Tonda Eckert

[Harry_SFC]

4 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

The idea that it is a "mythical" idea that anyone could do better than a 32 year old novice is utterly insane to me.

Top scorer in the division, some of the Championship's best players all across the park but no one could do any better than Tonda fucking Eckert.

 

Of course these same bullshitters who six months ago didn't even know Tonda existed are now making out no other person on the planet could do any better. Full of shit lads.

 

The defence is pretty shit (even then he's picking the more shit players) but other than that he, like Still is massively underachieving.

Who in their right mind plays the divisions best winger as a wing back? Why is Scienza basically playing as a central midfielder? How on earth does he keep picking Manning? 

Brilliant decisions on Saturday. Brings on Stewart who is good from crosses but takes off Fellows who is the best crosser in the team. I mean WTF!?

A cardboard cut out would inspire me more than this bloke. 

[AlexLaw76]

13 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

The idea that it is a "mythical" idea that anyone could do better than a 32 year old novice is utterly insane to me.

Top scorer in the division, some of the Championship's best players all across the park but no one could do any better than Tonda fucking Eckert.

 

Of course these same bullshitters who six months ago didn't even know Tonda existed are now making out no other person on the planet could do any better. Full of shit lads.

 

I am not having it. Players like Fellows and Scienza are cooking playing Right Wing Back and Inside Left...

no other way

[Badger]

42 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

Brilliant decisions on Saturday. Brings on Stewart who is good from crosses but takes off Fellows who is the best crosser in the team. I mean WTF!?

A cardboard cut out would inspire me more than this bloke. 

Typifies the thinking at SFC fromtop to bottom. It’s just not joined up

Edited 21 hours ago by Badger

[Saint Gifford]

 All venture capital businesses have an exit strategy. 
 

SR is just a that, invest, change the board and put in your own people, cost cut, asset strip and sell what remains. Making a huge amount of money in the process. 
 

It’s clear something has gone wrong in their process, and can no longer recoup or make as much money as they thought. 
 

They are not here because they have Southampton FC running through their veins and have been watching since they were 5 or 6. It’s a business to them and they have fcuk’d up. 

It’s now a matter of how much can we get back, because the investment has completely failed. 
 

They will either cut their losses which they won’t do, but will hang on until they can wring out every last penny from what ever bit of the club they can. 
 

They appear to be in far deeper than they expected. 

[Wade Garrett]

38 minutes ago, Saint Gifford said:

 All venture capital businesses have an exit strategy. 
 

SR is just a that, invest, change the board and put in your own people, cost cut, asset strip and sell what remains. Making a huge amount of money in the process. 
 

It’s clear something has gone wrong in their process, and can no longer recoup or make as much money as they thought. 
 

They are not here because they have Southampton FC running through their veins and have been watching since they were 5 or 6. It’s a business to them and they have fcuk’d up. 

It’s now a matter of how much can we get back, because the investment has completely failed. 
 

They will either cut their losses which they won’t do, but will hang on until they can wring out every last penny from what ever bit of the club they can. 
 

They appear to be in far deeper than they expected. 

My heart pumps piss for them.  I hope they lose the fucking lot.

[CB Fry]

52 minutes ago, Saint Gifford said:

 All venture capital businesses have an exit strategy. 
 

SR is just a that, invest, change the board and put in your own people, cost cut, asset strip and sell what remains. Making a huge amount of money in the process. 
 

It’s clear something has gone wrong in their process, and can no longer recoup or make as much money as they thought. 
 

They are not here because they have Southampton FC running through their veins and have been watching since they were 5 or 6. It’s a business to them and they have fcuk’d up. 

It’s now a matter of how much can we get back, because the investment has completely failed. 
 

They will either cut their losses which they won’t do, but will hang on until they can wring out every last penny from what ever bit of the club they can. 
 

They appear to be in far deeper than they expected. 

They are not asset strippers and they haven't asset stripped.

I don't know why people are so quick the grasp for that phrase and that assessment when it doesn't match anything our owners have done at all.

If anything they have invested - in the ground, in the match experience, in the training ground, in the squad, on the pitch. They've spent and spent and spent.

You've decided to create a fiction of evil owners who are "wringing out every last penny" when that bears no resemblance to anything they have said or done.

They've made some terrible mistakes, especially on managers.

But that isn't "asset stripping" and it isn't "wringing every last penny".

What club and what owners are you talking about here?

Edited 20 hours ago by CB Fry

[Willo of Whiteley]

BuT oUr xG pEr GaMe!!!!!

