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So far then, we have signing Sanda as a benefit of our exciting multi club model. Oh, and that any further benefits will take years to come to fruition. Luckily, SR have been very successful in their years so far, so we have more to look forward to. Lucky us eh, thank fuck MLG is here to let us all know.

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1 minute ago, Mboto Gorge said:

“Straw man fallacies” - meaning you don’t want to actually answer them then? Criticises others for not answering supposed questions then just brushes mine away and labels them “strawman fallacies” when he can’t answer them. 
What an odious little creep you are 

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They can't be answered due to the very nature of them being strawman fallacies! You've misrepresented my position and then asked questions based on that misrepresentation. It is fundamentally flawed.

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Just now, Matthew Le God said:

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They can't be answered due to the very nature of them being strawman fallacies! You've misrepresented my position and then asked questions based on that misrepresentation. It is fundamentally flawed.

I really haven’t,  it’s a simple question for you to answer. Particularly the stadium one. The hilarious thing is, the majority of your questioning of others are based on straw man fallacies. So you’re being ridiculously hypocritical. You constantly mispresent someone’s argument to make it easier to attack, I even picked you up on it further up on this thread earlier this morning and you conveniently ignored it.  And then think you’re being oh so clever by refusing to answer my very simple questions relating to your constant defence of our owners, by labelling them strawman fallacies, which is precisely what you do to others. Absolutely hilarious. 

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36 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

The Japanese lad we have, who has actually looked pretty decent, will probably end up in Turkey in January.

Benefit me up....

Strange one that played well against Norwich scored a belter not had a look in since

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8 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said:

I really haven’t,  it’s a simple question for you to answer. Particularly the stadium one. The hilarious thing is, the majority of your questioning of others are based on straw man fallacies. So you’re being ridiculously hypocritical. You constantly mispresent someone’s argument to make it easier to attack, I even picked you up on it further up on this thread earlier this morning and you conveniently ignored it.  And then think you’re being oh so clever by refusing to answer my very simple questions relating to your constant defence of our owners, by labelling them strawman fallacies, which is precisely what you do to others. Absolutely hilarious. 

Your question in the stadium was this...

"so when’s the stadium expansion likely to happen then? Any timescales yet?"

I have never claimed to know more about it than anything that isn't already in the press. The council, club, owner/chairman and CEO have all been talking about it in the last 18 months.

Name a single strawman fallacy I've used.

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51 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Strange one that played well against Norwich scored a belter not had a look in since

Matsuki would be playing ahead of Azaz / Fellows / Armstrong (maybe Charles / Jander ) 

He's another small player to add to Scienza, Arma, Archer, Fraser, Jelert.

He'd need to be bossing it in training to get that breakthrough I suspect.

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4 hours ago, Turkish said:

Can anyone think of any benefits we’ve had from this multi club arrangement? I know we were told there were plenty but anyone got any examples?

I'm enjoying watching VA after dinner on Fridays.

Which is more than any of the VA fans do under SR, right enough. 

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4 hours ago, Osvaldorama said:

I would liquidate all of SR’s other clubs and sell all their assets in an instant if it meant saints win one game of football 

I’d do it if it meant Saints scored a goal. 
 

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6 hours ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

I'm enjoying watching VA after dinner on Fridays.

Which is more than any of the VA fans do under SR, right enough. 

For my part, whenever I can watch a Southampton match, I do so. I've activated score alerts for you and also for our friends at Goztepe.

It's always interesting to keep up with the results of other teams in the SR galaxy.

In my opinion, however, this is not something that most of my compatriots do.

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20 hours ago, LoyalSaintSO50 said:

They weren’t, Ronnie Edwards had a shocker and we continue to persist with 3 centre backs cos he doesn’t trust 2 out of the 5 we have. Shambles 

Having a shocker would constitute several errors, which errors did Edwards make?

In the first 20 mins he let their decent Brazilian on the left get the better of him a couple of times but the rest of the match I didn’t see him get beaten hardly at alll

Hows that a shocker?

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On 19/10/2025 at 15:28, AlexLaw76 said:

Their heart is in the multi-club model, and player profit trading.

 

The player trading model likely works in the Championship. Haven't crunched any numbers on it but could it yield higher margins?

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On 19/10/2025 at 08:48, Turkish said:

Can anyone think of any benefits we’ve had from this multi club arrangement? I know we were told there were plenty but anyone got any examples?

It means Rasmus has to spend more time in Turkey than Southampton?

