GGalpin Posted 15 November, 2015 Share Posted 15 November, 2015 Southampton striker opens door for Serie A return http://gazzettaworld.gazzetta.it/news/southampton-pelle-serie-a-return/?utm_content=buffer69442&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 16 November, 2015 Share Posted 16 November, 2015 He ain't going nowhere. Until 2017. Come back to me if that proves to be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 16 November, 2015 Share Posted 16 November, 2015 Southampton striker opens door for Serie A return http://gazzettaworld.gazzetta.it/news/southampton-pelle-serie-a-return/?utm_content=buffer69442&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer The Sun seems to have picked up on this as well, largely the same stuff https://www.dreamteamfc.com/c/pelles-days-at-southampton-may-well-be-numbered/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 16 November, 2015 Share Posted 16 November, 2015 Was he being interviewed by Italian press in Italy? If so it's hardly a surprise that he said nice things about his own country... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 16 November, 2015 Share Posted 16 November, 2015 Southampton striker opens door for Serie A return http://gazzettaworld.gazzetta.it/news/southampton-pelle-serie-a-return/?utm_content=buffer69442&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer Not so much opening the door as refusing to nail it shut when asked a leading question. It's his home country, he's hardly going to say, "f**k that place I'm never going back!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 16 November, 2015 Share Posted 16 November, 2015 Love this one: http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/619917/Manchester-United-Graziano-Pelle-Southampton-transfer-plans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 17 November, 2015 Share Posted 17 November, 2015 (edited) Even at his peak, Lambert never really caused the better teams any problems, other than occasionally with set pieces. He was simply too imobile and lacking in agility. He was very easy for good defenders to marshall. That's not to say he wasn't brilliant, overall for us - of course he was. But he was never, by any stretch, an elite player. It was the complete lack of offering any kind of outlet whatsoever at Arsenal in the first Prem season back up that made me realise we could only get so far with him up top. Whilst we were outclassed all over the pitch and even the likes of Clyne were making basic errors, it was the total isolation and failure to get anything down all game long that showed he was never going to be up there with the likes of Lukaku and Benteke, purely because he just didn't make life difficult enough and didn't have the threat to drop deep and help out whilst still offering a threat up front. Compared to Lambert, Pelle's movement and ability to link in midfield and get up top to offer an option in the box is superb. He did well against Man City in the first game back up, but that match saw us playing some weird tactics and he hadn't even started the match so he had a lot more freshness than usual when he made his impact (and even in that game we suffered from his slowness in breaking upfield from defending corners a couple of times, but we also scored one because he was so late to the area and wasn't picked up). Edited 17 November, 2015 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 17 November, 2015 Share Posted 17 November, 2015 Even at his peak, Lambert never really caused the better teams any problems, other than occasionally with set pieces. He was simply too imobile and lacking in agility. He was very easy for good defenders to marshall. That's not to say he wasn't brilliant, overall for us - of course he was. But he was never, by any stretch, an elite player. He scored against Man Utd, Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea. Don't recall a goal against Arsenal but think he might have got one for Liverpool against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 17 November, 2015 Share Posted 17 November, 2015 It was the complete lack of offering any kind of outlet whatsoever at Arsenal in the first Prem season back up that made me realise we could only get so far with him up top. Whilst we were outclassed all over the pitch and even the likes of Clyne were making basic errors, it was the total isolation and failure to get anything down all game long that showed he was never going to be up there with the likes of Lukaku and Benteke, purely because he just didn't make life difficult enough and didn't have the threat to drop deep and help out whilst still offering a threat up front. Compared to Lambert, Pelle's movement and ability to link in midfield and get up top to offer an option in the box is superb. He did well against Man City in the first game back up, but that match saw us playing some weird tactics and he hadn't even started the match so he had a lot more freshness than usual when he made his impact (and even in that game we suffered from his slowness in breaking upfield from defending corners a couple of times, but we also scored one because he was so late to the area and wasn't picked up). I don't get these arguments at all, any of them. Even the final comment "we also scored one because he was so late to the area and wasn't picked up", reads like a criticism or an accidental consequence of alleged slowness to get in the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 17 November, 2015 Share Posted 17 November, 2015 It really is pathetic the way the press (with the help of agents no doubt) desperately try to generate excitement by "linking" just about any player with any of the so-called "big" clubs every day. I suppose there is no real football news and it's the only way they can sell papers, pandering to the huge swathes of plastic supporters. The mere fact that one paper can list Manure's "top 20" transfer targets, with barely a grain of evidence for any if them, is hilarious. The truth of the matter is that very few players will move In January so there will be little or no real news, so best prepare for lots more being made up. Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angelman Posted 17 November, 2015 Share Posted 17 November, 2015 Shroppie, maybe I am a little sensitive to it, but my view is the press continually want to sell all our players so that they can carry on with their "exodus" stories that they so love writing about us. It seems that we are now firmly seen as a selling club (yes, I know all clubs are) whenever a club comes knocking and one that doesn't really say no very often, and when we do, it is only until the next window. I look to Everton and West Ham to see how they keep hold of their players (or seem to - maybe that is wrong) - it will be interesting to see what happens with Stones, Lukaku, Berkley, et al in the next window or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 17 November, 2015 Share Posted 17 November, 2015 Shroppie, maybe I am a little sensitive to it, but my view is the press continually want to sell all our players so that they can carry on with their "exodus" stories that they so love writing about us. It seems that we are now firmly seen as a selling club (yes, I know all clubs are) whenever a club comes knocking and one that doesn't really say no very often, and when we do, it is only until the next window. I look to Everton and West Ham to see how they keep hold of their players (or seem to - maybe that is wrong) - it will be interesting to see what happens with Stones, Lukaku, Berkley, et al in the next window or two. I have to agree that the press need stories of plausible possible signings for the likes of Man U, Liverpool etc and they have a mindset that a sale from Saints will be more believable than from other clubs, due largely to them perpetuating the "selling club" image. And of course it also reinforces the idea that all players really only want to play for a small group of "top" clubs. Which boosts the plastic supporters' attitude of supremacy. And keeps things simpler for them (the press) as they can continue to focus on and glorify just a few clubs. Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 17 November, 2015 Share Posted 17 November, 2015 You are both being over sensitive, big club equals more clicks it's as simple as that. There is no conspiracy, no on going narrative to preserve. Just plain old economics. Of course every player wants to play for the big boys. But news like this doesn't make it happen, if it's going to happen it will so just sit back and enjoy the ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 17 November, 2015 Share Posted 17 November, 2015 You are both being over sensitive, big club equals more clicks it's as simple as that. There is no conspiracy, no on going narrative to preserve. Just plain old economics. Of course every player wants to play for the big boys. But news like this doesn't make it happen, if it's going to happen it will so just sit back and enjoy the ride. Accepted it's economics but sad that so many football "news" stories should be filed under fiction (b0ll0cks section) and there are so many gullible readers ready to lap it up. And, although these stories don't make things happen, they fuel players' greed and can stir up discontent. Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 17 November, 2015 Share Posted 17 November, 2015 Pelle dismisses exit rumours... http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/14034521.Pelle_dismisses_Southampton_exit_talk/?ref=mac except he doesn't... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 17 November, 2015 Share Posted 17 November, 2015 Pelle dismisses exit rumours... http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/14034521.Pelle_dismisses_Southampton_exit_talk/?ref=mac except he doesn't... Ha, unless I'm mistaken there are no new quotes at all from Graziano... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 17 November, 2015 Share Posted 17 November, 2015 Ha, unless I'm mistaken there are no new quotes at all from Graziano... Read all the way down the page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simo Posted 17 November, 2015 Share Posted 17 November, 2015 Juve couldn't afford him and Oscar ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shroppie Posted 17 November, 2015 Share Posted 17 November, 2015 Pretty well identical reports with totally opposite spin. Sent from my D6503 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfahaji Posted 17 November, 2015 Share Posted 17 November, 2015 Read all the way down the page. Fair enough, but those 'new' quotes at the end aren't anything to do with him staying/leaving, that was really what I was getting at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 14 January, 2016 Share Posted 14 January, 2016 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3400014/Southampton-fear-Graziano-Pelle-return-Italy-amid-Lazio-Juventus-interest.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsmike25 Posted 14 January, 2016 Share Posted 14 January, 2016 There is some truth to this. He wants to stay at Southampton, but heard from a decent source that knows him well that he's pondering Juve, depends on the club really this transfer window. There are rumours that during his so-called "injury lay-off" he was in Turin for talks with Juventus. Wait and see folks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaMarlin Posted 14 January, 2016 Share Posted 14 January, 2016 I still laugh every time I see this story. This version is a re-heated and warmed over version, simply to fill space and with whatever motive The Mail might have to think they stir interest in a currently moribund transfer window. It doesn't contain a single quote to provide any justification, other than an old one with Pelle saying what a lovely country Italy is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 14 January, 2016 Share Posted 14 January, 2016 I still laugh every time I see this story. This version is a re-heated and warmed over version, simply to fill space and with whatever motive The Mail might have to think they stir interest in a currently moribund transfer window. It doesn't contain a single quote to provide any justification, other than an old one with Pelle saying what a lovely country Italy is. I bet this is true people were laughing at Caulker going to liverpool a couple of hours before it was announced. pelle leaving in the summer is nothing worth their while just to fill space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 14 January, 2016 Share Posted 14 January, 2016 I'd be disappointed if we offered him a contract extension. 