Thedelldays Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 I really hope so...he offers so much pace and work rate sure he can have an off game but the effort he puts in during a game is unreal... he is such a threat going forward with his pace and unpredictable dribbling ability I really hope he stays and does not go back to reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisPY Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 You've got to expect inconsistency with youngsters but Antonio is showing great potential and should be a serious target for Pardew to sign. IMO he will definitely leave Reading however we'll have to persuade him Saints are the right club for him as he'll have a few offers to consider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labibs Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 Is he out of contract at the end of the season? I would imagine Pardew would want to keep him, so it may depend on what sort of price we may have to pay (would there be a development fee due to Reading, or did they pinch him from somewhere in the non-league? I've got a feeling it's the latter...) He's very raw, but he's pacy, direct and isn't afraid to get into the box. At his age, has the potential to come on a lot as well. I'd be disappointed if he wasn't with us next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madruss Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 I really hope so...he offers so much pace and work rate sure he can have an off game but the effort he puts in during a game is unreal... he is such a threat going forward with his pace and unpredictable dribbling ability I really hope he stays and does not go back to reading I think he has to be signed up. He's got no footballing brain but he more than makes up for that with pace, power and strength. With a couple of years experience under his belt and some proper coaching he could be an awesome player. Reminds me so much of kenwyne when he first joined, and look what happened to him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 Is he out of contract at the end of the season? I would imagine Pardew would want to keep him, so it may depend on what sort of price we may have to pay (would there be a development fee due to Reading, or did they pinch him from somewhere in the non-league? I've got a feeling it's the latter...) He's very raw, but he's pacy, direct and isn't afraid to get into the box. At his age, has the potential to come on a lot as well. I'd be disappointed if he wasn't with us next season. He is out of contract with Reading in the summer yes. I would be surprised if Saints hadn't already had a few preliminary chats with him about a contract offer to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanh Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 Depends if we get promoted or not. If we are in L1 next year I'd sign him, but I'd think twice if we got promoted as I don't think he's good enough for the CCC at the moment. I can see the comparison to KJ to an extent and it would be great to think that he will develop in the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 April, 2010 Author Share Posted 14 April, 2010 Depends if we get promoted or not. If we are in L1 next year I'd sign him, but I'd think twice if we got promoted as I don't think he's good enough for the CCC at the moment. I can see the comparison to KJ to an extent and it would be great to think that he will develop in the same way. even for a free..he would be a great squad player for the CCC IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 As with all wingers he is a little inconsistent but if he is out of contract at the end of the season then I'm sure he will be asking "Where do I sign?". In L1 or the CCC he has genuine pace - which scares the **** out of most if not all defences. The other aspect is that he's still learning and IMHO will only get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 Is he out of contract at the end of the season? I would imagine Pardew would want to keep him, so it may depend on what sort of price we may have to pay (would there be a development fee due to Reading, or did they pinch him from somewhere in the non-league? I've got a feeling it's the latter...) He's very raw, but he's pacy, direct and isn't afraid to get into the box. At his age, has the potential to come on a lot as well. I'd be disappointed if he wasn't with us next season. He's not all that raw, does good things which sometimes just lack a bit of savvy(which he will soon acquire) to come off, like that sombrero yesterday which he put just wide. Only thing that worries me is that Reading may have a contract extension option of some sort , don't think they can ask for a tribunal fee though as he's only been with them 18 months or so. But the bloke looks like a natural footballer who we should sign if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 If nobody leaves in summer and we sign Antonio and Papa, I'd be pretty happy (assuming we're still in League 1). I'd sign them both up for the Championship too along with a few others (and get rid of a couple of others too). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 hope not. Not convinced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 I would be very surprised if Antonio did not sign for Saints, I think he has progressed better than expected and will definately be offered terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 I don't think we will sign Antonio and Papa, and Antonio will be cheaper than waigo. Whilst money might not be the major consideration, I am sure that Pardew and NC will be working against a budget that includes transfer fees and wages and if thats the case, would probably spend the money somewhere else across the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 If we were to go up, it would be to the nPC next season, not the CCC. Doesn't trip off the toungue so well, does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 hope not. Not convinced No change there then stevo. What is about him that is not convincing you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 I am happy to be proven wrong once in a while. I think he still seems a little inconsistant at times but has definately came on leaps since i first saw him play in his first few games. He has the raw aspects you want in a player, pace and power, he has an eye for goal and works hard, he still has a lot to learn however but i can definately see the potential a la the 'c*nt that went on strike' mould. Was