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Osvaldorama

Osvaldorama

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2 minutes ago, gio1saints said:

He did it once with SFC a few years ago I recall. Gave them there all time unbeaten record and got them promoted via the playoffs after an iffy start. 

It’s all been a disaster thereafter . He’s got his iffy start with Foxes. He’s probably got 5 matches to go unbeaten and pick up say 10 points or I reckon even the absentee and broke bosses of LCFC will further augment his retirement pension fund very nicely thank you. 
 

I hope he does it. The more vilified he is the more I want him to do well. Go Russell!!


Good to hear from you Russ 

 

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Turkish

Turkish

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18 minutes ago, gio1saints said:

He did it once with SFC a few years ago I recall. Gave them there all time unbeaten record and got them promoted via the playoffs after an iffy start. 

It’s all been a disaster thereafter . He’s got his iffy start with Foxes. He’s probably got 5 matches to go unbeaten and pick up say 10 points or I reckon even the absentee and broke bosses of LCFC will further augment his retirement pension fund very nicely thank you. 
 

I hope he does it. The more vilified he is the more I want him to do well. Go Russell!!

Have you still got that pink bandana with the animals on?

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Holmes_and_Watson

Holmes_and_Watson

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14 hours ago, gio1saints said:

He did it once with SFC a few years ago I recall. Gave them there all time unbeaten record and got them promoted via the playoffs after an iffy start. 

It’s all been a disaster thereafter . He’s got his iffy start with Foxes. He’s probably got 5 matches to go unbeaten and pick up say 10 points or I reckon even the absentee and broke bosses of LCFC will further augment his retirement pension fund very nicely thank you. 
 

I hope he does it. The more vilified he is the more I want him to do well. Go Russell!!

He did indeed get us promoted, and did give us that record. 

Just letting that sentence stand by itself. As you say, it's been a disaster since. And there were plenty of counter points, even during the promotion and getting that record.

I also enjoyed his system when it worked. Against certain opposition, playing a certain way. And if he has certain players, able to play within his structure, but also pushing against it enough to make their individual talent make a difference. And those players really have to be the best in their league.

He'd been at Rangers. He knew what to expect from the fans. But you can see why he went. Their new investment would allow him to shape a squad into his system. It was a budget well above anyone else's. He could have the best players in the league. Rangers wanted his system to get progress in Europe. It's a good fit there.

What he wasn't prepared for was: that his budget was needed for a whole squad; plenty of teams set up just to counter old firm opposition, happy to give him possession; competitions underway while they were still bringing players in.

Those early European games gave a glimpse. A resetting approach to every move, allowing a team to counter better opposition. Until Brugges who, like all the PL teams we faced under him, showed that there were limits to what his squads could cope against. When it falls apart, there's no other options.

Leicester are going to the administration wall. Needing to get out of their division and getting a deluded new owner willing to pick up their debt and obligations. Martin may have some good players left. But it's disjointed, based on who they can move on. In there, he's trying to put in his plans to a squad and fanbase who want to see anything else.

We had a wretched September under him. Before that, when the likes of JWP were leaving, I thought we'd be fine. We got points, even if it wasn't the best. September was his system kicking in. October onwards was him having to adjust. Something he's going to have to learn yet again.

He's not so much vilified as he's a parody figure in charge of important parts of people's lives: their clubs. His approach of rather losing to progress his project isn't a good fit for any club.

 

 

 

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RedArmy

RedArmy

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3 hours ago, Football Special said:

He does crack me up, I need to be more like him in my job. 

He’s the David Brent of football. 

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Sarnia Cherie

Sarnia Cherie

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Oxford 4 now. If there is an example of someone stealing a living it must surely be Russell Martin. He 'manages' a club almost into oblivion, gets the push and a few £m in the back pocket for his trouble then rinse and repeat. 

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Gloucester Saint

Gloucester Saint

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Just now, LiberalCommunist said:

He might not survive this. And that seems a crazy thing to say. 

Natives are fuming. You'd have to be brave to turn up again tomorrow. 

But ‘Brave’ is his speciality. If you define it as a slow passing pattern of 100 moves between the keeper and defenders. 

Wouldn’t put it past SR to re-appoint him once the FA do Solak’s job for him. SR are just as dopey as Rudkin and do.

beatlesaint

beatlesaint

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2 minutes ago, RedArmy said:

We’ve seen this one before. 
 

This is the week the fans and the players get the blame. 

There hasn’t been sarcastic cheering from the home fans has there? 🤣

sfc4prem

sfc4prem

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3 minutes ago, RedArmy said:

We’ve seen this one before. 
 

This is the week the fans and the players get the blame. 

You reckon! I love that bit. My favourite bit of the film i reckon. Watched it a couple of times before.

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Lord Duckhunter

Lord Duckhunter

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I'm disappointed we don't win,because we deserved to. It was
the best performance we've had. The only thing we're missing is 5 goals and if we scored 5 , I think everyone goes away thinking it's an amazingperformance.

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Saint Keef

Saint Keef

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Here follows, my detailed match report. Leicester City 0 Oxford United 4  🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Brave!  Think I might go over to their chats for a few minutes.

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Nordic Saint

Nordic Saint

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33 minutes ago, RedArmy said:

We’ve seen this one before. 
 

This is the week the fans and the players get the blame. 

