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15 minutes ago, Katalinic said:

I very much doubt we will have the budget for sentimentality in peripheral coaching staff/cheerleaders. 

Thing is, we don't know what impact he has had behind the scenes. He could have been one of the big pieces of the jigsaw puzzle that got us moving again in the 2nd half of the season for all we know.

Posted
14 minutes ago, Cuddles said:

Thing is, we don't know what impact he has had behind the scenes. He could have been one of the big pieces of the jigsaw puzzle that got us moving again in the 2nd half of the season for all we know.

Or he could have done a bit of surveillance for us.

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Posted (edited)
12 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

It has been reported/mentioned that we need to bring in at least £50m this summer in player sales just to stand still.

As would be expected, so we're talking THB and Scienza then (probably £55-60m)? That sounds reasonable.

With the reduction in squad again through our of contract players, Edozie in for Scienza, Larin in for a couple of million, new contract for Stewart, and then recoup some money for the on loan players, maybe Archer, then we'll have a bit to pick some players up.

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Posted
30 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

As would be expected, so we're talking THB and Scienza then (probably £55-60m)? That sounds reasonable.

With the reduction in squad again through our of contract players, Edozie in for Scienza, Larin in for a couple of million, new contract for Stewart, and then recoup some money for the on loan players, maybe Archer, then we'll have a bit to pick some players up.

Good call.  I expect Jander and Charles to be offski.    There will be big interest in Jander after his heroics v Fulham and particularly Man. City.     Let's hope the fee is in line with his obvious talent/scope.    Charles not signing a new contract is an indication he wants a move, and interest in him is likely.   So your 55-60m pounds incoming could stretch to 100m; maybe 120-125m with the sale of Ramsdale.     Which would give Spors something to try and weave his magic with again......if he's still here.   

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8 minutes ago, austsaint said:

Good call.  I expect Jander and Charles to be offski.    There will be big interest in Jander after his heroics v Fulham and particularly Man. City.     Let's hope the fee is in line with his obvious talent/scope.    Charles not signing a new contract is an indication he wants a move, and interest in him is likely.   So your 55-60m pounds incoming could stretch to 100m; maybe 120-125m with the sale of Ramsdale.     Which would give Spors something to try and weave his magic with again......if he's still here.   

I think it's a summer too early for Jander personally, his performances weren't consistent enough for anyone to pay the sort of money we'd be expecting. Scienza is an interesting one because despite looking so dangerous, anyone looking at his actual output will wonder whether he flatters to deceive so again I don't know if they'd stump up the level of cash we'd want. I think Charles and THB are the only definites to go, and sadly I think Stewart and Bree are also already gone. 

I'd really like to think that Peretz and Larin are both at the perfect level where we are the best option they are going to get, they would be two huge additions for next season.

Posted
1 minute ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Stewart is entirely down to us, not his decision, we have the option of another year. 

I keep seeing this but we surely would have exercised it by now? 

Posted
7 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

I keep seeing this but we surely would have exercised it by now? 

The club are doing very little but trying to get out of the mess made by Tonda and other members of staff. 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

 

 

I think it's a summer too early for Jander personally, his performances weren't consistent enough for anyone to pay the sort of money we'd be expecting. Scienza is an interesting one because despite looking so dangerous, anyone looking at his actual output will wonder whether he flatters to deceive so again I don't know if they'd stump up the level of cash we'd want. I think Charles and THB are the only definites to go, and sadly I think Stewart and Bree are also already gone. 

I'd really like to think that Peretz and Larin are both at the perfect level where we are the best option they are going to get, they would be two huge additions for next season.

Hope you're right about Jander - would love to see him stay for another season; he's going to be exceptional.   Where are you expecting Bree to go?    Back to Nate Jones?    Likewise Stewart, with his injury history can't see many options beyond Saints.   Larin, yes, can see him signing up but I suspect there will be competition for Peretz.   IF we take THB, Scienza, Charles, Jander and Peretz as likely to leave, I'd be delighted to see one of them, at a pinch two of them stay.     Ramsdale of course, is nailed on to be sold.

Posted
24 minutes ago, austsaint said:

Good call.  I expect Jander and Charles to be offski.    There will be big interest in Jander after his heroics v Fulham and particularly Man. City.     Let's hope the fee is in line with his obvious talent/scope.    Charles not signing a new contract is an indication he wants a move, and interest in him is likely.   So your 55-60m pounds incoming could stretch to 100m; maybe 120-125m with the sale of Ramsdale.     Which would give Spors something to try and weave his magic with again......if he's still here.   

There is no way we are getting £125m for Jander, Charles and Ramsdale. 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

I keep seeing this but we surely would have exercised it by now? 

According to Alfie House club are trying to renegotiate. I imagine they’re trying to give him a longer contract on less money. That way he gets a bit of security but he can’t walk away for nothing if he stays fit all season. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

The club are doing very little but trying to get out of the mess made by Tonda and other members of staff. 