 

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Time the recruitment team at SR sorted out the centre forward issue which has been a major problem since Danny Ings left. The signing of Damion Downs is looking increasingly laughable. Plymouth signed 23 year old Swiss striker Lorent Tolaj from Port Vale for peanuts - even in their poor side he is looking a good signing and we could do worse than trying to prise him away from them in January. He's big, strong and powerful, reasonably quick, knows where the goal is and works his nuts off. He'd have been far more use to us than Downs.

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Told by my Plymouth supporting neighbour  [ I live in Launceston ]  that Tolaj cannot sign for another English club in january,because he has already played for Plymouth and Port Vale this season. He could go abroad though, for the record the Plymouth fans love him as a player. To be honest saintant I do not agree with alot you say,but Tolaj certainly cannot be any worse than the dross we have up front, at this moment in time.

 

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14 minutes ago, Andrew Watson said:

Told by my Plymouth supporting neighbour  [ I live in Launceston ]  that Tolaj cannot sign for another English club in january,because he has already played for Plymouth and Port Vale this season. He could go abroad though, for the record the Plymouth fans love him as a player. To be honest saintant I do not agree with alot you say,but Tolaj certainly cannot be any worse than the dross we have up front, at this moment in time.

 

That's him off to Goztepe then.

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3 hours ago, Andrew Watson said:

Told by my Plymouth supporting neighbour  [ I live in Launceston ]  that Tolaj cannot sign for another English club in january,because he has already played for Plymouth and Port Vale this season. He could go abroad though, for the record the Plymouth fans love him as a player. To be honest saintant I do not agree with alot you say,but Tolaj certainly cannot be any worse than the dross we have up front, at this moment in time.

 

So we could have signed Tolaj from Port Vale for peanuts but our clever recruitment team decided Downs for much more money was the better option. Clearly  no idea what they're doing.

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11 minutes ago, saintant said:

So we could have signed Tolaj from Port Vale for peanuts but our clever recruitment team decided Downs for much more money was the better option. Clearly  no idea what they're doing.

Yep, there are several examples of players similar to Tolaj that we could’ve signed who would have done a job for us at this level for less than the criminal amount we’ve spent on a striker so bad it beggars belief , but unfortunately we have one of the most clueless ownership groups in British football history, so that didn’t happen. 

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This woeful ownership has overseen a year-on-year rot of the club for the sake of gambling on untried youth.

But, we still aren't in too dire straits just yet.

If they were to sell now, a prospective owner would have a good springboard to launch the club back into relevance.

How far will we fall under SR? How difficult will it be to rebuild the club when it finally changes hands?

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So what do we reckon then. How long before these wankers accept they’ve made another mistake, then replace it with another one? I’ll go with 4 more games.

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29 minutes ago, Wiggles31 said:

When oh when can we voice our discontent towards these inept bunch of morons? 

It should have been yesterday, the week before that, the month before that.

They need to GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY CLUB. Have some dignity Dragan and rip it up, sell and walk away - go back and play golf. Rasmus can play with his toys in Turkey, and we can try to recover and stabilise at this level before they do even more damage, because believe me they will put us in L1/L2.

I know it's not as easy as that to get owners out, but as a fan base we cannot continue to be as passive as we are about them. Something big needs to be shown, they need to know that their time is up and we're out of patience. 

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I think it's fair to say this has been another summer of fuck ups, which were all fairly clearly to see.

The mistakes off the top of my head:

1. When the season started we had only signed Joshua Quarshie and Damion Downs. Almost as though how shit we were last season was missed by all those at the club. We needed more than two inexperienced players joining in pre-season and before the season started. A lot of people peddle the line that little old Southampton can't sign players early in the summer, but it's as much of a myth as newly promoted clubs can't stay in the Premier League. Yes, the last two weeks are busier in the window, but every other club at least adds two or three first team players before the season starts.

2. The goalkeeper spot has been a blind spot for years. We finally had a good goalkeeper in Aaron Ramsdale, who we charitably allowed to leave on loan despite Solak claiming Ramsdale loved it here (Solak also said we'd sign an attaker before selling anyone, so who knows). Okay, we may have put ourselves in a tricky situation in a years time if we signed a new permanent goalkeeper with Ramsdale coming back. However, there was absolutely nothing stopping us from signing a new number one on loan to cover the position. Instead, we went for George Long, because he's a good character to have in the dressing room, but has 0 impact on the pitch. What's McCarthy, if he's not good to have around the dressing room, surely that quota was already met? We blindly went into the season with Bazunu as our number one AGAIN.

3. The striker position has also been a blind spot for years. We keep trying to go down the youth route, first Mara, and now Downes and both have been so poorly scouted, they barely resemble footballers. We already had the young striker quota met in the squad here with Ballard, and he's now proving to be better than Downs. What we needed was a senior physical man to lead the line. But, they don't provide any resale value, so we can't retain our net spend trophy.

