Coronavirus

[CB Fry]

 

[Wes Tender]

They're at it again. AOL news headlines, "State overwhelmed as Covid soars". Click to read it and they're talking about Texas. How easy would it be to have said "Texas overwhelmed as Covid soars", but that wouldn't suit the agenda.

[Whitey Grandad]

16 minutes ago, Wes Tender said:

They're at it again. AOL news headlines, "State overwhelmed as Covid soars". Click to read it and they're talking about Texas. How easy would it be to have said "Texas overwhelmed as Covid soars", but that wouldn't suit the agenda.

But then you wouldn’t have clicked on it.

[Wes Tender]

27 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

But then you wouldn’t have clicked on it.

Yes, I agree that was the purpose, as well as their left wing agenda of making those who didn't click it believe that the headline referred to the UK. I said as much on the last occasion a few days ago. This practice is becoming really tiresome and the net result will be that people just stop clicking those links because they are fed up with being conned. I only clicked it today to ascertain exactly which state/country other than the UK they were referring to this time. 

[CB Fry]

Why would anyone be reading AOL news.

Is Les still on MySpace?

[Wes Tender]

Myspace? What's that?

[CB Fry]

24 minutes ago, Wes Tender said:

Myspace? What's that?

It's got a left wing agenda that makes AOL News look like the BNP.

[Wes Tender]

10 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

It's got a left wing agenda that makes AOL News look like the BNP.

Oh, right. I'd not come across it before. I don't go to AOL for the news, my email is with them, so sometimes I glance at their headlines as a matter of passing curiosity, as I don't bother with BBC/ITV news any longer and most newspapers online are behind a pay wall. I believe that the news on AOL is Huffington Post, which is pretty left agenda ridden. Naturally one has come to recognise the bias from each different news source, and add various levels of scepticism accordingly.

[shurlock]

4 minutes ago, Wes Tender said:

Oh, right. I'd not come across it before. I don't go to AOL for the news, my email is with them, so sometimes I glance at their headlines as a matter of passing curiosity, as I don't bother with BBC/ITV news any longer and most newspapers online are behind a pay wall. I believe that the news on AOL is Huffington Post, which is pretty left agenda ridden. Naturally one has come to recognise the bias from each different news source, and add various levels of scepticism accordingly.

What kind of scepticism do you add to politicalite articles?

Edited 9 July, 2020 by shurlock

[RedArmy]

2 hours ago, Wes Tender said:

They're at it again. AOL news headlines, "State overwhelmed as Covid soars". Click to read it and they're talking about Texas. How easy would it be to have said "Texas overwhelmed as Covid soars", but that wouldn't suit the agenda.

Is Texas not a state? 🤷🏻‍♂️ That’s click bait not scare mongering anyway you paranoid fool. 

[Wes Tender]

Just now, shurlock said:

What kind of scepticism do you add to politicalite articles you recycle here?

I'm just like you; you apply your own level of scepticism to articles that question your political leftie stance, and I do so to the views on the other side of the political spectrum.

Typically of you, the rather arrogant implication is that articles you highlight on here are the ones written by the political heavyweights, whereas the ones I highlight aren't. It suggests that you hold the mistaken believe that the more academically qualified someone is, the more likely they are to be right in their political views.

I thought therefore that this might help disabuse you of that impression.

 

[Wes Tender]

3 minutes ago, RedArmy said:

Is Texas not a state? 🤷🏻‍♂️ That’s click bait not scare mongering anyway you paranoid fool. 

Yes, of course Texas is a state, but so also is the UK referred to a state when it comes to referring to "state spending" for example. A pity that didn't occur to you.

[RedArmy]

23 minutes ago, Wes Tender said:

Yes, of course Texas is a state, but so also is the UK referred to a state when it comes to referring to "state spending" for example. A pity that didn't occur to you.

Only a thicko would think that an American news source would use the word ‘state’ and be talking about a country. 