Well that's fine but the problem is once his contract expires so does that option. Does anyone know when it expires? Is it the end of this month or next?

2 minutes ago, austsaint said:

Hope you're right about Jander - would love to see him stay for another season; he's going to be exceptional.   Where are you expecting Bree to go?    Back to Nate Jones?    Likewise Stewart, with his injury history can't see many options beyond Saints.   Larin, yes, can see him signing up but I suspect there will be competition for Peretz.   IF we take THB, Scienza, Charles, Jander and Peretz as likely to leave, I'd be delighted to see one of them, at a pinch two of them stay.     Ramsdale of course, is nailed on to be sold.

Bree will have his choice of any championship club and possibly a couple of the Prem ones too.

Posted
1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said:

There is no way we are getting £125m for Jander, Charles and Ramsdale. 

Indeed.   That figure is an add on estimate for the three you mention from Farmer Saints assessment of 55 -60m for THB and Scienza.

Posted
15 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

 

 

I think it's a summer too early for Jander personally, his performances weren't consistent enough for anyone to pay the sort of money we'd be expecting. Scienza is an interesting one because despite looking so dangerous, anyone looking at his actual output will wonder whether he flatters to deceive so again I don't know if they'd stump up the level of cash we'd want. I think Charles and THB are the only definites to go, and sadly I think Stewart and Bree are also already gone. 

I'd really like to think that Peretz and Larin are both at the perfect level where we are the best option they are going to get, they would be two huge additions for next season.

Can see your point re Larin but not Peretz. He's been exceptional for us and that won't have gone unnoticed both here and abroad. He's a great age for a keeper, confident and a brilliant lad to have in any dressing room.  Convinced he'll receive significant offers to choose from.

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I'd be surprised if James Bree really gets a better offer than staying with us. He's very good for the level, but doesn't feel like a priority signing for the teams with more budget than us.

Are West Ham or Wolves going to prioritise signing James Bree? Hopefully he will think he's on a decent thing with us and we can keep him.

Larin ditto, in that he's in our budget and he's been in great form for us so why go anywhere else. Stewart also ditto, he will feel (hopefully) that he still owes us a full season.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

I'd be surprised if James Bree really gets a better offer than staying with us. He's very good for the level, but doesn't feel like a priority signing for the teams with more budget than us.

Are West Ham or Wolves going to prioritise signing James Bree? Hopefully he will think he's on a decent thing with us and we can keep him.

Larin ditto, in that he's in our budget and he's been in great form for us so why go anywhere else. Stewart also ditto, he will feel (hopefully) that he still owes us a full season.

Yep agree need to get those 3 wrapped up quickly none will get a better offer all of them decent at this level. Despite all the hype of players leaving in their droves I’d still expect the only ones to leave to be the ones that will go anyway, Scienza THB, Jander, Charles all for decent money maybe Azaz but rest aren’t going to get a better offer and we’ve still got plenty of decent top half players left. New glovesman has to be a top priority though 

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Posted (edited)
56 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

sadly I think Stewart and Bree are also already gone. 

Out of interest, why? Our end of theirs? I'm not convinced either can do better than top end Championship given their limits so I suspect it'll come down to whether we think we can do better?

Edit: Just seen everyone else has already asked and been answered :D 

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Posted
21 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Yep agree need to get those 3 wrapped up quickly none will get a better offer all of them decent at this level. Despite all the hype of players leaving in their droves I’d still expect the only ones to leave to be the ones that will go anyway, Scienza THB, Jander, Charles all for decent money maybe Azaz but rest aren’t going to get a better offer and we’ve still got plenty of decent top half players left. New glovesman has to be a top priority though 

Pierce Charles might be a decent option for what we need assuming Peretz won't be with us next season. Can't see him staying at Sheff Wednesday.

Posted
1 minute ago, saintant said:

Pierce Charles might be a decent option for what we need assuming Peretz won't be with us next season. Can't see him staying at Sheff Wednesday.

Bazunu MK2. Stay clear imo 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, saintant said:

Pierce Charles might be a decent option for what we need assuming Peretz won't be with us next season. Can't see him staying at Sheff Wednesday.

 

2 minutes ago, Dman said:

Bazunu MK2. Stay clear imo 

Yep might be alright as a number 2 but not a number 1. 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Out of interest, why? Our end of theirs? I'm not convinced either can do better than top end Championship given their limits so I suspect it'll come down to whether we think we can do better?

Edit: Just seen everyone else has already asked and been answered :D 

From their end. Future proofing. Their agents will be suggesting they look at the direction Saints might be going in with what's happened and only one more season of parachute payments. Leaving on a free means they can ask for more in wages due to there being no transfer fee. 

