Will Still

[Fabrice29]

2 hours ago, RedArmy said:

What’s the alternative though? Just carry on doing what we’re doing? 
 

Surely the first job of a manager is to get his best players in their best positions and get them playing well. Half of them are now on the bench because we haven’t got a position for them. Utterly ridiculous. 
 

The Hull result obviously spooked him but now that we seem to have found a bit more resilience at the back with McCarthy in goal and Wood coming in surely today was a good opportunity (especially with Quarshie out injured) to give the 4-2-3-1 another chance. 

 

Why not? It gives us a solid foundation to build on and allows us to be competitive. I'm not a fan of formation chat in general because I think formations are obsolete but we've found a way to be solid which we'll need to be and I don't think we need to come away from that to start scoring goals. I don't think playing more wasteful attackers would make us any less wasteful. I think we need to stop being wasteful. As I've said on here for quite a while now, there isn't some magic formation, team selection or player that suddenly gets us ticking that four managers in the last year have ignored. 

Edited Saturday at 22:28 by Fabrice29

[Greedyfly]

2 hours ago, notnowcato said:

Honest opinion mate. 
I genuinely enjoyed watching us the last time we were in the Championship. I could see what the team were trying to do, granted the style wasn’t for everyone but I liked it. 
 

We’re a shower this season. Obviously I hope Will turns it around but at the moment it doesn’t look close to happening. Even if we had won today, which we absolutely should’ve done, you’d reflect on the way we’re playing and know we’re not troubling top 6 the way things currently are. 

That's absolutely fair enough. Don't agree with all your takes, nor yours mine I'd imagine, but good to understand where you're coming from. 

 

Yeah it's a shower at the moment which is weird in itself because, what I know of his Lens team, they did have something of an identity. 

[LoyalSaintSO50]

Get him gone. Ridiculous appointment, he’s not turning this round. Thanks for being bilingual. Pre-season play a back 4 and then change the shape to a 3 and then talk about the system you want to play and then chuck fellows in off the bench to play as a wing back. Ross wasn’t even starting v the skates and then all of a sudden he can play 3 in a few days. Struggling to think of anything he’s got right yet. Boring as fuck to listen to n all 

[Mr X]

8 hours ago, LoyalSaintSO50 said:

Get him gone. Ridiculous appointment, he’s not turning this round. Thanks for being bilingual. Pre-season play a back 4 and then change the shape to a 3 and then talk about the system you want to play and then chuck fellows in off the bench to play as a wing back. Ross wasn’t even starting v the skates and then all of a sudden he can play 3 in a few days. Struggling to think of anything he’s got right yet. Boring as fuck to listen to n all 

Tend to agree unfortunately but this is sport republic we are dealing with the most inept people ever that call themselves leaders and visionaries in the field of sports management 🤣🤣 you've got to laugh!   Surely they have made a bed for themselves now they aren't going to admit they've made another disastrous appointment yet again anytime soon! He's here at least for this season in my opinion 😤

Edited 22 hours ago by Mr X

[CB Fry]

Who's the best manager in the Sport Republic multi-club corporation multiverse? There must be an absolute gem we can import into the SR Flagship club to fire us to promotion, surely.

[Osvaldorama]

Can we deport Will Still to Goztepe?

[LiberalCommunist]

Why are we so slow and ponderous? Is it energy retention? I thought he was going to concentrate of our fitness and utilise subs so that would not be an issue. The pressure is mounting. The grace period has passed. 

[AlexLaw76]

2 minutes ago, LiberalCommunist said:

Why are we so slow and ponderous? Is it energy retention? I thought he was going to concentrate of our fitness and utilise subs so that would not be an issue. The pressure is mounting. The grace period has passed. 

we have to believe many of the players were brainwashed by a manager who was in change for 18 months, and how was sacked nearly a year ago.

[badgerx16]

17 hours ago, saintant said:

Yet for all those negatives we limited Swansea to zero chances and had enough simple chances of our own to win 2 or 3 nil even without a recognised striker. So the manager must have got some things right or we'd surely have lost the game not thrown it away.

It isn't just yesterday's result, we have won 2 games out of 10 in the league, and have scored 2 goals in only 3 of those games.