KJ not a midfielder when he came here ?? If we get him on a free i would definately sign him up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 Antonio should sign for the journey he could go the whole way with saints into the prem in a couple of years time with his pace & power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 Was KJ not a midfielder when he came here ?? Nope, he was a runner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 Nope, he was a runner. Lol, even better. still a c*nt though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 (edited) I can understand people saying Antonio and Jones are similar in that they are raw talents. However they are certainly not the same type of player. Kenwyne is a striker and his main attribute is his aerial ability. Antonio is very much a winger and not that good in the air. Edited 14 April, 2010 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 i can remember the day we extended his loan deal in january. there was a saints twitter post saying there'd be some transfer news, and when i saw it was antonio's loan extension i was a little underwhelmed. i needn't have been. turns out it was a great little signing. really hope he stays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohwhenthesaints Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 hope not. Not convinced Surely you can see the potential there though? We've all seen how well he can play on his day and with time and coaching we will see this on a much more regular basis. Get him on board I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 I can understand people saying Antonio and Jones are similar in that they are raw talents. However they are certainly not the same type of player. Kenwyne's is a striker and his main attribute is his aerial ability. Antonio is very much a winger and not that good in the air. Although their scoring records aren't miles apart. I still can't see all the fuss about Jones, tbh. 2 seasons in the Prem and he didn't hit double figures in either of them. Hardly the prolific talent some would have us believe that we lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 14 April, 2010 Author Share Posted 14 April, 2010 Although their scoring records aren't miles apart. I still can't see all the fuss about Jones, tbh. 2 seasons in the Prem and he didn't hit double figures in either of them. Hardly the prolific talent some would have us believe that we lost. he was one of those "best 3 players" burley used to blubber about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 he was one of those "best 3 players" burley used to blubber about A few here still do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 I can understand people saying Antonio and Jones are similar in that they are raw talents. However they are certainly not the same type of player. Kenwyne's is a striker and his main attribute is his aerial ability. Antonio is very much a winger and not that good in the air. I think most are talking about the way that he has a raw potential and could develop into a good little player. Not in the fact that he is a similar player, although, tbf to Kenwyne he has decent pace and a lot of power, but yes, arially he is a bit of a monster. Burley was right at the time, he was probably one of our top 3 players, along with Bale. And these were the two that Derby purposely went out to kick out of the game, for this reason i will always detest Davies and Derby for what was nothing more than a completely unsporting performance. Jones however is a good player, he is essentially a poor mans Drogba and i would argue he would probably go to a half decent team in the summer if Sunderland continue to struggle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxfordshire_saint Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 We'd be mad not to sign Antonio and he'd be mad not to sign for us. Plus points for us: he's young, he's free, he's versatile, he has a knack of scoring important goals, he seems to have a genuine desire to play for the club, Pardew seems to know how to get the best out of him (something which Reading clearly weren't doing) Plus points for him: we'd probably pay well, he already knows the club, Pardew seems to know how to get the best out of him (something which Reading clearly weren't doing) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 Reading don't rate him it would seem. He appears very happy here we gave him his best birthday ever. If we want him (and why wouldn't we?) then I'm sure he would love to come here. Antonio has improved in leaps and bounds since he came here and I think thats down to AP, given time I think AP will make him an even better player. I do hope he gets a better goal celebration though..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 Antonio would be foolish if he didn't sign for us IMO. Pards clearly knows how to get the best out of him, and under his stewardship he's come on leaps and bounds during his loan spell here. Not to mention that Michail already knows everyone at the club and if he's got any sense, he'll sign a permanent contract and come along for the ride as we bid to reach the promised land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seany S Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 Antonio is full of raw potential. Another year or two playing with this group of players, under the tutelage of Pardew, and who knows how good he could be. I love his commitment to the cause, and how much playing at Wembley obviously meant to him. I hope we sign him....and deep down am pretty convinced we almost certainly will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 I can't think of any reason not to sign him, he's had a few bad games (Colchester away was beyond shocking) but he's had way more good games than bad. What more could you espext from a 19/20 year old winger? He's got pace, power, works hard, gets his fair share of goals and all this is achieved from either starting or as in impact player. Compare him to say Jake Thomson, Lee Holmes or Jamie White who are a similar age and position but no way near the same level as Antonio, he's streets ahead of all of them. He has to sign really, one of Pardews best finds so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 Antonio hints in the post match charlton interview on saints player that he'd love to be in the red and white next season. I'd certainly sign him up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 He has much more of a chance than Papa Waigo methinks. Watching Papa in the half-time kick around I thought he looked disinterested and when he came on, I'm not sure he added too much either. Having said that, he has performed well for us and I would probably give them both contracts if the deal was right for Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerBadger Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 Get him in - only gonna improve under Pards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docker Walker6 Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 He will not be signed at the end of the season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
