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Lord Duckhunter

Lord Duckhunter

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1 hour ago, sadoldgit said:

A player runs into the box with the intention of diving to win a penalty. As it happens the opposition are aware of his intention so do not give him the opportunity and he stays on his feet and doesn’t actually appeal for a penalty. Despite this, the opposing team surround the referee and claim that he intended to dive anyway. The referee succumbs to the claims and shows the would be diver the red card.

The player intended to cheat, didn’t get the opportunity but gets sent off anyway.

Sound familiar?

Err, no

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mikec

mikec

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Looking at today's TV sport preview:

"Championship Football: Hull v Middlesbrough, 3pm, Sky Sports Main Event The play-off final. Teams and date may change."

You mean there's still a chance? :)

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RedArmy

RedArmy

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6 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

 

also said that other clubs have caught us out but no photographic or video proof, hence why “they won’t get involved”.

 

 

I bet they feel a little bit silly now, we’d have agreed that we did it and probably given further evidence to support their claim. 

trousers

trousers

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8 minutes ago, mikec said:

Looking at today's TV sport preview:

"Championship Football: Hull v Middlesbrough, 3pm, Sky Sports Main Event The play-off final. Teams and date may change."

You mean there's still a chance? :)

I think the injunction we've sought to halt the match kicks in at noon...? ;)

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trousers

trousers

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Am I the only one who won't be too fussed if Middlesbrough win? If that happens, there's the possibility of Hull starting legal proceedings (according to reports) and even if they do get to the PL it'll be amusing watching them suffer week in week out (although there's a chance they could 'do a Sunderland' of course)...

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trousers

trousers

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20 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

My cousins husband works at a championship club, and is fairly influential.

trying to get info out of him has been hard but he did tell me yesterday that it is well known in the league that Saints are pretty full on with the peeping into other teams training, regularly breaching the 72 hour rule. He said that other teams in the league would put additional measures in place in the build up to playing Saints, such as dummy training drills etc. 

also said that other clubs have caught us out but no photographic or video proof, hence why “they won’t get involved”. Also, clubs are careful not to go in too hard publicly as football changes quickly.

Last things he said is that we have been the biggest advocates of fairness and fair play at various EFL meetings, very high horse type of stuff, which has allowed others to find our current situation both amusing and predictable.

 

That doesn't add up...If all these clubs knew it was going to happen, why didn't they 'do a Middlesbrough' and catch us (photographs etc) in the act?

The irony is, they'd have actually done us a favour if a club had reported it earlier in the season...

Edit: conspiracy theory... Maybe they all colluded to not report it until it happened in the playoffs, knowing the punishment would likely be greater...? ;)

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AlexLaw76

AlexLaw76

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Just now, trousers said:

That doesn't add up...If all these clubs knew it was going to happen, why didn't they 'do a Middlesbrough' and catch us (photographs etc) in the act?

Who knows. The steaks were far higher v Boro maybe 

trousers

trousers

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1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Who knows. The steaks were far higher v Boro maybe 

Yup... As per the conspiracy theory I appended to my post...

P.s. I always prefer steaks on my plate... ;)

dsrdorset

dsrdorset

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9 minutes ago, trousers said:

Am I the only one who won't be too fussed if Middlesbrough win? If that happens, there's the possibility of Hull starting legal proceedings (according to reports) and even if they do get to the PL it'll be amusing watching them suffer week in week out (although there's a chance they could 'do a Sunderland' of course)...

Absolutely not. I don't think I could cope seeing Gibson's face and that cry baby manager celebrating. Hull MUST win

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Mattio

Mattio

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I should be on the train to Wembley now with thousands of other saints fans, my partner and sister, meeting other family and friends. Gonna have to keep myself busy with manual labour today - that pollen count must be extra high today cos my eyes are very red…

trousers

trousers

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4 minutes ago, dsrdorset said:

Absolutely not. I don't think I could cope seeing Gibson's face and that cry baby manager celebrating. Hull MUST win

Actually, on reflection, yep, you're right... Come on Hull!

