Flynn Downes

[saintant]

2 minutes ago, RedArmy said:

The transfer that he’s clearly wanted since Martin left. 

So why not play well in every game? Surely that gives him more chance of attracting interest than playing well in the odd game of his choosing.

[saintwbu]

32 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

And sideways & backwards Downes doesn’t? 
 

Incredibly harsh on Charles who had done ok this season, to be left out for a bloke who has only turned up in one game. People are forgetting quite how bad Downes has been before yesterday. 

Downes wasn’t playing in by far our worst performance of the season last Saturday, but Charles was. All season last time round in the Championship people were saying how great Charles was but the results when he played weren’t a coincidence. If he could sit behind two attacking CM’s and just do the dirty work he’d probably be decent, but he is not quick enough up top to play in this team yet imo. 

[AlexLaw76]

Let's see who performs against a low block at the weekend.

[Zorba]

35 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Let's see who performs against a low block at the weekend.

🤮

[Osvaldorama]

Thought he was much improved and very good last night. Fair play 

[Lord Duckhunter]

3 hours ago, saintant said:

So why not play well in every game? Surely that gives him more chance of attracting interest than playing well in the odd game of his choosing.

Players have to put it in during certain games, otherwise they’ll get done 6 or 7. How did we draw with Manchester City, by playing as well as we did every other  week 😂😂. You don’t half come out with some old pony. We lost 9-0 to Leicester, then put in a decent performance at City. It’s well known, players up their game on big occasions, it’s why we have cup shocks. If you think Downes put as much effort in during other games this season, you’re deluded. 

[saintant]

18 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Players have to put it in during certain games, otherwise they’ll get done 6 or 7. How did we draw with Manchester City, by playing as well as we did every other  week 😂😂. You don’t half come out with some old pony. We lost 9-0 to Leicester, then put in a decent performance at City. It’s well known, players up their game on big occasions, it’s why we have cup shocks. If you think Downes put as much effort in during other games this season, you’re deluded. 

Pony is your middle name 🙂

[benali-shorts]

Odd that he has had such limited involvement? He's obviously a bit of a cunt, but asking a lot of Jander and Charles to play so much football. 

[benjii]

Just now, benali-shorts said:

Odd that he has had such limited involvement? He's obviously a bit of a cunt, but asking a lot of Jander and Charles to play so much football. 

Maybe he could slot in as a 4th CB?

[S-Clarke]

2 minutes ago, benali-shorts said:

Odd that he has had such limited involvement? He's obviously a bit of a cunt, but asking a lot of Jander and Charles to play so much football. 

Should have sold him in the summer really, we don't need his type. We need a powerful CM who can come in and disrupt things, not another sideways man. 

Jander/Charles can do his role - we need power alongside those.

[OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint]

On 21/10/2025 at 22:34, S-Clarke said:

Should have sold him in the summer really, we don't need his type. We need a powerful CM who can come in and disrupt things, not another sideways man. 

Jander/Charles can do his role - we need power alongside those.

I have only dredged this thread up because I am curious at to what is really happening with this lad. Last time in the Championship, he was one of, if not the stand out players. Can't believe he's in a huff just because his old manager friend is no longer with us.

With Charles injured, surely we can bring this guy back in to the fold. He is a sideways man but that's a frame of mind which can be changed and he got himself around the pitch a lot before.

[disconnect]

1 hour ago, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said:

I have only dredged this thread up because I am curious at to what is really happening with this lad. Last time in the Championship, he was one of, if not the stand out players. Can't believe he's in a huff just because his old manager friend is no longer with us.

With Charles injured, surely we can bring this guy back in to the fold. He is a sideways man but that's a frame of mind which can be changed and he got himself around the pitch a lot before.

He's a good player when he wants to be (i.e. when his mate is constantly bigging him up), but is quite clearly disruptive in the dressing room. Wouldn't matter so much if he played to the best of his abilities and starting dominating the midfield, but we haven't seen that for a long time. I expect he will play against Preston, but needs to have a bit of a think about what he wants doing with his career and actually put some effort in, work in a team environment and play to win matches of football. 

[skintsaint]

5 minutes ago, disconnect said:

I expect he will play against Preston

Sounds like he will be missing as a knock to the knee.

[S-Clarke]

Of course he's not ill now, but he's got a knock to the knee.

Honestly can we just sack this guy off.

[Sir Ralph]

2 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Of course he's not ill now, but he's got a knock to the knee.

Honestly can we just sack this guy off.

From what I can deduce he may not be the most mentally stable player which explains a lot about his absences for unusual reasons

[Dman]

30 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Of course he's not ill now, but he's got a knock to the knee.

Honestly can we just sack this guy off.

We have to find a buyer. We paid a decent whack for him which means we're going to have to lose a decent whack on him. 

[OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint]

38 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

From what I can deduce he may not be the most mentally stable player which explains a lot about his absences for unusual reasons

This makes a lot of sense. Some players need more closely 'managing' than others and similarly there will be those where everything's like water off a duck's back and others that get affected by criticism and need bigging up. 

Of course, it could also be that he's a disruptive influence and wants out.

[Toussaint]

43 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said:

From what I can deduce he may not be the most mentally stable player which explains a lot about his absences for unusual reasons

When you say "deduce" do you mean a conclusion you have come to or something you have heard? 

[Willo of Whiteley]

Should’ve been sold in the summer. Or frozen out.

Good player on his day but he clearly doesn’t want to be here

[Give it to Ron]

When teams are going well and flying not many want to miss games and play through niggles.

When teams are down the lower end and need to battle some look for any excusE not to play - seen that every level I have played no different at Saints.

[egg]

1 hour ago, Sir Ralph said:

From what I can deduce he may not be the most mentally stable player which explains a lot about his absences for unusual reasons

Is that something you've been told, or concluded? 

 

 

[Harry_SFC]

2 hours ago, Sir Ralph said:

From what I can deduce he may not be the most mentally stable player which explains a lot about his absences for unusual reasons

You've got to have a problem if you're shouting "irons" at a Southampton promotion party. 

[West end Saints]

13 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

You've got to have a problem if you're shouting "irons" at a Southampton promotion party. 

When Fernandes, JWP  and KWP manage to relegate west ham ,he maybe a decent championship player for them

[Toussaint]

52 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

You've got to have a problem if you're shouting "irons" at a Southampton promotion party. 

Did he actually do that? 

[sfc4prem]

17 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

Did he actually do that? 

Straight into the microphone that Adam Blackmore was holding, right infront of the crowd

[Gloucester Saint]

1 minute ago, sfc4prem said:

Straight into the microphone that Adam Blackmore was holding, right infront of the crowd

Stephens responded with ‘Fuck West Ham’. For £18m, I think they rather fucked us.

[Gloucester Saint]

59 minutes ago, West end Saints said:

When Fernandes, JWP  and KWP manage to relegate west ham ,he maybe a decent championship player for them

Nuno would have to select JWP first. More frozen out than Farm Foods. https://westhamworld.co.uk/west-ham-nuno-espirito-santo-james-ward-prowse-transfer/

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[sfc4prem]

115k per week? West Ham must be fucked up financially. If they get relegated and don't bounce back...

[Toussaint]

12 minutes ago, sfc4prem said:

Straight into the microphone that Adam Blackmore was holding, right infront of the crowd

That should have been the end of him, right there. He was on loan at the time as well, I never understood why we went back for him and Fraser, neither were up to premier league standard, Fraser was, but he’d had his day.

[Oh no Mick Mills]

14 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Stephens responded with ‘Fuck West Ham’. For £18m, I think they rather fucked us.

To be fair to him he was absolutely vital to us in the Championship last time around. 

We rarely played well when he wasn't playing and the saying sprung up " No Flynn , no win" 

Stephens was the usual scapegoat but if you actually look back at alot of the defeats or crappy draws it was when Downes was not in the side. 

[Lighthouse]

8 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

That should have been the end of him, right there. He was on loan at the time as well, I never understood why we went back for him and Fraser, neither were up to premier league standard, Fraser was, but he’d had his day.

Good grief, get over yourself. Blackmore was winding him up in front of the crowd, who were singing, "sign him up!" He shouted ‘irons!’ Once into the mic and then laughed when everyone booed him.

It was a light-hearted moment when a journalist put him on the spot on stage. Nothing more.

[Toussaint]

1 hour ago, Lighthouse said:

Good grief, get over yourself. Blackmore was winding him up in front of the crowd, who were singing, "sign him up!" He shouted ‘irons!’ Once into the mic and then laughed when everyone booed him.

It was a light-hearted moment when a journalist put him on the spot on stage. Nothing more.

Good grief, get over yourself. The only information I had on the subject was the response to my question above, irrespective of which, we should not have signed him for the premier league campaign in my opinion.  

[Harry_SFC]

1 hour ago, Lighthouse said:

Good grief, get over yourself. Blackmore was winding him up in front of the crowd, who were singing, "sign him up!" He shouted ‘irons!’ Once into the mic and then laughed when everyone booed him.

It was a light-hearted moment when a journalist put him on the spot on stage. Nothing more.

It was more awkward than light hearted to be honest.

[sfc4prem]

1 hour ago, Lighthouse said:

Good grief, get over yourself. Blackmore was winding him up in front of the crowd, who were singing, "sign him up!" He shouted ‘irons!’ Once into the mic and then laughed when everyone booed him.

It was a light-hearted moment when a journalist put him on the spot on stage. Nothing more.

Were you there in the crowd? I was, and it felt pretty awkward to me.