paulwantsapint Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 Hope the injury isn't going to keep him out too long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restark19 Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 Made some brilliant saves today, every keeper makes mistakes. Hope he's not out long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 my post 144...as I was saying. Boruc now out.......Davis ..out Ill / Injured?.......so from now on .....it's Gazzaniga folks I think that Boruc deserved his place ..even after he got the wind up at Stoke ...and his dance routine last weekend at The Emirates, but now he's injured ...? where's our second international goalie? January window? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 Does anyone know the actual extent or problem yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 Well first it was a dislocated finger, then Solent said later on about it being broken. Now he's gone for a scan on hand and wrist. Maybe dislocated finger and wrist bent too far back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 Gazzinga is not good enough, I hope KD can take over the gloves. It is not good losing Boruc for long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 I'd prefer Gazza in goal to Kelvin to be honest. But either are a big drop in quality from Boruc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEVMAN Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 Does anyone know the actual extent or problem yet? I had heard it was a broken hand and he could be out for up to 6 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 Straight outta Compton in goal for 6 weeks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 I notice Shay Given went out on loan this week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 I had heard it was a broken hand and he could be out for up to 6 weeks. Well, the January window has just stepped up it's importance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 Well, the January window has just stepped up it's importance. he will probably be back by then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCholulaKid Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 I had heard it was a broken hand and he could be out for up to 6 weeks. Chattin' brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrensup Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 Thevman is normally pretty reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 I had heard it was a broken hand and he could be out for up to 6 weeks. Oh ****! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 (edited) What, if anything, is up with KD ? If he's out as well, who will be the #2 keeper ? EDIT: Just realised it would be Cropper. Edited 1 December, 2013 by badgerx16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 I'd rather have Gazzaniga in goal than Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 I'd rather have a one-handed Boruc than anyone else! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlakeySFC Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 I'd rather have a one-handed Boruc than anyone else! This. The defence have little confidence without Boruc. Really not liking the fact we have Man City, Spurs and Everton before Boruc will even be back in training again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 By my reckoning that's 7-8 league matches. Big chance for Gazza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 Now we will see how good Boruc is. He makes key saves in every game. Gazzaniga isnt ready yet at PL level and Davis is not good enough. We probably have the worst backup keepers in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 Now we will see how good Boruc is. He makes key saves in every game. Gazzaniga isnt ready yet at PL level and Davis is not good enough. We probably have the worst backup keepers in the league. who is at palace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrensup Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 This. The defence have little confidence without Boruc. Based on what exactly... they haven't played with anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 It is a nightmare we've lost Boruc, but the bedwetting and general nastiness towards Gazzaniga is quite a shame really. I'm still trying to work out what he did wrong today. But I have a feeling I won't be able to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 Defence didn't seem confident once Boruc went off. I'm hoping that is more to do with just conceding and then losing Boruc, not that Gazza then came on. I just hope he has improved vastly since last season. This is a tough month and we really need everyone to be on top of their game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 It is a nightmare we've lost Boruc, but the bedwetting and general nastiness towards Gazzaniga is quite a shame really. I'm still trying to work out what he did wrong today. But I have a feeling I won't be able to. He should, without a shadow of a doubt, have saved their third. Any top keeper worth their salt would have kept that out. It was pretty poor how slowly he got down to it. It looked that way on the big screen at the stadium and my view is confirmed having seen it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 He should, without a shadow of a doubt, have saved their third. Any top keeper worth their salt would have kept that out. It was pretty poor how slowly he got down to it. It looked that way on the big screen at the stadium and my view is confirmed having seen it again. It reminded me of a goal he conceded at Goodison last season. I think it was against Jelavic but in any case he should have got down much sooner for it. Without wanting to be too harsh on Gazza, who was certainly thrown in at the deep end, I'm fairly confident Boruc would have got something on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 He should, without a shadow of a doubt, have saved their third. Any top keeper worth their salt would have kept that out. It was pretty poor how slowly he got down to it. It looked that way on the big screen at the stadium and my view is confirmed having seen it again. This. However he hasn't played a competitive game for us for a long time now, so i'm willing to put that one down to a lack of sharpness. Today was going one way based on the second-half performance by Chelsea anyway, so if he had saved it it would've only been damage limitation.