Gemmel Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 As the season ticket details will be released (We assume) relatively soon, what would be a fair increase? Obviously it is going to cost more in the Championship and ultimately this project (Cortese /Liebherr) has to be ale to sustain itself, so what ballpark costs will be acceptable and what would send the forum into meltdown. Just as a guideline these are the blue fews prices 2011/12 Season Ticket Prices: Fratton End/South Stand/North Stand – Adult First Phase: £450 – £19.56 per match Second Phase: £499 – £21.69 per match Fratton End/South Stand/North Stand – Junior First Phase: £200 – £8.69 per match Second Phase: £225 – £9.78 per match Fratton End/South Stand/North Stand – Unaccompanied Junior First Phase: £225 – £9.78 per match Second Phase: £250 – £10.86 per match Fratton End/South Stand/North Stand – Senior/Young Person First Phase: £300 – £13.04 per match Second Phase: £330 – £14.34 per match Family Enclosure – Adult First Phase: £340 – £14.78 per match Second Phase: £380 – £16.52 per match Family Enclosure – Junior First Phase: £115 – £5.00 per match Second Phase: £140 – £6.08 per match Family Enclosure – Unaccompanied Junior First Phase: £140 – £6.08 per match Second Phase: £165 – £7.17 per match Family Enclosure – Senior/Young Person First Phase: £200 – £8.69 per match Second Phase: £240 – £10.43 per match Wheelchair Disabled First Phase: £135 – £5.86 per match Second Phase: £150 – £6.52 per match Please note: Senior is aged 60 or over on or before September 1 2011. Young person is aged 17-22 on or before September 1 2011. Junior is aged 16 or under on or before September 1 2011. Adult/senior/young person season ticket holders in the Family Enclosure must be accompanied by a junior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 If I remember correctly, the renewal price for this season was £355, so I would expect the discounted renewal price to be in the region of £400 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 I'd be happy to pay anything between £400-£450 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 I have budgetted to pay £450 this season for the Northam Stand be disappointed if it was anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 That's probably about right. £400 for renewals will be fine. Lumping it up by £100 would be a bit harsh unless it's softened by the reintroduction of installments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 IMHO anything above a 15% price rise will be an atrocity, and they're really missing a trick if they don't bring back an instalment plan. Here's the link to the Ticket Page, with the ST link no longer working... http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/TicketNews/0,,10280~1635574,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 Installment plan re-introduction should be done. I thnk they will get rid of the free under 8s season tickets. would be nice if we actually attempted to sell season tickets with some active marketing and fill the ground rather than last years dire effort, i had mates try and buy season tickets after the 1st game of the season only to be told they can't which is absolutely ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jones91 Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 This 'installments arguement', surely the idea of selling a season ticket is for the money upfront, otherwise its pay as you go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 Don't shoot the messenger but i heard that to mark our 126th year, the prices will be £126 across the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 This 'installments arguement', surely the idea of selling a season ticket is for the money upfront, otherwise its pay as you go Uh-oh... here we go again To clarify, there are various ways the club can run an instalment plan. Many use an external finance company because it can be a pain in the arse registering for the direct debit scheme, and if the club were to go down that avenue, they would more than likely receive all the money up front, with the finance company receiving the instalments. Disclaimer: other finance models are available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 would be happy if single tickets only go up by £2-£3 = £46-£69 extra over season tickets aim has got to be to sell 20k+ meaning only needing 10K single sales for each game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 Uh-oh... here we go again To clarify, there are various ways the club can run an instalment plan. Many use an external finance company because it can be a pain in the arse registering for the direct debit scheme, and if the club were to go down that avenue, they would more than likely receive all the money up front, with the finance company receiving the instalments. Disclaimer: other finance models are available Are you sure about that ? Cos I could have sworn the only way to pay for STs was how Cortese says so ? That was kinda the problem last year AFAI could tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambol2K9 Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 IMHO anything above a 15% price rise will be an atrocity I don't think they'll be much over £400. On the other hand tho, if fans want us to spend big bucks on players in the summer, they've got to realise that part of that will need to come from us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 Are you sure about that ? Cos I could have sworn the only way to pay for STs was how Cortese says so ? That was kinda the problem last year AFAI could tell. I understand that previously the club ran a direct debit scheme with no additional cost. This is clearly bonkers and no wonder it was stopped. A lot of clubs offer a scheme through some sort of third party to whom you will pay extra. However, if the club doesn't do this then there is nothing whatsoever stopping any but the most hard-of-thinking fans from arranging their own "installment" plan (credit card, small loan, saving up through the previous season etc...