Dig Dig Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 Mixed reviews for Dean this season, seems to be one of those divisive players. So what do we think about next season? Can he be relied upon in the champ or do we need someone better. Also, do you expect him to continue as captain? For me, he has been a bit if an unsung hero in the last few months and has kept the midfield together well considering the injurys we've had. Chipped in with some important goals as well. I think Fonte should be made captain next season though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 I think he needs replacing personally and can be backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 Dean is a great team player and will continue to play well for us in our promotion from the CCC. Once again team captain.....please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimond Geezer Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 Mixed reviews for Dean this season, seems to be one of those divisive players. So what do we think about next season? Can he be relied upon in the champ or do we need someone better. Also, do you expect him to continue as captain? For me, he has been a bit if an unsung hero in the last few months and has kept the midfield together well considering the injurys we've had. Chipped in with some important goals as well. I think Fonte should be made captain next season though. When it comes this forum, we don't have any players that aren't divisive. There doesn't seem to be any 'ok' players. They are either complete sh1te, or the best player in the world. For me, I agree with what you've said, not sure about the captaincy though, both Pardew & Adkins must rate him in this role, that said, I do think Fonte would make a good captain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 Statred badly got better (which probably applies to most of the team this season). I've always wondered about the captain role though as he seems very quiet on the pitch never gives the impression of being a leader, but he must have something about him as both AP and NA gave him the captaincy as did Colchester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 (edited) Mixed reviews for Dean this season, seems to be one of those divisive players. So what do we think about next season? Can he be relied upon in the champ or do we need someone better. Also, do you expect him to continue as captain? For me, he has been a bit if an unsung hero in the last few months and has kept the midfield together well considering the injurys we've had. Chipped in with some important goals as well. I think Fonte should be made captain next season though. I think it's bit hard on Hammond to say that. He isn't a " show-off " player like Lallana or Chamberlain, but having a defensive midfield role is hardly a plum job. If he misses a tackle - everyone says he rubbish, and when he wins the ball well,.... he's only doing his job-isn't he ? He is pretty committed..if 10 yellow cards is anything to go by, but Fonte has picked up about the same. I agree that Fonte would also be a good captain, but also that it wouldn't change the role of either player, if the "other " got the armband. Lots of players shout and encourage teammates without evert becoming "captain" but the role is important in lifting the side and communicating well with the officials, and in that respect I think Hammond is good. Fonte's wild-ish Latin temperament might be a bit provocative to some ref's (and to some Swedes) ..he looks remarkably like AC Milan's "Swede "... Zlatan Imbrahimovic , who is a real handful and wavers between genius and the teams " bad boy"... complete with several red cards each season). Hammond ? ..or Fonte? ..I don't think it matters. They do different jobs and both are well worth their places IMHO. Edited 5 May, 2011 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 Not got enough pace to do his job to a good standard in NPC IMO. He'd probably be okay for a bottom half finish, but need someone better if we want to aim for the play-offs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 I think he is a good player who always puts in 100% and is good at putting himself about whilst maybe not being the most skilled. He clearly loves playing for Saints and has popped up with some important goals. Seeing as we have good attacking players who need a base to play I think he is a good midfield workhorse, who has played at CCC standard before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 Despite not being the most technically gifted, he has been brilliant this season and could a job next season for sure. I was looking through some of the season highlights on saintsplayer last night, and the amount of times the creation of a goal scoring opportunity starts with Hammond is incredible. He does the simple things well but also has the occasional moment of class - his cross for Chaplow against Peterborough at home, and his goals against Carlisle (I think) and Peterborough away. Add to that his sheer drive and determination, and the fact that you can rely on him smash the opposing team's star player within the first 10 minutes, and I reckon he has been our unsung hero this season. At the very least he deserves a chance to prove himself before we bring in a replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 Has played well since christmas,however whether he is good enough to play in central midfield in the champiuonship is a moot point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintpat Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 I'll take a first choice midfield of Hammond, Schneiderlin, Lallana and Chamberlain into the Championship with no hesitation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 No team can have 10 Lallana's or 10 Hammond's you need workers and flair every now