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52 minutes ago, SWLondon Saint said:

On the team front, I could see something like this possibly being a good use of what we have:

--- Bazunu ---

- Edwards -Stephens- Quarshie-

Sugawara - Charles - Downes - Wellington

-- Robinson or Matsuki or Smallbone --

- Downs - Archer -

Obviously the AM spot is the weak point.

 

29 minutes ago, saintant said:

You're forgetting Stephens at CB.

So Bazunu in goal is, at worst, the 3rd weakest selection?

Posted
6 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

I was referring to your assertion that we make players ‘suck it up’. List the times we’ve done that, because I’m struggling to remember seeing any formal proof that’s happened in the last decade and certainly not since Kat sold us out.

I don't think we've been in a position where we've needed to though.

Posted (edited)
12 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

I haven't gone beyond MSc

Where is that in relation to getting to "First base", "Second base", etc ?

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Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, trousers said:

Have you been a buffoon your entire life, or is it a recent development?

(seeing as we're now lowering ourselves to insult territory ;) )

 

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I'm not getting into a war of words. I think the team is far better. You think the team is better, or worse, or the same. You have no opinion, but you like to criticise others.

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Posted
2 hours ago, Chez said:

Will be interesting to see how Sunderland fair. They have spent about £130m according to transfermarkt, which tends to be conservative and not include add ons. Just how much does a promoted side (especially one coming u through the play offs) need to spend to have a chance.

How much did forest spend a couple of years back? That plus 10%?

Posted
11 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

I don't think we've been in a position where we've needed to though.

Oh OK, so it’s highly likely that we’ll not make anyone in the current squad ‘suck it up’ and play for us when they want away. Especially when the evidence shows we’re more than happy to sell our better players and weaken squad quality.

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2 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Oh OK, so it’s highly likely that we’ll not make anyone in the current squad ‘suck it up’ and play for us when they want away. Especially when the evidence shows we’re more than happy to sell our better players and weaken squad quality.

My point was we're not loaning out Fernandes, and if we don't get offered the correct money he'll have to stay.

Posted
6 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

My point was we're not loaning out Fernandes, and if we don't get offered the correct money he'll have to stay.

We will sell even if it’s lower than we want

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Get the manager in early - wow well done Saints, massive tick

Start building and moulding the squad so we’re ready for the start of the season - Hmmmm

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We have to get rid before we can bring in it’s not hard to work out

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Posted
7 minutes ago, jamesfp1 said:

Deadline day is going to be electric

10 out 6 in

But it makes sense though you can’t just keep adding players, we’ve got 6 off the Books with another 2 going soon, brought 2 in plus the returning loan signings. We have a load of players good enough for championship but not good for the premier league.

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Posted
48 minutes ago, trousers said:

Have you been a buffoon your entire life, or is it a recent development?

(seeing as we're now lowering ourselves to insult territory ;) )

Ah, insult territory. Saints Web must be on the verge of a new season @trousers 😂

Posted
7 minutes ago, Doctoroncall said:

Forest have bid for Fernandes (reported in various news outlets). Don’t know the starting bid, it wasn’t stated. 

Forest, West Ham, Fulham, Porto, Galatasary, Al-Qadsiah, Juventus, Inter, Atalanta (I wonder why) and Monaco are some of those I know of who have active interest, no idea how many - if any - have bid. 

Posted
45 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

We will sell even if it’s lower than we want

Which players have we done that with over the past few years? We've extracted some insane sums for players like Lavia, Livramento, JWP. What decent players have we sold cheap?

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Posted (edited)
43 minutes ago, Turkish said:

We have to get rid before we can bring in it’s not hard to work out

But as we can see by this forum, it is so fucking hard to work out.

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Posted
21 minutes ago, Doctoroncall said:

Forest have bid for Fernandes (reported in various news outlets). Don’t know the starting bid, it wasn’t stated. 

Unless it starts with a 4 or a 5 they can fuck off.

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Posted
24 minutes ago, Doctoroncall said:

Forest have bid for Fernandes (reported in various news outlets). Don’t know the starting bid, it wasn’t stated. 

