Will Still

[beatlesaint]

3 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

I'm excited to see Sport Republics next pick, I can't wait.

Well you named it a few days ago, it’ll be that bloke who’s been in America for a while. Eric something or other ?

[Miltonaggro]

3 minutes ago, beatlesaint said:

Well you named it a few days ago, it’ll be that bloke who’s been in America for a while. Eric something or other ?

Bristow?

[Sparkkyy]

16 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

Not to be a dick or anything, but didn't you also say that Brereton-Diaz, Archer and Armstrong would score 60 goals between them in this division if we played to their strengths and they stayed fit? 

A few people (MLG) were saying our attack had players who had been prolific in this division before and expected them to do the same this season. You didn’t consider that they might have already peaked. Turns out you were wrong….again. Now you are suggesting Ralph comes back. A new level of delusion has been achieved. 

[Toadhall Saint]

4 minutes ago, beatlesaint said:

Well you named it a few days ago, it’ll be that bloke who’s been in America for a while. Eric something or other ?

Idle

[S-Clarke]

4 minutes ago, beatlesaint said:

Well you named it a few days ago, it’ll be that bloke who’s been in America for a while. Eric something or other ?

Eric Ramsay, heavily linked in the summer. A very hipster left field choice by clever fuckers., and we have clever fuckers in charge of us so we know how this goes.

Totally the wrong sort as we all know, but I'm sure Will is offski imminently - another huge contract pay-out to cripple the club, and then the next left-field non-working choice will come through the door.

[Turkish]

1 minute ago, S-Clarke said:

Eric Ramsay, heavily linked in the summer. A very hipster left field choice by clever fuckers., and we have clever fuckers in charge of us so we know how this goes.

Totally the wrong sort as we all know, but I'm sure Will is offski imminently - another huge contract pay-out to cripple the club, and then the next left-field non-working choice will come through the door.

What do they say the definition of insanity is?

[Midfield_General]

8 minutes ago, beatlesaint said:

Well you named it a few days ago, it’ll be that bloke who’s been in America for a while. Eric something or other ?

Black?

[S-Clarke]

Just now, Turkish said:

What do they say the definition of insanity is?

Rasmus Ankersen.

[Suhari]

3 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

Black?

Unfinished business.

[Mboto Gorge]

Has he gone yet? Today was the straw that broke the camels back for me, totally unnaceptable and unforgivable result and in-game management. He can’t continue 

Edited 9 hours ago by Mboto Gorge

[skintsaint]

Well its not looking great for Will now as after all its a results business so the board must be looking at it now as a change might be needed.

But..

thats another game where we should win but don't and that's on the players...again.

Not sure what another new manager would bring at this stage as its still the same inept players that will be on the pitch missing chance after chance.

[S-Clarke]

Just now, skintsaint said:

Well its not looking great for Will now as after all its a results business so the board must be looking at it now as a change might be needed.

But..

thats another game where we should win but don't and that's on the players...again.

Not sure what another new manager would bring at this stage as its still the same inept players that will be on the pitch missing chance after chance.

I do get where you're coming from, and it's another huge financial pay-out we'll have to handle as well. There's no positives to this because we'll end up with another left field choice, and the same bloated utter horrendous mess of a squad.

I think his position is untenable and the atmosphere will mean he can't turn this around now, but the problems are so so far deeper than Will Still. And we'll see that when the next guy comes in and it's groundhog day.

[Lighthouse]

29 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

Not to be a dick or anything, but didn't you also say that Brereton-Diaz, Archer and Armstrong would score 60 goals between them in this division if we played to their strengths and they stayed fit? 

I wouldn’t have their strengths down as five subs every game and going with Armstrong as the loan striker from 60 mins onwards. Were never going to know what they’re capable of under Still.

[Midfield_General]

5 minutes ago, Turkish said:

What do they say the definition of insanity is?

Subbing off Scienza for Stephens when you're playing Blackburn and you've already got 3 CBs on the pitch? 

[sfc4prem]

Sports Republic = Shit

Still = shit

Strikers = shite

Defence =Shit.

Goalkeepers = Shite.

Conclusion? We're fucking shite.

[Saint_clark]

1 minute ago, skintsaint said:

Well its not looking great for Will now as after all its a results business so the board must be looking at it now as a change might be needed.

But..

thats another game where we should win but don't and that's on the players...again.

Not sure what another new manager would bring at this stage as its still the same inept players that will be on the pitch missing chance after chance.