and then you get a worker with flair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 Despite not being the most technically gifted, he has been brilliant this season and could a job next season for sure. I was looking through some of the season highlights on saintsplayer last night, and the amount of times the creation of a goal scoring opportunity starts with Hammond is incredible. He does the simple things well but also has the occasional moment of class - his cross for Chaplow against Peterborough at home, and his goals against Carlisle (I think) and Peterborough away. Add to that his sheer drive and determination, and the fact that you can rely on him smash the opposing team's star player within the first 10 minutes, and I reckon he has been our unsung hero this season. At the very least he deserves a chance to prove himself before we bring in a replacement. Trouble is that as you climb in the hierarchy technical ability becomes more and more determining.You can play in the Southern League with 100% huff and puff and no ability, the league we're leaving behind would probably go about 80/20,next step up about 50/50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 I think that Hammond or Schneiderlin with Chaplow is a good combo. Not so Hammond and Schneiderlin - the goals dry up and we're very one dimensional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 He has been fantastic the last few weeks. Some real "Captain" performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 No team can have 10 Lallana's or 10 Hammond's you need workers and flair every now and then you get a worker with flair True, but whilst Hammond is a worker, he's a very slow one. If we could get a worker with pace, then we'd be laughing. A slow centre midfield will get found out quickly in the Championship imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 We look much better when he's in the team than when he's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 He's a decent footballer. Good first touch, vision and range of passing. His only problem is he is slow. He's had a great second half to the season and led the side well. Oh one more thing. When played with Morgan there sometimes is a lack of understanding of roles. Chaplow simplifies things as he just bombs on and Dean covers. When Morgan plays neither really knows who should go forward and I'm not sure Dean is best rampaging forward as it leaves us exposed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmatt Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 Quality player. When he plays, the whole team plays better. Tremendous engine; tremendous motivator. People talk about MK Dons being the turning point in the season and I believe the comeback had a lot to do with Hammond. When they went 2-0 up I scanned the body language of each and every player - everybody's head had dropped bar Hammond's. He was there clapping his hands, shouting, forcing others to believe a win was still possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 Despite our squad being full of players I'd consider better on the ball, there is something quite reassuring about seeing Hammond's name on the teamsheet because you know what you will get with him up and down the pitch all day doing his bit to put the gamewinners in a position to do their thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 He has been fantastic the last few weeks. Some real "Captain" performances. Without doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmore Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 Quality player. When he plays, the whole team plays better. Tremendous engine; tremendous motivator. People talk about MK Dons being the turning point in the season and I believe the comeback had a lot to do with Hammond. When they went 2-0 up I scanned the body language of each and every player - everybody's head had dropped bar Hammond's. He was there clapping his hands, shouting, forcing others to believe a win was still possible. Agree with that - a really good captains performance especially in the second half of that match - had that "never say die" attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Mabes Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 Has grown on me over the season. Wasn't his biggest fan but agree he does a soild job and is a real worker. Still have to close my eyes when he goes in for his typical rash challenges and suprised he wasn't sent off a few times but i guess his tenacity is also his great merit. Was only thinking the other day that I think he'll score on saturday so that's where my money is going! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 His performances recently have matched the need perfectly which surprised me because i was not one of his fans, as for the captaincy wouldn't add to Fonte's burdens, if it aint broken why mend it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1Minus10 Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 Since we stopped playing him as at attacking midfeilder he's been excellent. He wins tackles and headers and plays it simple. He's too slow on the turn to play further forward. Interesting that his best run of form came when Morgan got injured meaning that he had to play defensive midfield with Chaplow bombing on. Would like to see Morgan play in front of Hammond and trying to create / score goals. He's easily good enough to do this. Think Hammond has had a superb season to be honest. A vital cog in the machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 I'll take a first choice midfield of Hammond, Schneiderlin, Lallana and Chamberlain into the Championship with no hesitation! completely agree. hammond has been very important to us all season. i remember he did have a little blip somewhere along the line, and started to receive some criticism