Tonda Eckert

[tdmickey3]

4 minutes ago, vectraman said:

Name a manager who has never been sacked!!

Mikel Arteta

[sadoldgit]

2 hours ago, saintant said:

What you mean the managers who have been sacked because they're shit?

No, I mean the managers who have been sacked because that’s what clubs do when they want to improve results. Name me one manager who has never been sacked.

[tdmickey3]

1 minute ago, sadoldgit said:

No, I mean the managers who have been sacked because that’s what clubs do when they want to improve results. Name me one manager who has never been sacked.

 

3 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

Mikel Arteta

 

[Dusic]

Sensible, low risk appointment IMO as those making the decision have had the rare chance to actually judge the quality of his work in the actual setting he is being placed in.

They have not rushed and have taken their time and clearly the players respect and have built a rapport with Eckert which has lead to by far the most cohesive performances for many months where players look motivated and seem to actually enjoy it again.

Good to get it sorted and to just focus on the games.

Kudos to @OrnelasGladis who called it initially.

[BARCELONASAINT]

In many respects the club are dammed if they do and dammed if they don't in respects to appointing TE.

If they don't a section of the fans will say he won 4/5 games, the players were playing for him and we look a much better team than a month ago. Players have publicly come out giving their backing to the guy etc

If we do a section of the fans will say, lazy appointment, no ambition, massive risk, the club don't know what they are doing, cheap skates etc

Every managerial appointment is a risk and to be honest i don't see many currently out there and available (that would come to Saints!) that could do any better.

[VectisSaint]

Had wondered whether they were waiting for O'Neill to be available (M not G). Now that the Bhoys have got Nancy installed Martin is available. Didn't he have a house in Winchester at some stage, or was that someone else?

[johnnyboy]

1 hour ago, vectraman said:

Name a manager who has never been sacked!!

Go on then I’ll bite 

Sir Alex Ferguson 😜

[Saint Pete]

3 minutes ago, johnnyboy said:

Go on then I’ll bite 

Sir Alex Ferguson 😜

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2008/may/31/manchesterunited.stmirren

😉

[Mboto Gorge]

5 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

Not a surprise, fully expected. The club wanted this as soon as they shuffled him into the first team, at the expense of the incumbent Trollope/Lallana.

And then when you add the continuous club fluff pieces with players blowing praise up his arse, it was always the end goal.

Is it the right call? I don't think so, personally. He had a great run of 4 games, things clicked against Charlton and Leicester specifically - but we came down to that same bump against Millwall, all the old fragilities and lack of game management on and off pitch came back to bite us.

The club clearly can't hang on an Interim for long, so they had to make a call - but I don't agree with the view that there is simply no one else out there other than Tonda, we'd have been attractive to a wide range of more experienced managers.

But it's what it is, the club have stuck themselves on Tonda - will it be the first SR masterstroke, or yet another catastrophic misjudgement in their history of misjudgements?

Well said, re your last paragraph I think we know the likelihood of how this will turn out, unfortunately 

[Doctoroncall]

1 hour ago, sadoldgit said:

No, I mean the managers who have been sacked because that’s what clubs do when they want to improve results. Name me one manager who has never been sacked.

Arsene Wenger and Diego Simone. Emma Hayes of course 😉
 

i don’t think Pep Guardiola has either. 

[Weston Super Saint]

Jürgen Klopp - never sacked.

[saintant]

1 hour ago, vectraman said:

Name a manager who has never been sacked!!

Pep, Jurgen, Zidane, Simeone, Enrique, Deschamps, Gallardo. Football is different from most other industries in that managers who get sacked are still in demand. Some still go on to do a decent job others are just crap. I guess the trick is to sort the wheat from the chaff - easier said than done. The alternative is what we seem about to do - give an opportunity to a young manager with potential and hope it works out. Both options carry risks.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

Predictable as night turns into day really. Another weak Selles type appointment. I really cannot believe a club like us cannot recruit a decent and experienced manager. I fully expect us to drift into mid table by the end of the season, with the probability of changing manager again for next season. Sports Republic are clueless. 

[tdmickey3]

10 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Predictable as night turns into day really. Another weak Selles type appointment. I really cannot believe a club like us cannot recruit a decent and experienced manager. I fully expect us to drift into mid table by the end of the season, with the probability of changing manager again for next season. Sports Republic are clueless. 

Sadly, this is correct...

[Jack]

Will look a really shit move if we balls up the next couple of games. 
 

I was dead against it after the first couple, just carried on Still’s rubbish system and looked unconvincing. Obviously we looked good at Charlton and decent enough against 10 man Leicester. I’d have preferred a decision after this week’s big 3 games 

[Football Special]

6 hours ago, S-Clarke said:

Not a surprise, fully expected. The club wanted this as soon as they shuffled him into the first team, at the expense of the incumbent Trollope/Lallana.

And then when you add the continuous club fluff pieces with players blowing praise up his arse, it was always the end goal.

Is it the right call? I don't think so, personally. He had a great run of 4 games, things clicked against Charlton and Leicester specifically - but we came down to that same bump against Millwall, all the old fragilities and lack of game management on and off pitch came back to bite us.

The club clearly can't hang on an Interim for long, so they had to make a call - but I don't agree with the view that there is simply no one else out there other than Tonda, we'd have been attractive to a wide range of more experienced managers.

But it's what it is, the club have stuck themselves on Tonda - will it be the first SR masterstroke, or yet another catastrophic misjudgement in their history of misjudgements?

Well put. 

They must see something in him to think he's a genuine first team manager but it's a huge gamble.

Winning 4 in a row was great, but what happens if we now lose 4 in a row? If the 4 wins got him the job do the 4 defeats get him sacked? 

[Willo of Whiteley]

Sport Republic are pretty clueless. It was inevitable it would be Tonda Eckhart.

[VectisSaint]

2 hours ago, vectraman said:

Name a manager who has never been sacked!!

Ted Bates

[Lee On Solent Saint]

2 minutes ago, VectisSaint said:

Ted Bates

Tonda Eckert........yet