31 years old this summer, hopefully Rodriguez back fit and clearly would be the right time to sell and bring in a new striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 14 January, 2016 Share Posted 14 January, 2016 I'd be disappointed if we offered him a contract extension. 31 years old this summer, hopefully Rodriguez back fit and clearly would be the right time to sell and bring in a new striker 100% in agreement. It would be mad to tie him to a new deal , especially before Ron signs one . Another manager might not fancy him and any new deal will be for a large wedge . In some ways his situation is similar to Rickies and it maybe time to cash in . It certainly won't be " meltdown " if we do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 14 January, 2016 Share Posted 14 January, 2016 Given how many people on here slag him off for being too immobile and not scoring enough, why would we keep him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pluto Posted 14 January, 2016 Share Posted 14 January, 2016 This journo clearly has an agenda against SFC, every week he comes out with respun tosh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 14 January, 2016 Share Posted 14 January, 2016 Fair enough end of season. But it'll get dressed up as another saints exodus even if we replace him well. Pelle, Wanyama and Mane all in the summer would annoy a lot of fans. Give us about £55-60m? Spend £50m, make a profit again, probably still get mid-table. & the manager, no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 14 January, 2016 Share Posted 14 January, 2016 Pelle has never been a success in Italy so you could hardly blame him for wanting a move to those sorts of teams. If he went in the summer it wouldn't be a disaster. Overall he would have made a good contribution and been an important signing at a crucial time. I would wish him well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 14 January, 2016 Share Posted 14 January, 2016 I bet this is true people were laughing at Caulker going to liverpool a couple of hours before it was announced. pelle leaving in the summer is nothing worth their while just to fill space People are still laughing at Caulker going to Liverpool days after it has happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 15 January, 2016 Share Posted 15 January, 2016 (edited) Pelle has never been a success in Italy so you could hardly blame him for wanting a move to those sorts of teams. If he went in the summer it wouldn't be a disaster. Overall he would have made a good contribution and been an important signing at a crucial time. I would wish him well. As long as its not motivated by socerer les and his apprentice wee ross thinking they can recoup the fee on him, with age and contract pointing in the other direction. Pelle's been an excellent signing and succeeded where many other, bigger name strikers have failed. Unlike Lambert, Pelle's got plenty of tread left on the tires -and I'd be happy to offer him a new contract or take the hit and let his contract run down. With strikers, its definitely a case of bird in the hand is worth two in the bush and is hugely preferable to Les and Ross trying to conjure up goals with their moneyball. Edited 15 January, 2016 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 18 January, 2016 Share Posted 18 January, 2016 Pelle could well be off this window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 18 January, 2016 Share Posted 18 January, 2016 Pelle could well be off this window So will the milk in my fridge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hans gruber Posted 18 January, 2016 Share Posted 18 January, 2016 People are still laughing at Caulker going to Liverpool days after it has happened. Thats because he has been their best striker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 18 January, 2016 Share Posted 18 January, 2016 This is looking very likely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeShmoe Posted 18 January, 2016 Share Posted 18 January, 2016 Have to say i won't be overly upset if he moves on. We've looked a better team with him not in it and if he wants to move to a big club in his home country then why begrudge that l. We have long, Austin and JRod to come back - maybe try and get a decent defender off Juve in the deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 18 January, 2016 Share Posted 18 January, 2016 Have to say i won't be overly upset if he moves on. We've looked a better team with him not in it and if he wants to move to a big club in his home country then why begrudge that l. We have long, Austin and JRod to come back - maybe try and get a decent defender off Juve in the deal I think you need to look at the big picture, if Pelle leaves. What about the massive slump in the local economy when the sale of hair products drops by 50%.