Grok says it was in region if £20m and we apparently want £30m. 

Posted
1 minute ago, gio1saints said:

Grok says it was in region if £20m and we apparently want £30m. 

According to Alfie House a club source said something along the lines of "they wouldn't even get his hair for £30m".

So I very much doubt that. 

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Posted

I can definitely see the club selling Dibling for £40m but I've got a feeling we'd want at least £50-£55m for Fernandes who is clearly already a quality player. Probably a similar sort of fee to that of Lavia. 

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Posted
15 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Which players have we done that with over the past few years? We've extracted some insane sums for players like Lavia, Livramento, JWP. What decent players have we sold cheap?

Doesn't matter what you say. People on here think we sell off everything for less than we could get. We could sell five players for £200m each tomorrow and People on here would still be whining about how we didn't get enough of a sell-on fee.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Ex Lion Tamer said:

If we look back at 2011/12 then none of our Prem-ready players were signed for big money at the start of the promotion season.

 They were all smart signings for reasonable fees or academy products who we spent at least a couple of years nurturing.

It's something you have to build over time - hopefully we're doing that with our latest crop

Completely different climate to 2011. That's almost impossible to do now. 

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Posted (edited)
18 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

Doesn't matter what you say. People on here think we sell off everything for less than we could get. We could sell five players for £200m each tomorrow and People on here would still be whining about how we didn't get enough of a sell-on fee.

It's ridiculous. Yes, SR have bought badly in the past and we've also had some shite managers. However, I don't remember us not getting decent money for players.

Look at how much we got for Sulemana. We got £6m for Bednarek with a year left on his contract and £65k PW wage. Get rid of ABK and Aribo, and then we're in great shape financially. I won't mention PSR, I promise...

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Posted
10 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

It's ridiculous. Yes, SR have bought badly in the past and we've also had some shite managers. However, I don't remember us not getting decent money for players.

Look at how much we got for Sulemana. We got £6m for Bednarek with a year left on his contract and £65k PW wage. Get rid of ABK and Aribo, and then we're in great shape financially. I won't mention PSR, I promise...

The only positive of selling these good players is that we will clearly get a lot of money for them. I agree with you, it's bizarre that someone would think we wouldn't. 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

It's ridiculous. Yes, SR have bought badly in the past and we've also had some shite managers. However, I don't remember us not getting decent money for players.

Look at how much we got for Sulemana. We got £6m for Bednarek with a year left on his contract and £65k PW wage. Get rid of ABK and Aribo, and then we're in great shape financially. I won't mention PSR, I promise...

What do you mean get rid of them for players to leave they must have a decent contract to go to I get the impresssion that ABK is a knob and no one wants him Airbo apparently is on a decent contract with no other clud wanting to match it 

So it is not easy to get rid of some players 

Posted
1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

The only positive of selling these good players is that we will clearly get a lot of money for them. I agree with you, it's bizarre that someone would think we wouldn't. 

Yep, and I would have thought we will purchase some decent replacements as well of we do.

Posted
1 minute ago, John B said:

What do you mean get rid of them for players to leave they must have a decent contract to go to I get the impresssion that ABK is a knob and no one wants him Airbo apparently is on a decent contract with no other clud wanting to match it 

So it is not easy to get rid of some players 

Yeah, it's not easy, and it is a wishlist to get rid of them, but I also thought it would be difficult to get rid of Onuachu, Sulemana and Bednarek for a fee as well, but we did.

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The problem is that if you price your best players out of move entirely it will put off other potential signings as they'll think "well if I go there and do really well for them then they aren't going to let me join a bigger club". 

 

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Posted
1 minute ago, Harry_SFC said:

The problem is that if you price your best players out of move entirely it will put off other potential signings as they'll think "well if I go there and do really well for them then they aren't going to let me join a bigger club". 

 

Every club is going to try to get as much money as possible. No one lets a player move to a big club unless the offer is too good to turn down. Likewise no one really says no, they just say, a bit more money please. Where things come unstuck is when a player and agent thinks their value is, say, £30m, but the club sets a price of £60m. 

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Posted

There was always going to be significant interest in Fernandes and Dibling this summer.

