges and worked his way up. He also played the Football Manager video games in his spare time. Maybe he even broadened some of his knowledge in the process. However, feel free to find me any bloke in their early 30s who loves football and hasn't played a football video game, be it FM, Pro Evo, FIFA... whatever. It's just a new generation of people arriving in their 30s and starting to get coaching jobs now
- Ligue 1 getting called 'the level of the Championship' is really laughable. PSG, Lyon, Marseille, Monaco, Lille, Nice are equivalent to Champ clubs? I don't think so
- He grew up in Belgium, yes, because his Dad moved his wife and kids for a job over there but has repeatedly said England is 'home' to him, he speaks native English and his entire family is English

So yes, he has done quite well for a young English coach working overseas, it's not really up for debate. He hasn't stunned the footballing world with an outstanding achievement as yet, he hasn't won a trophy, but to belittle his career with lazy tropes is a bit boring and just suggests you're not paying attention
 

Edited 14 hours ago by CSA96

[CB Fry]

It's all the dithering I can't stand.

[verlaine1979]

It's just bizarre to claim that the Championship is a higher level of football than Ligue 1. The Champ is inferior on pretty much every single metric.

[BarberSaint]

He's a West Ham fan which is why he'd like to manage them one day.

[Smirking_Saint]

6 hours ago, Appy said:

He’s got to watch us play? Poor bloke 

[Smirking_Saint]

Will Still’s the one 

Still’s the one we cheer for

The only ginger we adore

Will Still’s playing FM tonight

 

Will Still’s the one

Will Stills the manager for me

He fucking hates Pompey

Will Stills in red and white

[Zorba]

[Zorba]

2 hours ago, James G said:

We've got Still, and Saints are flying. And we're oozing control.....

Based on the Grease theme

more like.. 

We’ve got Still, the goals are flying in, and we’re losing 4-nil.

[Charlie Wayman]

Depressing thread. Feeding on scraps. How the mighty have fallen.

[DT]

It’s not too late to get a manager with (check notes) experience of the Championship rather than yet another appointment that makes the appointees into some kind of genius if it comes off. Not that any of the ‘clever clever’ left field reinventing football ones have. Talking about a video on Monday Night Football isn’t enough for me. We’ll see how the players take to him - they’re so confused by all these systems. Should have gone old school. 

[Sir Ralph]

9 hours ago, CSA96 said:

Why don't you do some reading/watching? I'm not seeing the word 'exceptional' flying around from the community on here, but it's not hard to understand why people are cautiously optimistic or open-minded to him being the next coach

As a young English coach who has done well for himself overseas - more than once - while in one 'main' European top divisions, against superior opposition, in his late 20s / early 30s, his stock is rising and it's not hard to understand that people might be fine/optimistic with him as a hire for a second division side in England

Im excited - this guy has pulled teams in bad situations into good situations on a number of occasions. He has achieved over and above in every job role. Arguably has achieved more than Danny Rohl as a manager