Saint-Armstrong Posted 20 June, 2011 Share Posted 20 June, 2011 I was on Twitter earlier today, and I had a little tease with the Peterborough owner, and he decided to start Tweeting me about Saints this is definitely his official account as it is linked to his site. The conversation began: @ConnorArmstrong @DMAC102 A centre back, and another striker perhaps. All the best next season, you made L1 exciting and unpredictable for sure!! 19 minutes ago via web Reply: @DMAC102 @ConnorArmstrong Cheers pal.. Maybe 5-5 next time around...Adkins seriously underestimated manager..Hope Birmingham dont read twitter 18 minutes ago via web Reply: @ConnorArmstrong @DMAC102 I always felt he would be good after seeing him speak on Sky. Fergie turnaround was one of biggest shocks I've experienced! 11 minutes ago via web Reply: @ConnorArmstrong @DMAC102 As you're open about it now, were #saintsfc ever in for CMS? And is Cortese as bad as journo's / agents make out? 11 minutes ago via web Reply: @DMAC102 Saints were in before xmas but offer was worst i have ever seen.To embarrassing to put here. Sorry to say. Met Cortese once and was ok. 9 minutes ago via web Not much going on this time of the season, so thought some of you could find interest with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 20 June, 2011 Author Share Posted 20 June, 2011 Posted it because his tweets are protected and you have to request to follow him, so not all twitter users could see his replies. Hope sharing this was of interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 20 June, 2011 Share Posted 20 June, 2011 the offer was rumoured to be less than 1m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 20 June, 2011 Author Share Posted 20 June, 2011 the offer was rumoured to be less than 1m I suppose that would explain it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 20 June, 2011 Share Posted 20 June, 2011 the offer was rumoured to be less than 1m Nothing wrong with us being prudent, but I do worry we'll get blown out of the water by some of the teams who can offer more ££'s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 20 June, 2011 Share Posted 20 June, 2011 twitter stuff should be banned from forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 20 June, 2011 Share Posted 20 June, 2011 Not sure you should be posting private conversations...which it is if you have to request to follow him..... That said, yes it is interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 20 June, 2011 Share Posted 20 June, 2011 Any chance of updating the thread title, it doesn't make any sense because it doesn't mention "bid". Perhaps the bid was low to test the water, after all before Xmas no deal could have been completed. Would be interesting to know what was the response, was it "feck off you're having a giraffe" or "thats a trifle lower than our estimation"? Maybe we went back with a better offer after Xmas, or maybe we considered that anything more was not worth the money. Do people really believe what other people tweet? I think the Dutch Athletics chappie had the right idea about twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 20 June, 2011 Share Posted 20 June, 2011 It's interesting in that Cortese *talks* about where he wants us to be, but seemingly doesn't want to spend the required wonga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 20 June, 2011 Share Posted 20 June, 2011 if we had spent more in January we couldn't have done better. Can't see we can say we have underachieved due to lack of spending so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patred44 Posted 20 June, 2011 Share Posted 20 June, 2011 It's interesting in that Cortese *talks* about where he wants us to be, but seemingly doesn't want to spend the required wonga. I was castigated by a few when I revealed that our "two insulting bids" for Matt Philips, then of Wycombe WFC, lead to the Wycombe chairman refusing to take calls from our club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 20 June, 2011 Share Posted 20 June, 2011 maybe we started with a bid...as many do, then they said £4m and he's yours....bye then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 20 June, 2011 Share Posted 20 June, 2011 Your up to your usual shít stirring rubbish again hey Armstrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patred44 Posted 20 June, 2011 Share Posted 20 June, 2011 maybe we started with a bid...as many do, then they said £4m and he's yours....bye then that's fine..but we tend to insult the selling club with our 2nd and 3rd bids as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 20 June, 2011 Share Posted 20 June, 2011 Armstrong fills the #saintsfc hashtag with poo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 20 June, 2011 Share Posted 20 June, 2011 looks like Matt Philips and CMS both looking for premiership tranfers. would philips have been first choice 11 for money spent? could we have done any better if we had paid £4m or whatever for CMS and would they have sold to rival? This window is more important. Jan window is to get you through the season primarily - we didn't need anymore players unless could get good deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 20 June, 2011 Share Posted 20 June, 2011 that's fine..but we tend to insult the selling club with our 2nd and 3rd bids as well. really....lambert cost as much as the next 3 big signings that summer combined...!!!! did we insult martin o'neil with wages too..