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Lighthouse

Lighthouse

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It’s going to be hard watching some p*ssed up Teesider get pepper sprayed for punching a police horse, knowing that should be me.

 

Truth be told though, I don’t actually care who wins. Boro fans haven’t done or said anything ours wouldn’t have in the same situation and Gibson has done little other than fight his corner for his club, and it’s paid off.

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mikec

mikec

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At least if Boro win we won't have to face them next year.  An ideal scenario would be them having a miserable season in the PL to get relegated while we cruise to automatic promotion.

I don't suppose it will happen though.

Oldandtired

Oldandtired

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42 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Also, clubs are careful not to go in too hard publicly as football changes quickly.

Undoubtedly also an element of ' Let him who is without sin cast the first stone' about it.        
 

Every club is at it in one form or another. Football is a dirty business with clubs getting up to all sorts of shenanigans to gain an advantage. They do not want the spotlight to turn on themselves by creating waves or noise so it stands to reason that it is better to keep quiet about certain things.

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Block 5

Block 5

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I've been on a wellness retreat for the last 10 days, where there was a complete screen detox; so nobody has had access to the internet. It's been incredibly relaxing, and I'm quietly confident of a Saints win. 

I'm about to set off for Wembley, and haven't caught up with any team news. 

Is Captain Jack fit? 

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trousers

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1 minute ago, Block 5 said:

I've been on a wellness retreat for the last 10 days, where there was a complete screen detox; so nobody has had access to the internet. It's been incredibly relaxing, and I'm quietly confident of a Saints win. 

I'm about to set off for Wembley, and haven't caught up with any team news. 

Is Captain Jack fit? 

 

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Cuddles

Cuddles

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3 minutes ago, Block 5 said:

I've been on a wellness retreat for the last 10 days, where there was a complete screen detox; so nobody has had access to the internet. It's been incredibly relaxing, and I'm quietly confident of a Saints win. 

I'm about to set off for Wembley, and haven't caught up with any team news. 

Is Captain Jack fit? 

They are all well rested.

sadoldgit

sadoldgit

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46 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

My cousins husband works at a championship club, and is fairly influential.

trying to get info out of him has been hard but he did tell me yesterday that it is well known in the league that Saints are pretty full on with the peeping into other teams training, regularly breaching the 72 hour rule. He said that other teams in the league would put additional measures in place in the build up to playing Saints, such as dummy training drills etc. 

also said that other clubs have caught us out but no photographic or video proof, hence why “they won’t get involved”. Also, clubs are careful not to go in too hard publicly as football changes quickly.

Last things he said is that we have been the biggest advocates of fairness and fair play at various EFL meetings, very high horse type of stuff, which has allowed others to find our current situation both amusing and predictable.

 

If the attitude within the club is that checking other teams out is no big deal this is hardly surprising. I’m more interested in what other teams do now. Are they all “at it” in some way or other?

Also, if we were doing it when Will Still was here it just goes to show how ineffectual it was so begs the question, why do it?

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bpsaint

bpsaint

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No good being angry at Boro and their hierarchy, they’ve only protected their own interests as most other teams would have done.

All of our anger should 100% be directed at the handful of people inside our club that were complicit in this, and an owner that hasn’t addressed the fanbase yet. Our club is a fucking shambles.

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Lord Duckhunter

Lord Duckhunter

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If you take the emotion out of it, Hull will be an easier game next season. It’s a freak they’ve made the play offs, they won’t be anywhere near the top 6 next season. For the same reason I don’t want Spurs relegated, although West Ham will be tough, there’s no chance Spurs won’t take one of the top 2 next season. It’s going to be hard enough to get promoted starting behind everyone else, so we need the weakest league possible 

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Whitey Grandad

Whitey Grandad

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14 minutes ago, Oldandtired said:

Undoubtedly also an element of ' Let him who is without sin cast the first stone' about it.        
 

Every club is at it in one form or another. Football is a dirty business with clubs getting up to all sorts of shenanigans to gain an advantage. They do not want the spotlight to turn on themselves by creating waves or noise so it stands to reason that it is better to keep quiet about certain things.

