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    Default Black keeps his job

    Pelligrino announced his backroom staff today..and Black remains

    "Meanwhile Eric Black – who was appointed alongside Claude Puel last summer – will remain at the club whilst taking on the role of Senior First Team Coach. Despite controversies during his maiden season on the south coast, it’s believed that Black was kept on due to his popularity with the players and staff.

    The Scot was linked with a bribing scandal late last year but claims have since simmered down, meaning the former Aston Villa assistant will remain a vital part of Southampton’s coaching team for the foreseeable future.




    http://saintsmarching.com/2017/07/15...oaching-staff/

    https://southamptonfc.com/news/2017-...taff-confirmed
    Last edited by patred44; 15-07-2017 at 02:05 PM.

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    Thats a mistake.

    He was hired by puel and should leave with Puel

    We need a clean start

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    lucky man IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by patred44 View Post
    lucky man IMO
    Based on what?

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    Brilliant news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    Thats a mistake.

    He was hired by puel and should leave with Puel

    We need a clean start
    The players wanted him to stay

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    So funny this, don't get the hate towards the bloke, how does anyone know that he has a negative effect!?

    I have no insider knowledge and he might be a total **** but think it's funny how some of our fans moan about him like hes the only reason we were sh!t last season!!!

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    Hired by Puel or the club? If they didn't think he was doing a good job why would they keep him, despite what some on here who are supposedly ITK will have us believe.

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    V popular with the players plus his knowledge of British football are two good reasons to keep him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fitzhugh Fella View Post
    V popular with the players plus his knowledge of British football are two good reasons to keep him.
    And to pi ss Glasgow off, is another.

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    As a player of course he knows about winning both European competitions - he even scored in the final - as well as winning a National Cup with a relatively small club. He is also a very well regarded coach (which is I believe what the club are employing him to be) and in his only real managerial job (I am discounting his brief spell at Motherwell who were falling apart at the time following a spell of 'management' by Billy Davies) was very popular with the fans because of the attractive style of play Coventry adopted under him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lets B Avenue View Post
    And to pi ss Glasgow off, is another.
    He needs to accept that the club's decision is final and get over it.

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    Don't see what in his cv justifies him for a role for a top half premier league club.
    It may be that his coaching far outstrips the mediocrity of achievement clubs he's been involved with have produced but it's worrying that something not very important such as popularity is being used as justification for keeping him rather than bigging up his skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baird of the land View Post
    Don't see what in his cv justifies him for a role for a top half premier league club.
    It may be that his coaching far outstrips the mediocrity of achievement clubs he's been involved with have produced but it's worrying that something not very important such as popularity is being used as justification for keeping him rather than bigging up his skills.
    SFC " So Mr Black, we are a top half premier club, what justifies you for a role as our Senior First Team Coach?"

    EB "Well, let's see, how about last season I was Assistant Manager at a club that finished in the top half of the Premier League"

    SFC "You're re-hired"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baird of the land View Post
    Don't see what in his cv justifies him for a role for a top half premier league club.
    It may be that his coaching far outstrips the mediocrity of achievement clubs he's been involved with have produced but it's worrying that something not very important such as popularity is being used as justification for keeping him rather than bigging up his skills.
    Ah the Terry Paine - Lawrie McMenemy syndrome strikes!
    You could say the same about Mourinho bit of a playing career in Portuguese lower divisions then not much else till he turns up as Bobby Robsons interpreter at Sporting........... and the rest is history.

    I always thought of him as a dour miserable unispiring bloke, but seeing as overall the club aren't a bunch of numpties and they have worked with him for the past year, then I will happily trust their judgement on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baird of the land View Post
    Don't see what in his cv justifies him for a role for a top half premier league club.
    It may be that his coaching far outstrips the mediocrity of achievement clubs he's been involved with have produced but it's worrying that something not very important such as popularity is being used as justification for keeping him rather than bigging up his skills.
    Why is it not very important? If the players enjoy working with him and the new management staff are happy for him to stay, then what's the problem?

    Or, why is his unpopularity amongst fans (for some reason) of any significance at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pamplemousse View Post
    The players wanted him to stay
    Wouldn't it be cheaper to hire a full time clown to entertain them?

    Keep him as hes best qualified and best ee could possibly hire... Not because he's friends with the players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Boy Saint View Post
    Ah the Terry Paine - Lawrie McMenemy syndrome strikes!
    You could say the same about Mourinho bit of a playing career in Portuguese lower divisions then not much else till he turns up as Bobby Robsons interpreter at Sporting........... and the rest is history.

    But Black was a bloody good footballer.



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    Hmm....whose judgement do I trust? The club that employs him and knows what he does....or a number of "characters" on here who think that they know? What a dilemma!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Duckhunter View Post
    But Black was a bloody good footballer.



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    So was John Barnes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    Wouldn't it be cheaper to hire a full time clown to entertain them?

    Keep him as hes best qualified and best ee could possibly hire... Not because he's friends with the players.
    Depends how much you charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    Wouldn't it be cheaper to hire a full time clown to entertain them?

