Lallana's Left Peg Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 Well, if it happens I guess it will make a few on here happy. Personally I hope it doesn't but nothing surprises me in football. Ron will have known before he joined that this club doesn't flash the cash so I am hoping it is b*ll*cks. Doubt he will walk like that. He has been allowed to bring in a lot of his own targets and he has struggled to get the best out of them this season. So whilst we may spend somewhat meekly and I think he would have a point, what we have spent on has been on a lot of 'his guys' so he is also responsible for the mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett24 Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 20/1 with Coral, could be worth a £10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ade Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 For all those wanting to see youngsters coming through into the first team and expecting them to be more loyal....remind me what has happened in the past to those brought through? Chambers, Lalana, Ox, Sneiderlin, Walcott, Bale (although we had to sell him). If they do well then they are poached by the bigger clubs, and they go. They are no different from players we buy that are also wanted. Don't get me wrong, I would prefer kids to come through and take the league by storm, but therein lies the problem. If they are that good they will go. I'm sure the club would also prefer the kids to come through into the first team as they cost a lot less and when they do come good and do leave, they leave for millions so the club makes a vast profit. But, they need to be good enough for the first team in the first place. Ronald is the one to decide that and if he thinks they aren't then we need to buy players that are. There's no easy answer and that is the dilemma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 Well, if it happens I guess it will make a few on here happy. Personally I hope it doesn't but nothing surprises me in football. Ron will have known before he joined that this club doesn't flash the cash so I am hoping it is b*ll*cks. Don't be sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkboy Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 Who would the ultimate decision to sack Ron rest with? Ralph, Rogers or Reed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 Well, if it happens I guess it will make a few on here happy. Personally I hope it doesn't but nothing surprises me in football. Ron will have known before he joined that this club doesn't flash the cash so I am hoping it is b*ll*cks. Haven't we been flashing the cash since he's been here ? Bet we've flashed it a lot more than any other club that he's ever been at. We've spent about 120 million since his appointment and that is a far old sum for a club such as ours. If nyone cares to work out how much say Tottenham or Arsenal have spent over the same period that would be quite interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 Who would the ultimate decision to sack Ron rest with? Ralph, Rogers or Reed? Reed with the backing of the rest of the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 Doubt he will walk like that. He has been allowed to bring in a lot of his own targets and he has struggled to get the best out of them this season. So whilst we may spend somewhat meekly and I think he would have a point' date=' what we have spent on has been on a lot of 'his guys' so he is also responsible for the mess.[/quote'] If by mess you mean being in midtable then that isn't too bad a mess to be in is it? I bet that clubs like Newcastle Sunderland and Villa would like to be in a mess like us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 Haven't we been flashing the cash since he's been here ? Bet we've flashed it a lot more than any other club that he's ever been at. We've spent about 120 million since his appointment and that is a far old sum for a club such as ours. If nyone cares to work out how much say Tottenham or Arsenal have spent over the same period that would be quite interesting. We have spent when we haven't had any choice due to players leaving. We are not a club that spends a lot of money in mid season and we are not a club that spends to speculate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 Who would the ultimate decision to sack Ron rest with? Ralph, Rogers or Reed? An ice hockey coach, an accountant or a bloke two years away from pensionable age then! Is that our brains trust? No wonder we're in a relegation battle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 If by mess you mean being in midtable then that isn't too bad a mess to be in is it? I bet that clubs like Newcastle Sunderland and Villa would like to be in a mess like us. I think its a mess personally. Didn't expect to finish 7th in the league and then 6 months later be 6 places worse off. Season can be somewhat salvaged but overall it has been a mess: 1. Didn't even quality for Europa League 2. Toby farce 3. Lost two other starters (Clyne and Schneiderlin) and failed to adequately replace them 4. Bottled second biggest game of season (Liverpool in the Quarter-Final, most important being the away game in Denmark) 5. 13th in the league and lost 7 of 9 And I haven't even mentioned the players refusing to sign new contracts. Don't think it will go down as an average season. It's ****e at best. Only a really strong second half of the season resulting in a Top 10 finish would be anywhere near acceptable, even then when you write down what has happened since June it's a bit of a joke. But that is just my opinion - I thought the club would do a better job at sustaining itself in the Top 8 or so but I think I my confidence was misplaced after this summers transfer activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 I know it's Twitter but rumor on there saying big bust up between Koeman and the board over transfer funds and Koeman is set to walk. G'day. Got any links to these twitter rumours? (I've searched for 'Koeman' mentions over the last 5 hours and can't find one). Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 Koeman out........Rafa Benitez in..... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 An ice hockey coach, an accountant or a bloke two years away from pensionable age then! Is that our brains trust? No wonder we're in a relegation battle! Lol, now when you put it like that! Curly, Larry and Moe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 To be honest I think he become disinterested ages ago you only have to look at the mans body language half the time..... if it happens it happens we'll survive i'm not going to lose any sleep over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 I think its a mess personally. Didn't expect to finish 7th in the league and then 6 months later be 6 places worse off. Season can be somewhat salvaged but overall it has been a mess: 1. Didn't even quality for Europa League 2. Toby farce 3. Lost two other starters (Clyne and Schneiderlin) and failed to adequately replace them 4. Bottled second biggest game of season (Liverpool in the Quarter-Final, most important being the away game in Denmark) 5. 13th in the league and lost 7 of 9 And I haven't even mentioned the players refusing to sign new contracts. Don't think it will go down as an average season. It's ****e at best. Only a really strong second half of the season resulting in a Top 10 finish would be anywhere near acceptable, even then when you write down what has happened since June it's a bit of a joke. But that is just my opinion - I thought the club would do a better job at sustaining itself in the Top 8 or so but I think I my confidence was misplaced after this summers transfer activity. How can we be 6 places worse off when the season hasn't ended and there are 18 more games to go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett24 Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 Looks like they have been deleted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 Looks like they have been deleted. And why would that be then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 G'day. Got any links to these twitter rumours? (I've searched for 'Koeman' mentions over the last 5 hours and can't find one). Cheers Me neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 To be honest I think he become disinterested ages ago you only have to look at the mans body language half the time..... if it happens it happens we'll survive i'm not going to lose any sleep over it. The man has played at the top level and aspires to manage at the top level. He has said himself he doesn't like to lose. You might think that he is disinterested but that is purely your opinion. There is a big difference about losing interest and being frustrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millbrook Saint Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 Haven't we been flashing the cash since he's been here ? Bet we've flashed it a lot more than any other club that he's ever been at. We've spent about 120 million since his appointment and that is a far old sum for a club such as ours. If nyone cares to work out how much say Tottenham or Arsenal have spent over the same period that would be quite interesting. We may have spent a lot of money but that was all getting replacements for players which left, we haven't been splashing the cash making the first team stronger, we've been splashing the cash replacing our top players with not as good players (yet). You can't really compare to tottenham or Arsenal who don't lose half their squad each summer and have to replace them, it would be very nice to keep our first team together and adding just one top player to the squad each summer. Then if we spent say £30 million we'd be splashing the cash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 Haven't we been flashing the cash since he's been here ? Bet we've flashed it a lot more than any other club that he's ever been at. We've spent about 120 million since his appointment and that is a far old sum for a club such as ours. If nyone cares to work out how much say Tottenham or Arsenal have spent over the same period that would be quite interesting. When you consider the mess he walked into when he arrived, and the players he lost subsequently, it's actually pretty amazing what he has achieved here. I can't be arsed to check on the net spend, and none of us knows all of the players relative wages, but on transfer fees alone he has to be right in what he said. It's not just the outgoing money, obviously that's a high figure, it's what we've sold to get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 Whether it's bad luck, poor management, poor playing or whatever... this season has been rubbish and is looking more likely to stay rubbish than become good. As has been noted above: i) we made a mess of a rare European campaign - a bad cup result happens from time to time but our tactics and execution were terrible in both games against Midgetland; ii) we got absolutely thrashed in a home cup quarter final (although we seem to be the only team in the world that ever has to actually play against Daniel Sturridge); iii) we have regressed in terms of league performance (despite the general quality of the league being abysmal). Obviously a relatively bad season happens to everyone from time to time but it's natural in a rubbish season to speculate as to why it's rubbish. Taking the Midgetland tie as a case-study, Koeman has been outspoken in the past about opponents playing long-ball. Puzzling then that, in that tie, we went for Pelle and Rodriguez up