4. Will Still had a perfectly capable coaching team in France. His record in France, the top flight was good, and that was with his team. It would make sense to not only bring Still here, but his coaching team also. What's Rooney without Rosenior? Shit. What's Paul Ince without Ray Mathias? Shit. Managers have their own team they trust, and not only this, but Still's team were his brothers. Instead, we try to reinvent the wheel and give him an underqualified Lallana, Martin, who has been the constant of the last few years and Paul Trollope, who isn't a big enough name to make up for Still's lack of experience.

5. The Jack Stephens contract. Three years. It took Will Still 6 games to realise Stephens isn't a good enough player. But, apparently he's amazing off the pitch. To that, I say we've been as shit as a football club can be for well over a year now, so what ever his off the pitch incredibleness is, it is having fuck all impact on the pitch, where it matters.

Sure there's more. As I said on Saturday, attendances are now dropping. SR have been lucky it's taken this long, but how shit do we need to become until we start putting pressure on the board? 4 wins in how many games? This wouldn't be accepted at most clubs in the country. I don't know why it is here, we're a reputable club who were comfortable in the Premier League when they came in and now closer to League One than the Premier League.

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Just now, HarvSFC said:

I think it's fair to say this has been another summer of fuck ups, which were all fairly clearly to see.

The mistakes off the top of my head:

1. When the season started we had only signed Joshua Quarshie and Damion Downs. Almost as though how shit we were last season was missed by all those at the club. We needed more than two inexperienced players joining in pre-season and before the season started. A lot of people peddle the line that little old Southampton can't sign players early in the summer, but it's as much of a myth as newly promoted clubs can't stay in the Premier League. Yes, the last two weeks are busier in the window, but every other club at least adds two or three first team players before the season starts.

2. The goalkeeper spot has been a blind spot for years. We finally had a good goalkeeper in Aaron Ramsdale, who we charitably allowed to leave on loan despite Solak claiming Ramsdale loved it here (Solak also said we'd sign an attaker before selling anyone, so who knows). Okay, we may have put ourselves in a tricky situation in a years time if we signed a new permanent goalkeeper with Ramsdale coming back. However, there was absolutely nothing stopping us from signing a new number one on loan to cover the position. Instead, we went for George Long, because he's a good character to have in the dressing room, but has 0 impact on the pitch. What's McCarthy, if he's not good to have around the dressing room, surely that quota was already met? We blindly went into the season with Bazunu as our number one AGAIN.

3. The striker position has also been a blind spot for years. We keep trying to go down the youth route, first Mara, and now Downes and both have been so poorly scouted, they barely resemble footballers. We already had the young striker quota met in the squad here with Ballard, and he's now proving to be better than Downs. What we needed was a senior physical man to lead the line. But, they don't provide any resale value, so we can't retain our net spend trophy.

4. Will Still had a perfectly capable coaching team in France. His record in France, the top flight was good, and that was with his team. It would make sense to not only bring Still here, but his coaching team also. What's Rooney without Rosenior? Shit. What's Paul Ince without Ray Mathias? Shit. Managers have their own team they trust, and not only this, but Still's team were his brothers. Instead, we try to reinvent the wheel and give him an underqualified Lallana, Martin, who has been the constant of the last few years and Paul Trollope, who isn't a big enough name to make up for Still's lack of experience.

5. The Jack Stephens contract. Three years. It took Will Still 6 games to realise Stephens isn't a good enough player. But, apparently he's amazing off the pitch. To that, I say we've been as shit as a football club can be for well over a year now, so what ever his off the pitch incredibleness is, it is having fuck all impact on the pitch, where it matters.

Sure there's more. As I said on Saturday, attendances are now dropping. SR have been lucky it's taken this long, but how shit do we need to become until we start putting pressure on the board? 4 wins in how many games? This wouldn't be accepted at most clubs in the country. I don't know why it is here, we're a reputable club who were comfortable in the Premier League when they came in and now closer to League One than the Premier League.

You missed another bit -

Our annual 'court an unrealistic target all summer, but miss out at the end' shenanigans.

You could see the end of that Eduard story playing out from a mile off. They're so predictable.

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2 hours ago, Wade Garrett said:

Maybe they’ll sack Still to deflect from their own absolute shitness.

I doubt it, unfortunately. They stuck with Nathan Jones and Russel Martin too long, because they didn't want to admit they ballsed up. They probably will do exactly the same with Still. 

Not only are they beyond incompetent with choosing managers, they are equally inept at sacking them as well. 

