Will Still

[saintant]

18 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

I don’t disagree, but changing the manager is the only option the club have in the here and now, the rest of the things that need fixing will take much longer.

I get your point but that's putting the cart before the horse. Until SR are gone they will continue making the wrong decisions which will include appointing a replacement for Will Still.  It's tantamount tp applying a sticking plaster when a triple bypass is needed.

[Wade Garrett]

4 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

And yet if you'd run a poll the majority would have felt that the appointment of Still was alright. Personally I wanted Rohl and said so at the time but Still did look like a reasonable option. I thought with all the new players that we'd be able to shed some of the mentality of last year. I'm not sure how we haven't been able to.

Nope, thought it was a ridiculous appointment at the time and I wasn’t alone.

[hypochondriac]

1 minute ago, Wade Garrett said:

Nope, thought it was a ridiculous appointment at the time and I wasn’t alone.

Well done. You were in the minority clearly. That wasn't the consensus of opinion when he was appointed. Regardless, even the most pessimistic of posters wouldn't have imagined it would have gone as badly as it has.

Edited 15 hours ago by hypochondriac

[Badger]

6 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

And yet if you'd run a poll the majority would have felt that the appointment of Still was alright. Personally I wanted Rohl and said so at the time but Still did look like a reasonable option. I thought with all the new players that we'd be able to shed some of the mentality of last year. I'm not sure how we haven't been able to.

I also wanted Rohl and thought that the obvious route we’d go. Perhaps it was just too obvious, and others (Spors?) just wanted to put his own mark on it, or perhaps it was too difficult to get him out of Sheff Weds.

Leaving aside the decision in the summer, it is even more galling that Rohl was unattached a few weeks ago (last international break) yet we leave Still in place, throwing away some winnable games in the process. 

[Scoobysaint]

I don’t see a way back. The fans won’t change their minds on Still and any sense of loyalty that Still may have felt towards the fans will have gone. He will only be wanting success now so that it’s his way out, not for the club or the fans. I believe that most of the squad and manager would rather not be here but just can’t find a way out. The place is completely toxic. I do think the team and Still deserve all the criticism they are getting but it doesn’t take fans long to turn at a game. We moan about the defensive passing but then groan when an attacking pass goes astray. 

[Wade Garrett]

5 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Well done. You were in the minority clearly. That wasn't the consensus of opinion when he was appointed. Regardless, even the most pessimistic of posters wouldn't have imagined it would have gone as badly as it has.

Well done?  Twat.

[egg]

3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Well done. You were in the minority clearly. That wasn't the consensus of opinion when he was appointed. Regardless, even the most pessimistic of posters wouldn't have imagined it would have gone as badly as it has.

I'm not sure about that. I think most people didn't know anything about this bloke and thought it was a brave appointment. Most also wanted a manager with experience in this league. 

Regardless, he's been awful and needs replacing asap. 

[AlexLaw76]

Logged in after having fish and chips expecting the corner flag

 

WTF

[Saint86]

23 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Sean dyche would have been ideal. Failing that we need some proper championship experience at getting teams out of a hole. Carrick would just be another gamble imo. Someone like warnock if he isn't too old would be perfect in the short term.

Hypo, i really don't get why you think Dyche would have dropped down to saints - he's been appointed at a european club with a cracking squad of players.

[hypochondriac]

3 minutes ago, Scoobysaint said:

I don’t see a way back. The fans won’t change their minds on Still and any sense of loyalty that Still may have felt towards the fans will have gone. He will only be wanting success now so that it’s his way out, not for the club or the fans. I believe that most of the squad and manager would rather not be here but just can’t find a way out. The place is completely toxic. I do think the team and Still deserve all the criticism they are getting but it doesn’t take fans long to turn at a game. We moan about the defensive passing but then groan when an attacking pass goes astray. 

Fice at the back today after everything this week and no changes to pace or style of play has made it definitive for me. Like you say there's no way back which is why he will go.