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 18 January, 2016 Share Posted 18 January, 2016 This is looking very likely Not this window if RK is to be believed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shance Posted 18 January, 2016 Share Posted 18 January, 2016 Pelle is going nowhere this window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 18 January, 2016 Share Posted 18 January, 2016 Pelle could well be off this window Is that what TalkSport is telling you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 18 January, 2016 Share Posted 18 January, 2016 A good Euro tournament in the summer would guarantee plenty of interest from top Italian clubs, and (like Lambert).... I wouldn't begrudge him a move away. By the time a player reaches 30, he ought to have made his career, a move of his own choosing would be no problem from my viewpoint. It's not as if he's 24.. and greedy. If he gets more goals before the end of the season, then it will only increase his value in an eventual sale, and I can't believe he'd prefer Holland or England over Italy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 18 January, 2016 Share Posted 18 January, 2016 Is that what TalkSport is telling you? Their transfer expert Warren Haughton has his fingers on the SSN and Daily Mirror pulse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 18 January, 2016 Share Posted 18 January, 2016 A good Euro tournament in the summer would guarantee plenty of interest from top Italian clubs, and (like Lambert).... I wouldn't begrudge him a move away. By the time a player reaches 30, he ought to have made his career, a move of his own choosing would be no problem from my viewpoint. It's not as if he's 24.. and greedy. If he gets more goals before the end of the season, then it will only increase his value in an eventual sale, and I can't believe he'd prefer Holland or England over Italy. Totally with you on this. He came in during a time we needed a striker with experience, someone RK could rely on and be a focal point for the team. He knew Pelle and knew he could trust him. We had just lost Lambert, someone who had dragged the club through the divisions with his goals and ability over the 5 years so needed a replacement who could deal with a bit of pressure to succeed. Pelle hasnt set the world alight but he's proven to be a solid PL player, however I've got the feeling that even RK has now realised how much more the team is suited to a mobile front man as has proven with Long over the last few weeks. The signing of Austin only reinforces this. Pelle's lack of movement and more often than not, slightly poor hold up play I feel has stifled us over the last couple of seasons. Long's pace and movement has improved players like Steven Davis as he now has more space to work in and has plenty of options when he has the ball - he can chip it to Long, play it in the channel, drop the ball over the top. Austin and Jay Rod will only add more quality and movement in the final third. When Pelle leaves, all the best to him. Joined in a time of need, got us some important goals to kick-start both seasons, yet you always feel he has that dry spell in him as has proven in both of his seasons here. When the going gets tough, he seems to get wound up easily and appears to lose focus. However, with his PL and now international experience, he'll for sure be a better striker in Italy now than he was many years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kermitsaint Posted 18 January, 2016 Share Posted 18 January, 2016 As long as its not motivated by socerer les and his apprentice wee ross thinking they can recoup the fee on him, with age and contract pointing in the other direction. Pelle's been an excellent signing and succeeded where many other, bigger name strikers have failed. Unlike Lambert, Pelle's got plenty of tread left on the tires -and I'd be happy to offer him a new contract or take the hit and let his contract run down. With strikers, its definitely a case of bird in the hand is worth two in the bush and is hugely preferable to Les and Ross trying to conjure up goals with their moneyball. Unlike Lambert ? Whats Lambert got to do with this ? Unless you want to compare Lambert to Pelle when he was 30 ( as Pelle is now ) in which case you're talking about a vastly superior player . Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kermitsaint Posted 18 January, 2016 Share Posted 18 January, 2016 Unlike Lambert ? Whats Lambert got to do with this ? Unless you want to compare Lambert to Pelle when he was 30 ( as Pelle is now ) in which case you're talking about a vastly superior player . Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk Ignore this comment about Lambert , my brain wasn't working . I understand your point although I think Lambert could have still been a success had he stayed . Personally I wouldn't be unhappy if Pelle left . He holds back the team . Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 18 January, 2016 Share Posted 18 January, 2016 Pelle could well be off this window In your dreams Batman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW5 SAINT Posted 18 January, 2016 Share Posted 18 January, 2016 I think you need to look at the big picture, if Pelle leaves. What about the massive slump in the local economy when the sale of hair products drops by 50%.... It's already dropped 50% after Toby left the area :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonicBoom Posted 18 January, 2016 Share Posted 18 January, 2016 Will be a shame if and when he moves on. He's been a great signing. Really good with the fans, humble and seemed to really want to give his best. That said we did become very predictable just knocking the ball up to him and letting him flick it on or holding it up. We've looked better recently with extra movement. He also never seems to create a chance for himself. With the arrival of Austin coupled with his age, the writing is on the wall. But I'll say again, for 8 million when we were looking for a focal point he was excellent business. I for one wouldn't be disappointed if he stayed to the end of his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 18 January, 2016 Share Posted 18 January, 2016 Ignore this comment about Lambert , my brain wasn't working . I understand your point although I think Lambert could have still been a success had he stayed . Personally I wouldn't be unhappy if Pelle left . He holds back the team . Sent from my SM-G925I using Tapatalk No problem. I agree to some extent. I certainly don't think his decline would have been as sharp as it has subsequently been at Liverpool/WBA, though I do think we had seen the best of him -and the club's decision to entertain offers was largely justified. With the Austin signing, I'm now less opposed to selling Pelle, though preferably that'll be at the end of the season once we've had a chance to see how Austin settles in and whether we can play to his strengths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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