trousers Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2152707,00.html "I want us to pass the ball, pass it and move it, play fast flowing football and try to play at a high tempo because you've got to control a game of football, but you've got to play winning football as well, so you've got to be able to change formations if required. "If you've got the ball, then everyone's an attacker and if you haven't, then everyone's a defender. You make the pitch big in possession and when you don't have the ball you make it smaller, it's a very simple game, and we've got to go out there making sure that the players have a smile on their face. "The players will be working so, so hard as that's what we demand, but we do it as a team, a cohesive unit with a common goal all of us together. We've got to win a game of football, but also put a product on that excites the supporters, and makes them very proud to support their team." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 I miss pilchards first training session by the new manager report... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellish Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 like his comments . now we have to back him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 13 September, 2010 Author Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Great to see he's already using "we" when referring to Saints. A lot of managers take a while to get into that frame of mind, instead using phrases like "this team" for a while. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 I really hope this works out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 I really hope this works out. same as, i like what he has said so far. Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegaffer Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Does anyone else worry he might struggle to buy a property in the area after Martin O'Neill, Kevin Keegan, Phil Brown, Eddie Howe, Rolf Fringer, Christian Gross, Glenn Hoddle and Alan Shearer all recently purchased houses nearby? Can't be many left. plenty in Millbrook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 even if Nige gets us up to the NPC and moves on some point after...he will have done well and will be remembered fondly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofarnorth Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Just for once I hope the new manager effect works in our favour! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Great to see he's already using "we" when referring to Saints. A lot of managers take a while to get into that frame of mind, instead using phrases like "this team" for a while. Nice. I don't think that Redknapp ever got used to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2152707,00.html It is one thing saying it, another to achieve it. Good luck mate, you will need it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 I like what he is saying, almost a back to basics approach and getting the players to enjoy their football. Fingers crossed that he can get the message across quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Division South Days Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 I would think what we've read on the OS is word for word what the players have been told this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Opposite to pardew. Adkins thinks it is a simple game, Pardew thinks it is a complex game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 I like what he is saying, almost a back to basics approach and getting the players to enjoy their football. Fingers crossed that he can get the message across quickly. Which is exactly what we need to do. The squad as it is should be good enough to be competing for the top 2 places; add in 2 or 3 loans and there should be no doubt at all. they just need to take collective responsibility for the mess we're in and step up to the plate. Hopefully he can inspire some instant confidence and we'll see more of the 4-0 bristol Rovers performances rather than the insipid collection of misery we've been recently inflicted with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 13 September, 2010 Author Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Opposite to pardew. Adkins thinks it is a simple game, Pardew thinks it is a complex game. Yep, in a nutshell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Opposite to pardew. Adkins thinks it is a simple game, Pardew thinks it is a complex game. It can work either way, depending on the manager and players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 I'm looking forward to seeing our new improved smiley players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Opposite to pardew. Adkins thinks it is a simple game, Pardew thinks it is a complex game. Kicking a bag of wind around cannot be that difficult Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Have to laugh, with the exception of the bits about "the fans" that stuff about all attacking and all defending and making the pitch wide and narrow is exactly what I said to my Sunday side when I took over. Probably should get my badges now, LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Have to laugh, with the exception of the bits about "the fans" that stuff about all attacking and all defending and making the pitch wide and narrow is exactly what I said to my Sunday side when I took over. Probably should get my badges now, LOL. its how you implement it...you are clearly ****e..where he is considerably better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 its how you implement it...you are clearly ****e..where he is considerably better We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Kicking a bag of wind around cannot be that difficult Obviously the further up the ladder you go the more tactical the game gets (to an extent). But at the end of the day a team of 11 lazy, uninterested players with a tactical genius as a manager will always lose to a team of 11 similarly skilled but hard working, enthusiastic players with only basic tactics. Not really sure what my point is... Ah well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 I am really interested how he deals with tactics especially when we are at home and the opposition are