Why was 'Arry so ****e for us?

[Turkish]

Did well at Bournemouth, got West Ham into Europe, got Pompey promoted and won the FA Cup (please dont go on about bankrupting Pompey, that wasn't his fault, he didn't run the clubs finances if a manager is given money to spend to improve the team they'll spend it) now got Spurs into the champions league. yet for us he was awful, the only place he has failed. And before you all jump on the band wagon a bout what a tosser he is, i seem to remember when Hoddle left a lot of people wanted Redknapp as manager then and were disapointed he didn't get it.

[Saint_Jonny]

We hard crap players (one or two aside) and a chairman with a spending budget smaller than we have in league 1. His hands were tied. End of. No denying the bloke is a decent manager.

[OLYMPIC]

I think he was so poor because to start with as soon as he joined i think he realised what a mistake he had made,also he didn't have a fortune to spend.

[Scummer]

Bournemouth went bust.

West Ham are going bust.

Saints went bust.

Portsmouth went bust.

Tottenham...........?

[fish fingers]

He's a ****, that's why.

[Tony F]

My view on 'Arry is that he was convinced we were a lost cause from the beginning, which was not a good way to start.

 

The way he publicly undermined the team in every interview was cringe-worthy and it became a self-fulfilling prophecy in the end.

[bpsaint]

I think Lowe only bought him here for one reason,to wind up Mandaric. If harry had been giving proper backing by Lowe he could have done a good job for us. A couple of million in the January transfer window the year we went down could have bought us a couple of decent defenders,instead we had to make do with Bernard and ****ing Davenport.

 

Lowe's pompousness didn't go well with Arrys ****ney wideboy attitude and it was doomed from the start. Bringing in Clive Woodward was the final straw for Redknapp.

 

Edit: I think Arry saw coming here as a bit of a 2 finger salute to Mandaric for getting rid of Jim Smith and bringing in Velimer Zajec behind his back.

Edited 6 May, 2010 by bpsaint

[Barry the Badger]

He manages on enthusiasm and energy.

 

He had neither from day one here.

[doddisalegend]

Money we didn't give him the sort of budget he needs to buy succsess, that and the feeling he was never comfortable at Saints and really didn't want to be here.

[AndyNorthernSaints]

He didn't care.

 

If i wanted to relegate a club i would select a defence of Delap, Bernard, Jakcobsen(sp) and Davenport.

I would drop creative players Fernandes and Anders and play Telfer in midfield.

I would drop Kevin Phillips for our last home game when we needed to beat Manure.

I would get Kevin Bond to organise defensive training to ensure we conceded lots of late goals.

 

To ensure a 4-0 defeat on national tv in the 6th round of the cup i would play a weakened team.

 

I would play the youth team at Mansfield and select Delap as captain to ensure our exit from the league cup.

 

I would slag off my players to the media and drop the club captain Dodd who have experienced lots of relegation battles and play Delap at right back.

[alpine_saint]

His style and ways were completely incompatible with the values of the club under the chairmanship of the Beetroot-Faced-Bastard.

[saint_stevo]

could it be because he is a saggy face c*nt who deserves to be scalped by raging blood thirsty mohicans

[SaintRichmond]

Did well at Bournemouth, got West Ham into Europe, got Pompey promoted and won the FA Cup (please dont go on about bankrupting Pompey, that wasn't his fault, he didn't run the clubs finances if a manager is given money to spend to improve the team they'll spend it) now got Spurs into the champions league. yet for us he was awful, the only place he has failed. And before you all jump on the band wagon a bout what a tosser he is, i seem to remember when Hoddle left a lot of people wanted Redknapp as manager then and were disapointed he didn't get it.

 

Why did Arry Boy "Fail" at St Mary's

 

RUPERT LOWE

 

Simples

[Window Cleaner]

Why did Arry Boy "Fail" at St Mary's

 

RUPERT LOWE

 

Simples

 

 

that and too many mediocre players left behind by previous managers guzzling up the money pie as fast as we could bake it.

 

Harry needs to be around good players, we didn't have too many of them.

Edited 6 May, 2010 by Window Cleaner

[Alanh]

He never felt comfortable here and his heart wasn't in it. He wanted to make a point to Mandaric but once he had done that by joining us he didn't have a reason to be here anymore. Lowe's style of managing probably didn't work for him either - chequebook manager v accountant philosphy.