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 20 June, 2011 Share Posted 20 June, 2011 It's interesting in that Cortese *talks* about where he wants us to be, but seemingly doesn't want to spend the required wonga. You know you've done a bad job when the other side is happy with the price they've got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 20 June, 2011 Share Posted 20 June, 2011 We arent a big enough club to simply bend forward and take it up the jacksy with whatever asking price a club dreams up. Chelski we're not, lets wait and see who the management team brings in before complaining about who we didnt. Nick G is right, we wouldnt have done any better with CMS, he couldnt have got us any more promoted than we were.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 20 June, 2011 Share Posted 20 June, 2011 really....lambert cost as much as the next 3 big signings that summer combined...!!!! did we insult martin o'neil with wages too..? Let's not forget Jose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 20 June, 2011 Share Posted 20 June, 2011 really....lambert cost as much as the next 3 big signings that summer combined...!!!! did we insult martin o'neil with wages too..? Indeed, but the $64,000 question is where are we now that Marcus is no longer with us? We'll have a better idea soon enough because we do need to strengthen, and in my view we need to strenthen considerably to achieve promotion. As I say Cortese talks to the talk, now it's up to the Liebherr family to support his words with hard cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 20 June, 2011 Share Posted 20 June, 2011 It's interesting in that Cortese *talks* about where he wants us to be, but seemingly doesn't want to spend the required wonga. where hasn't he spent as required? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATERSIDEIFASAINT Posted 20 June, 2011 Share Posted 20 June, 2011 Originally Posted by dune 'It's interesting in that Cortese *talks* about where he wants us to be, but seemingly doesn't want to spend the required wonga'. The test comes this summer imo.Can NC & NA attract the right quality to take this club forward.If they don't spend some money I will certainly question where we are heading with how many good sides there are in the ccc. At the moment this team and squad is mid table at best with all the other major clubs strengthening.I hope we will not be resting on our laurels unless I can see us panick buying when things aren't going to plan at the end of August or January. We need 3/4 quality signings to turn us into at least a top 10 side that could possibly make the play offs.For the current season this would equate to a good season imo. Do people really think this current team with no additions will finish above Leeds , Leicester , Burnley , Ipswich , Reading , Notts Forest , Cardiff , Middlesbrough, West Ham and Birmingham.You could also add Hull , Blackpool and Derby to that list. It is an exceptionally tough league next season which makes it more important to strengthen more than maybe what was 1st planned as you have to react to what your main competitors are upto to keep pace.Teams like Ipswich,Leicester and Derby are all busy strengthening.There are at least 12 sides that will be chasing promotion next season believing that they have got a realistic chance.I don't know what is in NC's and NA'S plans but they did say they wanted us to be competitive challenging at the top end of the division. For this to happen money will have to be spent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 20 June, 2011 Share Posted 20 June, 2011 Originally Posted by dune 'It's interesting in that Cortese *talks* about where he wants us to be, but seemingly doesn't want to spend the required wonga'. The test comes this summer imo.Can NC & NA attract the right quality to take this club forward.If they don't spend some money I will certainly question where we are heading with how many good sides there are in the ccc. At the moment this team and squad is mid table at best with all the other major clubs strengthening.I hope we will not be resting on our laurels unless I can see us panick buying when things aren't going to plan at the end of August or January. We need 3/4 quality signings to turn us into at least a top 10 side that could possibly make the play offs.For the current season this would equate to a good season imo. Do people really think this current team with no additions will finish above Leeds , Leicester , Burnley , Ipswich , Reading , Notts Forest , Cardiff , Middlesbrough, West Ham and Birmingham.You could also add Hull , Blackpool and Derby to that list. It is an exceptionally tough league next season which makes it more important to strengthen more than maybe what was 1st planned as you have to react to what your main competitors are upto to keep pace.Teams like Ipswich,Leicester and Derby are all busy strengthening.There are at least 12 sides that will be chasing promotion next season believing that they have got a realistic chance.I don't know what is in NC's and NA'S plans but they did say they wanted us to be competitive challenging at the top end of the division. For this to happen money will have to be spent Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 20 June, 2011 Share Posted 20 June, 2011 Originally Posted by dune 'It's interesting in that Cortese *talks* about where he wants us to be, but seemingly doesn't want to spend the required wonga'. The test comes this summer imo.Can NC & NA attract the right