playing with 11 men behind the ball. I for one am optimistic this guy has the intelligence and style which the team will benefit from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry the Badger Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 I am really interested how he deals with tactics especially when we are at home and the opposition are playing with 11 men behind the ball. I for one am optimistic this guy has the intelligence and style which the team will benefit from. Again, I do think this comes back to keeping it simple and this is where I'm optimistic about NA. If a team are sitting 11 behind the ball there is no magic tactical formula to unlock them, it's about good players moving the ball quickly and with confidence, making things happen themselves, stretching the opposition, that is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 I am really interested how he deals with tactics especially when we are at home and the opposition are playing with 11 men behind the ball. I for one am optimistic this guy has the intelligence and style which the team will benefit from. I think the one thing we can say is that he surely can't be any worse than Pardew in this department. Credit to AP, when we got the first goal we often went on to dominate games and won a lot of games very comfortably. However, when we struggled to get the first goal there was rarely a sense that we had a few tricks up our sleeves to change the way we played. Often when we went with, for example, 3 at the back for spells it actually made us look much worse and disjointed. Time will tell I suppose; and you can only do a certain amount with the tools at your disposal. But we certainly need a spark of creativity into the side, and Adkins needs to be the man to bring it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Lets see how long it takes to turn around our team of hoofball specialists. And the idea of Schneiderlin and Hammond bombing on when in possession, somebody must be tripping... Good stuff, though. The emphasis given by the OS to NA's preferred playing style says alot about why he was appointed and why Pards ultimately fell out of favour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 He looks really happy getting his hands on his new work kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Sounds perfect to me. Pass and move football with the players we have is a winning formula. Bring in someone with a bit of pace up front, and someone like Antonio to come off the bench and we'll be sticking 5 past people again in no time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 I like his comments very much - clearly not a media statement fashioned by a PR firm. But at the end of the day a team of 11 lazy, uninterested players with a tactical genius as a manager will always lose to a team of 11 similarly skilled but hard working, enthusiastic players with only basic tactics. Not really sure what my point is... Ah well. Well, if he can transform our lot from category A to category B (because we have looked clueless and disinterested at times), the £200,000 compensation should effectively buy us a whole new first team squad. That's a hell of a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 He looks really happy getting his hands on his new work kit. Big lolz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 I am really interested how he deals with tactics especially when we are at home and the opposition are playing with 11 men behind the ball. I for one am optimistic this guy has the intelligence and style which the team will benefit from. Part of the dealing with 11 men behind the ball is getting the thing in amongst the defending side before they have the chance to organise themselves. The fact that sides are able to get 11 back in the first place has been down to the lack of urgency when we're in possession. So if we build up quickly (THIS DOES NOT MEAN LONG BALL, MENTAL MIDGETS) we're able to create opportunities with (e.g.) crosses, which won't happen as often when there are 2 donkeys there to head it away every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Lets see how long it takes to turn around our team of hoofball specialists. And the idea of Schneiderlin and Hammond bombing on when in possession, somebody must be tripping... Good stuff, though. The emphasis given by the OS to NA's preferred playing style says alot about why he was appointed and why Pards ultimately fell out of favour. We don't have a team of "hoofball specialists", if we did have we'd be a lot more successful at it than we are when other teams give our least ball-playing defender all the possession. I don't think we're a long ball side in any way shape or form, but we have been known to revert to long passes at Lambert late on in matches when sides press us in midfield, which is as much Hammond and Schniederlin's fault for not being free to receive the ball as it is Jaidi or Seaborne's for not giving it easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redondo Saint Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Let's hope the 'new manager effect' works for us on Saturday as I will be at SMS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMojoRisin Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 3 words for you all. TALK IS CHEAP, have we not learned anything from appionting nobodies like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 3 words for you all. TALK IS CHEAP, have we not learned anything from appionting nobodies like this. Wasn't Lawrie a nobody from Grimsby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMojoRisin Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Yeah and so was Luggy, Stuart gray jan poortvliet, mark wotte and steve wigley and they all brought great success didnt they. Its fair to say that with the appointment of NA the saints and I as a fan no longer have the same ambitions as this is a backward step and I feel will consign us to another year in L1 as by the time NA has shuffled his pack it will be the end of january until we play better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 3 words for you all. TALK IS CHEAP, have we not learned anything from appionting nobodies like this. So who's a "somebody" in your eyes? It needs to be someone who's likely to