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 He should, without a shadow of a doubt, have saved their third. Any top keeper worth their salt would have kept that out. It was pretty poor how slowly he got down to it. It looked that way on the big screen at the stadium and my view is confirmed having seen it again. You must live in some sort of parallel universe where goalkeepers are superhumans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 It reminded me of a goal he conceded at Goodison last season. I think it was against Jelavic but in any case he should have got down much sooner for it. Without wanting to be too harsh on Gazza, who was certainly thrown in at the deep end, I'm fairly confident Boruc would have got something on that. Absolutely - it wasn't a howler by any means but it shows the difference between a top quality keeper and one that isn't ready for Premier League football - I'm convinced Artur would have got to it. When we were conceding goals by the shed load last season Gazza let a lot past him where we all said 'that's not his fault' but I'd wager that with a top form Boruc in goal we would definitely not have conceded so many...Gazza isn't capable of the saves that get us out of trouble in games, Boruc is. That is the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 You must live in some sort of parallel universe where goalkeepers are superhumans Watch it again and tell me Boruc wouldn't have got a hand on it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrensup Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 Defence didn't seem confident once Boruc went off. I'm hoping that is more to do with just conceding and then losing Boruc, not that Gazza then came on. I just hope he has improved vastly since last season. This is a tough month and we really need everyone to be on top of their game. It was more a case of Chelsea throwing the kitchen sink at us I made of it, also any confidence change would because the change happened in the match. If we decided to start the game with Gazzaniga then I'd doubt it would affect them from the off, however maybe after a blunder then I'd understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 Watch it again and tell me Boruc wouldn't have got a hand on it... It is fairly pointless talking keepers on here, for a few years we had a keeper who won player of the season, also voted by his fellow pros as the best in the league he was playing in and still we had the so called experts hiding in the shadows waiting to criticise. Time waits for nobody and so KD is first choice but he should not be third choice.if the manger decides he is then so be it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 Watch it again and tell me Boruc wouldn't have got a hand on it... I have watched it several times - and to say that Boruc or anyone else would have got a hand on it is complete speculation. It is a completely futile argument - but I have more faith in the pundits who have reviewed the goals than the oddballs on here - and I have nor heard or read anything that lays the blame on the keeper for any of the goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 I have watched it several times - and to say that Boruc or anyone else would have got a hand on it is complete speculation. It is a completely futile argument - but I have more faith in the pundits who have reviewed the goals than the oddballs on here - and I have nor heard or read anything that lays the blame on the keeper for any of the goals. Oh well if the pundits don't say anything then you must be right.... I'm not saying it was a howler just that he could have done better and was very slow to get down to it. Fair enough that it was difficult but the making of difficult saves is what separates great keepers from average ones....Boruc is a great keeper, Gazza is thoroughly average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 Crazy idea I know, but how about we get behind Gazza? Possibly could have got the 2nd, but it would have been a v good save. It always looks worse in slo-mo on a replay. It's always going to be harder coming on as a sub keeper. Let alone at Stamford Bridge. It would be great to have 2 international keepers. But keepers sat on the bench every game rarely stay internationals for long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 Oh well if the pundits don't say anything then you must be right.... I'm not saying it was a howler just that he could have done better and was very slow to get down to it. Fair enough that it was difficult but the making of difficult saves is what separates great keepers from average ones....Boruc is a great keeper, Gazza is thoroughly average.i think Boruc is a much better keeper - but regardless of that, blaming Gazza for that goal is nonsense. He actually did nothing wrong while he was on. Saying otherwise is just looking for a scapegoat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 The difference for me was emphasised in Chelsea's second goal. Boruc would have been better positioned and secondly gone for the ball with his left hand, not his right. Boruc is International Class, Gazza has yet to prove he is Prem class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 Boruc made a very similar save in the first half to the one that Gazza tried to make for their 3rd goal. Got down very sharply, made the save on his line and smothered the ball. It's not far-fetched to think that Boruc would have saved the 3rd goal - possibly not with his broken hand though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 The reaction Gazzaniga is getting is a bit OTT. Lets not forget he was thrown in the deep end last year with a shocking defence in front of him. This year we have a far more improved defence. He was never gonna save the Ba goal. Trolls need a new scapegoat though bless em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinchesterSaint Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 Fractured hand and out for 6 weeks according to Sky News. Not good, never thought I'd be praying that Kelvin gets fit soon ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Mikey Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 When was the last time anyone saw Gazza play 90 mins? Is Davis injured, or could he have been promoted to 2nd choice after good showings in training? He should be better than he was last season, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 1 December, 2013 Share Posted 1 December, 2013 Our keepers are cursed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LatvianTolix Posted 2 December, 2013 Share Posted 2 December, 2013 6 weeks out. in the most busy month of the season. this is pants. not proven young gk, Kelv becoming older is not our Nr2 according to MPo. and American Gk, with no League game experience. damn, our Top-6 adventure is over I guess? Who could become Nr1 now while Artur is out? Kelv or Gazza? anyone been to Development games to watch Cody in play??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmacian_saint Posted 2 December, 2013 Share Posted 2 December, 2013 He has been crucial, but hey we could've signed another keeper this summer after last year's early troubles and we didn't, so I assume there was a good reason for us not to. Of course the bedwetting brigade don't even care about who Gazzaniga is and what stage in his career he is at. All they need is someone to bash to show that they know a lot about football. And I know Kelvin deserved to stay in order to finish his career here but let's be honest it's a position in the squad we could do with another alternative in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender Posted 2 December, 2013 Share Posted 2 December, 2013 This. The defence have little confidence without Boruc. Really not liking the fact we have Man City, Spurs and Everton before Boruc will even be back in training again. Man City are gash away. Spurs aren't that great home or away. We would lose at Everton even with a fit Boruc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 2 December, 2013 Share Posted 2 December, 2013 Have we had any official confirmation of his injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie Posted 2 December, 2013 Share Posted 2 December, 2013 To me it looks like the media reports on Boruc have been lifted from here! However Thevman is very reliable, although I really hope wrong on this occasion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 2 December, 2013 Share Posted 2 December, 2013 6 weeks out would be a disaster. I really hope Kelvin(even if he is no Boruc) is fit for Wednesday as Gazzaniga's positioning doesn't fill me with confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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