Other than Stephens on for Scienza, I agree. Another manager comes in to improve us, we play a different way and we create chances which the players are still missing because their finishing ability is still the same. What then? 

I said it earlier, at least with Still he is honest that we aren't where he wants us to be. Last season listening to Martin say "this is how we want to play and it will work eventually" was fucking infuriating.

[Turkish]

1 minute ago, skintsaint said:

Well its not looking great for Will now as after all its a results business so the board must be looking at it now as a change might be needed.

But..

thats another game where we should win but don't and that's on the players...again.

Not sure what another new manager would bring at this stage as its still the same inept players that will be on the pitch missing chance after chance.

It’s not even just the results. Last 20 Minutes today was a disgrace against an awful Blackburn team. They had nothing they were shit. Then suddenly we change shape and they look like Real Madrid whilst we’re a shambles with the no one any idea where they should be

[Midfield_General]

5 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

I wouldn’t have their strengths down as five subs every game and going with Armstrong as the loan striker from 60 mins onwards. Were never going to know what they’re capable of under Still.

What do you think the strengths are that another manager would play to that would see each of them score 20 this season?

[Mboto Gorge]

40 minutes ago, saintant said:

As incompetent as Will Still proved himself today the horrific news is that those who appointed him have to sack him and choose his successor ergo the main problem is partly the manager but it's SR who we need to get rid of. Fix the problem at its source which is our batshit owners. We can let them appoint as many managers as they want but us getting a half decent football club back doesn't even start until the first day they are gone.  

Exactly and I’ve been saying this for the last year plus now 

[skintsaint]

6 minutes ago, Turkish said:

It’s not even just the results. Last 20 Minutes today was a disgrace against an awful Blackburn team. They had nothing they were shit. Then suddenly we change shape and they look like Real Madrid whilst we’re a shambles with the no one any idea where they should be

I said earlier on this thread its where I've been critical of Will is with the subs. But I guess you don't know how a change of shape goes until you try it, and it wasn't great....and then a cross goes in and its all on us unfortunately.

[Mboto Gorge]

6 minutes ago, Turkish said:

It’s not even just the results. Last 20 Minutes today was a disgrace against an awful Blackburn team. They had nothing they were shit. Then suddenly we change shape and they look like Real Madrid whilst we’re a shambles with the no one any idea where they should be

The ridiculous thing is, Russell Martin (who’s a terrible manager) probably wins that game 3-0. That’s how shit Still was today, and is in general, from what I’ve seen of him 

[RedArmy]

16 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

I wouldn’t have their strengths down as five subs every game and going with Armstrong as the loan striker from 60 mins onwards. Were never going to know what they’re capable of under Still.

He’s not on loan we signed him years ago. 
 

[Jack]

End of the day, if he can’t beat any of the dross we’ve just played and failed to beat, with the squad of players we’ve got, he’s got no business being in the job. 
 

I was hopeful, he seemed honest and I got sucked into the hot prospect and quality coach hype, but he’s fucking shit. Get rid asap before more damage is done 

[Pamplemousse]

He's a good coach but the results say it all. He's the wrong guy at the wrong time. We need someone experienced to steady the ship and motivate these fucking useless players.

[AlexLaw76]

So we beat Wrexham in the last kick of the game, after being battered for the best part of it. and hung on to a win away to the team bottom of the league at the time.

if the Wrexham game was not a warning, the Pompey game was.

Still is a terrible manager for us, and sticking with him will achieve nothing what so ever.

[bpsaint]

No manager comes back from the fans turning against you so it’s just a matter of time. The question is whether SR pull the plug before it’s too late to salvage anything this season.

[hypochondriac]

The problem is he has zero experience of managing at this level with a team who has no morale and trying to rebuild things. We needed to bring in someone with those qualities tbh.

[tdmickey3]

Just go

[Harry_SFC]

5 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

The problem is he has zero experience of managing at this level with a team who has no morale and trying to rebuild things. We needed to bring in someone with those qualities tbh.

We just need someone who can bring the squad together with a positive mindset and make normal substitutions. That would be a start.

Why have Aribo, Edozie and Matsuki been excluded for example. 3 players who we could do with right now. 

Edited 8 hours ago by Harry_SFC

[hypochondriac]

Just now, Harry_SFC said:

We just need someone who can bring the squad together with a positive mindset and make normal substitutions. That would be a start.

Why have Aribo, Edozie and Matsuki been excluded for example. 