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 I don't think they'll be much over £400. On the other hand tho, if fans want us to spend big bucks on players in the summer, they've got to realise that part of that will need to come from us. I'm quite keen on the Liebherrs paying for it all as part of the "three years remaining" plan, to be honest. When we're in the Prem the tv money can cover it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 3 May, 2011 Author Share Posted 3 May, 2011 I am not sure if this was ever confirmed by the club, but i seem to remember some posts on here saying the installment plans would come back, once we had automated / electronic turnstiles, so they could block people who don't pay the installments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 I don't think they'll be much over £400. On the other hand tho, if fans want us to spend big bucks on players in the summer, they've got to realise that part of that will need to come from us. Doubt if there will be much big bucks spending this summer, 2 or 3 million would be good already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 I understand that previously the club ran a direct debit scheme with no additional cost. This is clearly bonkers and no wonder it was stopped. A lot of clubs offer a scheme through some sort of third party to whom you will pay extra. However, if the club doesn't do this then there is nothing whatsoever stopping any but the most hard-of-thinking fans from arranging their own "installment" plan (credit card, small loan, saving up through the previous season etc...) This is true, but it would have been nice to have known that in advance. Especially given that the club had always recently provided such a plan. Even this year there's been nothing either way to address last year's concerns, so we've all kind of sort of had to assume that "no news is bad news", and it's not like anyone knows exactly how much they need to find, is it ? Anyway, this is all very old news, and I'm expecting the worst, so this time round people who can't afford it CAN be accused of bad planning - and if we do have an instalment plan then I suspect very few people will be complaining that they now still have the ST money they'd saved and don't need burning a hole in their pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 Wasn't it the case that at one of the fans' dinners with Cortese it was stated that there were hundreds on the instalment plan who stopped paying and didn't surrender their tickets which was why the scheme was knocked on the head. Electronic barriers or a swipe card system should help that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 £395 would be acceptable - that would represent an over 10% increase which is somewhat higher than inflation ATM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 £395 would be acceptable - that would represent an over 10% increase which is somewhat higher than inflation ATM. I think comparing any price rise with inflation in this instance isn't really fair as what we'll be getting next season isn't like-for-like. The bigger clubs in the Championship charge anything up to £35 for matchday tickets, which, compared with £22-25 at St Mary's this season, is a pretty big leap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 Wasn't it the case that at one of the fans' dinners with Cortese it was stated that there were hundreds on the instalment plan who stopped paying and didn't surrender their tickets which was why the scheme was knocked on the head. Electronic barriers or a swipe card system should help that. Yes, but that could have been solved by launching prices in Feb/March so people had paid up pre-season as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 400 but a swipe card would be good and also installment plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 400 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 I'd be happy to pay anything between £400-£450 This...thank God I don't have to pay rent anymore from July onwards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBenali Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 Think I paid £400 for mine near the halfway line...expecting about £500 this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stmusicdude Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 Uh-oh... here we go again To clarify, there are various ways the club can run an instalment plan. Many use an external finance company because it can be a pain in the arse registering for the direct debit scheme, and if the club were to go down that avenue, they would more than likely receive all the money up front, with the finance company receiving the instalments. Disclaimer: other finance models are available i'd ~LOVE to be wrong but have been told there will be no instalment plan at all .. hope i'm wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djharvey Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 Am willing to pay more to assist the push for the Prem but anything over £425 for renewal would be a bit hard to justify. Really want swipe card system also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 Cortese said that there would be swipe card systems and instalment plans. I have no reason to doubt him in all honesty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 This 'installments arguement', surely the idea of selling a season ticket is for the money upfront, otherwise its pay as you go I agree. If need be take a loan out or use your overdraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 I would be happy to pay a lot more, you get what you pay for at the end of the day. I would appreciate a payment plan, makes it easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractor_Saint Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 To clarify, there are various ways the club can run an instalment plan. Many use an external finance company because it can be a pain in the arse registering for the direct debit scheme, and if the club were to go down that avenue, they would more than likely receive all the money up front, with the finance company receiving the instalments. And isn't it an issue where it's not easy to stop entry to a ST holder if they've defaulted on their DD payments with the current paper STs? I thought there was discussion around credit card type entry system to the ground which would mean that the cards could be revoked if payment hasn't been made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 And isn't it an issue where it's not easy to stop entry to a ST holder if they've defaulted on their DD payments with the current paper STs It should be relatively straightforward, give the turnstile operators a list of banned names and seat numbers and they check against them as people enter the ground. There won't be many, and as soon as one is spotted, the season ticket is either confiscated or they go to the ticket office to hand their money over. Not an ideal solution, by any means, but it's still possible to achieve if they wanted to. I thought there was discussion around credit card type entry system to the ground which would mean that the cards could be revoked if payment hasn't been made? Well, Cortese was quoted as saying that they can't/won't implement a payment plan until there is some sort of automated entry system - whether that means the club actually plans to pay the best part of half a million quid to safeguard a tenth of that in season ticket revenue (assuming all those "defaulting" did so intentionally any not as a result of either the club