[saintant]

7 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

They are not asset strippers and they haven't asset stripped.

I don't know why people are so quick the grasp for that phrase and that assessment when it doesn't match anything our owners have done at all.

If anything they have invested - in the ground, in the match experience in the training ground, in the squad, on the pitch. They've spent and spent and spent.

You've decided to create a fiction of evil owners who are "wringing out every last penny" when that bears no resemblance to anything they have said or done.

They've made some terrible mistakes, especially on managers.

But that isn't "asset stripping" and it isn't "wringing every last penny".

What club and what owners are you talking about here?

Agree. They are neither an adventure capital business nor asset strippers. What they are is a bunch of incompetent clowns who listened to Ankersen's big ideas. He sold them the dream and they now find themselves floundering out of their depth in a business they know the square root of diddly squat about.  I don't think they have an exit strategy but Ankersen probably continues to lead them by the nose because his ego won't allow him to admit defeat and quit.

[Willo of Whiteley]

They won’t sack him until play offs are mathematically impossible.

Like Juric when we were relegated last season.

[BotleySaint]

33 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

They won’t sack him until play offs are mathematically impossible.

Like Juric when we were relegated last season.

Or when this seasons relegation is confirmed.

Edited 19 hours ago by BotleySaint

[sadoldgit]

Someone help me please. I hear a lot about playing 5 at the back but if you have 3 CBs and 2 wing halves, surely that is 3 at the back?

4 across the back, 2 CBs and 2 FBs gives you more defensive strength doesn’t it, assuming that the wing halves play further up the pitch?

Asking for a friend (TE).

[Football Special]

54 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

They are not asset strippers and they haven't asset stripped.

I don't know why people are so quick the grasp for that phrase and that assessment when it doesn't match anything our owners have done at all.

If anything they have invested - in the ground, in the match experience, in the training ground, in the squad, on the pitch. They've spent and spent and spent.

You've decided to create a fiction of evil owners who are "wringing out every last penny" when that bears no resemblance to anything they have said or done.

They've made some terrible mistakes, especially on managers.

But that isn't "asset stripping" and it isn't "wringing every last penny".

What club and what owners are you talking about here?

The question is what is their objective? If it's to build a successful football club then clearly they will never be competent enough to do that. 

[Dark Munster]

43 minutes ago, saintant said:

Agree. They are neither an adventure capital business nor asset strippers. What they are is a bunch of incompetent clowns who listened to Ankersen's big ideas. He sold them the dream and they now find themselves floundering out of their depth in a business they know the square root of diddly squat about.  I don't think they have an exit strategy but Ankersen probably continues to lead them by the nose because his ego won't allow him to admit defeat and quit.

Excellent summary. I wish Dragan could read this and get it through his thick skull. I think he's suffering from classic sunk cost fallacy. Rasmus sold him the bullshit that he could fund a new Man City, and if he cuts him loose now he has to admit (to himself) that he's been sold up the river by a fraud.

[Dr. Kucho]

23 minutes ago, Football Special said:

The question is what is their objective? If it's to build a successful football club then clearly they will never be competent enough to do that. 

Their objective is to make money, like all other football club owners (on the exception of a few who have a connection to the club they own).

I think what happened is that Ankersen and Kraft approached various businessmen with their plan and Dragan decided to go for it. Someone told me the other day that Danish football club Midjiland (spelling) do everything with data. And guess who was their chairman. 

Likely Ankersen had a plan that using the latest data software systems they could outsmart other clubs who dont use it and make money with player trading and finishing high up in the league. It all worked at Brentford and would work again they thought. Problem was that in the premier league you need big money and they relied too much on data and didn’t use their common sense.

Dragan has a few options, sell and accept a loss, continue and hope it works out or replace Ankersen and others and bring in experienced football chairman and directors. 

These are my thoughts and I could be wrong in how I think it went.

[you muppets]

Tonda    out

[Football Special]

Great to see more recruits from our favourite league Bundesliga 2

 

[Wade Garrett]

1 hour ago, Football Special said:

Great to see more recruits from our favourite league Bundesliga 2

 

Just what we need.  Another geek who has never kicked a ball to join the other nerds in Spors broom cupboard.

What a fucking joke this club is.  

[Harry_SFC]

What's the need for analysts when Tonda doesn't change anything? All feels a bit pointless. 