[LGTL]

35 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

Who's the best manager in the Sport Republic multi-club corporation multiverse? There must be an absolute gem we can import into the SR Flagship club to fire us to promotion, surely.

Calling @Matthew Le God to the thread. Can you let us know who we could have from our exciting multi-club model that completely benefits us, please?

[Matthew Le God]

37 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

Who's the best manager in the Sport Republic multi-club corporation multiverse? There must be an absolute gem we can import into the SR Flagship club to fire us to promotion, surely.

 

1 minute ago, LGTL said:

Calling @Matthew Le God to the thread. Can you let us know who we could have from our exciting multi-club model that completely benefits us, please?

Well if that was the choice, the Göztepe manager is doing the best job of the three SR managers so far. That doesn't mean he'd be right for us though. 

[CB Fry]

9 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

 

Well if that was the choice, the Göztepe manager is doing the best job of the three SR managers so far. That doesn't mean he'd be right for us though. 

If he is any good, he'll probably bugger off to a role in Germany and you'd be on here telling us how wonderful that is and how grateful we should be

[Matthew Le God]

1 minute ago, CB Fry said:

If he is any good, he'll probably bugger off to a role in Germany and you'd be on here telling us how wonderful that is and how grateful we should be

Can you really not see how any player or staff member would likely view a move to RB Leipzig as preferable to the Championship?

When did I say we should be grateful about it? 

[CB Fry]

9 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Can you really not see how any player or staff member would likely view a move to RB Leipzig as preferable to the Championship?

When did I say we should be grateful about it? 

So players just pass through a Turkish club but good enough to move to a top level Bundesliga/CL club and at no point contributes a single playing minute to the flagship club.

Exactly the same as if Goztepe had no connection with us whatsoever.

You realise how fucking pointless it all is, right?

[trousers]

MLG back with his 'lets see how unlikeable I can come across' routine... Is it half term already...?

[AlexLaw76]

7 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

So players just pass through a Turkish club but good enough to move to a top level Bundesliga/CL club and at no point contributes a single playing minute to the flagship club.

Exactly the same as if Goztepe had no connection with us whatsoever.

You realise how fucking pointless it all is, right?

If that transfer did not take place, we may not have had the funds to purchase Damion Downs, and may have been forced to sign either...

Kieffer Moore, Kone, McBurnie, Ivanovic Carlton Morris etc

Thank god for the multi-club model and the sales to Germany.

Edited 21 hours ago by AlexLaw76

[Matthew Le God]

16 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

So players just pass through a Turkish club but good enough to move to a top level Bundesliga/CL club and at no point contributes a single playing minute to the flagship club.

Exactly the same as if Goztepe had no connection with us whatsoever.

You realise how fucking pointless it all is, right?

Had we not been relegated last season then we'd have been a more viable option for Romulo to move to. Relegation screwed that up.

Romulo has even stated part of his motivation for joining Göztepe was the Saints connection. But Saints relegation impacts the appeal of such a move if a club like RB Leipzig then approaches him.

 

 

Edited 21 hours ago by Matthew Le God

[Willo of Whiteley]

The line up itself was frustrating to see, five at the back against a poor Championship side. That was Will Still’s mistake.

All that said, we totally outperformed Swansea yesterday and were ultimately let down by the players finishing, not the formation. That isn’t on him.

We did more than enough to win but simply weren’t clinical enough.

[Osvaldorama]

17 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Had we not been relegated last season then we'd have been a more viable option for Romulo to move to. Relegation screwed that up.

Romulo has even stated part of his motivation for joining Göztepe was the Saints connection. But Saints relegation impacts the appeal of such a move if a club like RB Leipzig then approaches him.

 

 

😂😂😂

 

So you admit the multi club model is a complete failure then?

[CB Fry]

25 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Had we not been relegated last season then we'd have been a more viable option for Romulo to move to. Relegation screwed that up.

This "relegation" you speak of, was the multi club model in place for that?

Edited 20 hours ago by CB Fry

[Osvaldorama]

The corporate player trading business formerly known as Southampton FC gains absolutely nothing from this business model. 

[Weston Super Saint]

25 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Had we not been relegated last season then we'd have been a more viable option for Romulo to move to. Relegation screwed that up.

