Will Still Poll - Keep or Replace?

[whelk]

I know very early but yesterday was woeful and. seems like could be out of his depth so should we pull the plug now?

Edited 3 hours ago by whelk
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[Toussaint]

I think the problems run much deeper than Still, so unless we hire somebody with the necessary cojones to manage the team his way, which we definitely won’t, we won’t see any improvement.
 

I am getting the impression he doesn’t have that much autonomy, little input into signings, possibly meddling from above with selections and maybe even the “playing style”.

its the ownership that needs to be changed, back to basics. Let proper football people run the football and accountants count the beans. SR ridiculously over complicate everything and need to go. 
 

I have a feeling that we are perceived as a bit of a joke within the game.

[egg]

Just now, Toussaint said:

I think the problems run much deeper than Still, so unless we hire somebody with the necessary cojones to manage the team his way, which we definitely won’t, we won’t see any improvement.
 

I am getting the impression he doesn’t have that much autonomy, little input into signings, possibly meddling from above with selections and maybe even the “playing style”.

its the ownership that needs to be changed, back to basics. Let proper football people run the football and accountants count the beans. SR ridiculously over complicate everything and need to go. 
 

I have a feeling that we are perceived as a bit of a joke within the game.

I'm not sure there's any evidence of meddling from upstairs. I don't buy that. 

I'm more concerned about a lack of authority and leadership than autonomy, a lack of experience meaning a lack of real world tactical nous and competence. 

[Sheaf Saint]

He may well go on to become a decent manager one day, given his age and the fact that he has time on his side.

But it's starting to become obvious that he is the wrong man for us at this moment in time. Yet another in a long line of failed SR experiments.

I don't think we can afford to give him any more time if we're serious about mounting a promotion challenge this season. It might well 'click' for him at some point. But by the time it does it will be far too late for us to salvage the season.

The only problem with getting rid now is that I have absolutely zero confidence in the ability of anyone within SR to identify the right replacement. 

[Toussaint]

Just now, egg said:

I'm not sure there's any evidence of meddling from upstairs. I don't buy that. 

I'm more concerned about a lack of authority and leadership than autonomy, a lack of experience meaning a lack of real world tactical nous and competence. 

I don’t think you’ll find evidence, and it’s just a sense of things, not a statement of fact. I cannot find any other explanation for playing Downs yesterday. 

As for your concerns, I totally agree, but again I refer back to the twats calling the shots above him. I didn’t that “William Still the Younger” was ever, ever, the right appointment. Do you trust them to get it right next time?

[Turkish]

And they’ll replace him with another hipster manager and end up paying another contract off

Still has this reputation as being one of Europe’s most promising managers, this simply cannot be it because at the moment we look absolutely shit and he looks clueless 

My concern when we hired Still was regardless of how good he is tactically this is a club in free fall and we need a big character to come in and galvanise us. We need someone with experience to lift the club. We haven’t got that and it appears so far we haven’t even got the stuff he’s meant to be good at

[trousers]

8 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

The only problem with getting rid now is that I have absolutely zero confidence in the ability of anyone within SR to identify the right replacement. 

This ☝🏻

The 'replace' option needs to be split into two...

- Replace with someone of the same ilk (i.e. what Sport Republic would do)

- Replace with someone with the required experience and necessary gravitas (i.e. what Sport Republic wouldn't do)

In other words, there's little point voting for 'Replace' given we'd end up in the same boat under Sport Republic. 

We need a change of ownership. Pure and simple. 

Edited 2 hours ago by trousers

[IFHP]

A lot depends on what the fans expectation are for Still and the team this season .

Mount a serious play offs challenge.

A season of mid table consolidation.

Avoid relegation.

For myself I think we should be looking to mount a play offs challenge, not necessarily get in them but at least finish within 3 points of 6 th place.

I’ve seen nothing to suggest under Still we will achieve that so we get rid now, the problem is that Dragan and co will just appoint another dud . We are quickly becoming another Watford and having 2 managers a season. All because Dragan and gang do not seem to have a clue. 

if the aim is to have a season of consolidation and mount a play offs challenge challenging next season, then I’d still get rid but again we’ll just appoint another dud. 