from some, myself included, but all players (except Lallana) go through a bad patch and hammond has come out of it very well indeed. the above midfield line up (if all fit) is delightful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leslie Charteris Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 Deano does much more than just play football, he is the gel in the team - that's why he should always be on the team sheet IMHO. I think he might have been carrying an injury earlier on and he did not play so well, but his performances lately have been great and his commitment absolutely 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat from Poole Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 He has been fantastic the last few weeks. Some real "Captain" performances. Agreed. Also did really well to avoid getting a 2-match ban last month, which could have been very costly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 He divided opinion at Brighton as well. He works very hard and his movement off the ball is brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 5 May, 2011 Share Posted 5 May, 2011 Hadn't been too enthused with Hammond until the last 2 months when he's been excellent, and along with Fonte has really driven the team on to promotion. As mentioned above, he and Morgan seem to struggle as a pair when played together which is frustrating. He definitely needs to play deep in midfield. He doesn't have quick enough feet or the awareness you'd ideally want in an attacking sense. In fact his below par performances seem to have come when he's not been playing in his best position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 6 May, 2011 Share Posted 6 May, 2011 I haven't been his biggest fan, but he definately improved without MS. He deserves a lot of credit for the run-in performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marino Posted 6 May, 2011 Share Posted 6 May, 2011 He was the real MoM against MKD. Generally very impressive since the new year and its good to see him leading the team from the front. A good captain, leave him be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 6 May, 2011 Share Posted 6 May, 2011 Keep him but as cover. Need more technical ability in middle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 6 May, 2011 Share Posted 6 May, 2011 I would not be shocked to see Fonte being made captain at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesaint sfc Posted 6 May, 2011 Share Posted 6 May, 2011 Fantastic as backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelkel31 Posted 6 May, 2011 Share Posted 6 May, 2011 his footwork is too slow passing is very inconsistent, but too often poor too slow across the ground positioning defensively is appalling for a captain i see very little in the way of organizing the team on the pitch if it wasnt for the fact he has a great work ethic he shouldnt be anywhere near the starting 11 and everyone would be on his back. believe it or not for a promotion winning team our midfield has been given the run around in most of our home games if it wasnt for a good defense and a lack of quality in attack throughout the devision we would have struggled to get in the playoffs. he may be getting exposed by the overall team tactics i.e playing with wingers and them not getting back and tucking in when defending but if we stay as we are in the NPC we will consed between 60-70 goals next year. he will be at best 3rd choice behind morgan and the number 1 CM we have to buy to compete next year. nothing against the guy and he will get the standing ovation from me tomorrow for getting us promotion but hard decisions have to be made for next season. all IMHO of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 6 May, 2011 Author Share Posted 6 May, 2011 his footwork is too slow passing is very inconsistent, but too often poor too slow across the ground positioning defensively is appalling for a captain i see very little in the way of organizing the team on the pitch if it wasnt for the fact he has a great work ethic he shouldnt be anywhere near the starting 11 and everyone would be on his back. believe it or not for a promotion winning team our midfield has been given the run around in most of our home games if it wasnt for a good defense and a lack of quality in attack throughout the devision we would have struggled to get in the playoffs. he may be getting exposed by the overall team tactics i.e playing with wingers and them not getting back and tucking in when defending but if we stay as we are in the NPC we will consed between 60-70 goals next year. he will be at best 3rd choice behind morgan and the number 1 CM we have to buy to compete next year. nothing against the guy and he will get the standing ovation from me tomorrow for getting us promotion but hard decisions have to be made for next season. all IMHO of course I think you're being overly critical of Hammond and our midfield in general. The only fault with Hammond as far as I can see is that he lacks pace and for some reason, he plays better without MS. His range of passing has for me been very good and I recall a game where he completed over 90% of his passes which is impressive. There is no way that we would have conceded so few goals at home this season if our midfield was being dominated more often than not. It doesn't matter how good your defence is, it you leave them exposed and don't control midfield, you concede goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 6 May, 2011 Share Posted 6 May, 2011 Since we stopped playing him as at attacking midfeilder he's been excellent. He wins tackles and headers and plays it simple. He's too slow on the turn to play further forward. Interesting that his best run of form came when Morgan got injured meaning that he had to play defensive midfield with Chaplow bombing