Romulo has even stated part of his motivation for joining Göztepe was the Saints connection. But Saints relegation impacts the appeal of such a move if a club like RB Leipzig then approaches him.

 

 

That was October the 12th!

We were nailed on for relegation by then.

[Osvaldorama]

[Lord Duckhunter]

1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

It isn't just yesterday's result, we have won 2 games out of 10 in the league, and have scored 2 goals in only 3 of those games.

This is the issue. Obviously we should have won yesterday, but that’s avoiding the fact we could have easily drawn both the games we won, and lost to The Skates. Our points total is about right for performances and that’s unacceptable. The question is whether this guy is capable of turning it round, and addressing  the underlying issues and straightening them out. To me he looks like a little boy lost, unsure of what his best side is, and subtly trying to blame the previous regime and mindset of players.
 

This is a tough arsed league, relentless, you can’t be learning in the job. This squad of players would be higher in the league under Nathan Jones or Lego Head, bearing in mind their weaknesses, that’s a damning indictment of Still. I hate to say it, but he looks like son in law material, rather than the hard nosed, proper manager you need in this league.
 

 

Edited 20 hours ago by Lord Duckhunter

[RedArmy]

11 hours ago, Fabrice29 said:

Why not? 

Because we’re struggling to beat some of the worst teams in the division. 

[Saint_clark]

I'm honestly shocked at how fast so many people on here have turned against Still. I see a lot of steady improvement in this side game on game. I don't want to be chopping the manager every 10 games. 

[AlexLaw76]

3 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

I'm honestly shocked at how fast so many people on here have turned against Still. I see a lot of steady improvement in this side game on game. I don't want to be chopping the manager every 10 games. 

What improvement are you expecting on Tuesday, if you know, it’s getting better and better?

[Matthew Le God]

35 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

😂😂😂

 

So you admit the multi club model is a complete failure then?

How have you jumped from what I said in that post to that?

[Willo of Whiteley]

59 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

Had we not been relegated last season then we'd have been a more viable option for Romulo to move to. Relegation screwed that up.

 

 

We were never, ever going to be getting him, Terrible response 😂

Edited 20 hours ago by Willo of Whiteley

[Matthew Le God]

4 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

I'm honestly shocked at how fast so many people on here have turned against Still. I see a lot of steady improvement in this side game on game. I don't want to be chopping the manager every 10 games. 

 

Just now, AlexLaw76 said:

What improvement are you expecting on Tuesday, if you know, it’s getting better and better?

The only thing missing yesterday was some finishing. We were completely on top throughout. Obviously missing finishing is quite a big issue, as you won't win without it. But it would be significantly more concerning if we weren't creating the numerous chances we had to score in the first place.

[Matthew Le God]

2 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

We were never, ever going to be getting him, Terrible response 😂

Have you read by the player in the quote in the post on X?

[AlexLaw76]

18 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

 

The only thing missing yesterday was some finishing. We were completely on top throughout. Obviously missing finishing is quite a big issue, as you won't win without it. But it would be significantly more concerning if we weren't creating the numerous chances we had to score in the first place.

So, a win then.

looking forward to it 

[Badger]

48 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

I hate to say it, but he looks like son in law material, rather than the hard nosed, proper manager you need in this league.
 

 

Good job he’s got Nivea in the backroom to help sort it out. 

[Badger]

2 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

we have to believe many of the players were brainwashed by a manager who was in change for 18 months, and how was sacked nearly a year ago.

This is bollocks isn’t it ? Still has had since July to iron out some of the “scar tissue” left by Lego. And to exorcise the demons of passing it out by the GK and backs. 

[Willo of Whiteley]

29 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

 

The only thing missing yesterday was some finishing. We were completely on top throughout. Obviously missing finishing is quite a big issue, as you won't win without it. But it would be significantly more concerning if we weren't creating the numerous chances we had to score in the first place.

As much as I would like to disagree this is spot on.

We all raised eyebrows when the team was announced, but ultimately we dominated and created too many chances to not score, and yet somehow we still did.

I’d be more concerned if we weren’t creating chances, we clearly are, just need a couple to go in and the floodgates will open.

[Willo of Whiteley]

Just now, Badger said:

This is bollocks isn’t it ? Still has had since July to iron out some of the “scar tissue” left by Lego. And to exorcise the demons of passing it out by the GK and backs. 

