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Fire up the Villain/Herometer, our next contestant is Mr Gambly McInnes from Oddbins...

 

A heavy defeat at Wycombe will see him drop off the edge of Villain but a draw there and a home win will make him the Hero of the month!

He is currently walking a fine line, just as he did when invited to at the roadside by Hampshire Police.

He got away with that one, can he get away with this vote of confidence?.....

Tune in on Saturday for the next exciting episode of Deluded ****s who are Easily-led.

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Keeping Awful has given me a dilemma. If Awful does shiete and loses a few they'll bin him and may end up getting a decent replacement in. If they win a few he'll stay , and they won't go down. Based on the fact Hartlepools are shocking , I can't see them being worse than every other team, I think the best result could be a few wins. The deluded Few will then keep Awful , who is basically a poor manager , and we'll be at the same place this time next year.

 

Like it or not, if they get a decent manager they are perfectly capable of promotion next year, with Awful they won't.

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Keeping Awful has given me a dilemma. If Awful does shiete and loses a few they'll bin him and may end up getting a decent replacement in. If they win a few he'll stay , and they won't go down. Based on the fact Hartlepools are shocking , I can't see them being worse than every other team, I think the best result could be a few wins. The deluded Few will then keep Awful , who is basically a poor manager , and we'll be at the same place this time next year.

 

Like it or not, if they get a decent manager they are perfectly capable of promotion next year, with Awful they won't.

 

Is this not basically the same (with different managers' names) that was said last year, and the year before that?

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They do seem to have the remarkable knack of employing shirte managers , who get a few good results at the end of the season and manage to screw up the whole following year .

 

The thing at that level is a decent manager makes a hell of a lot of difference . It's only when you get to the championship that money and being well run becomes a bigger factor . My concern is they'll get somebody in that can harness that number of supporters and get them up despite the clowns running the show. Awful isn't that man, so the longer he's in the job the better

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Is this not basically the same (with different managers' names) that was said last year, and the year before that?

 

Exactly. I think that the chances of them getting a decent manager who can turn things around is slim: if PFC was an attractive prospect for a half-decent manager, they'd have got one when they sacked Barker. Or when they sacked Whittingham. Or Appleton. Or Cotterill. Or Grant.

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Exactly. I think that the chances of them getting a decent manager who can turn things around is slim: if PFC was an attractive prospect for a half-decent manager, they'd have got one when they sacked Barker. Or when they sacked Whittingham. Or Appleton. Or Cotterill. Or Grant.

 

They will get a half decent one eventually. It doesn't take much to win promotion from that league and they have a big financial advantage over everyone else which will eventually tell. The longer they stay down though the funnier it is.

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League 2 fixtures tonight:

 

Accrington v Bury

Cambridge v Dagenham

 

A win for Bury (to put Pompey 15 points below the playoffs) and a win or draw for Dagenham (to put Pompey 2 points above relegation), please :)

 

You got your wish Trousers

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Exactly. I think that the chances of them getting a decent manager who can turn things around is slim: if PFC was an attractive prospect for a half-decent manager, they'd have got one when they sacked Barker. Or when they sacked Whittingham. Or Appleton. Or Cotterill. Or Grant.

 

There must be something in the water down there as even Clotterill is managing to do a decent job at Bristol City.

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Pompey were wrong to keep Andy Awford as manager.

 

That is the narrow majority view of The News readers following today’s online poll.

 

On our website portsmouth.co.uk, this morning we asked the question: Were Pompey right to keep Andy Awford as manager?

 

With the vote ending at 9pm tonight, a total of 686 votes had been cast with 337 (49%) in favour of the board’s decision to support Awford and 349 (51%) calling for change.

Way to go, Andy. It must be a humungous comfort to you to know that some of the bestest are right behind you. Not very many, mind you. But as we have all learned over the years, Quality over Quantity is the key.

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Here You Go (up to end of 12/13 season)

 