I don't disagree. We have little option at the back other than to go with some of the players letting us down but in midfield we have loads of other things we can try including the three you mention. I'd add Sesay abd the youth striker to those as well. Given how shit we are whatever we are doing we may as well try some of the younger players to se eif they can get us performing better.

[capitalsaint]

35 minutes ago, sfc4prem said:

Sports Republic = Shit

Still = shit

Strikers = shite

Defence =Shit.

Goalkeepers = Shite.

Conclusion? We're fucking shite.

Appropriate that, like us, the midfield is missing

[gallaghert366@yahoo.com]

18 minutes ago, Jack said:

End of the day, if he can’t beat any of the dross we’ve just played and failed to beat, with the squad of players we’ve got, he’s got no business being in the job. 
 

I was hopeful, he seemed honest and I got sucked into the hot prospect and quality coach hype, but he’s fucking shit. Get rid asap before more damage is done 

Make sure Spors is also clearing his desk.

[Turkish]

54 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said:

The ridiculous thing is, Russell Martin (who’s a terrible manager) probably wins that game 3-0. That’s how shit Still was today, and is in general, from what I’ve seen of him 

Armstrong scores one of his one on ones we probably win 3-0 too, genuinely Blackburn were shocking however to lose from that position is shocking and it’s mainly on still but the players looked absolutely lost and clueless. They were a disgrace they threw the towel in once they scored 

[Galway saint]

1 hour ago, Miltonaggro said:

Bristow?

Morecombe ?

[Golac's Cunning Stunts]

Just now, Turkish said:

Armstrong scores one of his one on ones we probably win 3-0 too, genuinely Blackburn were shocking however to lose from that position is shocking and it’s mainly on still but the players looked absolutely lost and clueless. They were a disgrace they threw the towel in once they scored 

i got laughed at a while ago for saying perhaps we need another relegation to finally flush all the shit down the pan. To be clear, I would rather we turn this round! Just do not see any evidence at all that things will change. Some of the players who left the club recently are now doing well, what does that tell us? Club is rotten from the top down. We need Sports direct gone, 

[Mboto Gorge]

Just now, Turkish said:

Armstrong scores one of his one on ones we probably win 3-0 too, genuinely Blackburn were shocking however to lose from that position is shocking and it’s mainly on still but the players looked absolutely lost and clueless. They were a disgrace they threw the towel in once they scored 

Very similar to Tuesday night in that regard, played well then until we went behind, then the white flag comes up the moment we fall behind. Piss weak mentality throughout the squad and staff. It’s been the same throughout sport republics tenure, no backbone at all on the pitch , which is the clear result of signing too many mentally and physically weak players lacking in experience and ignoring the spine of our team year after year. It’s criminal 

 

[Toadhall Saint]

5 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said:

Very similar to Tuesday night in that regard, played well then until we went behind, then the white flag comes up the moment we fall behind. Piss weak mentality throughout the squad and staff. It’s been the same throughout sport republics tenure, no backbone at all on the pitch , which is the clear result of signing too many mentally and physically weak players lacking in experience and ignoring the spine of our team year after year. It’s criminal 

 

It’s not falling behind it’s as soon as we concede.  As soon as as that happens the other side if they were half competent can or should score a hat full - it’s like the Alamo without John Wayne 

[CB Fry]

1 hour ago, Mboto Gorge said:

The ridiculous thing is, Russell Martin (who’s a terrible manager) probably wins that game 3-0. That’s how shit Still was today, and is in general, from what I’ve seen of him 

Russell Martin is on the available evidence, a far better manager than Will Still.

[Mboto Gorge]

2 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

Russell Martin is on the available evidence, a far better manager than Will Still.

My point entirely. 

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, bpsaint said:

No manager comes back from the fans turning against you so it’s just a matter of time. The question is whether SR pull the plug before it’s too late to salvage anything this season.

It wasn’t just Still though. Last 20 mins it was a lot of singing against board and players too. It started when he took Scienza off, the best player on the pitch by some distance “you don’t know what you’re doing” from then on once they scored it losing was inevitable. We had no shape, players clueless and lost and threw the towel in. The last 15 minutes it was all Songs about still being sacked, SR out of the club and then the players met with your not fit to wear the shirt. I’ve been at games where one of the three is the subject of fans anger but never all 3 at the same time and to Honest I’m glad it was. Still has been terrible as it’s proved but he’s also got shit above and him and playing for him. 

