Closing in on a Manager

Apologies for a new thread but wanted to create a new poll with what looks like the final candidates and give Yakin is chance to shine. Hopefully we'll have made an appointment by the time this thread closes.

Reed said they had 6-10 on original shorlist

Had loads of top end applicants and final 4 all featured in the original shortlist.

Lets just hope the orinal shorlist was ambitious

Feels like its close. Just paper work holding it up Reed said

'Paperwork' makes it feel more like a foreign appointment.

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The way Les Reed is talking about the due diligence process in employment and how unknown Mauricio Pochettino was in the video makes me wonder if we are going to get someone a little more obscure then Koeman or even Yakin.

The way Les Reed is talking about the due diligence process in employment and how unknown Mauricio Pochettino was in the video makes me wonder if we are going to get someone a little more obscure then Koeman or even Yakin.

Quite possibly, but one thing I do know for sure is that I'd trust the clubs scouting and recruitment department over you, me, or any other fan. And given that the same department found Pochettino, I'm quietly confident.

The way Les Reed is talking about the due diligence process in employment and how unknown Mauricio Pochettino was in the video makes me wonder if we are going to get someone a little more obscure then Koeman or even Yakin.

That's the way I heard it too when he mentioned that they have kept an eye on up and coming managers. Could be a surprise after all. Still hoping for Ronnie though!

Yep, wouldn't surprise me if it was someone way off the radar

That's the way I heard it too when he mentioned that they have kept an eye on up and coming managers. Could be a surprise after all. Still hoping for Ronnie though!

Id consider Murat Yakin an up and coming manager? Hes only 39. Koeman would probably not be talked about in them terms, ranieri defo not.

But like you said, could also be a complete surprise.

I voted for Koeman again, but seeing the Reed interview makes it sound like Yakin to me.

Still think it will be RonKo.

Also, is it just me or does the fact that Ron's on holiday indicate that he'll be the one appointed. I mean, contract agreed with only "paperwork" left to do, so Ron's having a break ready to get to work when he returns? Perhaps a bit too 'tin foil hat', but...

praying its Rafa was told he had an interview last week lol! bring Higuain with him then and destroy our wage cap

Koeman or Yakin would be fine for me.

Yakin's agent consistently said he had no contact from us, and he doesn't speak great English.

Koeman could still be regarded as up and coming IMO.

Yakin was the original choice....if you look back,I posted so......in fact I was the first person to mention him,Koeman has now put us in a dilemma.

Hence the slight delay...

The decision is made,it's just the timing.

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The way Les Reed is talking about the due diligence process in employment and how unknown Mauricio Pochettino was in the video makes me wonder if we are going to get someone a little more obscure then Koeman or even Yakin.

You would still do due diligence on Koeman, it would actually take longer as there is more to go through and more people to speak to.

The "up and coming" bit is more curious, Yakin would qualify but it would certainly rule out Koeman, Ranieri, Benitez, Magath and Gerry Francis.

As I asked on the other thread:

What does Yakin give us over Koeman ?

In terms of record and achievement Koeman seems ahead by some distance.

Right or wrong for us is perhaps another matter.

Koeman would comand attention/respect from the squad, ahead of less experienced names, and that is important now to help stem an exodus.

But as others have said the LR interview gives impression of seeking a MP mkII. Of all the articles read about the names listed Tuchel would seem to meet some of the criterea.

But as others have said the LR interview gives impression of seeking a MP mkII. Of all the articles read about the names listed Tuchel would seem to meet some of the criterea.

The manager of Mainz?

The manager of Mainz?

left at end of the season.

left at end of the season.

Other then knowing that Mainz have done well in recent times I know little about the guy. What is his style of play?

As I asked on the other thread:

 

What does Yakin give us over Koeman ?

 

In terms of record and achievement Koeman seems ahead by some distance.

 

Right or wrong for us is perhaps another matter.

 

Koeman would comand attention/respect from the squad, ahead of less experienced names, and that is important now to help stem an exodus.

 

But as others have said the LR interview gives impression of seeking a MP mkII. Of all the articles read about the names listed Tuchel would seem to meet some of the criterea.

Just the youth v experience debate. Koeman has some failure on his CV but that's what happens if you've been a manager for a while.

Yakin could build his reputation here like MP has. Koeman is more of a big name big personality. Either could succeed or fail.

If they pull Tuchel out of the bag I'd be delighted. He's dropped off the radar amongst all the rumours surrounding Ranieri and Gerry Francis.

Other then knowing that Mainz have done well in recent times I know little about the guy. What is his style of play?

There were quite a few links on the previous thread if you can be bothered going through it.

Yakin's agent consistently said he had no contact from us, and he doesn't speak great English.

 

Koeman could still be regarded as up and coming IMO.

