hypochondriac Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 5 minutes ago, StrangelyBrown said: It's not like we haven't seen this coming. We just don't seem to be in a position to be proactive with too big a squad We should be able to replace Charles and THB as we knew they would be sold. I know we will replace them before the end of August but that doesn't help us today does it. If we don't win today you can argue that the club are at least partly responsible for selling the players without replacements yet. 6
Saint Mikey Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Sigh. Year after year it seems that people suffer from amnesia and forget that this happens EVERY SINGLE YEAR. If, we could control when we sold players (even ones we didn't want to lose) we would. This has a direct impact on players we can bring in. No clubs have no control over that. It's the way the window works and it's not going to change. Other clubs will lose players they don't want to close to the window. Do you think 'Boro wanted to lose Azaz as late as they did, for example? We also don't see the majority of the planning the club does. We would have planned for this scenario and started previous seasons in Championship with players like JWP, Tella, Dibling and Fernandes getting minutes before being sold. We see so little of this and have to rely on rumours and bullshit, but the club are never going to show their hand - it would be terrible business strategy to do so. We also don't know the exact financial pressures, again for good reason. If THB doesn't play today then the timing is poor, but again out of our control when a team like Villa put a serious bid in. That's what we have a squad for. I'm confident we'll get someone in to replace him, whether he's as good will be down to the quality of the recruitment. 14
lambtiss Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 4 hours ago, Pat from Poole said: Chances of Mings wanting to return to a club that turfed him out, mainly on account of being “too small”? Slim. Short odds? 1
Wade Garrett Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 4 hours ago, Pat from Poole said: Chances of Mings wanting to return to a club that turfed him out, mainly on account of being “too small”? Slim. Good, I don’t rate him. 1
VectisSaint Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 1 hour ago, Football Special said: Would complete the circle for Mings who was released by Saints as a kid before going to Chippenham i think He's a Chippenham lad, but I think there was bad blood when he left Saints, his Dad Adie got the boot as well - think it was down to Lowe IIRC. Don't think Tyrone will be heading to Saints any time soon. It was mooted a few years back when he was at Ipswich.
Saint NL Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 26 minutes ago, Mick_Channon said: THB has refused to play today. If that's true, then it's a real shitty move from him. 5
sadoldgit Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Just now, Saint NL said: If that's true, then it's a real shitty move from him. Exactly! He is a Southampton player until he isn’t. Very unprofessional.
Toadhall Saint Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 30 minutes ago, Mick_Channon said: THB has refused to play today. And you know this how? 2
Edmonton Saint Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) Mmmm. Edited 5 hours ago by Edmonton Saint Wrong thread 😂
sadoldgit Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 31 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said: And you know this how? He is not in the squad 1
UpweySaint Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 2 minutes ago, sadoldgit said: He is not in the squad It doesn’t mean he made a choice not to play and you know that. 2
Toadhall Saint Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 2 minutes ago, sadoldgit said: He is not in the squad Doesn’t mean he has refused to play tho in all likelihood that is the case. Just wanted to know how the poster knew before the team was announced. 2
LiberalCommunist Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 100% gone though. So nothing to be pleased about. 1
Gloucester Saint Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) Dom Ballard scores his first goal, probably the winner, for Bristol City. It’s a backheel volley with echoes of Guimares goal for Newcastle at SMS. Tolaj has also looked very handy. Birmingham make it 2-2 straight away from a corner - but no, seems to be an offside. Oh, what a surprise, it’s a referee blooper. Edited 4 hours ago by Gloucester Saint
die Mannyschaft Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago On 20/08/2026 at 22:24, SNSUN said: The Villa fans for one on their forum! They can't believe they're signing a Championship centre back to play in the Champions League. Despite the fact he played and scored for England and was one of our better players in our Prem relegation season. He may not be the same level but he's only 24. The fact for us is that he is our best CB and will be tough to replace but I wouldn't begrudge him a move to Villa and I suspect it'll be 25 million up front with extras up to 30 and a sell on clause. We can do business with that but it still blows that it'll come at this time of the window. I just hope it doesn't cause any unrest amongst others that might think their futures are above us. Its all about selling high and buying bargains for most teams including Saints. No different than an antique dealers. 2
Crab Lungs Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Well, if THB goes I hope we go balls out for Mattie Pollock.
James Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 13 minutes ago, gammon cheeks said: Adam webster ? Actually not a bad suggestion. Would want him and another though. I think he’s a better option than Wood or Stephens next to a new THB replacement.
Gloucester Saint Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 25 minutes ago, die Mannyschaft said: Its all about selling high and buying bargains for most teams including Saints. No different than an antique dealers. Have a red and blue team transfer Bargain Hunt competition. Give the blue team the Ankerson brothers and we can call it Bargain Cunt. 4
Saint86 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago Do we know how much we're getting for him at least? Really hope its towards £30M total (i.e., with add ons).
Gloucester Saint Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 34 minutes ago, gammon cheeks said: Adam webster ? Even Kevin Webster would have better than Stephens last week, if he was real, and could have shut the garage down for a day in Weatherfield. 1
sadoldgit Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 44 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said: Doesn’t mean he has refused to play tho in all likelihood that is the case. Just wanted to know how the poster knew before the team was announced. Perhaps his wife’s sister in law was cutting THB’s hair this morning?
tdmickey3 Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Saint86 said: Do we know how much we're getting for him at least? Really hope it’s towards £30M total (i.e., with add ons). 20m plus add ins, far to cheap for a player who’s importance to us is massive
Toadhall Saint Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, sadoldgit said: Perhaps his wife’s sister in law was cutting THB’s hair this morning? Just as plausible as you being funny.
tdmickey3 Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago (edited) It will be 20m + addons To cheap IMO Edited 1 hour ago by tdmickey3
qwertyell Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Need 1xGK (if/when both Ramsdale and Bazunu go), 2xCB (once Harwood-Bellis goes), 1xCM (x2 if Jander's off), and probably another wide attacker - Fellows has been disappointing, and Scienza may or may not be phoning it in. A lot to do in a little time.
RedArmy Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, Saint86 said: Do we know how much we're getting for him at least? Really hope its towards £30M total (i.e., with add ons). If he’s left out this soon after an £18m bid I think anything close to £30m with add ons is unrealistic
Harry_SFC Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, tdmickey3 said: It will be 20m + addons To cheap IMO Yeah 20 plus 5 add ons will do it. Definitely too cheap.
tdmickey3 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, Harry_SFC said: Yeah 20 plus 5 add ons will do it. Definitely too cheap. Needs to be 30+ Add ins to reflect his value to us
Lighthouse Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Just now, Harry_SFC said: Yeah 20 plus 5 add ons will do it. Definitely too cheap. It’s a bit more than we paid for him, which makes sense as he hasn’t really gone beyond what he was back then. When we agreed a fee of part of his loan, he was a top quality Championship player who’d just got promoted with Burnley. Now he’s a top quality Championship player who’s just reached the playoffs with Southampton. We can’t just demand more because we want it. £25m is about the ceiling for a Championship defender, I can’t think of any off hand who’ve sold for more. It’d be our record signing if we were buying him. 1
SNSUN Posted 56 minutes ago Posted 56 minutes ago 30 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said: Needs to be 30+ Add ins to reflect his value to us It might be SR think that getting £20 million up front gives us more time in the window to bring in recent replacements. Drag it on for another week or so and we'd only have a matter of days to sign players. 1
coalman Posted 55 minutes ago Posted 55 minutes ago 27 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said: I'm not sure he's worth less than Charles though. Charles has looked like he can make the step up. THB did not when we were in the Premier League (not that any player covered themselves in glory last season). I think that THB is decent but lacking pace and physicality to be a really top Premier League player. That being said I'd rather have him in the side than Wood.