Year Saints Pompey Difference

2013 30874 12232 18642

2012 26420 15016 11404

2011 22161 15707 6454

2010 20982 18249 2733

2009 17849 19830 -1981

2008 21254 19914 1340

2007 23556 19862 3694

2006 23614 19840 3774

2005 30610 20072 10538

2004 31699 20108 11591

2003 30680 18906 11774

2002 30633 15122 15511

2001 15115 13533 1582

2000 15132 13908 1224

1999 15140 11973 3167

1998 15159 11149 4010

1997 15099 8857 6242

1996 14820 9406 5414

1995 14685 8269 6416

1994 14751 11692 3059

1993 15382 13706 1676

1992 14070 11789 2281

1991 15413 9689 5724

1990 16463 8959 7504

1989 15590 10201 5389

1988 14544 15923 -1379

1987 14950 13404 1546

1986 14877 13614 1263

1985 18046 15185 2861

1984 18089 13196 4893

1983 18799 14095 4704

1982 21835 8544 13291

1981 21482 13514 7968

1980 21335 15850 5485

1979 21330 10123 11207

1978 21167 9678 11489

1977 19480 11564 7916

1976 17648 10472 7176

1975 15910 12474 3436

1974 21128 13675 7453

1973 18118 9477 8641

1972 21191 11918 9273

1971 22267 13759 8508

1970 22901 14928 7973

1969 22492 19163 3329

1968 24665 22988 1677

1967 25527 14831 10696

1966 18919 14644 4275

1965 17123 13058 4065

1964 17217 14681 2536

1963 15267 16043 -776

1962 13763 16782 -3019

1961 18665 15028 3637

1960 18052 16156 1896

1959 21540 24016 -2476

1958 14851 28499 -13648

1957 14784 25024 -10240

1956 11612 26260 -14648

1955 14724 29868 -15144

1954 14885 28993 -14108

1953 16159 31578 -15419

1952 19038 32523 -13485

1951 21816 32794 -10978

1950 23894 37004 -13110

1949 25384 37082 -11698

1948 20789 31226 -10437

1947 16597 30198 -13601

1939 14596 23630 -9034

1938 16583 22827 -6244

1937 13025 19692 -6667

1936 10705 19358 -8653

1935 9088 17995 -8907

1934 9979 18243 -8264

1933 9064 18102 -9038

1932 10880 17478 -6598

1931 12150 18779 -6629

1930 12073 18495 -6422

1929 14875 20225 -5350

1928 10177 22752 -12575

1927 9837 16792 -6955

1926 9965 14457 -4492

1925 9635 16685 -7050

1924 10420 12770 -2350

1923 12645 12195 450

1922 11385 14060 -2675

1921 12585 15445 -2860

Average 17671 17416 254

Ave last 25y 20286 14320 5966

Ave Last 50y 19964 13975 5989

Ave Prev 36y 14486 22196 -7710

 

Sorry about the format its from a spreadsheet. If anyone can tell me how to paste it in as it appears on the sheet I will happily do so

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He does like to stir it up, doesn't he?

 

More sick-making Allenesque drivel:

 

"Divisions continue to grow between the factions.

It’s close to becoming a Pompey-style civil war – and we’ve got history for a rumble down these parts."

 

http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/sport/pompey/comment-awford-decision-won-t-satisfy-all-1-6545878

Who commented as Mr Chips?

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Use the

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[code]Year	Saints	Pompey	Difference
2013	30874	12232	18642
2012	26420	15016	11404
2011	22161	15707	6454
2010	20982	18249	2733
2009	17849	19830	-1981
2008	21254	19914	1340
2007	23556	19862	3694
2006	23614	19840	3774
2005	30610	20072	10538
2004	31699	20108	11591
2003	30680	18906	11774
2002	30633	15122	15511
2001	15115	13533	1582
2000	15132	13908	1224
1999	15140	11973	3167
1998	15159	11149	4010
1997	15099	8857	6242
1996	14820	9406	5414
1995	14685	8269	6416
1994	14751	11692	3059
1993	15382	13706	1676
1992	14070	11789	2281
1991	15413	9689	5724
1990	16463	8959	7504
1989	15590	10201	5389
1988	14544	15923	-1379
1987	14950	13404	1546
1986	14877	13614	1263
1985	18046	15185	2861
1984	18089	13196	4893
1983	18799	14095	4704
1982	21835	8544	13291
1981	21482	13514	7968
1980	21335	15850	5485
1979	21330	10123	11207
1978	21167	9678	11489
1977	19480	11564	7916
1976	17648	10472	7176
1975	15910	12474	3436
1974	21128	13675	7453
1973	18118	9477	8641
1972	21191	11918	9273
1971	22267	13759	8508
1970	22901	14928	7973
1969	22492	19163	3329
1968	24665	22988	1677
1967	25527	14831	10696
1966	18919	14644	4275
1965	17123	13058	4065
1964	17217	14681	2536
1963	15267	16043	-776
1962	13763	16782	-3019
1961	18665	15028	3637
1960	18052	16156	1896
1959	21540	24016	-2476
1958	14851	28499	-13648
1957	14784	25024	-10240
1956	11612	26260	-14648
1955	14724	29868	-15144
1954	14885	28993	-14108
1953	16159	31578	-15419
1952	19038	32523	-13485
1951	21816	32794	-10978
1950	23894	37004	-13110
1949	25384	37082	-11698
1948	20789	31226	-10437
1947	16597	30198	-13601
1939	14596	23630	-9034
1938	16583	22827	-6244
1937	13025	19692	-6667
1936	10705	19358	-8653
1935	9088	17995	-8907
1934	9979	18243	-8264
1933	9064	18102	-9038
1932	10880	17478	-6598
1931	12150	18779	-6629
1930	12073	18495	-6422
1929	14875	20225	-5350
1928	10177	22752	-12575
1927	9837	16792	-6955
1926	9965	14457	-4492
1925	9635	16685	-7050
1924	10420	12770	-2350
1923	12645	12195	450
1922	11385	14060	-2675
1921	12585	15445	-2860

Avr	17671	17416	254
Avr 25y	20286	14320	5966
Avr 50y	19964	13975	5989
Avr 36y	14486	22196	-7710

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Missed this from last week so apologies if already posted....contains a few chortles and facepalms....