"Every club"?

Including Middlesbrough?

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sfc4prem

sfc4prem

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Just now, Stripey McStripe Shirt said:

Whilst they won't admit it, it must feel so hollow for Boro being at Wembley today. Whilst I'd love to be promoted I'd hate it if the circumstances were reversed.

Defeated over two legs by us. Certainly hollow, but as a fan I'd probably find the whole thing hilarious and wouldn't hate it. I'd be laughing my way to the Premier League if I was a Boro fan.

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Oldandtired

Oldandtired

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5 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

"Every club"?

Including Middlesbrough?

In one form or another, guaranteed.

I didn't necessarily mean getting the work experience tea maker to stand under a tree with an iPhone but encouraging cheating in general to gain an advantage... eg taking lessons from Tom Daley😎

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Lord Duckhunter

Lord Duckhunter

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55 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

My cousins husband works at a championship club, and is fairly influential.

trying to get info out of him has been hard but he did tell me yesterday that it is well known in the league that Saints are pretty full on with the peeping into other teams training, regularly breaching the 72 hour rule. He said that other teams in the league would put additional measures in place in the build up to playing Saints, such as dummy training drills etc. 

also said that other clubs have caught us out but no photographic or video proof, hence why “they won’t get involved”. Also, clubs are careful not to go in too hard publicly as football changes quickly.

Last things he said is that we have been the biggest advocates of fairness and fair play at various EFL meetings, very high horse type of stuff, which has allowed others to find our current situation both amusing and predictable.

 

I’m meeting family in France next week & there will be a coach from a league one club there (we’re related through marriage). I’ll ask him, but never get much out of him, and I pretty much stopped asking after he told me I was “too harsh” on Baz after his first premier league spell. 

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sadoldgit

sadoldgit

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31 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

It’s going to be hard watching some p*ssed up Teesider get pepper sprayed for punching a police horse, knowing that should be me.

 

Truth be told though, I don’t actually care who wins. Boro fans haven’t done or said anything ours wouldn’t have in the same situation and Gibson has done little other than fight his corner for his club, and it’s paid off.

If Gibbo had sent someone to check us out in the same circumstances I wouldn’t have given a toss. As Eckert said, the game is all about what happens between 22 players on the pitch when it comes down to it. Middlesbrough had enough chances to go through comfortably but blew it. Again, if the situations were reversed I would be blaming us for our own ineptitude, not screaming for a bye to the final because of some half baked attempt at “spying.”

As said earlier, it is all a bit hollow for Middlesbrough today. They haven’t made the final through merit, they are there through a courtroom. Hardly a great sporting achievement!

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trousers

trousers

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2 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

he told me I was “too harsh” on Baz after his first premier league spell. 

Definitely an unreliable witness... ;)

trousers

trousers

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1 minute ago, sadoldgit said:

If Gibbo had sent someone to check us out in the same circumstances I wouldn’t have given a toss. As Eckert said, the game is all about what happens between 22 players on the pitch when it comes down to it. Middlesbrough had enough chances to go through comfortably but blew it. Again, if the situations were reversed I would be blaming us for our own ineptitude, not screaming for a bye to the final because of some half baked attempt at “spying.”

"Well, you would say that now wouldn't you" pelters incoming... ;)

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Saint86

Saint86

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49 minutes ago, trousers said:

Am I the only one who won't be too fussed if Middlesbrough win? If that happens, there's the possibility of Hull starting legal proceedings (according to reports) and even if they do get to the PL it'll be amusing watching them suffer week in week out (although there's a chance they could 'do a Sunderland' of course)...

I don't disagree overly. Boro getting promoted opens up the EFL to more potential legal challenges.

Next year in the prem will be brutal to survive in. Spurs won't be the mess they are again under de zerbi, forest won't have a European distraction and are likely to make some mega money on players like MGW and Anderson - and those 2 players show their recruitment is solid.