I think when Will Still take about “scar tissue” it’s to protect the players in public.

Behind the scenes he strikes me as the kind of person that’ll be telling them to grow up and be professional.

Half the team has changed too, so sod the scar tissue theory. If they aren’t big enough to get over that and draw a one under last season then they shouldn’t be playing.

[Lord Duckhunter]

16 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Behind the scenes he strikes me as the kind of person that’ll be telling them to grow up and be professional.

Based on what? 

[JohnnyShearer2.0]

He said he came here to win games, implying in any way. 2 league wins out of 10 is poor. Personally think Saints should have won at least 6 by now.

[rooney]

Pep Guardiola could not make Archer and Armstrong quality strikers.

[Willo of Whiteley]

Players and staff cannot hide behind the “last season was poor/they’re still hurting” forever.

Eventually you have to turn around and go “we’re fucking better than that, time to right our wrong etc”.

[skintsaint]

54 minutes ago, JohnnyShearer2.0 said:

Personally think Saints should have won at least 6 by now.

Yep and blame the players for some of it for some shocking finishing. Manager can only do so much.

Will needs to improve his sub game though as largely they don't have any effect at all and its where he can be critisised.

Defensively we look a lot better than the last two seasons but has taken a bit of sting out of our attacking play.

[Wade Garrett]

2 hours ago, Saint_clark said:

I'm honestly shocked at how fast so many people on here have turned against Still. I see a lot of steady improvement in this side game on game. I don't want to be chopping the manager every 10 games. 

They won’t if they appoint a decent one instead of the shite they have appointed.

[Osvaldorama]

1 hour ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

As much as I would like to disagree this is spot on.

We all raised eyebrows when the team was announced, but ultimately we dominated and created too many chances to not score, and yet somehow we still did.

I’d be more concerned if we weren’t creating chances, we clearly are, just need a couple to go in and the floodgates will open.

We were playing a terrible Swansea team that didn’t even turn up. 
 

Watch and see what happens when we play a competent championship side. 

[Football Special]

20 hours ago, Osvaldorama said:

Are SR demanding that managers stick to a 5 at the back formation?

 

Successive managers all play this nonsense and it never works. Just wondering if they’re instructed to do it 

Any basis to this? 

[Willo of Whiteley]

I think defensively as a whole we look a lot better, but then again it was a low bar after the past couple of seasons.

If you’ve seen any of Will Still’s previous managerial stints it’s been initially about shoring things up at the back and then building forward.

Attacking-wise we’re creating enough chances, it’s the finishing that has let us down. Will Still isn’t on the pitch. He isn’t the one tapping it at the keeper, or skying a penalty. 

The recruitment for the position, a striker, that we needed most he has been badly let down.

[Pamplemousse]

Yesterday was the first time we've really dominated an opponent this season. On another day we'd have won 3 or 4-0. 

Hopefully he sticks with Archer and gives him a run of games. It will click at some point.

[saint michael]

They can become the best inter game improving team in the world but it doesn’t mean they can take the next step and score. There is something major wrong if a team can’t defend effectively and be able to score. doing both well are key. We seem to have to make a choice. All out attack and weak defence or better defence and weaker attack. 
 

I would love to understand what the owner is really trying to do and exactly what good looks like for him. Buying players to sit on the bench,  Having players who are available and frozen out, buying a striker for millions who looks so shit it’s not funny. So much change over the years and absolutely no positive effect of all and any of the changes. I honestly believe we could buy a world class striker and turn them into a turd very quickly. 

Edited 17 hours ago by saint michael

[Saint NL]

4 hours ago, LiberalCommunist said:

Why are we so slow and ponderous? Is it energy retention? I thought he was going to concentrate of our fitness and utilise subs so that would not be an issue. The pressure is mounting. The grace period has passed. 

Are you Jo Tessem?

[Wade Garrett]

1 hour ago, Pamplemousse said:

Yesterday was the first time we've really dominated an opponent this season. On another day we'd have won 3 or 4-0. 

Hopefully he sticks with Archer and gives him a run of games. It will click at some point.

I agree about sticking with Archer.

[2Morrow]

It will come good