be A) available, and B) interested in coming here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Yeah and so was Luggy, Stuart gray jan poortvliet, mark wotte and steve wigley and they all brought great success didnt they. Its fair to say that with the appointment of NA the saints and I as a fan no longer have the same ambitions as this is a backward step and I feel will consign us to another year in L1 as by the time NA has shuffled his pack it will be the end of january until we play better! You seem to miss the point. All the other managers you mention had zero prior experience of managing at the level they were employed for at SFC. Only Sturrock had any significant previous record of managerial success in the English leagues. Nigel Adkins has a track record in this particular division of having achieved promotion twice, both in the last 5 years. In terms of what we need right now, he is it. Whether he will be the manager for the NPC and/or Premier League, I guess we'll jump off that bridge if/when we get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Personally I'd rather not have these sort of O/S articles. Just go out and do it Nigel, I don't care how you do it just do it. I'm not even bothered about style at the moment just points on the board we can have all the style later when we're top of the table and 10pts clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Personally I'd rather not have these sort of O/S articles. Just go out and do it Nigel, I don't care how you do it just do it. I'm not even bothered about style at the moment just points on the board we can have all the style later when we're top of the table and 10pts clear. i'm sure people have been complaining about the clubs lack of communication recently.... now we want less communication? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 I really hope this works out. We're Saints fans, we ALL hope it works out. Tis the Pompey fans that would wish otherwise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 i'm sure people have been complaining about the clubs lack of communication recently.... now we want less communication? Not really this isn't communication this just the usual O/S stuff like all those "we want to win the next match" crap from the players. The new manager wants us to play good football and win hardly a revelation is it? Communication is things like explaining why the club needed to change the set up with season tickets, it's been explained now and it makes perfect sense but why couldn't they just tell people at the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Well strachan was **** before us. We had some nobodies fail, and some somebodies fail. Redknapp and Burley were good weren't they? Dave Jones did well for a nobody. Hoddle alright for a while then ****ed off. Perhaps we should stop trying to make it all black and white like morons and actually judge a manager in isolation? I know it takes a bit more insight but I think if we put our minds together will can almost achieve it. Exactly. I think Adkins brings a lot of things that can make us much better and more attractive, and he's done nothing to warrant the "underwhelmed" put-down. I get frustrated reading that stuff, especially from people who A) clearly have no idea what he brings to the table, B) have no serious alternatives to suggest, and/or C) think a big name is the cure for all our ills. I'm very optimistic that Adkins will turn us around and that we'll grow together, but I hope people (the doubters and Nicola) are willing to judge him objectively and give him some time - or else this club is really going to go pear-shaped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack rill Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 It working out probably means him getting us to the top flight. Him doing that makes him one of our most successful managers, and certainly one of the most fondly thought of. So the challenge is very big. If he can do that! Paul Daniels can retire, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxstone Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 I like his words. Much better than the bland drivel spouted off by the likes of gormless George and latterly by AP. He's got to deliver on his words of course, but nought wrong with him publically laying out his vision - The players will at least know what to expect now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 If he can do that! Paul Daniels can retire, He's too busy working on his disappearing trick down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 Does anyone else worry he might struggle to buy a property in the area after Martin O'Neill, Kevin Keegan, Phil Brown, Eddie Howe, Rolf Fringer, Christian Gross, Glenn Hoddle and Alan Shearer all recently purchased houses nearby? Can't be many left. LOL Yeh ..but the one Strachan bought last year is up for sale. Has a mouldering pile of saints training kit on the doorstep too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian the Red Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~2152707,00.html This will make a gr8 change, the ball passed along the ground rather than lumped forward in the air!! Nigel Adkins red n white army!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 13 September, 2010 Share Posted 13 September, 2010 You seem to miss the point. All the other managers you mention had zero prior experience of managing at the level they were employed for at SFC. Only Sturrock had any significant previous record of managerial success in the English leagues. Nigel Adkins has a track record in this particular division of having achieved promotion twice, both in the last 5 years. In terms of what we need right now, he is it. Whether he will be the manager for the NPC and/or Premier League, I guess we'll jump off that bridge if/when we get there. LOL Sturrock had NO PREMIER experience when he was appointed at Saints manager. he was out of his depth from the minute he stepped through the SMS front door !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In short he was a bloody disaster and was only there because the loony minority kicked off over the appointment of Hoddle ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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