quality to take this club forward.If they don't spend some money I will certainly question where we are heading with how many good sides there are in the ccc. At the moment this team and squad is mid table at best with all the other major clubs strengthening.I hope we will not be resting on our laurels unless I can see us panick buying when things aren't going to plan at the end of August or January. We need 3/4 quality signings to turn us into at least a top 10 side that could possibly make the play offs.For the current season this would equate to a good season imo. Do people really think this current team with no additions will finish above Leeds , Leicester , Burnley , Ipswich , Reading , Notts Forest , Cardiff , Middlesbrough, West Ham and Birmingham.You could also add Hull , Blackpool and Derby to that list. It is an exceptionally tough league next season which makes it more important to strengthen more than maybe what was 1st planned as you have to react to what your main competitors are upto to keep pace.Teams like Ipswich,Leicester and Derby are all busy strengthening.There are at least 12 sides that will be chasing promotion next season believing that they have got a realistic chance.I don't know what is in NC's and NA'S plans but they did say they wanted us to be competitive challenging at the top end of the division. For this to happen money will have to be spent I don't think that's right. I'd say mid table. Full stop. 3 or 4 quality signings and we should be a serious play off/promotion contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diggers Posted 20 June, 2011 Share Posted 20 June, 2011 I'm confused? Why do you post under two usernames in the same thread Patred44/Saint-Armstrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 20 June, 2011 Share Posted 20 June, 2011 I'm confused? Why do you post under two usernames in the same thread Patred44/Saint-Armstrong? Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westofshannonsaint Posted 20 June, 2011 Share Posted 20 June, 2011 IMHO the target this season should be mid table/challenging for a playoff spot. IF we have a good preseason, I think we all agree that the current squad can achieve mid-table. in such a tight league a sixth place spot is not far away at christmas when we will strengthen where required. bringing the thread (kind of) back on subject. thanks OP for posting your twitter exchange & starting a decent thread in this long, dull summer. As others have said CMS would have been surplus to requirements last season. But there's nothing wrong with bringing in a good player at the right price & is making a low offer for a player a legal way of "tapping" them up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 20 June, 2011 Share Posted 20 June, 2011 IMHO the target this season should be mid table/challenging for a playoff spot. I bet you the target is much higher than that for next season! Why would Cortese set a target of mid table when he wants top half (or better) of the Premier League football asap? Aim low and you will most likely achieve low or lower. The longer it takes to get to the Premier League the harder it will become as you will have to rebuild the squad. May as well use the momentum the club has now and push on ala Norwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westofshannonsaint Posted 20 June, 2011 Share Posted 20 June, 2011 I bet you the target is much higher than that for next season! Sorry I meant realistic target Why would Cortese set a target of mid table when he wants top half (or better) of the Premier League football asap? mid table to challanging for the playoffs is top half. 12th to 6th had a gap last season of 13 pts, it makes sense to see what is required to achieve the best team in the league & it still fits in with the 5 year plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 20 June, 2011 Share Posted 20 June, 2011 Sorry I meant realistic target Why is promotion in 2011/12 not realistic? mid table to challanging for the playoffs is top half. I said top half or better in the Premier League asap, not the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westofshannonsaint Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 (edited) Why is promotion in 2011/12 not realistic? Promotion (Via the playoffs) is realistic (IMHO) I see no reason why not with the current squad along with a bit of luck. I said top half or better in the Premier League asap, not the Championship. we have to get there first, then we can think about Top Half (in the prem) & Europe. I'd rather sustained growth than spending £4m (quoted above) on CMS when we were in league 1. what offer do you think we should have made? Edited 21 June, 2011 by westofshannonsaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 it makes sense to see what is required to achieve the best team in the league & it still fits in with the 5 year plan. From Hypo when he was in a good mood... I have a source at SFC (have posted about him before) and had some lunch with him yesterday where he filled me in on some positive stuff. Cortese has a new five year plan which involves us being top five in the premiership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 Oh well. The bloke actually allows Barry Fry to dictate something he's invested millions in. His judgement isn't really the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westofshannonsaint Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 If i was a betting man I would wager that the new 5 year plan