on. Would like to see Morgan play in front of Hammond and trying to create / score goals. He's easily good enough to do this. Think Hammond has had a superb season to be honest. A vital cog in the machine. wish I had put it that way. Exactly how I see it. Do you think he can make the step up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 6 May, 2011 Share Posted 6 May, 2011 nothing against the guy and he will get the standing ovation from me tomorrow for getting us promotion but hard decisions have to be made for next season. all IMHO of course very good point. No matter what anyone says there is a step up in quality when you go up and the manager needs to be careful about showing too much faith. Norwich released 14 payers and brought in 14 over the course of this season - and they had romped the division the year before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 6 May, 2011 Share Posted 6 May, 2011 very good point. No matter what anyone says there is a step up in quality when you go up and the manager needs to be careful about showing too much faith. Norwich released 14 payers and brought in 14 over the course of this season - and they had romped the division the year before. Brighton released 6 today, I'm sure we won't far behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambertsrightleg Posted 6 May, 2011 Share Posted 6 May, 2011 always thought he was a bit vanilla but his performances against Bristol Rovers and Plymouth have made me reconsider. He's unbelievably commited and isn't afraid to put his body in where it hurts. Something I believe people were calling out for in some our our lesser times........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 6 May, 2011 Share Posted 6 May, 2011 always thought he was a bit vanilla but his performances against Bristol Rovers and Plymouth have made me reconsider. He's unbelievably commited and isn't afraid to put his body in where it hurts. Something I believe people were calling out for in some our our lesser times........ But which will be of lesser importance in the upper spheres of the NPC.There's a lot of good players in that league and lesser ones are soon found out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersubpuckett Posted 6 May, 2011 Share Posted 6 May, 2011 Not good enough - all round game is fine for L1 but I think he'll be out of his depth in NPC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelkel31 Posted 6 May, 2011 Share Posted 6 May, 2011 always thought he was a bit vanilla but his performances against Bristol Rovers and Plymouth have made me reconsider. He's unbelievably commited and isn't afraid to put his body in where it hurts. Something I believe people were calling out for in some our our lesser times........ theres no doubt there, im sure ive seen a few last ditch blocks where hes got no idea where its going to hit him but hes at his level as a starting player, he would i assume he will take over the role of paul wotton as the game closer where his limitations on the ball wont be so much of an hindrance and his commitment will be a benefit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam Posted 6 May, 2011 Share Posted 6 May, 2011 very good point. No matter what anyone says there is a step up in quality when you go up and the manager needs to be careful about showing too much faith. Norwich released 14 payers and brought in 14 over the course of this season - and they had romped the division the year before. Adkins might well make big changes but I wouldnt want him announcing the fact in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonibell Posted 6 May, 2011 Share Posted 6 May, 2011 He has been fantastic the last few weeks. Some real "Captain" performances. Good job the seasons not a few weeks we would be right in the poo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 6 May, 2011 Share Posted 6 May, 2011 Will be decent back-up to Scholes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 6 May, 2011 Share Posted 6 May, 2011 Deano had been awsome espeically the last two months, adds steel, tenacity and adds flair to the side. A great captain who chips in with some vital goals, I have a;ways rated him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willo Posted 7 May, 2011 Share Posted 7 May, 2011 Statred badly got better (which probably applies to most of the team this season). I've always wondered about the captain role though as he seems very quiet on the pitch never gives the impression of being a leader, but he must have something about him as both AP and NA gave him the captaincy as did Colchester. I was at the pre-season match vs Sutton Utd, and it was fascinating to watch the team just metres from the pitch and with a very small crowd - it allowed people watching to hear just how much communication happens on the pitch, and by whom. My impression - and that shared by my mate who is a Reading fan - was just how loud and vocal Hammond was on the pitch. Not only has Hammond been a captain under two managers at Saints, but if i am correct, he was also captain at his previous club(s). I think the reason he has had a stronger second half to the season is because competition (with the introduction of Chaplow) increased. Before Morgan's injury there were a few games where the three of them seemed to be fighting for two positions, and it coincided with an improved Hammond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 7 May, 2011 Share Posted 7 May, 2011 I think he can raise his game. Some of our players will want to prove themselves at this higher level and it might be the catalyst to some improved performances from various players, like Hammond. Whether he can sustain it all season, or even two? But I say, give him a fair crack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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