[coalman]

1 hour ago, Football Special said:

Great to see more recruits from our favourite league Bundesliga 2

 

This is some of the real lasting harm the way we operate does. Our turnover and managers means no stability across the board (including the U21 coaches we've thrown to the wolves). Then each successive "leader" brings in their own people who remain after they've left. Anyone good gets to move to a better place and we're left with the dross. It's the Dead Sea Effect in action. The trouble is that our high turnover and poor recruitment of people means we accumulate mediocre people faster than good people and the few good people we luck into are gone in a heartbeat leaving us with a growing pool of mediocrity. At which point the mediocre entrench themselves to preserve the status quo. 

Paraphrased from (https://brucefwebster.com/2008/04/11/the-wetware-crisis-the-dead-sea-effect/)

But in my experience, that’s not what happens. Instead, what happens is that the more talented people are the ones most likely to leave — to evaporate, if you will. They are the ones least likely to put up with the frequent stupidities and workplace problems that plague large organizations; they are also the ones most likely to have other opportunities that they can readily move to.

What tends to remain behind is the ‘residue’ — the least talented and effective people. They tend to be grateful they have a job and make fewer demands on management; even if they find the workplace unpleasant, they are the least likely to be able to find a job elsewhere. They tend to entrench themselves, ..., assuming responsibilities that no one else wants so that the organization can’t afford to let them go.

[tdmickey3]

1 hour ago, Football Special said:

Great to see more recruits from our favourite league Bundesliga 2

 

Wow!!!

We are really going places now..... Great work and will make all the difference, just what we need

 

[Willo of Whiteley]

Why hire an analyst to state the problems.

Us fans have been doing it for free, on mass, for years.

[Saint NL]

1 minute ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Why hire an analyst to state the problems.

Us fans have been doing it for free, on mass, for years.

He can charge a fortune to write them a 28 page detailed analysis with a full breakdown of the issues.

I'll summarise the document for us all: xG too low, lol

[Suhari]

1 hour ago, Harry_SFC said:

What's the need for analysts when Tonda doesn't change anything? All feels a bit pointless. 

Nail. Head.

We analyse the shit out of things, and the only change Hungry Eyes makes is Quarshie for Stephens.

[Turkish]

2 hours ago, Football Special said:

Great to see more recruits from our favourite league Bundesliga 2

 

this is a real statement of intent!

[Football Special]

1 hour ago, Wade Garrett said:

Just what we need.  Another geek who has never kicked a ball to join the other nerds in Spors broom cupboard.

What a fucking joke this club is.  

You have no idea! Show some respect! 

We are building a team of some of footballs greatest mathematical minds in Spors broom cupboard, it will make the Enigma code look like basic primary school maths once it is finished , great longterm vision from the club. 

It's also just coincidence we do all our recruitment from Germany where Spors just happens to live 

 

Edited 9 hours ago by Football Special

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, Wade Garrett said:

Just what we need.  Another geek who has never kicked a ball to join the other nerds in Spors broom cupboard.

What a fucking joke this club is.  

I thought the garden centre boy was the first team analyst now? He got promoted recently into the role. 

[Football Special]

3 minutes ago, Turkish said:

I thought the garden centre boy was the first team analyst now? He got promoted recently into the role. 

I understand his role is to coordinate gardening leave for the increasing number of staff trying to leave 

Edited 9 hours ago by Football Special

[Gloucester Saint]

Southampton Football Club is providing far more entertainment and humour with the ineptitude and fuck ups from Ankerson, Spors and Tonda off the pitch than on, where watching is like being anaesthetised.

The Manager is analyst with no practical football experience, so are 99% of the people around him. I know, we’ll hire another analyst. 

Great…

 

[Football Special]

1 hour ago, coalman said:

This is some of the real lasting harm the way we operate does. Our turnover and managers means no stability across the board (including the U21 coaches we've thrown to the wolves). Then each successive "leader" brings in their own people who remain after they've left. Anyone good gets to move to a better place and we're left with the dross. It's the Dead Sea Effect in action. The trouble is that our high turnover and poor recruitment of people means we accumulate mediocre people faster than good people and the few good people we luck into are gone in a heartbeat leaving us with a growing pool of mediocrity. At which point the mediocre entrench themselves to preserve the status quo. 

Paraphrased from (https://brucefwebster.com/2008/04/11/the-wetware-crisis-the-dead-sea-effect/)

But in my experience, that’s not what happens. Instead, what happens is that the more talented people are the ones most likely to leave — to evaporate, if you will. They are the ones least likely to put up with the frequent stupidities and workplace problems that plague large organizations; they are also the ones most likely to have other opportunities that they can readily move to.