is from now (top 5 in 2016/17). I know Cortese is ambitious but I am sure he is not without some realism. Paying large sums on players who are surplus to requirements is not rational (he says in a vein attempt to bring the thread back on topic) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 Pboro like every other team in country thought saints had major cash on way as AOC was meant to be sold NC refused to get involved in stupid deals that meant saints getting ripped off either way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 From Hypo when he was in a good mood... I passed on the info but am yet to be convinced by it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 From Hypo when he was in a good mood... I passed on the info but am yet to be convinced by it. didnt last long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 I passed on the info but am yet to be convinced by it. Neither am I Top 5 in five years is highly unlikely in my opinion without out spending £300m on transfer fees and loads more on wages Where is the money coming from Since the sad death of Marcus we have spent feck all despite bidding for some players apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 twitter stuff should be banned from forums. maybe so, but like Facebook once it's out there ..it's fair game for anyone to use / misuse....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 Neither am I Top 5 in five years is highly unlikely in my opinion without out spending £300m on transfer fees and loads more on wages Where is the money coming from Since the sad death of Marcus we have spent feck all despite bidding for some players apparently Cue MLG posting exactly what little fees we have spent in his tiring and pedantic manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 Cue MLG posting exactly what little fees we have spent in his tiring and pedantic manner. Cue people announcing exactly what MLG will post next... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 Cortese was absolutely correct making a low bid, good to see that he isn't going to get mugged off by some of the clowns that run clubs in this country (just take a look at football finances if you want confirmation). For example how much are Hull paying for Jimmy Bullard?? Forget about the BS words, it's all about Saints to paying as little as they can and Posh getting as much as they can. That's the dance and Cortese appears to know how to tango. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 It's interesting in that Cortese *talks* about where he wants us to be, but seemingly doesn't want to spend the required wonga. Er - which bit of the five year plan has not been achieved within the timescale he set? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 The worst offer he'd ever seen? £750,000 for a leading player in league 1 is not unreasonable. The money we paid for Rickie Lambert was stellar at the time for the level and the bids here are comparable due to the similar stature of both Bristol Rovers and The Posh. Of course Peterborough have some money behind them now but as a test of resolve, bidding £750 k was absolutely worth doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 Cue MLG posting exactly what little fees we have spent in his tiring and pedantic manner. but he would be right, in whatever manner he posts it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 Cortese was absolutely correct making a low bid, good to see that he isn't going to get mugged off by some of the clowns that run clubs in this country (just take a look at football finances if you want confirmation). For example how much are Hull paying for Jimmy Bullard?? Forget about the BS words, it's all about Saints to paying as little as they can and Posh getting as much as they can. That's the dance and Cortese appears to know how to tango. If we wanted CMS and did not get him I think Cortese is the mug To get decent players you have to pay the going rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patred44 Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 Let's not forget Jose. both Jose and Ricky were signed when Pardew had some say.... On the appointment of Les Reed that situation changed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 If we wanted CMS and did not get him I think Cortese is the mug To get decent players you have to pay the going rate The point has already been made though that if you have money, or expected to get a lot of it very soon, the Market rate will be different. As it happened we didn't need to sign CMS to be strong enough to go up, therefore it could be argued Cortese handled the situation bang on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 21 June, 2011 Share Posted 21 June, 2011 but he would. be right, in whatever manner he posts it Our players in have reduced significantly in terms of Fees paid. We have spent less than we did in our first year and it will be interesting to see whether this continues this year considering that we have a greater need for players this year than last. We spent some money last year but nothing which could not be afforded with our crowds and otter sources of income. Things like bumper contracts to Lallana would be instantly recouped if we were to sell him at any time in the future so even if our financial backing has been reduced, it makes financial sense to give Lallana a decent contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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