Palace maybe will struggle? But then equally, they've had mateta out half the season, guehi left them in Jan, they've been distracted by Europe, and glasner has already announced he's checked out... The league was a mere distraction for them.

Promotion could really be a mixed blessing this season. But we do absolutely have to get promoted next year. Could this be a bit like Leeds getting beaten by us, having a great year in the champ, and then getting promoted and staying up?

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Sheaf Saint

Sheaf Saint

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9 minutes ago, SaintsLoyal said:

More info is needed on the whole Jason Taylor arrival, departure and why.

A photo of his boatrace would be nice.

Yeah this needs investigating.

At what point did he give the evidence to Boro? How long were they sitting on it? 

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Dr Who?

Dr Who?

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I’m going carpet shopping today. Not a great replacement for a playoff final, and weirdly slightly more expensive! 🙄 only slightly mind. 

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trousers

trousers

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1 minute ago, sfc4prem said:

Would this press-led vitriol have been the same if it were a bigger club like Aston Villa?

Did you pick out Villa because Salt had a stint with them...? Hmm, the plot thickens... ;)

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trousers

trousers

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Just now, Sheaf Saint said:

Yeah this needs investigating.

At what point did he give the evidence to Boro? How long were they sitting on it? 

Whilst it won't exonerate us, I'd definitely like to hear the full story as to how long this 'sting' had been in the planning by Middlesbrough...

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Dr Who?

Dr Who?

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1 minute ago, Saint86 said:

I don't disagree overly. Boro getting promoted opens up the EFL to more potential legal challenges.

Next year in the prem will be brutal to survive in. Spurs won't be the mess they are again under de zerbi, forest won't have a European distraction and are likely to make some mega money on players like MGW and Anderson - and those 2 players show their recruitment is solid.

Palace maybe will struggle? But then equally, they've had mateta out half the season, guehi left them in Jan, they've been distracted by Europe, and glasner has already announced he's checked out... The league was a mere distraction for them.

Promotion could really be a mixed blessing this season. But we do absolutely have to get promoted next year. Could this be a bit like Leeds getting beaten by us, having a great year in the champ, and then getting promoted and staying up?

I do not really care who goes up, but one thing is for sure it will set them up to be a yo-yo club if not more. That is what it is these days, go up and grab the cash. I do not want this for Boro, even if they are getting smashed every week, the club will not care and neither will Mr Gibson as his bank account will look much better. But I know the football gods do not work like this so expect them to win today. 

trousers

trousers

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14 minutes ago, SaintsLoyal said:

More info is needed on the whole Jason Taylor arrival, departure and why.

A photo of his boatrace would be nice.

Not that I'd encourage it, but he used to have a LinkedIn page (by all accounts) so whoever knows how to get hold of old versions of webpages ought to be able to dig that up...

trousers

trousers

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4 minutes ago, Dr Who? said:

I’m going carpet shopping today. Not a great replacement for a playoff final, and weirdly slightly more expensive! 🙄 

Shag pile?

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SaintsLoyal

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Eckert has a history of being involved with others it seems in spying, with the national team in brazil and cologne.   

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whelk

whelk

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4 minutes ago, Dr Who? said:

I’m going carpet shopping today. Not a great replacement for a playoff final, and weirdly slightly more expensive! 🙄 only slightly mind. 

I’ve decided to do some crack cocaine and a bit of gardening

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Dr Who?

Dr Who?

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7 minutes ago, LiberalCommunist said:

Whoever loses today is going to reignite beef with saints. 

We are merely in the eye of the shit storm right now. 

We have done our beef, and it was quite a big joint. Hull’s beef will be with EFL. Boro they have nowhere to go as they got what they wanted. 

Dr Who?

Dr Who?

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Just now, Whitey Grandad said:

How many people constitute a pile?

Asking for a friend. 

My friend just said 3 upwards. With the strongest on the bottom. 

trousers

trousers

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Just now, Dr Who? said:

My friend just said 3 upwards. With the strongest on the bottom. 

[ Trousers... Resist the Kenneth Williams gif... Resist!!! ]

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