explorer saint Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 More to the point reckon we should be asking if Rickie will be a saint next season if we dont go up, rumour is Everton are at the front of the queue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 Now we have the players in the team who may be able to carry him when he isn't doing too well, I think he is worth signing permanently. The comparison to Jones is a good one - remember Antonio has only been in league football a few years. He could be crafted into an explosive player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
explorer saint Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 More to the point reckon we should be asking if Rickie will be a saint next season if we dont go up, rumour is Everton are at the front of the queue! Oh yes should sign him seems to rise to the bigger occasion, think in 2-3 years will be a superb player if he can get his head around it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaford Saint Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 Not one person has the same view as me regardnig Antonio. I think he has gone a little backwards since he arrived. I really rate him and I noticed as did my son how we had all of a sudden a winger who could and would beat opponents. This has lessened as time has gone on and I suspect its down to the opposition closing him down quicker. I really rate him, his work rate and commitment are second to none. I hope we sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 He will not be signed at the end of the season! Is that just your opinion or something you have heard ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1Minus10 Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 He's done more in one season than that useless ***** Nathan Dyer ever did. Sign him up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 We should DEFINITELY keep Antonio. Even in the time he's been here, he's improved. When he came, he was roughly 50% hit, 50% miss. I'd say now it's more like 75% hit, 25% miss. AND he'd be available on a free. Can't say fairer than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 He's done more in one season than that useless ***** Nathan Dyer ever did. Sign him up... I was thinking the same, when reading this thread earlier. Dyer always flattered to deceive, fast but no end product. Whereas Antonio is fast (but not quite as fast) but has much more power and purpose about his game. He also plays for the team and not for himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 He will not be signed at the end of the season! You're either Bryan McDermott, Michail Antonio or Alan Pardew, otherwise how would you have any idea?!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 I'm not as sure as I was. His recent interview hardly inspires confidence that he wants to be here full time. I think he's already had approaches from CCC clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 The thing to remember with this lad is he has not had the grooming most of his team mates have enjoyed in their younger years to be professional footballers, he has had a football upbringing from the age of 12 with a feeder team to a conference side, until very recently he was playing with Tooting & Mitcham until Reading snapped him up. He is going to have rough edges and corners that need rounding off, but that will come if we take him on and invest time in him. Pardew is probably one of the best people to make the most of Antonio as his own professional football career did not start until he was 25 years old, after spending his earlier years non-league football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 I was thinking the same, when reading this thread earlier. Dyer always flattered to deceive, fast but no end product. Whereas Antonio is fast (but not quite as fast) but has much more power and purpose about his game. He also plays for the team and not for himself. Nathan Dyer is a regular (35 starts) in a Swansea side that is in the Playoffs of the Championship. He is and was a good player imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 I'm gonna stick my neck out now and say that Antonio could well be playing in the Prem in a few years, whether or us or someone else i'm not sure. His all-round game is awesome, he tracks back, he has pace AND strength, he can beat his man (and several others after that) with ease, he has a brilliant cross on him AND he's a f*cking brilliant finisher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 I'm gonna stick my neck out now and say that Antonio could well be playing in the Prem in a few years, whether or us or someone else i'm not sure. His all-round game is awesome, he tracks back, he has pace AND strength, he can beat his man (and several others after that) with ease, he has a brilliant cross on him AND he's a f*cking brilliant finisher. I really can't see that happening. Sorry clarky, but i think you have massively over rated him there, if i had to pick a 442 team, he would not be in it. His crossing isn't great, he is inconsistant and sometimes he struggles to beat his man. On the plus side, he is quick, strong and works hard, but lacks a footballing brain atm, tactically he gets it wrong at times and is technically not great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 I really can't see that happening. Sorry clarky, but i think you have massively over rated him there, if i had to pick a 442 team, he would not be in it. His crossing isn't great, he is inconsistant and sometimes he struggles to beat his man. On the plus side, he is quick, strong and works hard, but lacks a footballing brain atm, tactically he gets it wrong at times and is technically not great. Well obviously, I think you've massively underrated him. But we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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