doddisalegend Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 (edited) I know NC said money is avaliable for the right players in Jan. However reading some of the posts around it seems some people are expecting/wanting in the region of 5-6 new players if not more. It appears some think we don't just need to strengthen the squad but in fact re build it mid season? is replacement of half our starting 11 really resonable in Jan? Edited 13 December, 2010 by doddisalegend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 5-6 new players Are you joking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 There is a very depressed transfer market out there at present (and not because of the window being shut in case someone posts that) January is a difficult time to get the right sort of player we need. I cannot see a good player of Championship quality wanting to take a chance on us. I really believe that all we will get is decent cover players so that will be few. We need to show that we are not just a progressive "talking" club. We need to demonstrate the same by results. Catch 22? Seems that way. I hope I am wrong but all we will get in January are fringe players wanting away because their Manager does not think they are good enough. However, if they are like Chaplow, that is not all bad. July-August is when we will have a better chance of the right player, providing we are in the Championship! All my opinion, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 I can see is signing chaplow Getting another striker and a wide player... Who knows whether they will be loans That will be about it and that is all we need 5-6 players.. Please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrey1saint Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 IMO,we will aim to sign 2-3 players,can't see any more than that. A striker,a winger & a midfielder. Think if we don't we will struggle to keep up with promotion race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashby Saint Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 I can see is signing chaplow Getting another striker and a wide player... Who knows whether they will be loans That will be about it and that is all we need 5-6 players.. Please Why is it that we always need to buy more players at every transfer window? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintstr1 Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 I am not so much worried about who we sign or dont sign in January,more concerned about what has happened to the players we currently have. On paper the strongest squad in the division but for whatever reasons they are not performing anything like they should be. I dont see many positions in the team where we could replace with a better player, on paper that is. I think it is more a case of somebody needing to get the best from what is a excellent squad that should be winning matches in this league week in and week out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 If anyone is expecting 5-6 players then yes they will be disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 5-6 new players Are you joking? yeah, we need another 11 really. Rip it up and start again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 disapponted about your spelling, son! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Stimp Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 disapponted about your spelling, son! Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 Exactly. Davis Richardson Fonte Seabourne Dickson Ox-C Schneiderlin Chaplow Lallana Lambert Barnard Doesn't leave much room for League 1 improvement does it, yet we're utter ****. Why? How many times has this team started a game though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc1971 Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 Schniderlin and Lambert will be out of the door in Jan. Fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 13 December, 2010 Author Share Posted 13 December, 2010 disapponted about your spelling, son! Thanks dad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 13 December, 2010 Author Share Posted 13 December, 2010 5-6 new players Are you joking? No I'm just wondering having read the HCDAJFU thread here are a few examples 2 strikers (one pacy, one to replace Connolly) 2 wingers (to replace Holmes and Puncheon) 2 centre mids (Chaplow looks nailed on, need one more and possibly another if Schneiderlin goes) 1 centre back (to replace Jaidi, this deal could be done at the end of the season) and another one Specific players - Le Fondre, Beattie (thought I'd get in early with than one), Chaplow on a perm. General requirements A winger with pace and height. Antonio would be perfect, but we wont get him. A winger with skill and technique. A big strong, but much younger, centre half to replace Jaidi and another One striker is paramount. Two would be great. An audacious double swoop on peterboro for Mackail-Smith and MaClean would be excellent. Buying an already succesful partnership would cut down on bedding in time and completey remove the burden and pressure from Lambert. Those two alse have experience in the Championsip. A winger seems neccessary but not essential to me. I do think we need a quality CM as well as signing Chaplow. We definitely need another CB as yesterday proved we are too vulnerable without Fonte. A keeper that commands his box, can kick and digstribute better than kelvin who for his shot stopping ability is not going to take us to the Prem! and another Chaplow, Harley, Le Fondre and Austin are bare minimum signings ie we have no chance whatosever of finishing top 6 without them. If we want top 2, we need to go further - Myles Weston, and some quality loans. A decent CB would help also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 Let's say we sign all these players and have the 'perfect' league 1 team. What do we then do when we lose at home to Exeter? It's not about having the perfect League One team, some of the posters are missing the point. I've been to plenty of games this season and the side lacks pace, penetration, hunger, leadership and above all it has looked toothless bar coming up against one or two dreadful defences like Posh and Rovers. Not sure we need 6 players but the 3-4 I've suggested - Le Fondre, Austin (or a taller striker like him), Weston (pace!) and Harley - would inject some of the missing qualities. Don't forget, some of Pardew's players that have flopped - Puncheon and Morgan S (OK, that was Lowe), are hopefully on their way and that will help the wage bill. We are also getting the biggest gates at this level so we can outgun the likes of Brighton and Boscombe and Wednesday and Hudds will be adding to their squads, in my view our main two rivals for automatic promotion. We've also lost Holmes for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 13 December, 2010 Author Share Posted 13 December, 2010 Let's say we sign all these players and have the 'perfect' league 1 team. What do we then do when we lose at home to Exeter? Replace them that's much easier than having the manager get the best out of them, any trouble makers stick em out