So could Tim Sherwood

There were quite a few links on the previous thread if you can be bothered going through it.

Yeah.... I'll stick to this article I just found by googling. Looks familiar...

http://timhi.wordpress.com/2010/09/30/mainz-full-backs-pressing/

So could Tim Sherwood

Seeing as he's now being touted around for the WBA job, I doubt very much if he's in the running any more - but strongly believe he was one of the applicants.

Seeing as he's now being touted around for the WBA job, I doubt very much if he's in the running any more - but strongly believe he was one of the applicants.

Probably one of the 'crank' applicants that Reed had a laugh about.

 

Koeman could still be regarded as up and coming IMO.

51 and seven jobs in three major European leagues, so no.

Moyes ................!

Probably one of the 'crank' applicants that Reed had a laugh about.

TBF, he's not a bad manager really. Unfairly sacked by Spurs IMO, made a very good crack of a mess of a squad. But he's a skate, so yeah, I'd file him under crank.

Moyes ................!

He would be my choice.

The way Les Reed is talking about the due diligence process in employment and how unknown Mauricio Pochettino was in the video makes me wonder if we are going to get someone a little more obscure then Koeman or even Yakin.

Hmm he also mentioned applicants who had won European leagues and competitions, and vast experience playing in the Champions League. Think if Reed is serious about a manager that can convince the likes of Luke and Adam to stay then the new manager will need to have some sort of profile in the game already.

Moyes ................!

As a stability choice, then yeah - but from hearing Les, I feel the club want to continue the attacking aspect - Moyes isn't going to bring a free-flowing side to St Mary's. Dogged, robust, hard to beat, but ultimately quite dull. Not sure that is the 'Southampton way' Les' was referring to.

Hmm he also mentioned applicants who had won European leagues and competitions, and vast experience playing in the Champions League. Think if Reed is serious about a manager that can convince the likes of Luke and Adam to stay then the new manager will need to have some sort of profile in the game already.

Koeman, Frank De Boer are the 2 that stick out who hit that criteria.

51 and seven jobs in three major European leagues, so no.

That does seem a lot, but it is 7 jobs since 2000. What is the average PL manager's tenure? Googling it, the Mirror in December 2013 states it's now 1 year (down from 2.07 according to a BBC article from 2011). In a Ralph moment of positive thinking, maybe the Cowman hasn't found the right club. Certainly some clubs don't suit managers (Hodgson & Liverpool, Moyes & Man Utd), so maybe the converse is also true.

Koeman needing an assistant manager?

Sorted.

Aren't we supposed to appoint the new manager before the World Cup?

Aren't we supposed to appoint the new manager before the World Cup?

Tbf those reports dont state which WC...

I would imagine Tuchel would be on Saints radar as he definitely appears to be a German Pochettino .

Could well have been in the frame.

Yakin for me please, I'd be happy with Koeman too but don't want Ranieri or anyone else that's been linked

That does seem a lot, but it is 7 jobs since 2000. What is the average PL manager's tenure? Googling it, the Mirror in December 2013 states it's now 1 year (down from 2.07 according to a BBC article from 2011). In a Ralph moment of positive thinking, maybe the Cowman hasn't found the right club. Certainly some clubs don't suit managers (Hodgson & Liverpool, Moyes & Man Utd), so maybe the converse is also true.

That's all fine. I was saying no to the idea he is "up and coming". 14 years in management says he isn't. He is an established manager.

I think they said they monitor up and coming managers but not that they are necessarily are going to employ one this time?

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Might be in the minority but I have serious doubts about koeman not got a good record of staying anywhere very long and although he's had success he was very poor at a a couple of clubs too, why swap one ship jumper for another?

Might be in the minority but I have serious doubts about koeman not got a good record of staying anywhere very long and although he's had success he was very poor at a a couple of clubs too, why swap one ship jumper for another?

I think that might be the case whoever we pick.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/southampton-manager-search-steve-bruce-3671371

That would contradict a very large portion of Les Reed's statement earlier.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/southampton-manager-search-steve-bruce-3671371

In my eyes, after just hearing what Les Reed just said in the interview, there is no way that Bruce would be top of the list. Just wouldn't make sense at all.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/southampton-manager-search-steve-bruce-3671371

Yikes!!!, I hope thats just paper talk. I would be very unhappy with Bruce.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/southampton-manager-search-steve-bruce-3671371

Bruce, 53, has interrupted a family holiday in Portugal to return to Hull to tell chief executive Ehab Allam that he is happy at the KC Stadium and to discuss summer transfers.

why would ANYONE ever do that

Bruce, 53, has interrupted a family holiday in Portugal to return to Hull to tell chief executive Ehab Allam that he is happy at the KC Stadium and to discuss summer transfers.

 

why would ANYONE ever do that

That could mean just a phone call.

Pathetically illogical story