taking the payments on different days each month or the card having expired before all payments were made - I know of two people who fell into the latter category, they phoned the club to sort the issue as they noticed the money hadn't been taken out, the club didn't seem to be proactive about pursuing it at all) is open to conjecture and guesswork. From what I remember of the dinner reports from a few months ago, Cortese didn't actually go as far as committing to implementing an automated solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barney Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 Installment plan re-introduction should be done. I thnk they will get rid of the free under 8s season tickets. would be nice if we actually attempted to sell season tickets with some active marketing and fill the ground rather than last years dire effort, i had mates try and buy season tickets after the 1st game of the season only to be told they can't which is absolutely ridiculous. Hope not i expect mine to go up but why deprive the lifeblood of the club,be very harsh imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 with lots of comparisons between us and Norwich in terms of back to back promotions, I'd be interested to know what their prices were for this season as they sold a huge quantity of STs. Our prices went up a fair bit last summer even before the ticket tax, so I'd hope they wouldn't go up hugely again. Bet they do though. I guess success depends on quality players which costs money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickyhale Posted 3 May, 2011 Share Posted 3 May, 2011 I'd be happy to pay anything between £400-£450 same as me think about £450 maybe a little bit more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 I'm actually planning on getting my first season ticket next year, so I'll be interested to see the options available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 same as me think about £450 maybe a little bit more keep that to yourself or before we know it prem tickets will be £600+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 To avoid acrimony in July when I presume that the season tickets will be on sale as last year it would be sensible for those that created last year,( that said that they would have saved the money given notice ), to anticipate the possibility that there won't be an instalment plan. That way if there is an instalment plan, they arrange a personal instalment plan their savings wouldn't be needed but if there is no plan at least they will be in a position to purchase the season ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Fred Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 It should be relatively straightforward, give the turnstile operators a list of banned names and seat numbers and they check against them as people enter the ground. There won't be many, and as soon as one is spotted, the season ticket is either confiscated or they go to the ticket office to hand their money over. Not an ideal solution, by any means, but it's still possible to achieve if they wanted to. Surely that would slow down entry into the ground massively? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 with lots of comparisons between us and Norwich in terms of back to back promotions, I'd be interested to know what their prices were for this season as they sold a huge quantity of STs. Our prices went up a fair bit last summer even before the ticket tax, so I'd hope they wouldn't go up hugely again. Bet they do though. I guess success depends on quality players which costs money. Norwich have been flogging their STs for next season since last December. Full rate works out at £18.41 per match, work it out for yourselves; There's a waiting list and adults have to pay a £50 deposit to get on to it.I guess the price is 23x£18.41 though and not 19x. Later sales might have incurred a VAT rise as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dickyhale Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 (edited) keep that to yourself or before we know it prem tickets will be £600+ The skates are £499 so don't really know what they will be. Anyway what ever their are l will renew mine http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/tickets/season-tickets.aspx Edited 4 May, 2011 by dickyhale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Norwich have been flogging their STs for next season since last December. Full rate works out at £18.41 per match, work it out for yourselves; There's a waiting list and adults have to pay a £50 deposit to get on to it.I guess the price is 23x£18.41 though and not 19x. Later sales might have incurred a VAT rise as well. Like you say next season's were £423.50 if bought before March 5th. They were £389 the season before (1st season back in NPC) so that would seem to be a realistic figure to me. The skates board are just clueless. £500. Madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 4 May, 2011 Share Posted 4 May, 2011 Arsenal's cheapest ST next season? Almost £900. Most expensive? Just under £2k. Madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STEVEADAMS Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 I think comparing any price rise with inflation in this instance isn't really fair as what we'll be getting next season isn't like-for-like. The bigger clubs in the Championship charge anything up to £35 for matchday tickets, which, compared with £22-25 at St Mary's this season, is a pretty big leap. If we want to compete and win promotion again it has to be paid for. Seriously it's understandable that people have budgets but compare costs to other larger clubs and fans need to be realistic with pricing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 I think a 15-17.5% rise in non renewals is fair I think a 10-12.5% rise for renewals is fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 An instalment plan to overcome the cheats, could be instigated by releasing the Tickets in batches up to the end of the 6th month period. This would ensure the dirtect debits are paid to cover and when all cash has been paid, releasing the rest on block. Simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesfp1 Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 Put everything up by £2 or £3, simple. I'd be happy with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralph_wiggum Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 I have spoken to the ticket office recently who confirmed that the free Under 8 tickets will still be available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 Arsenal's cheapest ST next season? Almost £900. Most expensive? Just under £2k. Madness. Works out at around £50 a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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