SNSUN Posted 53 minutes ago Posted 53 minutes ago 30 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: It’s a bit more than we paid for him, which makes sense as he hasn’t really gone beyond what he was back then. When we agreed a fee of part of his loan, he was a top quality Championship player who’d just got promoted with Burnley. Now he’s a top quality Championship player who’s just reached the playoffs with Southampton. We can’t just demand more because we want it. £25m is about the ceiling for a Championship defender, I can’t think of any off hand who’ve sold for more. It’d be our record signing if we were buying him. Ake went for 40 ish. The next highest is Godfrey for (from memory, i posted it last week) 23 so 25 million or similar would put him at the second highest for Championship CB. Under what he's perhaps worth to us but as in my last post, it's possible we want the money quickly to give us room to move quickly in the window. It might be the players we want are available now and we need the fee to move for them. Strengthen now and we may have more luck holding on to Casper, Leo, Azaz etc.
RedArmy Posted 51 minutes ago Posted 51 minutes ago People are mad if they think £20m + 5m is acceptable. We paid £20m for him ffs, and he’s improved since. 4
tdmickey3 Posted 51 minutes ago Posted 51 minutes ago 35 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: It’s a bit more than we paid for him, which makes sense as he hasn’t really gone beyond what he was back then. When we agreed a fee of part of his loan, he was a top quality Championship player who’d just got promoted with Burnley. Now he’s a top quality Championship player who’s just reached the playoffs with Southampton. We can’t just demand more because we want it. £25m is about the ceiling for a Championship defender, I can’t think of any off hand who’ve sold for more. It’d be our record signing if we were buying him. 36 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said: Needs to be 30+ Add ins to reflect his value to us It’s about his value to us
ally_uk Posted 26 minutes ago Posted 26 minutes ago 16 minutes ago, RedArmy said: People are mad if they think £20m + 5m is acceptable. We paid £20m for him ffs, and he’s improved since. Yep agreed in reality we should of said double that or piss off. Doesn't make sense does it ? Would he be the type of player who would become disruptive if we refuse ? Why are we so desperate to cash in ? So now we need Centre back Def Mid And possibly another Striker
The Kraken Posted 25 minutes ago Posted 25 minutes ago (edited) Agree with some of the above, anything less than £25m plus add ons seems under valued to me. Bought by us for £20m, has since played for England and had a great season last season. Transfer fees for PL clubs are constantly on the rise too. He’s got a couple of years on his contract, I believe, so no worries there. Even £25M plus £5M add ons seems a little generous. But I guess being a championship club puts a glass ceiling on it. But it seems we might let him go for less than we got for Shea Charles, which doesn’t seem like a brilliant deal. I also read that Man City have a 25% clause. Saw someone suggest the fee may be low so as to offset a Dobbin payment and so keep the headline fee lower, which could be true I suppose. Edited 24 minutes ago by The Kraken
Matthew Le God Posted 10 minutes ago Posted 10 minutes ago 10 minutes ago, The Kraken said: Even £25M plus £5M add ons seems a little generous. But I guess being a championship club puts a glass ceiling on it. As a Championship club we've sold players for £40m and £58m.
SNSUN Posted 9 minutes ago Posted 9 minutes ago 15 minutes ago, ally_uk said: Yep agreed in reality we should of said double that or piss off. Doesn't make sense does it ? Would he be the type of player who would become disruptive if we refuse ? Why are we so desperate to cash in ? So now we need Centre back Def Mid And possibly another Striker And a back up GK and possibly another winger. Then replace Jander and Scienza if they end up going. Tons of work to be done. 10 days to go.
HarvSFC Posted 8 minutes ago Posted 8 minutes ago 1 hour ago, Harry_SFC said: I'm not sure he's worth less than Charles though. Aston Villa are also a higher level than Fulham and have had a lot of money come into them through sales this summer. We should absolutely push for £25m+ from them.
MarkSFC Posted 5 minutes ago Posted 5 minutes ago Apologies if already mentioned somewhere, but was THB at St Marys today?
The Kraken Posted 2 minutes ago Posted 2 minutes ago 3 minutes ago, HarvSFC said: Aston Villa are also a higher level than Fulham and have had a lot of money come into them through sales this summer. We should absolutely push for £25m+ from them. I find it very odd that both Benfica and Villa have been linked with initial offers lower than the figure reported we initially paid for THB. Hopefully the club display again that they know what they’re doing when negotiating fees in. I really do think that anything less than the Shea Charles fee would be too low.
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