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Being a Saints fan right now feels like punishment.

Bournemouth flying.

Nathan Jones somehow climbing the table.

Meanwhile… us.

I don’t even know where we go from here.

At the start of the season, I was optimistic, thought maybe Dragan had finally wised up and decided to build some actual football infrastructure.

But here we are.

My thoughts on what’s wrong:

Will Still.

I just don’t rate him. The first pre-season training video I watched, he looked like a deer caught in the headlights. Nervous, uncomfortable, completely on edge.

If I’m sitting there feeling sorry for the bloke, how are the players meant to feel inspired or fired up by him?

And don’t even get me started on the tactics.

The selections are bizarre.

5 at the back coward bullshit. 

Playing Fraser at right-back when we’ve literally got Rørsløv sitting there?

Subs all over the place.

Leaving out Robinson and Matsuki who were two of the few bright sparks in pre-season and against Norwich.

It just doesn’t make sense.

And then there’s the inexperience.

A whole coaching team that looks out of its depth.

You can see it on the touchline no control, no confidence, no plan B.

And don’t even get me started on player signings.

We brought in Downs…

I’m not even going to comment further on that.

What a ridiculous signing.

Sports Republic are trying to be clever — trying to be hip and innovative — but it’s like Groundhog Day.

Same mistakes, different season.

Too many players with weak mentalities.

Too many bottle jobs.

We needed a manager with real experience at this level.

Someone who could’ve steadied the ship, got us solid, and given us something to build on.

But honestly, I’m starting to think Sports Republic will only ever appoint yes-men.

People who won’t challenge the nonsense — just nod along and hope for the best.

Can see us going down and spiralling it really wouldn't suprise me. 

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10 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

Being a Saints fan right now feels like punishment.

Bournemouth flying.

Nathan Jones somehow climbing the table.

Meanwhile… us.

I don’t even know where we go from here.

At the start of the season, I was optimistic, thought maybe Dragan had finally wised up and decided to build some actual football infrastructure.

But here we are.

My thoughts on what’s wrong:

Will Still.

I just don’t rate him. The first pre-season training video I watched, he looked like a deer caught in the headlights. Nervous, uncomfortable, completely on edge.

If I’m sitting there feeling sorry for the bloke, how are the players meant to feel inspired or fired up by him?

And don’t even get me started on the tactics.

The selections are bizarre.

5 at the back coward bullshit. 

Playing Fraser at right-back when we’ve literally got Rørsløv sitting there?

Subs all over the place.

Leaving out Robinson and Matsuki who were two of the few bright sparks in pre-season and against Norwich.

It just doesn’t make sense.

And then there’s the inexperience.

A whole coaching team that looks out of its depth.

You can see it on the touchline no control, no confidence, no plan B.

And don’t even get me started on player signings.

We brought in Downs…

I’m not even going to comment further on that.

What a ridiculous signing.

Sports Republic are trying to be clever — trying to be hip and innovative — but it’s like Groundhog Day.

Same mistakes, different season.

Too many players with weak mentalities.

Too many bottle jobs.

We needed a manager with real experience at this level.

Someone who could’ve steadied the ship, got us solid, and given us something to build on.

But honestly, I’m starting to think Sports Republic will only ever appoint yes-men.

People who won’t challenge the nonsense — just nod along and hope for the best.

Can see us going down and spiralling it really wouldn't suprise me. 

I read earlier we've won 4 out of last 49 league games , it's been a horrible time to be a Saints fan 

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That is a damming statistic and speaks volumes about our current trajectory.

Fucking hell if I was the owner I'd be in that changing room tearing heads off 🤣🤣🤣

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3 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

That is a damming statistic and speaks volumes about our current trajectory.

Fucking hell if I was the owner I'd be in that changing room tearing heads off 🤣🤣🤣

The owner clearly doesn't give a fuck anymore. Either that or he is so fucking useless at running organisations, trusting the absolute twats we have running this club. 

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The problem we have is Solak admits he's not a football person so he has to put his faith into others. These others are spending his money, and we all know how easy it is to spend when its not your own cash.

Solak stated we needed a centre forward and that the money was there. This all sounded very promising. Until of course this hipster Spors decides to spend Dragon's dosh on a 4th rate striker who had scored a few in the German 2nd Division. The proven in the Championship route was once again ignored and if this was the best they could do you might as well have kept Tall Paul who did manage to score in the Premier League eventually and was sold just as we get a manager who likes crosses into the box! You couldnt make this shit up.

I feel sorry for Solak and I do still feel a bit sorry for Will Still. The rest of them, nah, Spors and co. can take a running jump. 