[stknowle]

56 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said:

I want someone who the players would absolutely dread because he'd make them work hard.

What must Roy Keane be thinking about his future son-in-law? Embarrassment surely

You’d like to think this would work but I’m just not sure anymore in this pathetic snowflake generation we are living in. Give someone a bollocking these days and you’re more likely to find yourself in front of a tribunal for damaging their mental health than get a positive reaction out of them. 

Edited 14 hours ago by stknowle

[hypochondriac]

Just now, Saint86 said:

Hypo, i really don't get why you think Dyche would have dropped down to saints - he's been appointed at a european club with a cracking squad of players.

I'm not sure I said he would have dropped down to saints.

[Willo of Whiteley]

I think if we’d played four at the back and attacked and lost you’d be pissed off but could see they were having a go.

Ive got two pages open, reading through the match thread having been at work; and once again he’s brought it all on himself, shit tactics and negative football.

Caught the tail end of his interview on Solent, he sounds like a guy who knows his time is running out and fast, but also alluded that there’s a lot that needs to change at the club.

[Saint86]

1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

I'm not sure I said he would have dropped down to saints.

Well, i took that as implied by the fact you're considering him as an ideal managerial target for us😅

Edited 15 hours ago by Saint86

[Farmer Saint]

1 minute ago, Saint86 said:

Well, i took that as implied by the fact you're considering him as an ideal managerial target for us😅

Yeah, no chance we were getting Dyche (not saying that was what you were saying @hypochondriac).

[LGTL]

Staggered he hasn’t gone yet. He has zero credit in the bank, not a thing. What the fuck are we waiting for?

[hypochondriac]

5 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

Well, i took that as implied by the fact you're considering him as an ideal managerial target for us😅

I was saying I think Dyche or a manager like him would have been great for the position we are in. I certainly don't think he would have come here or that we would have persuaded hi.to step down from the prem.

[saintant]

1 minute ago, LGTL said:

Staggered he hasn’t gone yet. He has zero credit in the bank, not a thing. What the fuck are we waiting for?

Unfortunately we are waiting for a decision to be made by Sports Fucking Republic and we know how incompetent they are.

[hypochondriac]

2 minutes ago, LGTL said:

Staggered he hasn’t gone yet. He has zero credit in the bank, not a thing. What the fuck are we waiting for?

Doesn't really matter if they do tomorrow or Monday. The main thing is that he goes (and Lallana) and we get some fresh ideas and a new setup.

[trousers]

On 24/05/2025 at 22:02, trousers said:

Can I have 5th November and Fabrice29 in the "well there's a surprise - he's not as good as Martin, is he?" sweepstake?

#moveon

#itsonlybanter

Only 4 days to go...

[Badger]

1 minute ago, LGTL said:

Staggered he hasn’t gone yet. He has zero credit in the bank, not a thing. What the fuck are we waiting for?

We don’t make quick and kneejerk decisions. Those making the decisions go home, twiddle their thumbs, bit of naval gazing, and possibly have a wank in the bath.
They’ll then sleep on it so as not to make any rash decisions. Tomorrow they’ll find some other distractions. Eventually they’ll decide to give him the next transfer window and park any decision. 

[Wade Garrett]

3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Doesn't really matter if they do tomorrow or Monday. The main thing is that he goes (and Lallana) and we get some fresh ideas and a new setup.

True, but we do have a game on Wednesday.  Better to be decisive and get someone in quickly.  Please not another caretaker situation.

[Verbal]

If anyone understands the reverse psychology of pessimism, I guarantee there won't be any managerial change until December. 

[Osvaldorama]

2 hours ago, It's There said:

Alladyce or Warnock - experience to steady the ship- perhaps Pullis...

Never thought I’d say this, but I agree 100%. Would snap your hand off if we could convince any of these to join. 
 

We need someone that actually understands the basics of football. 

[Lord Duckhunter]

Sounded like a petulant teenager that had  his play station taken off him in that interview. Fucking baby.
 