What tends to remain behind is the ‘residue’ — the least talented and effective people. They tend to be grateful they have a job and make fewer demands on management; even if they find the workplace unpleasant, they are the least likely to be able to find a job elsewhere. They tend to entrench themselves, ..., assuming responsibilities that no one else wants so that the organization can’t afford to let them go.

We're definitely damaging a lot of careers, I know last season Simon Rusk was happy as u21 coach for example and would probably still be there now if he hadn't been pushed into first team caretaker role then moved on , such a shambles and makes a poor environment behind the scenes 

[Dman]

I know they're a dieing breed now, but what we need is a manager, not a coach.

An old school manager who controls pretty much all aspects of the playing side the club, like we had with Koeman when we needed a rebuild and to a degree the same with Ralph.

There is place for a DOF and head coach, as seen by Brighton, Brentford etc. but we're an unstable club at the minute who needs a total rebuild with a strong figure head to lead it. 

I have no idea where we turn to from here. 

[S-Clarke]

There are still people who have a tiny bit of hope that SR will realise, or Dragan at least. But surley that news puts paid to that?

We're 16th in the league, haven't won in 7, just lost to Hull, have a team full of awful characters and a kid manager with kid coaches. So they appoint a Data Analyst. 

They're not changing, it won't ever change. They need to go, it's the only way we see change. 

[coalman]

7 minutes ago, Turkish said:

I thought the garden centre boy was the first team analyst now? He got promoted recently into the role. 

The more people you add to your echo chamber the louder the echo.

[Football Special]

2 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Southampton Football Club is providing far more entertainment and humour with the ineptitude and fuck ups from Ankerson, Spors and Tonda off the pitch than on, where watching is like being anaesthetised.

The Manager is analyst with no practical football experience, so are 99% of the people around him. I know, we’ll hire another analyst. 

Great…

 

It would make a fantastic fly on the wall documentary, "Carry On Football" 

[Dman]

Just now, Football Special said:

We're definitely damaging a lot of careers, I know last season Simon Rusk was happy as u21 coach for example and would probably still be there now if he hadn't been pushed into first team caretaker role then moved on , such a shambles and makes a poor environment behind the scenes 

To be fair, Rusk's days were probably numbered from the minute Spoors walked through the door. He clearly wanted to employ Tonda with a view of him stepping up at some point in the future. 

[ally_uk]

You don’t need an analyst to tell you we’re dogshit, What is it with modern football. A bunch of dweebs sat busting nuts over xG and spreadsheets while the game dies in front of them.

What’s next. Some suit after the game saying “Well we’d have won today if the symmetry of the blades of grass was correct.”

Why do people overcomplicate football. Set the team up properly. Put players in their best positions.

Try to score more than the opposition. No trying to be clever. No wonky passing it back. None of this wannabe Man City bollocks.

Anyway, I digress. What I can’t get my head around is this. We appoint Tonda and we’re flying. The football is quick, direct, players look up for it. So how the hell have we regressed so quickly?

Is it the players thinking “Right, we’ve done our bit, let’s take it easy now.”

Or is it someone above Tonda saying “Whoa, slow it down. We’re winning games here. Can’t have that. Five at the back from now on and tone your input down.”

Or did Tonda just get lucky. Was it a fluke?

Some of the recent decisions look a bit odd, but then I watched the Hull highlights and we had plenty of chances. On another day, with better finishing, we could’ve won that. Are we overreacting?

[Football Special]

2 minutes ago, Dman said:

To be fair, Rusk's days were probably numbered from the minute Spoors walked through the door. He clearly wanted to employ Tonda with a view of him stepping up at some point in the future. 

This is correct, needed him gone to create the position for Tactical Tonda 

Edited 9 hours ago by Football Special

[Wade Garrett]

22 minutes ago, Football Special said:

You have no idea! Show some respect! 

We are building a team of some of footballs greatest mathematical minds in Spors broom cupboard, it will make the Enigma code look like basic primary school maths once it is finished , great longterm vision from the club. 

It's also just coincidence we do all our recruitment from Germany where Spors just happens to live 

I swear if Stephen Hawking was still alive the useless cunts would sign him as our new centre forward.

[Doctoroncall]

24 minutes ago, Turkish said:

this is a real statement of intent!

https://youtu.be/DbyrOBVDtR4?si=Rxm095RUDu2hbzpa

[coalman]

Just now, Wade Garrett said:

I swear if Stephen Hawking was still alive the useless cunts would sign him as our new centre forward.