I'm quite relaxed about it, one of the few things that SR have got right is playing hard ball with departures and getting good fees

Let's just hope if we do lose our best players we reinvest well and ultimately that will prove if Spors is good enough

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Posted

Pretty much the only thing you can say SR have done well over the last few years is getting decent fees on player sales so might as well relax about this. Can't complain about what they got for Onuachu, Sulemana and Bednarek.

Posted
5 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

I'm not sure that's true at all. Arguably we did that last time and it meant the quality of the squad was much too low and we finished bottom by miles. 

We did both, THB and Downes were loans too good for Championship but signings like Fraser, Manning and loans of Rothwell were solid championship but not PL level

Posted
7 hours ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

We have a good Championship squad, but we need those sparks that can be the difference, at the moment we don’t have any real sparks

I don't disagree, but we were never going to be selling the majority of our squad. It doesn't happen.

Posted
10 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

I really couldn’t care, if we keep one of Dibling or Fernandes then that’s a decent summer in the grand scheme of things

I don't think it's that simple. At the moment I feel we need to buy a number 1 goalkeeper, a creative midfielder and a winger who can beat players and deliver a decent cross, regardless of what happens to Dibling and Fernandes.

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Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, lambtiss said:

I don't think it's that simple. At the moment I feel we need to buy a number 1 goalkeeper, a creative midfielder and a winger who can beat players and deliver a decent cross, regardless of what happens to Dibling and Fernandes.

Agreed ,  it would be nice to see some activity at least 

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Posted
36 minutes ago, Saint Scott said:

There was always going to be significant interest in Fernandes and Dibling this summer.

I'm quite relaxed about it, one of the few things that SR have got right is playing hard ball with departures and getting good fees

Let's just hope if we do lose our best players we reinvest well and ultimately that will prove if Spors is good enough

Hi Les

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Posted (edited)

"We have a good Championship squad". Yeah, if you're expecting a mid-table finish. That's not a squad capable of a top 6 finish! 
Our squad is bang-average. It's lacking a sold rock of a midfielder. An experienced CB. A creative midfielder and a winger. I'm not conviced we'got what's needed up front either. There's a complete lack of experience across the entire squad. You need a few old wise heads who've been around a bit.

I'd rather see Nathan Wood staring ahead of Stephens, but Jack seems to know where the bodies are buried and somehow that gets him in the starting 11 every week, despite him being a complete liability. 

 

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Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, Turkish said:

We have to get rid before we can bring in it’s not hard to work out

We've got rid of loads! We're a week away from the start of the season and we haven't exactly set the world on fire with new signings, infact, this summer feels just like last summer in that we haven't bought what's needed, again! 

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What a bunch of fannies, Jesus. Let's at least give the club until the end of the transfer window and the manager a decent run of games before we start wetting the bed.

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Posted
1 minute ago, Danbert said:

What a bunch of fannies, Jesus. Let's at least give the club until the end of the transfer window and the manager a decent run of games before we start wetting the bed.

The sea is dryer than these babies.

Posted (edited)
26 minutes ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said:

We've got rid of loads! We're a week away from the start of the season and we haven't exactly set the world on fire with new signings, infact, this summer feels just like last summer in that we haven't brought what's needed, again! 

We actually haven’t. 
 

we’ve lost KWP, Lumley and Lallana out of contract, sold TP, Benares and Sulemana and loaned our Larios, who never played anyway that’s it.

We’ve signed 2 got Armstrong, Baz, Edwards and Charles back for loan, Matsuki has moved over so we’re actually net even. I’m not counting Edozie as he’s come back but will leave soon

The problem is we’re over loaded in some positions and weak in others 

we all know what we need and we all know we’ll probably lose another 5 or 6 before the season starts which will free up some space. But you can’t sign players before you’ve sold the ones they’re replacing 

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12 minutes ago, Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd said:

We've got rid of loads! We're a week away from the start of the season and we haven't exactly set the world on fire with new signings, infact, this summer feels just like last summer in that we haven't brought what's needed, again! 

People that say "brought", instead of "bought"...

 

 

Oh sorry, wrong thread again.

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