 

 

[CB Fry]

14 minutes ago, RedArmy said:

Only a thicko would think that an American news source would use the word ‘state’ and be talking about a country. 

 

 

We are supposed to believe that Les read the headline "State overwhelmed as Covid soars" and his immediate thought was

a) by "state" they meant the UK even though no UK based report would ever use that word in that way on a primary headline like that (UK, Britain, etc)

and

b) AOL are pretending that the UK is overwhelmed by Covid in July 9th as part of a left wing plot to destabilise the government or something.

Just to recap, it's AOL News.

For someone who likes to accuse other people of "wetting themselves" just because they post a link to an opinion poll this is absolutely deranged.

It's wonderful stuff.

Edited 9 July, 2020 by CB Fry

[aintforever]

1 hour ago, Wes Tender said:

Yes, of course Texas is a state, but so also is the UK referred to a state when it comes to referring to "state spending" for example. A pity that didn't occur to you.

Wow. You should get help for your paranoia.

[ecuk268]

After their fulsome praise of the NHS the Tories seems now set to reward them by making them pay for parking at work.

However, this should soften the blow:

https://newsthump.com/2020/07/09/government-announces-new-parking-meters-will-clap-for-nhs-staff-while-charging-them-10-to-park-their-cars-at-work/

[Wes Tender]

*Yawn* Did you lot enjoy the video?

1 hour ago, CB Fry said:

We are supposed to believe that Les read the headline "State overwhelmed as Covid soars" and his immediate thought was

a) by "state" they meant the UK even though no UK based report would ever use that word in that way on a primary headline like that (UK, Britain, etc)

and

b) AOL are pretending that the UK is overwhelmed by Covid in July 9th as part of a left wing plot to destabilise the government or something.

Just to recap, it's AOL News.

For someone who likes to accuse other people of "wetting themselves" just because they post a link to an opinion poll this is absolutely deranged.

It's wonderful stuff.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/analysis-and-features/...

Oh dear, it appears that the Not Independent has made the crass error of referring to "state spending" when they should have realised that should only apply to USA states, according to the intelligentsia of the Saints Forum.

And do please read what I said originally. I didn't immediately jump to the conclusion that the article referred to the UK; I suspected that it was another attempt to mislead people into thinking it did.

Edited 9 July, 2020 by Wes Tender

[CB Fry]

6 minutes ago, Wes Tender said:

*Yawn* Did you lot enjoy the video?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/analysis-and-features/...

 

If it's not on the Freeserve homepage I won't read it mate.

[RedArmy]

12 minutes ago, Wes Tender said:

 

Oh dear, it appears that the Not Independent has made the crass error of referring to "state spending" when they should have realised that should only apply to USA states, according to the intelligentsia of the Saints Forum.

 

Nobody has said that. The difference between the use of the word state in a headline like the one you quoted and the use of phrases such as state spending, state sponsored, state pension, head of state etc should be obvious to anyone with a brain. It’s embarrassing that you need that explained to you more than once. 
 

Mike Pompeo is the US Secretary of State, but which state? Must be a conspiracy, what is he hiding? 

[CB Fry]

40 minutes ago, Wes Tender said:

 

And do please read what I said originally. I didn't immediately jump to the conclusion that the article referred to the UK; I suspected that it was another attempt to mislead people into thinking it did.

So you didn't think it meant the UK but assumed people even more dumb than you would. Okay.

It's a shame you think so little of the people of this State.

[hypochondriac]

14 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

So you didn't think it meant the UK but assumed people even more dumb than you would. Okay.

It's a shame you think so little of the people of this State.

Which state? Texas? 

[Lord Duckhunter]

Reminds me of Dell boy when facing  a question on The Gold Rush quiz Show.
 

Q: “What state was jfk in when he was shot”. 
 

A: “A hell of a state  “. 
 

 

[Wes Tender]

3 hours ago, RedArmy said:

Only a thicko would think that an American news source would use the word ‘state’ and be talking about a country. 