[Lord Duckhunter]

1 hour ago, Pamplemousse said:

He's a good coach

Based on what? 

[James]

Just now, Lord Duckhunter said:

Based on what? 

Agreed. See a lot of this but there is literally zero evidence of any form of quality coaching. Every time he puts 11 players on the pitch it looks like random blokes they’ve gotten together for a kick about. 

[Willo of Whiteley]

2 hours ago, Greenridge said:

I don’t know why you would say that when SR have sacked a handful prior to Still. 

I don’t see them reacting to this.

I see more of the same bullshit next week, i.e “we’ve had injuries, we’ve had illness, the team is gelling, we’re creating opportunities, scar tissue bollocks” etc etc.

[Turkish]

Not only have we pnly won 4 games in 17 months only 4 team in the whole of the 92 clubs have won few games than us this season 

Fuck me

[Gloucester Saint]

13 minutes ago, Turkish said:

It wasn’t just Still though. Last 20 mins it was a lot of singing against board and players too. It started when he took Scienza off, the best player on the pitch by some distance “you don’t know what you’re doing” from then on once they scored it losing was inevitable. We had no shape, players clueless and lost and threw the towel in. The last 15 minutes it was all Songs about still being sacked, SR out of the club and then the players met with your not fit to wear the shirt. I’ve been at games where one of the three is the subject of fans anger but never all 3 at the same time and to Honest I’m glad it was. Still has been terrible as it’s proved but he’s also got shit above and him and playing for him. 

Sounds far more like the Branfoot years and Lowe protests than the odd set of banners and chants we saw for the Spurs disaster under Martin. About time and with Dragan losing control of United Group, it may the time to turn the temperature up some more.

Our away support could do that but will the home support?

[The Kraken]

6 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Based on what? 

 

4 minutes ago, James said:

Agreed. See a lot of this but there is literally zero evidence of any form of quality coaching. Every time he puts 11 players on the pitch it looks like random blokes they’ve gotten together for a kick about. 

Precisely this. I’ve been a stuck record (and the likes of Fabrice tend to get a bit arsey about it) but me and many others have been asking since day one “what is Will Still’s style for us”?  I’m still none the wiser now, I’ve seen no identity and quite frankly a shockingly bad imitation of a cohesive team. I’ve got no idea what’s going on behind the scenes but it seems likes we’ve got some really good players for this level (Scienza, Charles, Fellows, Azaz, Downes, Armstrong) mixed in with some other not bad players and some other players who are clearly ok for this level. We’ve also released players in Smallbone and Bree who seemingly aren’t good enough for us but are good enough for sides currently in third and sixth place respectively.
 

But something inside the whole collective is just off. I think Still’s “leadership” is terrible, I said before on here, I watched the Hull game from behind the dugouts and he just looked like a little boy lost. I see no evidence of what these players are being coached. He’s just massively out of his depth, and the coaching staff we’ve got are clearly doing nothing apart from putting the cones out. Such a shambles of a club and burning the life out of the parachute payments and enormous sums we got for Fernandes and Dibling.

[LoyalSaintSO50]

They would be complete and utter morons to long this one out… and as such, no doubt see you again Saturday Will for another shitshow. 
 

Out of interest, although Solak is ultimately responsible for this total mess, which of his minions do you feel most deserve the anger heading their way? 

[Osvaldorama]

Has he gone yet?

[RedArmy]

5 minutes ago, LoyalSaintSO50 said:

They would be complete and utter morons to long this one out… and as such, no doubt see you again Saturday Will for another shitshow. 
 

Out of interest, although Solak is ultimately responsible for this total mess, which of his minions do you feel most deserve the anger heading their way? 

Rasmus. 

[Gloucester Saint]

3 minutes ago, LoyalSaintSO50 said:

They would be complete and utter morons to long this one out… and as such, no doubt see you again Saturday Will for another shitshow. 
 

Out of interest, although Solak is ultimately responsible for this total mess, which of his minions do you feel most deserve the anger heading their way? 

Rasmus - Spors has made some horrific decisions but when it emerged that Rasmus was still selling players in the summer you realised that he’d still found ways to interfere. Pretty sure that’s why the keeper and striker positions weren’t sorted so it didn’t come up at the SR board meetings about the dreadful mistakes on Bazunu and Stewart.

You can debate the roles/mistakes from Shields, Wilcox, Spors, what Kraft did/didn’t do (Rasmus stabbed him in the back too) and the revolving door of scared rabbit managers, but there’s one constant factor….