[hughieslastminutegoal]

Before you get carried away..

 

Bournemouth ... went into Admin

West Ham ... were as close as you can get to being in Admin without being in it.

Pompey .. in Admin

Saints went into Admin, though for once not entirely down to Redknapp.

Spurs ..could soon be struggling given what he has spent, if they don't quickly earn enough from Europe.

 

Now before anyone says none of this was his fault:

 

Bournemouth .. I don't know for sure but I'd not be surprised if their constant struggles really had their origins in things done during Redknapp's management period.

 

West Ham .. When he left (sacked) they were as good as relegated and financial woes followed immediately, and Redcrapp had spent a small fortune on rubbish there.

 

Pompey - that is certainly down to his spending, albeit he was allowed to spend till the cows came home by owners who were "possibly" less than kosher.

 

Saints - the one thing Lowe did right was not let that addict to the brown envelope spend any money, though we can see pretty clearly that he couldn't or wouldn't coach and brought in rubbish loans (and just how much did we pay his crocked son to come?)

 

Spurs....watch this space...

 

Even if you give him the benefit of doubt everywhere, he's certainly a bl**dy Jonah.

Edited 6 May, 2010 by hughieslastminutegoal

[saint_stevo]

he also has a twitch.

 

never trust a fat Carnt with a twitch

[Huntingdon]

I don't accept we had a crap team - we had a better team than West Brom (who stayed up) and we had a better team than Pompey (who he kept up the following season)

 

I think he realised he'd made a mistake & his heart was never in it

 

When teams are fighting relegation, there's nothing worse than having a manager who simply doesn't care

[saint_mears]

I think the answer is 'rupert lowe'

[Kaiser Soze]

He got us relegated not because he is a sh1t manager, but because he didn't care and his heart wasn't in the job.

 

Hence why I despise him.

[broncoboy]

Our Harry always needs lots of money to spend.

 

Lots and lots/

 

The great helmsman was never going to come up with the money

 

RL quicky realised Arry was a ****

 

Arry realised RL was a ****

 

**** lockdown

[treggs23]

Before you get carried away..

 

Bournemouth ... went into Admin

West Ham ... were as close as you can get to being in Admin without being in it.

Pompey .. in Admin

Saints went into Admin, though for once not entirely down to Redknapp.

Spurs ..could soon be struggling given what he has spent, if they don't quickly earn enough from Europe.

 

Now before anyone says none of this was his fault:

 

Bournemouth .. I don't know for sure but I'd not be surprised if their constant struggles really had their origins in things done during Redknapp's management period.

 

West Ham .. When he left (sacked) they were as good as relegated and financial woes followed immediately, and Redcrapp had spent a small fortune on rubbish there.

 

Pompey - that is certainly down to his spending, albeit he was allowed to spend till the cows came home by owners who were "possibly" less than kosher.

 

Saints - the one thing Lowe did right was not let that addict to the brown envelope spend any money, though we can see pretty clearly that he couldn't or wouldn't coach and brought in rubbish loans (and just how much did we pay his crocked son to come?)

 

Spurs....watch this space...

 

Even if you give him the benefit of doubt everywhere, he's certainly a bl**dy Jonah.

 

I can't remember exactly but thought West Ham were midtable when he left?? I seem to remember it being quite a surprise that he was sacked...

[*Halo*]

Bournemouth .. I don't know for sure but I'd not be surprised if their constant struggles really had their origins in things done during Redknapp's management period.

 

His taking of an ('estimated') £800k "Golden Handshake" (as quoted in the Bournemouth Echo at the time) probably didn't help much, when he had the remainder of his contract paid up and jumped ship to become Assistant Manager at his 'spiritual home', West Ham.

 

As for why he failed here at Saints, his heart simply was never in it.

[SaintRichmond]

he also has a twitch.

 

never trust a fat Carnt with a twitch

 

On another level, there is a lot to be said for one of those ...............:D

[Thedelldays]

He manages on enthusiasm and energy.

 

He had neither from day one here.

about sums it up for me..

 

he probably looked at our squad and set up and thought it would be a piece of pish keeping us up and looking like he did a great job..

 

then he had to deal with lowe...

[INFLUENCED.COM]

He's a ****, he's always been a ****, he'll probably carry on being a ****, in fact if there was a **** competition he would come second, why second ? because he's a ****

[SaintRichmond]

Before you get carried away..