 

 

So when in the earlier report they used the same tactic by mentioning "Country", of course as an American news source, they meant America, didn't they? Only a thicko would think otherwise. Well, actually the country was Columbia. 🙄 

[shurlock]

4 hours ago, Wes Tender said:

I'm just like you; you apply your own level of scepticism to articles that question your political leftie stance, and I do so to the views on the other side of the political spectrum.

Typically of you, the rather arrogant implication is that articles you highlight on here are the ones written by the political heavyweights, whereas the ones I highlight aren't. It suggests that you hold the mistaken believe that the more academically qualified someone is, the more likely they are to be right in their political views.

I thought therefore that this might help disabuse you of that impression.

 

 You're in even greater need of help and intervention pal if you think the only difference between the articles I post and something like politicalite are the formal qualifications of the respective authors.

Edited 9 July, 2020 by shurlock

[CB Fry]

1 hour ago, Wes Tender said:

So when in the earlier report they used the same tactic by mentioning "Country", of course as an American news source, they meant America, didn't they? Only a thicko would think otherwise. Well, actually the country was Columbia. 🙄 

One day soon Queen Sonja of Norway will die. She's 83 so it could be soon.

On that sad day AOL News will put a story up, seventh on the bill just underneath the football results: "COUNTRY MOURNS AS QUEEN DIES"

Les will be half through putting his fourth set of union jack bunting round his garage door before his  politely bemused neighbours point out his mistake.

 

Edited 9 July, 2020 by CB Fry

[Wes Tender]

1 hour ago, shurlock said:

 You're in even greater need of help and intervention pal if you think the only difference between the articles I post and something like politicalite are the formal qualifications of the respective authors.

Typical response from you, Gavyn. You seem to have missed the second part of the argument, where I said that regardless of whether they were your assumed political heavyweights or what you implied my sources were, politicalite (whatever that is) doesn't necessarily mean that they are right about everything, does it? Especially regarding political matters, where people's beliefs are so varied, and who is the arbiter of what is right or wrong about them?

In need of help and intervention? What did you have in mind? The thought police?  I'm afraid that I'm a bit long in the tooth for re-indoctrination, (as are you, of course.)

[Wes Tender]

2 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

One day soon Queen Sonja of Norway will die. She's 83 so it could be soon.

On that sad day AOL News will put a story up, seventh on the bill just underneath the football results: "COUNTRY MOURNS AS QUEEN DIES"

Les will be half through putting his fourth set of union jack bunting round his garage door before his  politely bemused neighbours point out his mistake.

 

All that would be required for clarity, is for them to headline it "Queen Sonja dies". Simple really. 

Otherwise, I expect that the newsflashes all over the place will make it far clearer than Huffington Post, who might even feature a photo of which Queen they were referring to if it was ours.

[Weston Super Saint]

9 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

One day soon Queen Sonja of Norway will die. She's 83 so it could be soon.

On that sad day AOL News will put a story up, seventh on the bill just underneath the football results: "COUNTRY MOURNS AS QUEEN DIES"

Les will be half through putting his fourth set of union jack bunting round his garage door before his  politely bemused neighbours point out his mistake.

 

To be fair, Lizzie is 94 so statistically she is far more likely to pop her clogs than the Norwegian bird.

[aintforever]

So the clowns in charge are finally realising that wearing face coverings is a good idea.

Months behind everyone else as usual.

[badgerx16]

On 12/07/2020 at 09:50, aintforever said:

So the clowns in charge are finally realising that wearing face coverings is a good idea.

Months behind everyone else as usual.

Well, Boris says so, Michael Gove on the other hand disagrees. Yet another example of the unity and clarity of purpose of the Cabinet

[badgerx16]

So now masks will be compulsory in shops from July 24th. Is that when the second spike starts ?

[Tamesaint]

11 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

So now masks will be compulsory in shops from July 24th. Is that when the second spike starts ?

Yes. We are alright until then. Its a well known fact that covid gets more virulent on the 24 th of July. Until then no need to mask up.