And Blackmore soft soaping him with “recruitment” pony. I’d have asked him why he doesn’t play his “favourite formation”, why good championship players we’ve signed are fucking shite under him, why hasn’t he played Aribo, does he think he’s lost the dressing room, is he under performing, and finally, why does he keep getting out thought by other managers…

Edited 15 hours ago by Lord Duckhunter

[Willo of Whiteley]

14 minutes ago, saintant said:

Unfortunately we are waiting for a decision to be made by Sports Fucking Republic and we know how incompetent they are.

That’s my biggest concern, if he goes they’re 100% bringing in someone “edgy” and underwhelming.

[Saint NL]

The match ended 2.5 hours ago and this clown hasn't been fired yet. 

Come on ffs

[Ekelund]

10 minutes ago, Verbal said:

If anyone understands the reverse psychology of pessimism, I guarantee there won't be any managerial change until December. 

Some superior guy you 🫡

[hypochondriac]

Still 

Rusk 

Juric 

Selles 

Jones 

Wilkins 

Wotte 

Poortvliet 

Gorman 

Bassett 

Wigley 

Sturrock 

Who was worse?

[disconnect]

2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Still 

Rusk 

Juric 

Selles 

Jones 

Wilkins 

Wotte 

Poortvliet 

Gorman 

Bassett 

Wigley 

Sturrock 

Who was worse?

Based on the squad and the teams we’re facing with that squad, Still is definitely doing the worst.

[Gloucester Saint]

Even my beer knows it 

 

[Badger]

4 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Even my beer knows it 

 

Over Farm Market ? Been out collecting your pumpkin have you ? 

[Lighthouse]

2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Still 

Rusk 

Juric 

Selles 

Jones 

Wilkins 

Wotte 

Poortvliet 

Gorman 

Bassett 

Wigley 

Sturrock 

Who was worse?

Still, by far, and that’s not just recency bias.

Rusk, Selles, Bassett, Gorman, Wilkins and Wigley were basically caretakers when plan A (and sometimes B) failed. They were never really proper managers and just filling a gap out of necessity.

Wotte, Portaloo, Juric, and Martin all got sacked after basically doing all that an awful squad was capable of. That 2009 team was never going to do anything other than get relegated, we were broke and last season we were doomed to finish bottom from the day the transfer window closed. Jones was a massive downgrade on Ralph and clearly an absurd appointment but even his harshest critic would accept that squad was pretty damn dreadful.

Sturrock actually had an alright record here and was also shafted by poor recruitment (what’s Aledine Yahia up to these days?)

That leaves Still. The man who had a squad tailored to his own style of football, spending money in the Championship that Ralph could only dream of in the PL, and has managed to put out a team which is so utterly abysmal on so many levels.

 

[EBS1980]

We sign Fellows an Azaz who for past two seasons have scored and assisted for fun in this league. Yet we mange to find a way to not play to their strengths. 0 goals and 0 assists 

[Eagle778]

24 minutes ago, Saint NL said:

The match ended 2.5 hours ago and this clown hasn't been fired yet. 

Come on ffs

They won’t sack him for the moment.

[Saint86]

At least we've had our last Will Still game. Now to get someone in who won't take any shite, will command respect, and instil some meaningful standards on this squad.

And ffs, please would someone sell the likes of Downes and THB in January if they don't want to be here. If they can rediscover some commitment and hunger then fair enough, but if not then move them on!!!

[Saint_clark]

52 minutes ago, Scoobysaint said:

I don’t see a way back. The fans won’t change their minds on Still and any sense of loyalty that Still may have felt towards the fans will have gone. He will only be wanting success now so that it’s his way out, not for the club or the fans. I believe that most of the squad and manager would rather not be here but just can’t find a way out. The place is completely toxic. I do think the team and Still deserve all the criticism they are getting but it doesn’t take fans long to turn at a game. We moan about the defensive passing but then groan when an attacking pass goes astray. 