 

Bournemouth ... went into Admin

West Ham ... were as close as you can get to being in Admin without being in it.

Pompey .. in Admin

Saints went into Admin, though for once not entirely down to Redknapp.

Spurs ..could soon be struggling given what he has spent, if they don't quickly earn enough from Europe.

 

Now before anyone says none of this was his fault:

 

Bournemouth .. I don't know for sure but I'd not be surprised if their constant struggles really had their origins in things done during Redknapp's management period.

 

West Ham .. When he left (sacked) they were as good as relegated and financial woes followed immediately, and Redcrapp had spent a small fortune on rubbish there.

 

Pompey - that is certainly down to his spending, albeit he was allowed to spend till the cows came home by owners who were "possibly" less than kosher.

 

Saints - the one thing Lowe did right was not let that addict to the brown envelope spend any money, though we can see pretty clearly that he couldn't or wouldn't coach and brought in rubbish loans (and just how much did we pay his crocked son to come?)

 

Spurs....watch this space...

 

Even if you give him the benefit of doubt everywhere, he's certainly a bl**dy Jonah.

 

Re " Spurs ... watch this space ... "

 

The Board at WHLane have not exactly stopped Redknap from spending have they, and the current result is Top Euro Football for next season

 

The Achilles heel is IF they fail ..... which was the scenario that destroyed Leeds

 

Pompey ??? Watch for the biggest Fiddle since Nero A "forced" CVA, a quick in and out of liquidation, then an even quicker reformation, no further points deduction, and a level playing field for the CCC Fit For Purpose my Arse

 

Rupert's big mistake ???? He didn't put us circa £149M in debt .... seems to work for others

 

By comparison, we went into Admin on a pittance, and got stuffed -10 by the FA

 

Sweet F A .... which is exactly what they are:cool:

[Ken Tone]

Did well at Bournemouth, got West Ham into Europe, got Pompey promoted and won the FA Cup (please dont go on about bankrupting Pompey, that wasn't his fault, he didn't run the clubs finances if a manager is given money to spend to improve the team they'll spend it) now got Spurs into the champions league. yet for us he was awful, the only place he has failed. And before you all jump on the band wagon a bout what a tosser he is, i seem to remember when Hoddle left a lot of people wanted Redknapp as manager then and were disapointed he didn't get it.

 

Redknapp has done well (for a while) at clubs where he has had a (very) free hand financially. Lowe would not have given him the scope to do the sort of "interesting" deals he did at Portsmouth for example ..and thank God for that.

 

For all his faults I can't see Lowe having many plain brown envelopes in the club's finance office.

 

K.

[Miltonaggro]

He was a chequebook manager at a skinflint club (at the time)...

[yorkiesaint]

Re " Spurs ... watch this space ... "

 

The Board at WHLane have not exactly stopped Redknap from spending have they, and the current result is Top Euro Football for next season

 

The Achilles heel is IF they fail ..... which was the scenario that destroyed Leeds

 

Pompey ??? Watch for the biggest Fiddle since Nero A "forced" CVA, a quick in and out of liquidation, then an even quicker reformation, no further points deduction, and a level playing field for the CCC Fit For Purpose my Arse

 

Rupert's big mistake ???? He didn't put us circa £149M in debt .... seems to work for others

 

By comparison, we went into Admin on a pittance, and got stuffed -10 by the FA

 

Sweet F A .... which is exactly what they are:cool:

 

i think spurs turned one of the biggest profits in the premier league last year, a cool £25m, so talk of redknapp bankrupting them is wide of the mark.

[Window Cleaner]

He was a chequebook manager at a skinflint club (at the time)...

 

And we were a skinflint club because far too much football money was spent on non-football things, like Chairmen and Performance Directors and Sport's Science Advisors

[Saint Fan CaM]

I think Lowe only bought him here for one reason,to wind up Mandaric. If harry had been giving proper backing by Lowe he could have done a good job for us. A couple of million in the January transfer window the year we went down could have bought us a couple of decent defenders,instead we had to make do with Bernard and ****ing Davenport.

 

Lowe's pompousness didn't go well with Arrys ****ney wideboy attitude and it was doomed from the start. Bringing in Clive Woodward was the final straw for Redknapp.

 

Edit: I think Arry saw coming here as a bit of a 2 finger salute to Mandaric for getting rid of Jim Smith and bringing in Velimer Zajec behind his back.