[LGTL]

On 09/07/2020 at 16:54, Wes Tender said:

All that would be required for clarity, is for them to headline it "Queen Sonja dies". Simple really. 

Otherwise, I expect that the newsflashes all over the place will make it far clearer than Huffington Post, who might even feature a photo of which Queen they were referring to if it was ours.

Not sure if it’s been pointed out to you, but AOL literally stands for ‘America Online’.

[Wes Tender]

1 hour ago, LGTL said:

Not sure if it’s been pointed out to you, but AOL literally stands for ‘America Online’.

You took your time getting there, didn't you? Yes, I've known that since I began using them for my personal email provider. But as you probably know, the news items that feature on their UK site are there for the interest of the UK market. Or did you think that the news items for here are the same as they are for the USA?

[Kingsland Codger]

On 09/07/2020 at 16:47, CB Fry said:

One day soon Queen Sonja of Norway will die. She's 83 so it could be soon.

On that sad day AOL News will put a story up, seventh on the bill just underneath the football results: "COUNTRY MOURNS AS QUEEN DIES"

Les will be half through putting his fourth set of union jack bunting round his garage door before his  politely bemused neighbours point out his mistake.

 

Gerry Queen was sent off for fighting in a match at Selhurst Park. The newspaper headline was 

[Weston Super Saint]

8 minutes ago, Kingsland Codger said:

Gerry Queen was sent off for fighting in a match at Selhurst Park. The newspaper headline was 

..."Queen lost head"??

[RedArmy]

15 hours ago, Wes Tender said:

You took your time getting there, didn't you? Yes, I've known that since I began using them for my personal email provider. But as you probably know, the news items that feature on their UK site are there for the interest of the UK market. Or did you think that the news items for here are the same as they are for the USA?

I just had a bank statement through the post, no mention of which country though. Most confusing. 

[The Cat]

PPE government contracts given out to companies run by their mates without any procurement.

Reported in the guardian and telegraph for balance. 

It's stuff like this that really grips my shit. 

[badgerx16]

Here's the Guardian article

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jul/15/coronavirus-contracts-government-transparency-pandemic

"..........

There are plenty of other cases: such as the employment agency with net assets of £623 that was awarded an £18m government contract to supply face masks; the confectionery wholesaler that according to the GLP was given a £100m contract to supply PPE; and the £250m channelled through a “family office” registered in Mauritius, specialising in currency trading, offshore property and private equity, also to supply protective medical equipment. Altogether, billions of pounds’ worth of contracts appear to have been granted, often to surprising companies, without competition. I think we may reasonably ask what the hell is going on.

.........."

Edited 15 July, 2020 by badgerx16

[Wes Tender]

1 hour ago, RedArmy said:

I just had a bank statement through the post, no mention of which country though. Most confusing. 

You're obviously easily confused

[Kingsland Codger]

4 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

..."Queen lost head"??

The headline was ... QUEEN IN BRAWL AT PALACE

[Born In The 80s]

On 12/07/2020 at 09:50, aintforever said:

So the clowns in charge are finally realising that wearing face coverings is a good idea.

Months behind everyone else as usual.

To be fair to the government, our scientists have spend months deliberating masks and have only just made their minds up that they are effective. I remember watching a daily briefing a few months back and one of the doctors said that masks aren't necessary. Meanwhile, in places like Taiwan, who have handled the crisis superbly, they were wearing them from day one. However, it's foolishly to pretend that our failure is all down to the government; the Scientists and NHS leaders have played a big part in it too. 

I must say, I'm pretty baffled that anyone would have a huge issue with wearing a face mask at Tescos for for 45 minutes on their weekly shop. Listening to the radio, many people are whinging about it making fools of themselves (most of whom deny that Covid is even a thing!). We really are a nation of complainers. Even if it makes a small difference in protecting shop assistants and bus drivers, I'm confused why anyone wouldn't be on board with it.  