on loan, anyone not up to scratch loan or sell them. buy buy buy. I mean the alternative would be to manage the players we've got and get them playing to their strengths thats a non start isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 Replace them that's much easier than having the manager get the best out of them, any trouble makers stick em out on loan, anyone not up to scratch loan or sell them. buy buy buy. I mean the alternative would be to manage the players we've got and get them playing to their strengths thats a non start isn't it? This is right doddsy The team is basically the same as last season except that Lambert can't score and Lallana isn't knocking in as many. Ohh right we kicked Puncheon out, forgot that. I wouldn't be at all surprised if we bought 3 new players and saw very little change in performances against the better sides in the division. We only need 1 change Lambert in the reserves and a striker who still knows what he's about in his place, plus getting Puncheon back of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 After Saturday we could do with 7-8 new players. Will we get one? I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 A new striker on loan and a replacement for Puncheon if he doesn't come back, would be fine. All we lacked on Saturday really apart from a strong goalkeeping performance, but Kelvin can get over that I think, was something different coming forwards. We played most of the game with 10 men, Lambert is of no use presently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 Saturday was a one off rusty performance after the break as far as I'm concerned. I remember a few weeks ago when we were relentlessly winning we were all saying how good we were and with depth. Lets not forget we are still a way off being half way through this season. That said, I think NA will be allowed some expenditure seeing as this will be his first transfer window. Still positive - no team is really dominating, especially now Brighton dont seem to be able to win anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 It's not about having the perfect League One team, some of the posters are missing the point. I've been to plenty of games this season and the side lacks pace, penetration, hunger, leadership and above all it has looked toothless bar coming up against one or two dreadful defences like Posh and Rovers. Not sure we need 6 players but the 3-4 I've suggested - Le Fondre, Austin (or a taller striker like him), Weston (pace!) and Harley - would inject some of the missing qualities. Don't forget, some of Pardew's players that have flopped - Puncheon and Morgan S (OK, that was Lowe), are hopefully on their way and that will help the wage bill. We are also getting the biggest gates at this level so we can outgun the likes of Brighton and Boscombe and Wednesday and Hudds will be adding to their squads, in my view our main two rivals for automatic promotion. We've also lost Holmes for the season. Sums it up perfectly, we have a Good Squad, but an unbalanced one. NOT ENOUGH STRIKE POWER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 This is right doddsy The team is basically the same as last season except that Lambert can't score and Lallana isn't knocking in as many. Ohh right we kicked Puncheon out, forgot that. I wouldn't be at all surprised if we bought 3 new players and saw very little change in performances against the better sides in the division. We only need 1 change Lambert in the reserves and a striker who still knows what he's about in his place, plus getting Puncheon back of course. Puncheon hasn't wanted to play for us for ages, and won't be back, put your mortgage on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 (edited) Exactly. Davis Richardson Fonte Seabourne Dickson Ox-C Schneiderlin Chaplow Lallana Lambert Barnard Doesn't leave much room for League 1 improvement does it, yet we're utter ****. Why? Replace Morgan for Hammond IMO, but when that team plays we're NOT utter ****. Edited 13 December, 2010 by Saint_clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 i would get rid of Scheiderlin and bring in a new midfielder, bring in a replacement for Puncheon and probably offload Connolly and get two new strikers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 Saturday was a one off rusty performance after the break as far as I'm concerned. I remember a few weeks ago when we were relentlessly winning we were all saying how good we were and with depth. Lets not forget we are still a way off being half way through this season. That said, I think NA will be allowed some expenditure seeing as this will be his first transfer window. Still positive - no team is really dominating, especially now Brighton dont seem to be able to win anymore. I dont get that myself. To be fair, we have had a few rusty performances, and when have we been relentlessly winning? I might be wrong but I dont think we have gone more than 4 straight wins on the trot. Again, we are far too inconsistent to win this league, we may scrape into the playoffs but which saints side will turn up in the playoff final is another matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 Schniderlin and Lambert will be out of the door in Jan. Fact Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 lets face it, whatever happens, whoever we sign, some will still moan and complain. If we sign 3 players it wont be enough, we need 5-6, if we sign them people will moan we have signed to many and we will have the problem of the new players gelling. Whatever happens, people will be disapointed or find something to moan about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dale days Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 lamberts been carrying abad injury this season, that is why he is not the player of old, give him a decent break, lee barnard could take his place in that time (unless hes in nick)!! reading these posts, if we were watching Barca every week someone would have the moans............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Wilts Saint Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 Puncheon hasn't wanted to play for us for ages, and won't be back, put your mortgage on it Adkins programme note said "wants to bring in competition for lallana and Chambo" so i read that Punch is not coming back, or certainly not in his thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.JonB Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 Maybe we could bring in competition for Adkins? There are too many players that don't seem to have respect for him. Looks like we need to forget this season while Adkins finds a team that wants to play for him. Maybe next year...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 Yes... probably! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 Let's say we sign all these players and have the 'perfect' league 1 team. What do we then do when we lose at home to Exeter? Wait until the summer,then recruit Tisdale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 lamberts been carrying abad injury this season, that is why he is not the player of old, give him a decent break, lee barnard could take his place in that time (unless hes in nick)!! reading these posts, if we were watching Barca every week someone would have the moans............ With all due respect to your obviously superior inside knowledge then why did Adkins say otherwise not so long back?? He said in one of his interviews that RL was fit again and should be moving forward, is that not right then??? does NA deliberately deceive the fans?? if so I would then say that's a sacking offence because he doesn't know what he's talking about and he doesn't seem to know what he's doing with this group of players. So if you know you're right say so, if not ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 Puncheon hasn't wanted to play for us for ages, and won't be back, put your mortgage on it Don't have a mortgage, paid off eons ago, how about 10 bob?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 Schniderlin and Lambert will be out of the door in Jan. Fact Source? The faraway land known to us as "Speculatia". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 Let's say we sign all these players and have the 'perfect' league 1 team. What do we then do when we lose at home to Exeter? You think all these players will be in our team on new years day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATERSIDEIFASAINT Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 we will bring 3 players in absolutely certainly imo.Chaplow, a winger and a striker as a minimum. Without these we can certainly kiss goodbye to promotion this season as our strikeforce is not good enough this season Both NA & NC know this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MINIBARCELONASAINT Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 I know NC said money is avaliable for the right players in Jan. However reading some of the posts around it seems some people are expecting/wanting in the region of 5-6 new players if not more. It appears some think we don't just need to stregthen the squad but in fact re build it mid season? is replacement of half our starting 11 really resonable in Jan? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MINIBARCELONASAINT Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 Of course not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 I can see is signing chaplow Getting another striker and a wide player... Who knows whether they will be loans That will be about it and that is all we need 5-6 players.. Please In a day of firsts, I agree with Semen DullDays. Chaplow, wide man and striker please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 I think there's no point dicking about, we need to spend some serious cash in January if "we don't want to contemplate not getting promoted". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 I know NC said money is avaliable for the right players in Jan. However reading some of the posts around it seems some people are expecting/wanting in the region of 5-6 new players if not more. It appears some think we don't just need to stregthen the squad but in fact re build it mid season? is replacement of half our starting 11 really resonable in Jan? would love a premiesrship all star 11 signings but we are not wanting for much. Would be very happy if we keep key players sign CM sign winger/forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 I am not so much worried about who we sign or dont sign in January,more concerned about what has happened to the players we currently have. On paper the strongest squad in the division but for whatever reasons they are not performing anything like they should be. I dont see many positions in the team where we could replace with a better player, on paper that is. I think it is more a case of somebody needing to get the best from what is a excellent squad that should be winning matches in this league week in and week out. This. Adkins biggest failing is not to manage the squad to fulfill its potential. If anything, the players that have served us well are rapidly becoming very mediocre. something is very wrong,we should not be looking to make wholesale changes or aquisitions,but unfortunately the side is dishing up dross compared to what many were advocating what Adkins would serve up. choice is get more players in and hope adkins can make these players better than what we have or get rid of adkins and see if the players we have regain what they had under pardew. Adkins is stifling the players we all know to have talent.imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 This. Adkins biggest failing is not to manage the squad to fulfill its potential. If anything, the players that have served us well are rapidly becoming very mediocre. something is very wrong,we should not be looking to make wholesale changes or aquisitions,but unfortunately the side is dishing up dross compared to what many were advocating what Adkins would serve up. choice is get more players in and hope adkins can make these players better than what we have or get rid of adkins and see if the players we have regain what they had under pardew. Adkins is stifling the players we all know to have talent.imo.That is not what I am hearing. The players are happy with Adkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 I don't think I am going to have to wait for January to be disappointed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 This. Adkins biggest failing is not to manage the squad to fulfill its potential. If anything, the players that have served us well are rapidly becoming very mediocre. something is very wrong,we should not be looking to make wholesale changes or aquisitions,but unfortunately the side is dishing up dross compared to what many were advocating what Adkins would serve up. choice is get more players in and hope adkins can make these players better than what we have or get rid of adkins and see if the players we have regain what they had under pardew. Adkins is stifling the players we all know to have talent.imo. Even though Lallana and Barnard could be said to be playing better under Adkins than Pardew. Whatever, we all know you dislike Adkins, no point trying to argue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 Even though Lallana and Barnard could be said to be playing better under Adkins than Pardew. Whatever, we all know you dislike Adkins, no point trying to argue... I wouldn't agree with you there. Only player I would say who has shown a noticeable improvement is Hammond until Saturday when he was turd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackedoff Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 The disappointment began pre-season, January is not going to change anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 13 December, 2010 Share Posted 13 December, 2010 I worry that we won't get the players we need until the summer as that will mean another season in this bloody division. We do need new blood - how many players is any ones guess but two qulaity players in the right positions would make a huge difference. And a Plan B would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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