He'd still be more likely to head in a cross than Armstrong.

[saintant]

41 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Southampton Football Club is providing far more entertainment and humour with the ineptitude and fuck ups from Ankerson, Spors and Tonda off the pitch than on, where watching is like being anaesthetised.

The Manager is analyst with no practical football experience, so are 99% of the people around him. I know, we’ll hire another analyst. 

Great…

 

Assuming the new analyst analyses the old analyst who the fuck analyses the new analyst? Presumably they'll have to employ a new, new analyst but then who is going to analyse him? They really haven't thought this through.  

[Saint86]

14 hours ago, washsaint said:

Everyone seems to think that TOnda is the problem - I dont believe he is.

These arsewipes of players played well for 6 or 7 games then reverted back to their pathetic Martin-ball style after he got the gig.

At some stage people have to realize  that it is a core of players that appear to be the problem and, until these bad eggs are out of the club (whoever they are). nothing is going to change irespective of who the manager is.

Tonda, Still, Juric, Rusk, Selles, Hassenhuttl (at the end) all had the same issues.

The fact that Tonda trusts the younger players like Bragg, Williams and others makes me hope he will be the right guy for the reset at the end of the season.  Let's face it, anyone who wants us to go up this year is bonkers.  It would only paper over the cracks and next season would be even more horrific than last season.

Hi Tonda.... 

[Mboto Gorge]

Looking forward to the data this new geek spews out when we get stuffed at Fratton on Sunday. Should really iron out the problems 

[S-Clarke]

14 hours ago, washsaint said:

Everyone seems to think that TOnda is the problem - I dont believe he is.

These arsewipes of players played well for 6 or 7 games then reverted back to their pathetic Martin-ball style after he got the gig.

At some stage people have to realize  that it is a core of players that appear to be the problem and, until these bad eggs are out of the club (whoever they are). nothing is going to change irespective of who the manager is.

Tonda, Still, Juric, Rusk, Selles, Hassenhuttl (at the end) all had the same issues.

The fact that Tonda trusts the younger players like Bragg, Williams and others makes me hope he will be the right guy for the reset at the end of the season.  Let's face it, anyone who wants us to go up this year is bonkers.  It would only paper over the cracks and next season would be even more horrific than last season.

If you're looking at the bigger picture, then no, Tonda isn't exclusively the problem. The problem is much larger than Tonda, just like it was much larger than Will Still.

Tonda is just another example in SR's crusade to try to be clever fuckers. He has been thrown in well ahead of his time, he knows it, but who is going to turn that down? So whilst Tonda is going to bear a lot of frustration from the fans, and rightly so in some aspects, the bigger issue are the people who thought it was OK to put this 32 year old into this position in the first place.

[BotleySaint]

This latest appointment could be subtle the confirmation they aren't even thinking about sacking Tonda. Regardless of what happens in the next week.

They think simply bolstering the team around him with also-ran analysts will help prop up the puppet and improve the product.

Trying to run the club like a tech company.

Edited 8 hours ago by BotleySaint

[Saint86]

15 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Ralph had run out of legs. The squad was completely different to now, and it was something that he kept, what had become of the squad, up in the premier league.

Rusk - Caretaker and not a premier league (or championship) manager

Selles - joke

Still - no real record, or experience, to manage an ex-premier league side about to have a massive turn over of players. He will have a good career, just completely the wrong time for us

Tonda - joke

Juric - he can't come in with his style at that time and how the team were used to playing. Just can't. Had he joined pre-season and stayed true to himself with the board, maybe he would have done well at Saints.

 

The main problem are clearly the owners/Dragan. They/he are fucking useless and have created an environment where the completely obvious wrong decisions are constantly made.

This in spades.

As for Ralph, imo he had a worse squad (fitness/availability wise) than we have now - when you consider that Lavia, Tino, KWP were all out injured.

This was his last ever starting 11 (the 1-4 loss to newcastle).

A younger Baz worse - i.e., than this season.

Larios - nowhere near prem (or even championship) standard

ABK (fitness and attitude issues, not committed).

Salisu (okay, better than current cb's, but equally not committed)

Perraud - better than current LWBs, shame we lost him tbh.

Midfield:

AMN - Awful

JWP - At this time, he was better than any CM we currently have without question. Probably still is. Plus Set Pieces.