    Keep him as hes best qualified and best ee could possibly hire... Not because he's friends with the players.
    That presumably is how you would run a football club: clowns plus no doubt beer and videos. Plus crisps and peanuts. Oh, don't forget the McDoanlds.

    Everyone is happy! Yay! We're going to win the league!

    I dont think that is the way it works.

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    The usual suspects are out with their negative posts based on nothing because they have no access to any facts. The retention of Ian Black isn't fresh news because it was known some time ago that he was changing roles from assistant manager to senior first team coach with the reasons for the decision being continuity, experience of the Premier League and a good relationship with the players. This looks like a good move because it has also allowed Pellegrino to have his two trusted coaches from Alaves to work with him.
    Just in case Ralph Krueger and Les Reed don't take advice from this forum (however remotely unlikely that is) perhaps those who know better how to run the club should send their advice directly to the Board instead of boring we fans with their opinions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Professor View Post
    based on nothing because they have no access to any facts. The retention of Ian Black
    Brilliant

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    Still really confused by those who claimed last season that all our problems were down to Black? How would it be possible that an assistant manager would have more clout then the manager?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    So was John Barnes
    Can you explain what black has done wrong whilst being at saints, I'm interested in where he's failed to do his job. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saint_Ash View Post
    Can you explain what black has done wrong whilst being at saints, I'm interested in where he's failed to do his job. Thanks.
    Was he part of the Puel failure?

    I have nothing against Black just felt after last season a clean slate was required.

    Felt like Mope deserved to pick his own team not inherit some of Puels crew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    Brilliant
    Iriany.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fitzhugh Fella View Post
    V popular with the players plus his knowledge of British football are two good reasons to keep him.
    Oh come come - A 'knowledge of British Football Its not bloody rocket science !!!!!
    Popular with the players is also no reason to keep him....
    New manager should intimate that something was wrong with previous set up..
    why keep any part of it .... ???
    A bad decision unless you want last year's philosophies to be a part of this year's.....
    Old management team still around after brining in new management team doesn't make any sense at all...

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    It was just the skates and trolls on here pushing the "Black's a problem" line. Never anything out in the press and here the club confirms it's in fact the contrary and he's well liked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by captainchris View Post
    Oh come come - A 'knowledge of British Football Its not bloody rocket science !!!!!
    Popular with the players is also no reason to keep him....
    New manager should intimate that something was wrong with previous set up..
    why keep any part of it .... ???
    A bad decision unless you want last year's philosophies to be a part of this year's.....
    Old management team still around after brining in new management team doesn't make any sense at all...
    Continuity.. British... Experience... Player knowledge...Popular..
    Not all was bad last year, why chuck the baby out with the bathwater ?
    Most companies would see this a very sensible succession plan, why not you and the king troll ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by captainchris View Post
    Oh come come - A 'knowledge of British Football Its not bloody rocket science !!!!!
    Popular with the players is also no reason to keep him....
    New manager should intimate that something was wrong with previous set up..
    why keep any part of it .... ???
    A bad decision unless you want last year's philosophies to be a part of this year's.....
    Old management team still around after brining in new management team doesn't make any sense at all...
    Have to agree on this, I remember him coming here and the villa fans laughing saying he'll help take us down, I don't know but there has to be something in it

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    Quote Originally Posted by danjosaint View Post
    Have to agree on this, I remember him coming here and the villa fans laughing saying he'll help take us down, I don't know but there has to be something in it
    They got that wrong then, why should we listen to prats from other (lower division) teams !

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    Quote Originally Posted by danjosaint View Post
    I don't know but there has to be something in it
    The answer is probably in the first three words of your sentance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eurosaint View Post
    Continuity.. British... Experience... Player knowledge...Popular..
    Not all was bad last year, why chuck the baby out with the bathwater ?
    Most companies would see this a very sensible succession plan, why not you and the king troll ??
    Please keep your personal insults to yourself. If you can't have an opinion without throwing abuse around to other legitimate posters then take yourself off the forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by captainchris View Post
    Please keep your personal insults to yourself. If you can't have an opinion without throwing abuse around to other legitimate posters then take yourself off the forum.
    he did`nt insult you, dont get so prissy, he just stated a sensible view, you should try it

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    Quote Originally Posted by danjosaint View Post
    Have to agree on this, I remember him coming here and the villa fans laughing saying he'll help take us down, I don't know but there has to be something in it
    Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fitzhugh Fella View Post
    V popular with the players plus his knowledge of British football are two good reasons to keep him.
    That is not actually a fact, that he is popular with the players. It is an opinion not backed up by any actual fact. When I see 4 players tweeting how they are pleased he is staying, I might
    change my view that he is Les Reed's "spycam".

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    Quote Originally Posted by larry12 View Post
    That is not actually a fact, that he is popular with the players. It is an opinion not backed up by any actual fact. When I see 4 players tweeting how they are pleased he is staying, I might
    change my view that he is Les Reed's "spycam".
    You appear to have a Les Reed fetish.

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    Pretty sure AR-10 new for a FACT this wasn't the case.

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    Adam Blackmore seems to disagree... How did the agenda against him gain so much momentum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by saintgeorge8 View Post
    Adam Blackmore seems to disagree... How did the agenda against him gain so much momentum?

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    Weirdos, that's how.

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