Well, having Alex McCarthy in goal certainly won't have helped. But, Russell Martin is the one who took him there.

Stripey McStripe Shirt

Stripey McStripe Shirt

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Just now, Nordic Saint said:

Well, having Alex McCarthy in goal certainly won't have helped. But, Russell Martin is the one who took him there.

Only just seen he was a starter for them. Is that a regular thing. Assumed he was signed as no. 2?

Nordic Saint

Nordic Saint

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Just now, Stripey McStripe Shirt said:

Only just seen he was a starter for them. Is that a regular thing. Assumed he was signed as no. 2?

Stolarczyk, their first choice goalkeeper, got badly injured in their last game.

Gloucester Saint

Gloucester Saint

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7 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Thank goodness for Martin. After a shit saints result it always nice to be pepped up by his shitness.

It amazes me how Martin can keep getting management jobs/contracts and Ross Stewart three year playing contracts. 

Fair play in many ways to them and their agents in many ways for being able to blag it. 

It’s as if there aren’t newspapers or internet, and club boards have never come across their reputations and injury records. 

Midfield_General

Midfield_General

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6 minutes ago, Stripey McStripe Shirt said:

Only just seen he was a starter for them. Is that a regular thing. Assumed he was signed as no. 2?

Got taken there by Russ, went straight into the team as no. 1, was shit, got dropped, got put back in for today due to an injury and shipped four at home to fucking Oxford 

Marvellous stuff

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hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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3 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

It amazes me how Martin can keep getting management jobs/contracts and Ross Stewart three year playing contracts. 

Fair play in many ways to them and their agents in many ways for being able to blag it. 

It’s as if there aren’t newspapers or internet, and club boards have never come across their reputations and injury records. 

He dresses and speaks well, has had a modicum of success and a 'philosophy' so can impress people who are easily impressed.

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stknowle

stknowle

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2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

He dresses and speaks well, has had a modicum of success and a 'philosophy' so can impress people who are easily impressed.

Indeed. In every industry you get people whose main/only skill is their ability to bullshit convincingly in order to secure employment before being rapidly found out and sacked. Russel Martin is one such individual.

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beatlesaint

beatlesaint

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This was on X - 

Being at two clubs managed by Claude Puel and being less popular than him at both is quite an achievement 

Well done Russell Martin

😂😂😂

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TheSoundman

TheSoundman

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Why do some posters tell other posters they shouldn't be interested in a subject and they should move on.

There's an outside argument that this thread shouldn't be in the Saints section anymore, but I love reading about Lego Head's F-Ups, and will keep doing so until he stops providing the material.

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Stu Man Do

Stu Man Do

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1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Wonder if Jug Ears still feels the same…..

 

 

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You get what you deserve! Remember him fawning over Russell in an interview which was no doubt part of his “rehabilitation “ tour before getting jobs again.

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Holmes_and_Watson

Holmes_and_Watson

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I'd better watch one of their games while I have the chance.

The possession stat is there. But what is it that the players are letting Russ down on? Are they still at the lots of passes, but no transition stage? Is the scar tissue, preventing them from being brave enough to embrace the system?

Do they now lack the individuals capable of making the basics work - Baz keeper, Downes picking it up from defence, Smallbone as versatile link-up player, AA able to cleverly get goals from wide, or be on the end of cut backs? 

After us, and Rangers, I was thinking he'd be able to get a spine of of players with those attributes. Just as a starter. Both Rangers and Leicester have required overhauls. Perhaps that's left him without that spine, where he was fortunate to have it still there with us.

Part of his pitch is to transform a team, with automations. But he still needs other attributes in there. It's one of the disconnects from his pitch (getting the best out of what's there) to reality (getting in players who capable of building on his approach)

As they they look out at their 5 star hotel and training complex, they have to buy in to being more a hard working  Martin's MK Dons, than fallen PL super stars.

17th with a single win. The deliverable will be promotion. Let's see if the board back him. They will be there for a while at the price they've asked for the club. But when that promotion becomes impossible, experts were saying that administration, at least, is imminent. Everyone there will be well aware of that.

Edit: Watch the 4:23min highlights.
For three of them, got caught playing too high a line. They've not learned that racing back is a focused thing, to block and push players where Martin wants them. Instead, the full backs allow balls in for relatively easy finishes, against centre halves who are not keeping pace with the attack.

The fourth had plenty of defenders around it. None of them forced a decision, allowing Oxford to pass through them and score. 

What we've seen before. Players working on part of a system, leave massive gaps, because they can't/won't do the rest.

And that can be the coaching too. Poor Holgate was under orders on what to do, making his appearances a horror show. He'd have angered Russ, hoofing it, but wouldn't have conceded 2 goals.

 

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Holmes_and_Watson

Holmes_and_Watson

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17 minutes ago, TheSoundman said:

Why do some posters tell other posters they shouldn't be interested in a subject and they should move on.

There's an outside argument that this thread shouldn't be in the Saints section anymore, but I love reading about Lego Head's F-Ups, and will keep doing so until he stops providing the material.

The thread is also doubling as the Alex McCarthy: Sweeper Keeper thread.

inspectorfrost

inspectorfrost

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1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Wonder if Jug Ears still feels the same…..

 

 

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He was right, for the comedy value.

Have the opposing fans started cheering every time Leicester get a goal kick yet?

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