 

 

This is the real story.

[RedArmy]

Because he's a cvnt.

[bender]

He only joined us to get back at Milan Manderic. The appointment just didnt seem right to me. Almost too good to be true.

[AndyNorthernSaints]

He got us relegated not because he is a sh1t manager, but because he didn't care and his heart wasn't in the job.

 

Hence why I despise him.

 

+ 1

[Jonnyboy]

He didn't care.

 

If i wanted to relegate a club i would select a defence of Delap, Bernard, Jakcobsen(sp) and Davenport.

I would drop creative players Fernandes and Anders and play Telfer in midfield.

I would drop Kevin Phillips for our last home game when we needed to beat Manure.

I would get Kevin Bond to organise defensive training to ensure we conceded lots of late goals.

 

To ensure a 4-0 defeat on national tv in the 6th round of the cup i would play a weakened team.

 

I would play the youth team at Mansfield and select Delap as captain to ensure our exit from the league cup.

 

I would slag off my players to the media and drop the club captain Dodd who have experienced lots of relegation battles and play Delap at right back.

 

i still maintain he was undercover, sent by Mandaric and the skates

[dune]

Because he's a cvnt.

 

I was going to put my argument accross, but on reflection can't be arsed, so this comment will do.

[beatlesaint]

He didn't care.

 

If i wanted to relegate a club i would select a defence of Delap, Bernard, Jakcobsen(sp) and Davenport.

I would drop creative players Fernandes and Anders and play Telfer in midfield.

I would drop Kevin Phillips for our last home game when we needed to beat Manure.

I would get Kevin Bond to organise defensive training to ensure we conceded lots of late goals.

 

To ensure a 4-0 defeat on national tv in the 6th round of the cup i would play a weakened team.

 

I would play the youth team at Mansfield and select Delap as captain to ensure our exit from the league cup.

 

I would slag off my players to the media and drop the club captain Dodd who have experienced lots of relegation battles and play Delap at right back.

 

WOW ! Nail on head or what

 

The only ingredient you missed was a certain Mr Rupert Lowe and his reluctance to give old twitchy any money to spend !

[Toadhall Saint]

1, He who shall remain nameless.

 

2, Oh and good ol' tax evader HR cannot operate without spending god knows how many millions - just ask that lot down the road.

[Windmill Arm 2]

Did well at Bournemouth, got West Ham into Europe, got Pompey promoted and won the FA Cup (please dont go on about bankrupting Pompey, that wasn't his fault, he didn't run the clubs finances if a manager is given money to spend to improve the team they'll spend it) now got Spurs into the champions league. yet for us he was awful, the only place he has failed. And before you all jump on the band wagon a bout what a tosser he is, i seem to remember when Hoddle left a lot of people wanted Redknapp as manager then and were disapointed he didn't get it.

 

Simples, he didn't really want to be here, he came to get up Manda*****s nose.

[brmbrm]

Rupert Lowe

 

Clive Woodward

 

Given no authority, responsibility or control

 

Surrounding by nobs who thought they knew better

[dronskisaint]

He got us relegated not because he is a sh1t manager, but because he didn't care and his heart wasn't in the job.

 

Hence why I despise him.

 

+1

 

And this is the reason why if I ever bump in to him I will tell him exactly why he's lower in my esteem than dogsh*t on my shoe. If his 'eart wasn't in it he shouldn't have taken the money....lying, bankrupting, twitchy little tw*t - I despise & begrudge the air that he breathes.

[dronskisaint]

He's a ****, he's always been a ****, he'll probably carry on being a ****, in fact if there was a **** competition he would come second, why second ? because he's a ****

 

This too!

[Katalinic]

He knew within a week that he had made a mistake coming to Saints - shame he didn't jack it in there and then.

[Dark Munster]

i still maintain he was undercover, sent by Mandaric and the skates

 

Could well be. That would explain his thumbs up to Mad Milan after the Krap Nottarf capitulation. :mad:

[saintkiptanui]

could it be because he is a saggy face c*nt who deserves to be scalped by raging blood thirsty mohicans

This and he's a c*nt again and stop f*ckin calling him arry as if he's your mate.