Posted (edited)
1 minute ago, Saint_clark said:

From their end. Future proofing. Their agents will be suggesting they look at the direction Saints might be going in with what's happened and only one more season of parachute payments. Leaving on a free means they can ask for more in wages due to there being no transfer fee. 

Not sure which clubs are going to offer James Bree more money than we would.

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With regards to goalkeepers there have been links to Aleksander Vulic, Yahia Fofana, Jonathan Sirois, Pierce Charles, Fedor Lapoukhov, Anthony Patterson and Oliver Bellizia over the last year or so. No idea how strong the links are and some have since moved to different clubs. 

Posted
53 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

Not sure which clubs are going to offer James Bree more money than we would.

Teams that are just coming down from the Prem with fresh parachute payments, or lower end Prem teams. 

I think people are underestimating the appeal a rock solid player has when available for zero transfer fee. 

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3 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

Teams that are just coming down from the Prem with fresh parachute payments, or lower end Prem teams. 

I think people are underestimating the appeal a rock solid player has when available for zero transfer fee. 

Not that I believe it will happen, but West Ham could sell Wan Bissaka and sign Bree for F-all. 

Posted
1 hour ago, saintant said:

Pierce Charles might be a decent option for what we need assuming Peretz won't be with us next season. Can't see him staying at Sheff Wednesday.

Yep i'm very much hoping we can get him.

Posted
35 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Not that I believe it will happen, but West Ham could sell Wan Bissaka and sign Bree for F-all. 

Walker-Peters would come in, Bree would be back up. Think he would rather play here.

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Posted
1 hour ago, saintant said:

Pierce Charles might be a decent option for what we need assuming Peretz won't be with us next season. Can't see him staying at Sheff Wednesday.

I misread that as Prince Charles 😆 

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Posted
9 minutes ago, saintant said:

He's no longer known as that - he's had a promotion 🙂

‘England’s number 1,

England’s, England’s number 1’

Posted
3 hours ago, saintant said:

Pierce Charles might be a decent option for what we need assuming Peretz won't be with us next season. Can't see him staying at Sheff Wednesday.

Seems to have injured his shoulder a few times though.... reckon he'll have another year at Wednesday to see whether he can stay fit. 

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I think its impossible to gues at who will stay, who eill go, and who we might bring in due to the complications surrounding Eckert and Spors. 

If TE is to stay we do not know if any of the first team squad genuinely and ongoingly have a new hate towards him. Equally, we do not know the opposite. 

If he stays will that make it harder to attract new players? 

Or will it actually help (due to his skills) or make no difference?

The craving (from the fan base) for updates and clarity are completely understandable, but as it is becoming apparent, proving difficult. The complicated situation in many aspects means the club must take its time to make sure their next moves are well thought out. 

My hopes are that the vast majority stay of course.

In reality I expect THB, Ramsdale, Charles OR Jander, and Leo to be sold. Azaz may be in demand too.

I expect that Bree and Stewart will re-sign. 

I hope Peretz and Larin do too, but not expectant of either. 

Based on these happenings we will need a first choice GK, CB, and Striker. 

I expect Edozie, Robinson, Quashie, and Bragg to be more involved and important. 

I doubt much will happen for weeks so we will be in for a long summer of hoping for good oitcomes😂

 

Posted
4 hours ago, saintant said:

Pierce Charles might be a decent option for what we need assuming Peretz won't be with us next season. Can't see him staying at Sheff Wednesday.

If he wasn’t Shea Charles brother we would not be batting an eyelid over him.

He’s smaller than Bazunu.

Posted
4 hours ago, CB Fry said:

Not sure which clubs are going to offer James Bree more money than we would.

I suspect that money and personal matters will be his most important considerations. 

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Posted
5 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

There is no way we are getting £125m for Jander, Charles and Ramsdale. 

He's talking about THB and Scienza as well.

But that is pushing it slightly.

Posted
51 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

He's talking about THB and Scienza as well.

But that is pushing it slightly.

I’m not sure why everyone think Charles is going to get such a big fee. He wasn’t a sure starter for us last season whilst he got some important goals he’s barely even a proven top 6 championship player yet let alone premier league level

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Posted
2 hours ago, saintant said:

He's no longer known as that - he's had a promotion 🙂

Oh yeah, the goalkeeper formerly known as Prince Charles

Posted
1 hour ago, Turkish said:

I’m not sure why everyone think Charles is going to get such a big fee. He wasn’t a sure starter for us last season whilst he got some important goals he’s barely even a proven top 6 championship player yet let alone premier league level

Still hoping we keep Charles. Talk earlier in the season was that we have option to extend him an extra year.

Posted
13 minutes ago, Baird of the land said:

Still hoping we keep Charles. Talk earlier in the season was that we have option to extend him an extra year.

I think he should. He’s not going to play in a premier league he needs another season in the championship to really prove himself. I expect he’ll get move though as his hype seems be greater than what he’s produced thus far 

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