front and a "hit the big man" approach (especially as it seemed to play straight into their methodical approach). It was a complete abandonment of the norm and quite odd. It made me wonder if the Koemans had got caught on the hop a bit with the season's preparations for some reason. I don't think Ronald's injury helped and I wonder if some focus was lost. We won't be going down (although I win two grand if we do so I don't really care either way) because we only need four wins and a couple of draws and we will get those but we do need a reassessment as to what the first team will stand for next season and what we want our manager to deliver when it comes to an identity and a vision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 Looks like they have been deleted. There's a surprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 Koeman is 2 EPL defeats away from the sack Koeman is 2 EPL vicotries from being our manager for the future. The next two league games will decide. (The FA Cup game will not count for much). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 iii) we have regressed in terms of league performance (despite the general quality of the league being abysmal). While we've certainly regressed, I actually think this is because the "general quality" of the league has improved immeasurably. The top teams are all battling to make a complete pig's ear of things, while those in middling positions now have the financial clout to be able to attract players they wouldn't have even dreamed of before, so you've got Crystal Palace signing Yoann Cabaye and Stoke signing Xherdan Shaqiri, FFS Basically, many of the teams we were comfortably ahead of last season have caught up with us pretty rapidly. There's still the nucleus of a very good side in there, and we've not actually had many absolute stinker performances this season (except for the big cup games, naturally ), it's been fine margins that have cost us, whereas last season they were largely going in our favour. Sharpen up a bit in both boxes and we'll climb back up the table, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 (edited) When you consider the mess he walked into when he arrived, and the players he lost subsequently, it's actually pretty amazing what he has achieved here. I can't be arsed to check on the net spend, and none of us knows all of the players relative wages, but on transfer fees alone he has to be right in what he said. It's not just the outgoing money, obviously that's a high figure, it's what we've sold to get it. As you say we had a pretty good season last year, didn't hear anyone calling for cash splashing last January really. Now things aren't so great and yet we only sold 2 main line players and lost a loanee who were all replaced with what would seem to be Koeman signings, so why do we suddenly need to spend even more to keep the same manager? I am confused, he's had his head and did well last season, now we need to spend or he'll walk away...I just don't buy it. Now if you told me that he actually really wants to sell Mané and Wanyama and spend the proceeds..well that I could believe. Edited 4 January, 2016 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 Koeman is 2 EPL defeats away from the sack Koeman is 2 EPL vicotries from being our manager for the future. The next two league games will decide. (The FA Cup game will not count for much). Lose the next two home league games and I might just join the Dark Side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 The Board are gutless and incapable of taking the decision to fire Koeman and Co. Such a decision would need a man of Cortese's grandeur and we no longer have anyone of that level. We are therefore in a very perilous situation. We will dither and tango till all the decent replacements are no longer available . Wanyama should be shipped out at once. If United are prepared to pay over the odds then MANE should go as well. One thing Rupert Lowe was right about and that is you don't keep hold of a player who wants to leave. We need to act now and give ourselves the time to get back on track and stabilise a sinking ship. Can't envision anyone capable of taking such a decision and therefore a worse situation is about to unfold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 we do need a reassessment as to what the first team will stand for next season and what we want our manager to deliver when it comes to an identity and a vision. We're a football club, not a political party or marketing agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Benali Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 I know it's Twitter but rumor on there saying big bust up between Koeman and the board over transfer funds and Koeman is set to walk. I saw someone mention it is to do with not only results but the lack of playing time for the kids. Wonder how much that is true. I guess if our policy is to sell every summer you need some home grown youngsters to shine through, which is difficult if they are not playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 I saw someone mention it is to do with not only results but the lack of playing time for the kids. Wonder how much that is true. I guess if our policy is to sell every summer you need some home grown youngsters to shine through, which is difficult if they are not playing. When did it become a "policy" to sell every summer? Our hand may have been forced during the last two summers and might be again this summer by certain players but there is a difference in pragmatically letting people go who are in the last year of their contract and selling players per se. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkboy Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 I saw someone mention it is to do with not only results but the lack of playing time for the kids. Wonder how much that is true. I guess if our policy is to sell every summer you need some home grown youngsters to shine through, which is difficult if they are not playing. There was this thread from back in August regarding a Neil Ashton article. Could it have been that? http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?55008-Tenaions-Between-Koeman-and-Reed Ashton wrote; A year on, there is tension building between Koeman and Southampton’s head of football development Les Reed, with the pair in frequent disagreement over the talent pool at the club. I know, I know.............it's the dreadful Ashton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 The Board are gutless and incapable of taking the decision to fire Koeman and Co. Such a decision would need a man of Cortese's grandeur and we no longer have anyone of that level. We are therefore in a very perilous situation. We will dither and tango till all the decent replacements are no longer available . Wanyama should be shipped out at once. If United are prepared to pay over the odds then MANE should go as well. One thing Rupert Lowe was right about and that is you don't keep hold of a player who wants to leave. We need to act now and give ourselves the time to get back on track and stabilise a sinking ship. Can't envision anyone capable of taking such a decision and therefore a worse situation is about to unfold. A lot of sense in this post. I would however say, that Koeman has two league matches left to deliver at least 4 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 We may have spent a lot of money but that was all getting replacements for players which left, we haven't been splashing the cash making the first team stronger, we've been splashing the cash replacing our top players with not as good players (yet). You can't really compare to tottenham or Arsenal who don't lose half their squad each summer and have to replace them, it would be very nice to keep our first team together and adding just one top player to the squad each summer. Then if we spent say £30 million we'd be splashing the cash This. We have spent less money than we took in for two seasons, and are one of the lowest payers in EPL (all confirmed by RK), and who is to say the players that RK has brought in were his first choice? There were several players mentioned as our targets who we did not get - don't have time to look through all of them, but clearly we tried to make Toby permanent, seems we were after Chicharito (who turned us down), also another big name full back, and attacking midfielder (from memory) - could be wrong but the main point is as made above, we are not spending to strengthen season on season on first team players (not squad), and who really knows if RK is really being backed in his first choice recruits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 (edited) This. We have spent less money than we took in for two seasons, and are one of the lowest payers in EPL (all confirmed by RK), and who is to say the players that RK has brought in were his first choice? There were several players mentioned as our targets who we did not get - don't have time to look through all of them, but clearly we tried to make Toby permanent, seems we were after Chicharito (who turned us down), also another big name full back, and attacking midfielder (from memory) - could be wrong but the main point is as made above, we are not spending to strengthen season on season on first team players (not squad), and who really knows if RK is really being backed in his first choice recruits? No we haven't, Ralphie said so. The club are not stockpiling money you know. We sold players, we bought players, we're spending more on salaries, agents fees and loan fees than ever before. Do not let your fag packet maths fool you, it's all gone. That the quality of the players bought is less than that of the players sold means squat, we still spent the same amount on them. Edited 4 January, 2016 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 RK has been backed more than any other manager in my lifetime. We have always sold players (not in the numbers of the last two summers, granted) But I don't remember a manager getting hacked with relative huge funds like Ron has If the Twitter thing is true (debatable) then I think he is not too keen on staying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 RK has been backed more than any other manager in my lifetime. We have always sold players (not in the numbers of the last two summers, granted) But I don't remember a manager getting hacked with relative huge funds like Ron has If the Twitter thing is true (debatable) then I think he is not too keen on staying The only comparable manager is George Burley in terms of significant sums (for the level we were/are at) and freedom to build his own team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 RK has been backed more than any other manager in my lifetime. We have always sold players (not in the numbers of the last two summers, granted) But I don't remember a manager getting hacked with relative huge funds like Ron has If the Twitter thing is true (debatable) then I think he is not too keen on staying Well the "Twitter thing" is probably just made up bollorks which may or may not have ever existed. As you say he's had plenty of money but the results aren't as good as might be expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyle04 Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 Nearly all of the best talent at the club have gone in the past 2 years - the cupboard is alomst bare save Mane and Vic (apparently), who now appear ready to leave also. If JWP had developed into another Morgan (I know....) he'd be on his way too. Players / agents are greedy and utterly without loyalty, but so are chairmen and managers, its a vicious cycle of greed and unrealistic ambition. Everyone at the sharp end knows this and its way past the point of changing (Lawrie Mac and Matt are a thing of the past...). But most here will remember our pre-lower league teams - we are at the point now of where we have "normally" been. We've over achieved for a couple of seasons IMO and everyone expects us to be a top 6 club. We're not, and very rarely have been, when we have had a decent set of players the club get raided by the "big boys" (what are Spurs and Liverpool gonna win this year - same as us most likely : F*** All, so its was just the money Adam). All together now : "owen who oh when ........" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 RK has been backed more than any other manager in my lifetime. We have always sold players (not in the numbers of the last two summers, granted) But I don't remember a manager getting hacked with relative huge funds like Ron has If the Twitter thing is true (debatable) then I think he is not too keen on staying He hasn't been though. Look at his net spend, compared to Adkins, MP or Pardew as examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 (edited) He hasn't been though. Look at his net spend, compared to Adkins, MP or Pardew as examples. But then Cortese spent money that Liebherr doesn't seem to be willing to spend, we were investing for the future.. Most seem to think that's a good thing so you can't have it both ways. Those managers bought or developped the players which later brought in stacks of cash. That's the way the club works. If Koeman now wants more money to spend then he needs to sell players to get it. Edited 4 January, 2016 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 But then Cortese spent money that Liebherr doesn't seem to be willing to spend. Most seem to think that's a good thing so you can't have it both ways. I'm not sure what your point is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 How are we supposed to keep players who can earn at least twice as much at clubs whose facilities & chances of CL football are better than ours? Players with 12 months on their contracts........ People moaning about us not keeping players should go & support Man Utd (oh forgot about Ronaldo), Arsenal (oh forgot about Van Persie), Liverpool (oh forgot about Suarez)..... Citeh & Chelsea keep players by paying 4 or 5 times our maximum wage. I'm waiting for someone to say Everton..............Rooney didn't leave them did he? Be interesting to see if Lukaku & Stones stay in the summer. Don't forget though that Lukaku is on over £100k. £30m for Shaw & people are moaning. It's not RK's fault we didn't get Alderverwield. Stoke are paying £100k pw To Shaqiri FFS! We could start paying £100k pw, but that is no guarantee of success. Frustration for me is not buying young British players like Clyne. Stones & Galloway came from Barnsley & MKD (I think). Do we even scout Champ & below?? Also pees me off how highly Potchetino is regarded. Did any of you go to Sunderland? Remember Osvaldo? The job RK has done since he came here us exceptional & we should be grateful he's still here. Yep, he has made mistakes (who hasn't?) Wanyama on Saturday is a great example, but there are absolutely no guarantees anyone else will do any better. Love to hear from Reed. RK faces the press after every game, come win or lose. Reed only talks when he can take credit, time for him to talk about recruitment in my opinion. Be careful what you wish for.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 Nearly all of the best talent at the club have gone in the past 2 years - the cupboard is alomst bare save Mane and Vic (apparently), who now appear ready to leave also. If JWP had developed into another Morgan (I know....) he'd be on his way too. Players / agents are greedy and utterly without loyalty, but so are chairmen and managers, its a vicious cycle of greed and unrealistic ambition. Everyone at the sharp end knows this and its way past the point of changing (Lawrie Mac and Matt are a thing of the past...). But most here will remember our pre-lower league teams - we are at the point now of where we have "normally" been. We've over achieved for a couple of seasons IMO and everyone expects us to be a top 6 club. We're not, and very rarely have been, when we have had a decent set of players the club get raided by the "big boys" (what are Spurs and Liverpool gonna win this year - same as us most likely : F*** All, so its was just the money Adam). All together now : "owen who oh when ........" Exactly!! Players dress cash up as ambition.....................if we paid £200k pw Lallana & the others would have stayed!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 I'm not sure what your point is? KL doesn't want to spend any more of her money, we know that Krueger, told us so. Most seem to think that Cortese spent money that he shouldn't have and now we don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 KL doesn't want to spend any more of her money, we know that Krueger, told us so. Most seem to think that Cortese spent money that he shouldn't have and now we don't. Still not sure what your point is, but don't worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 It's all a bit gloomy isn't it? Next few games assume ever greater significance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 The Board are gutless and incapable of taking the decision to fire Koeman and Co. Maybe the board are in two minds....like some of the posters on here...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 4 January, 2016 Share Posted 4 January, 2016 Maybe the board are in two minds....like some of the posters on here...? It's only art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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