[sadoldgit]

His heart wasn't in the job from day 1. He has admitted that himself. He used to refer to us in the 3rd party, treated the young players poorly, wasted £6m on poor signings, gavethe players a day off before the do or die relegation clincher against United, threw his toys out of the pram when he wasn't allowed to buy Morrison and didn't boter to look for another striker, refused to let Woodward near the 1st team even when we needed something to turn the team around, was apparently constantly on the phone to Mandaric when he was suposed to be managing us, gave Mandaric that infamous thumbs up after Portsmouth had beaten us soundly, b*ggered off to his spirtual home once he had made Mandaric suffer long enough, b*ggered off to Spuds once he realsied that Portsmouthe were in the cr*p (and you cant tell me that he had NOTHING to do with that £138m debt)...and is being done for tax evasion.

 

I was one of those who thought he would be a good appointment for us but all he did was take the money and left us in the sh*t. I never heard Lowe comment on managers negatively but he was quoted as saying that Redknapp was "difficult" to work with.

 

A lot of the usual suspects on here take great pleasure in slagging off Burley because he spent £7m and didn't get us up and on Pardew who spent £3m and didn't get us up..but in one go Redknapp sp*ked £6m down the toilet and left us bottom..yet that apparently was Lowe's falut not Rednapps.

 

Let us just remind ouselves where some of the money went. On his crippled son. On possibly one of the worst players every to pull on a Saints shirt, Davenport and that other waste of Space Bernard. Yet we are led to believe 'Arry is a master wheeler dealer...well he certainly wheeled us out of the Premiership fast enough and wasted a lot of money on a lot of rubbish in the process.

 

He also had the temerity to talk about the "posh" cars in the Saints car park and how he felt out of place yet he owns a very expensive property in Sandbanks...

 

Is he a good manager? Yes.

 

Was he good for us? No.

 

Is he a great manager? No.

 

Should he go to prison? Probably.

[ulstersaint]

I think the answer is 'rupert lowe'

 

As Graham Souness said, "How can anyone called Rupert know anything about football?"

[JackFrost]

His heart wasn't in the job from day 1. He has admitted that himself. He used to refer to us in the 3rd party, treated the young players poorly, wasted £6m on poor signings, gavethe players a day off before the do or die relegation clincher against United, threw his toys out of the pram when he wasn't allowed to buy Morrison and didn't boter to look for another striker, refused to let Woodward near the 1st team even when we needed something to turn the team around, was apparently constantly on the phone to Mandaric when he was suposed to be managing us, gave Mandaric that infamous thumbs up after Portsmouth had beaten us soundly, b*ggered off to his spirtual home once he had made Mandaric suffer long enough, b*ggered off to Spuds once he realsied that Portsmouthe were in the cr*p (and you cant tell me that he had NOTHING to do with that £138m debt)...and is being done for tax evasion.

 

I was one of those who thought he would be a good appointment for us but all he did was take the money and left us in the sh*t. I never heard Lowe comment on managers negatively but he was quoted as saying that Redknapp was "difficult" to work with.

 

A lot of the usual suspects on here take great pleasure in slagging off Burley because he spent £7m and didn't get us up and on Pardew who spent £3m and didn't get us up..but in one go Redknapp sp*ked £6m down the toilet and left us bottom..yet that apparently was Lowe's falut not Rednapps.

 

Let us just remind ouselves where some of the money went. On his crippled son. On possibly one of the worst players every to pull on a Saints shirt, Davenport and that other waste of Space Bernard. Yet we are led to believe 'Arry is a master wheeler dealer...well he certainly wheeled us out of the Premiership fast enough and wasted a lot of money on a lot of rubbish in the process.

 

He also had the temerity to talk about the "posh" cars in the Saints car park and how he felt out of place yet he owns a very expensive property in Sandbanks...

 

Is he a good manager? Yes.

 

Was he good for us? No.

 

Is he a great manager? No.

 

Should he go to prison? Probably.

 

Barring that paragraph, you got it spot on IMO. I haven't seen anyone blame Lowe for Redknapp's signings. What people blame Lowe for is his handling of the Sturrock affair and appointing Wigley earlier in that season.

 

As for Davenport & Bernard, who can forget Yahia & Van Damme also?

Edited 6 May, 2010 by JackFrost

[Seaford Saint]

Harry clearly has talent, he initially saved Pompey, rejuvenated them etc. He has transformed Spurs this season.

 

Could he successfully manage a bigger club than Spurs? I would say yes.