 

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1 minute ago, beatlesaint said:

The problem we have is Solak admits he's not a football person so he has to put his faith into others. These others are spending his money, and we all know how easy it is to spend when its not your own cash.

Solak stated we needed a centre forward and that the money was there. This all sounded very promising. Until of course this hipster Spors decides to spend Dragon's dosh on a 4th rate striker who had scored a few in the German 2nd Division. The proven in the Championship route was once again ignored and if this was the best they could do you might as well have kept Tall Paul who did manage to score in the Premier League eventually.

I feel sorry for Solak and I do still feel a bit sorry for Will Still. The rest of them, nah, Spors and co. can take a running jump. 

 

I don't feel sorry for Solak at all. The buck ultimately stops with him as the supposed owner. He is accountable for this shit as much as Will, Spors and all the other dross that is ruining my club at the moment. How he is a supposed successful business guy I'll never understand 

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47 minutes ago, Football Special said:

I read earlier we've won 4 out of last 49 league games , it's been a horrible time to be a Saints fan 

We are about to equal (if we're lucky) or break Derby's all-time record for the fewest wins in 50 games, which was 5, set in the 2007-08 and 2008-09 seasons. 

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I don’t feel sorry for Solak. You can only get mugged off so many times in the exact same way before it starts to become your fault for not being good enough to run a club successfully 

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There are a number of clubs with worse owners than Solak

Our upcoming opponents, Blackburn, are one example.

All very well shouting for Sports Republic to go but future owners may be even worse, as we had a few.

Perhaps Barry the Briefcase will be back in the frame?

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18 minutes ago, Nordic Saint said:

We are about to equal (if we're lucky) or break Derby's all-time worst record for the fewest wins in 50 games, which was 5, set in the 2007-08 and 2008-09 seasons.


That is fucking awful. Jesus Christ 

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I don't know anyone who likes losing money or spending it unnecessarily, and I think SR would much prefer to see a better return on investment...

Unfortunately, this is not currently the case, and the sporting side is the most difficult to manage because there are parameters that he cannot control...

This is very annoying because the sporting aspect is the most important thing in football. If the pitch works, the rest will work too...

 

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We've gone from struggling but staying up under Gao, to two relegations, five managers, and now four wins in 49 league games under sport republic.

In times gone by there would be a fucking mutiny going on about how they're running the club, but we’ve got too many hipster out of town fans who want to be invited to the next club event so they can plaster their gormless faces on social media so don't want to challenge those who own us.

What we need is more of the nasty old mushes we had back in the Branfoot and Lowe days to put some pressure on the cunts who own us, and an organised attempt to actually let them know that it's not even fucking close to good enough.

But I'm not sure that that's what the modern generation want anymore, they're just happy we have the Northam “wall”, level 1 climbing wall, and £7.20 pints in the fan gulags.

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1 hour ago, spyinthesky said:

There are a number of clubs with worse owners than Solak

Our upcoming opponents, Blackburn, are one example.

All very well shouting for Sports Republic to go but future owners may be even worse, as we had a few.

Perhaps Barry the Briefcase will be back in the frame?

that doesn't make me feel any better.   

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11 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

that doesn't make me feel any better.   

Yeah these sorts of comments don't really hold truth anymore.

It's like saying ''at least we're dying better than those guys''. It's the same process. The ownership is killing us in the same way the ownership at Blackburn or Wednesday is killing them.

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1 hour ago, spyinthesky said:

There are a number of clubs with worse owners than Solak

Our upcoming opponents, Blackburn, are one example.

All very well shouting for Sports Republic to go but future owners may be even worse, as we had a few.

Perhaps Barry the Briefcase will be back in the frame?

You'd be very hard pressed to select future owners who proved worse than Sport Republic - unless you let Martin Semmens make the decision of course.

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1 hour ago, ChristopheVAFC said:

I don't know anyone who likes losing money or spending it unnecessarily, and I think SR would much prefer to see a better return on investment...

Unfortunately, this is not currently the case, and the sporting side is the most difficult to manage because there are parameters that he cannot control...

This is very annoying because the sporting aspect is the most important thing in football. If the pitch works, the rest will work too...

 

Clearly SR is working in the wrong industry. Running a football club is not for them - they prove it more and more with each passing day. If they don't like losing money then it's high time they cut their losses and tried something more fitting to their combined skill set. They'd certainly be doing our fan base a massive favour.

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Now seems the perfect time to release some 3d renders of an expanded St Mary's including a monkey chicken petting zoo and a new stadium for the women's team that's bigger than the ground for the men's team.

WE MARCH TOWARDS INFRASTRUCTURE!

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