Stu - Very tidy player for us obviously. Although not sure he was better then than say Fellows or Scienza, and possibly not better than Azaz (on the few times where we actually use Azaz properly... 🤦‍♂️)

Enlyounossu - Really shows how thing the squad was under ralph, worse player than Fellows, Scienza, and azaz.

Attack:

Walcott - At that point in his career, no chance he's better than Fellows or Scienza are currently as a winger, and AA is a better striker...

Adams - Not a better striker than AA imo, but different obviously - and he fills a niche we need filling today (although stewart is a better player for this role when actually fit).

The fact that Ralph had that squad in contention to stay up in the premier league is a testament to how good he was. The fact that a succession of managers under SR have failed to keep better squads either in the premier league, or even fighting for the playoffs this season, is a testament to just how badly managed we've been since, and how much harm SR are doing with awful managerial appointments.
 

 

Edited 7 hours ago by Saint86

[DT]

I'll save that new analyst some time.

We're shit, with terrible players, a manager who has no experience, and with a toxic underbelly of cliqueyness and no grounding in the basics of playing football or team spirit. But it's okay because Rasmus Ankersen.

[disconnect]

Just now, DT said:

I'll save that new analyst some time.

We're shit, with terrible players, a manager who has no experience, and with a toxic underbelly of cliqueyness and no grounding in the basics of playing football or team spirit. But it's okay because Rasmus Ankersen.

with some terrible players, but a squad who overall have the ability to be doing far better than they are if they were managed properly and the best players picked in their correct positions.

[DT]

2 minutes ago, disconnect said:

with some terrible players, but a squad who overall have the ability to be doing far better than they are if they were managed properly and the best players picked in their correct positions.

Well that is true. But every week they stay with us and our coaches, they get worse. Not least because they are being played out of position and with a manager with less backbone than a jellyfish.

[Harry_SFC]

46 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

This in spades.

As for Ralph, imo he had a worse squad (fitness/availability wise) than we have now - when you consider that Lavia, Tino, KWP were all out injured.

This was his last ever starting 11 (the 1-4 loss to newcastle).

A younger Baz worse - i.e., than this season.

Larios - nowhere near prem (or even championship) standard

ABK (fitness and attitude issues, not committed).

Salisu (okay, better than current cb's, but equally not committed)

Perraud - better than current LWBs, shame we lost him tbh.

Midfield:

AMN - Awful

JWP - At this time, he was better than any CM we currently have without question. Probably still is. Plus Set Pieces.

Stu - Very tidy player for us obviously. Although not sure he was better then than say Fellows or Scienza, and possibly not better than Azaz (on the few times where we actually use Azaz properly... 🤦‍♂️)

Enlyounossu - Really shows how thing the squad was under ralph, worse player than Fellows, Scienza, and azaz.

Attack:

Walcott - At that point in his career, no chance he's better than Fellows or Scienza are currently as a winger, and AA is a better striker...

Adams - Not a better striker than AA imo, but different obviously - and he fills a niche we need filling today (although stewart is a better player for this role when actually fit).

The fact that Ralph had that squad in contention to stay up in the premier league is a testament to how good he was. The fact that a succession of managers under SR have failed to keep better squads either in the premier league, or even fighting for the playoffs this season, is a testament to just how badly managed we've been since, and how much harm SR are doing with awful managerial appointments.
 

 

It really was a poor squad. If I'd have known what god awful decisions SR would make since I'd never have called for Ralph to go when he did. 

Although he wouldn't have lasted anyway because he'd clearly run out of energy for the job here. Also not sure he's the SR puppet kind of guy. 

[Whitey Grandad]

11 hours ago, Dr. Kucho said:

Their objective is to make money, like all other football club owners (on the exception of a few who have a connection to the club they own).

I think what happened is that Ankersen and Kraft approached various businessmen with their plan and Dragan decided to go for it. Someone told me the other day that Danish football club Midjiland (spelling) do everything with data. And guess who was their chairman. 

Likely Ankersen had a plan that using the latest data software systems they could outsmart other clubs who dont use it and make money with player trading and finishing high up in the league. It all worked at Brentford and would work again they thought. Problem was that in the premier league you need big money and they relied too much on data and didn’t use their common sense.

Dragan has a few options, sell and accept a loss, continue and hope it works out or replace Ankersen and others and bring in experienced football chairman and directors. 

These are my thoughts and I could be wrong in how I think it went.

I have come to the conclusion that these owners are treating our club as one big experiment. Some people with weird ideas have persuaded someone with money to burn/launder/offset/dispose/throw away to have a big of fun. 

We are a rich man's toy.