 

http://thegreensoccerjournal.com/decider-article/back-in-black/

 

For the event a special image had been commissioned, with the name and home ground of every club melded into one of those now-ubiquitous word shapes – this one the outline of the UK.

 

But there was one significant omission.

 

You see, St Mary’s and Southampton butted up against The AmEx and Brighton, in the space where Pompey should have been; there was no mention of ‘Portsmouth’ or ‘Fratton Park’. The first winners of the FA Cup – and only league champions (1949 and 1950, look it up) – from south of London had been wiped, literally, off the football map.

 

This story came back to me in September last year, when Clarke’s name popped up on a press briefing as the official photographer for Sport England’s ‘City of Football’ project. For one of the cities in the running – along with Manchester and Nottingham – was Portsmouth.

 

Yes. You read correctly. Portsmouth.

 

And although we missed out on the ultimate accolade – not to mention the £1.6 million of funding that came with it – which eventually went to Nottingham, that Portsmouth was even on the podium signalled a quite remarkable transformation in the club’s reputation.

 

To be fair, Portsmouth has always commanded respect in football’s community circles.

 

Pompey in the Community, the now-independent charity that runs projects for various youth and adult groups in the city, picked up the Family Club of the Year award during our spell in the Championship, as well as the South West Community Club of the Year gong at the 2012 Football League Awards.

 

Well-deserved though these accolades were, they were powerless to prevent a handful of snide remarks – as the second period of administration got underway – about local small businesses and charities that had been diddled out of their cash.

With the backing of Supporters’ Direct, a community shares :mcinnes: plan was hatched. By the summer of 2012, more than 1500 fans had pledged almost £2 million to the cause.

 

Oh, and in just 62 days during the close season a crowd funding campaign raised £250,000 for a couple of new pitches for the club’s academy – at a training ground built on the back of a further £750,000 raised in equity. Those who scoffed, at the time, that fans ‘could never run a club’ and that the Pompey project would collapse in a little more than a few months are now left eating their words.

 

At the end of September 2014, however, Pompey announced it was finally debt-free; a final tranche of around £8m of legacy debts to former players had been cleared 18 months ahead of schedule.

 

About time someone informed Companies House about that last quote....it's still showing 3 PFA charges against the club despite the "debts being cleared" 5 months ago...

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No mention of stores still to be built that might be mothballed. Construction has stopped on one of their local stores in a nearby village to me. Has construction started on the flagship store in desirable Fratton?

 

They're just applying the finishing touches....

 

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No mention of stores still to be built that might be mothballed. Construction has stopped on one of their local stores in a nearby village to me. Has construction started on the flagship store in desirable Fratton?

 

But Tesco aren't building the store, Robinson is building the store and leasing it to Tesco, Tesco's current store closures wouldn't stop Robinson building it as he feels that he can lease it to another supermarket.....or that is what I have gleaned from what I have read..

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But Tesco aren't building the store, Robinson is building the store and leasing it to Tesco, Tesco's current store closures wouldn't stop Robinson building it as he feels that he can lease it to another supermarket.....or that is what I have gleaned from what I have read..

 

I guess that depends on the wording of the planning permission approval. Did the council give specific approval for a building that would become a Tesco store or would it have been more generic than that? The latter probably sounds more likely I suppose.

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I guess that depends on the wording of the planning permission approval. Did the council give specific approval for a building that would become a Tesco store or would it have been more generic than that? The latter probably sounds more likely I suppose.

 

Ah, here's the answer....

 

http://democracy.portsmouth.gov.uk/ieListDocuments.aspx?MId=2529

 

14/00128/FUL - Land Adjacent Fratton Park, Fratton Way, Southsea

Construction of a retail store (use class A1) of up to 10,475sqm gea, petrol filling station (sui generis) with an associated kiosk up to 86sqm gea, canopy and jet wash, new access/ egress arrangements, car parking including replacement stadium car parking, service yard, highway and footpath works, landscaping, and other associated works (after demolition of existing structures)

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But Tesco aren't building the store, Robinson is building the store and leasing it to Tesco, Tesco's current store closures wouldn't stop Robinson building it as he feels that he can lease it to another supermarket.....or that is what I have gleaned from what I have read..

 

Will he find another tenant?

 

Tesco aren't building more stores. Morrisons have been getting cold feet and I'm sure I've read that Sainsburys won't either.

 

Can you see Waitrose building at Fratton?? :)

 

Although having said that, Lidl seem to be expanding. Lidl Fratton Park has a better ring to it ...

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