 

[whelk]

Snarled up roads for cycle lanes, one way systems and slow service in pubs and shops and made to wear a face mask for all shops soon. Fck me this let get the economy going ain’t going to work. I can’t be arsed to be spending my money by going out as much. That is not due to any fear of virus either. Shame I’ve watched most of the decent programmes on Netflix and poor kids looking for work - going to be absolutely fck all for them.

[Whitey Grandad]

1 hour ago, Born In The 80s said:

To be fair to the government, our scientists have spend months deliberating masks and have only just made their minds up that they are effective. I remember watching a daily briefing a few months back and one of the doctors said that masks aren't necessary. Meanwhile, in places like Taiwan, who have handled the crisis superbly, they were wearing them from day one. However, it's foolishly to pretend that our failure is all down to the government; the Scientists and NHS leaders have played a big part in it too. 

I must say, I'm pretty baffled that anyone would have a huge issue with wearing a face mask at Tescos for for 45 minutes on their weekly shop. Listening to the radio, many people are whinging about it making fools of themselves (most of whom deny that Covid is even a thing!). We really are a nation of complainers. Even if it makes a small difference in protecting shop assistants and bus drivers, I'm confused why anyone wouldn't be on board with it.  

 

I know of people who wouldn’t wear them in case they deprived the Holy NHS of desperately needed equipment.

[aintforever]

4 hours ago, Born In The 80s said:

To be fair to the government, our scientists have spend months deliberating masks and have only just made their minds up that they are effective. I remember watching a daily briefing a few months back and one of the doctors said that masks aren't necessary. Meanwhile, in places like Taiwan, who have handled the crisis superbly, they were wearing them from day one. However, it's foolishly to pretend that our failure is all down to the government; the Scientists and NHS leaders have played a big part in it too. 

I must say, I'm pretty baffled that anyone would have a huge issue with wearing a face mask at Tescos for for 45 minutes on their weekly shop. Listening to the radio, many people are whinging about it making fools of themselves (most of whom deny that Covid is even a thing!). We really are a nation of complainers. Even if it makes a small difference in protecting shop assistants and bus drivers, I'm confused why anyone wouldn't be on board with it.  

 

It would be interesting to know what science has suddenly changed on this, if it has at all. The government seem to pick and choose what science suits them sometimes. The way some Tories have pissed their pants over making them compulsory makes you wonder if they have been ignoring the science rather than be guided by it.

You just have to look at the death rates in places like Japan and South Korea to know that they are a good idea.

[trousers]

Isn't this a bonkers skewing of the stats if this is true?

https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/why-no-one-can-ever-recover-from-covid-19-in-england-a-statistical-anomaly/

"it seems that PHE regularly looks for people on the NHS database who have ever tested positive, and simply checks to see if they are still alive or not. PHE does not appear to consider how long ago the COVID test result was, nor whether the person has been successfully treated in hospital and discharged to the community. Anyone who has tested COVID positive but subsequently died at a later date of any cause will be included on the PHE COVID death figures.

By this PHE definition, no one with COVID in England is allowed to ever recover from their illness. A patient who has tested positive, but successfully treated and discharged from hospital, will still be counted as a COVID death even if they had a heart attack or were run over by a bus three months later."

Edited 16 July, 2020 by trousers

[trousers]

[badgerx16]

Tens of thousands of mink on a Spanish fur farm are to be culled after testing positive for CoViD, this follows a similar incident in The Netherlands.

[trousers]

20 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Tens of thousands of mink on a Spanish fur farm are to be culled after testing positive for CoViD, this follows a similar incident in The Netherlands.

[Lord Duckhunter]

On 17/07/2020 at 09:37, trousers said:

This is scandalous. Firstly, that PHE are actually counting deaths like this and secondly, that Hancock didn’t know. 
 

I’m sure there’s plenty more stuff like this, whether it comes out will depend on the nature of the enquiry & it’s remit. I’d imagine the establishment will be preparing for the whitewash variety .