Of course the fans will change their minds, IF results change. Sadly the players don't give a fuck what happens to the club or him so that's unlikely to happen, but do you really think the fan base would still want him gone if we turned round and got 8 wins in 10 games or something? 

[Dark Munster]

24 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Still 

Rusk 

Juric 

Selles 

Jones 

Wilkins 

Wotte 

Poortvliet 

Gorman 

Bassett 

Wigley 

Sturrock 

Who was worse?

Saggy.

W. Still running him a very close second, though.

[Gloucester Saint]

1 minute ago, Eagle778 said:

They won’t sack him for the moment.

It’ll turn more toxic than the accident pile at Sellafield at QPR if he’s inexplicably still in charge and that includes what is aimed at SR.

[Crab Lungs]

1 minute ago, Eagle778 said:

They won’t sack him for the moment.

What more evidence do they need?!

Anyone on here who’s been in a management position knows you ‘lead’ and ‘manage’ your team to your goals. There is zero belief in those players that they are being ‘led’ at the moment, zero.

[hypochondriac]

3 minutes ago, Dark Munster said:

Saggy.

W. Still running him a very close second, though.

I didn't include him because I assumed he would be bottom. Still is crap but I don't think he's actively trying to harm the club.

[Farmer Saint]

Has he been sacked yet? He needs to fuck off.

[CB Fry]

There are people on here who still think he needs two or three years right? Because chopping and changing never works.

 

[Farmer Saint]

Just now, CB Fry said:

There are people on here who still think he needs two or three years right? Because chopping and changing never works.

 

There can't be many left TBF.

[Gloucester Saint]

2 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

There are people on here who still think he needs two or three years right? Because chopping and changing never works.

 

They should tell that to Cheltenham Town fans. Knocked out top of L1 Bradford City in the FA Cup and 13 out of 15 points in a league they were well adrift at the bottom of.

Edited 14 hours ago by Gloucester Saint

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, hypochondriac said:

And yet if you'd run a poll the majority would have felt that the appointment of Still was alright. Personally I wanted Rohl and said so at the time but Still did look like a reasonable option. I thought with all the new players that we'd be able to shed some of the mentality of last year. I'm not sure how we haven't been able to.

The first few pages of this thread are all positive. I include myself in that. he came here with a reputation and was regarded as one of the best young coaches in Europe. Yet you watch games and think this can’t be it, but it seems like it is. The only thing I can think of that explain how terrible he’s been is he is being told he has to play a certain way because it just doesn’t make any sense how bad it is given the players we’ve got and the reputation he has.

[Willo of Whiteley]

Ole Gunner Solskjaer

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, egg said:

I'm not sure about that. I think most people didn't know anything about this bloke and thought it was a brave appointment. Most also wanted a manager with experience in this league. 

Regardless, he's been awful and needs replacing asap. 

My preferred choice was Steve Cooper, if you read the first few pages of this thread the reactions were mainly very positive. It’s really hard to understand how someone with such a reputation has been so completely terrible 

[CB Fry]

5 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

They should tell that to Cheltenham Town fans. Knocked out top of L1 Bradford City in the FA Cup and 13 out of 15 points in a league they were well adrift at the bottom of.

They will build a statue of Steve Cotterill in that town for sure. Absolute legend 

[Saint86]

6 minutes ago, Turkish said:

The first few pages of this thread are all positive. I include myself in that. he came here with a reputation and was regarded as one of the best young coaches in Europe. Yet you watch games and think this can’t be it, but it seems like it is. The only thing I can think of that explain how terrible he’s been is he is being told he has to play a certain way because it just doesn’t make any sense how bad it is given the players we’ve got and the reputation he has.

It really is odd how its all turned out. I think the job was just to big for him at such an inexperienced time of his career. I suspect we have some players from the Martin/Prem era that are mentally finished frankly - reading the comments from the new boys.

Edited 14 hours ago by Saint86