If fans are happy to just bobble around lower mid table avoiding relegation then you might as well keep him . 

[badgerx16]

Give him a free pass on the Scousers match and then see how the next 2 games go; at home to the team at the top of the table, then away to the team at the bottom. If we actually show some gumption, and find a way to win both then I think he should stay, and assess again at the end of November, ( assuming it doesn't all go tits up in October ). Fail to beat Sheff Utd then he must go, but I have no faith in the Board.

[Toussaint]

9 minutes ago, IFHP said:

A lot depends on what the fans expectation are for Still and the team this season .

Mount a serious play offs challenge.

A season of mid table consolidation.

Avoid relegation.

For myself I think we should be looking to mount a play offs challenge, not necessarily get in them but at least finish within 3 points of 6 th place.

I’ve seen nothing to suggest under Still we will achieve that so we get rid now, the problem is that Dragan and co will just appoint another dud . We are quickly becoming another Watford and having 2 managers a season. All because Dragan and gang do not seem to have a clue. 

if the aim is to have a season of consolidation and mount a play offs challenge challenging next season, then I’d still get rid but again we’ll just appoint another dud. 

If fans are happy to just bobble around lower mid table avoiding relegation then you might as well keep him . 

Watford, I didn’t think of that comparison, but you are right

[Pamplemousse]

Something has to change and very quickly. Happy to give WS a chance but given that we signed the attacking players he wanted, things can't go on for too much longer without improvement on the pitch, because at the moment we are miles off it everywhere.

[Badger]

Yes, he needs more time. But probably about five years to build up credibility in the English game. 
 

Poor appointment at the time, remains a poor option now. 
 

But as several have said, little confidence in SR getting it right. 

[egg]

20 minutes ago, Turkish said:

And they’ll replace him with another hipster manager and end up paying another contract off

Still has this reputation as being one of Europe’s most promising managers, this simply cannot be it because at the moment we look absolutely shit and he looks clueless 

My concern when we hired Still was regardless of how good he is tactically this is a club in free fall and we need a big character to come in and galvanise us. We need someone with experience to lift the club. We haven’t got that and it appears so far we haven’t even got the stuff he’s meant to be good at

Absolutely this. Proven experience brings gravitas, which gives authority and proper leadership. No manager has has that this early in their career. 

To put it another way, this job feels too much too soon, and what we need is exactly what you've said. 

[Badger]

16 minutes ago, IFHP said:

A lot depends on what the fans expectation are for Still and the team this season .

Mount a serious play offs challenge.

A season of mid table consolidation.

Avoid relegation.

For myself I think we should be looking to mount a play offs challenge, not necessarily get in them but at least finish within 3 points of 6 th place.

I’ve seen nothing to suggest under Still we will achieve that so we get rid now, the problem is that Dragan and co will just appoint another dud . We are quickly becoming another Watford and having 2 managers a season. All because Dragan and gang do not seem to have a clue. 

if the aim is to have a season of consolidation and mount a play offs challenge challenging next season, then I’d still get rid but again we’ll just appoint another dud. 

If fans are happy to just bobble around lower mid table avoiding relegation then you might as well keep him . 

In six games we’ve gone from ambition of automatic promotion with the likelihood of an expensively assembled to squad to just mounting a challenge to get into the play-offs. That’s quite an achievement in a short space of time 

[CB Fry]

18 minutes ago, IFHP said:

For myself I think we should be looking to mount a play offs challenge, not necessarily get in them but at least finish within 3 points of 6 th place.

With the investment in players and wages that we have put through this is an insanely low expectation.

If you don’t think we should be anywhere near the promotion places this season then you basically think we can never hope to be promoted again because we won't have better resources than now for any other future season.

Edited 2 hours ago by CB Fry

[Willo of Whiteley]

What’s Ralph Hassenhutl doing nowadays? 👀

[gio1saints]

I think there’s been too many players failing to have positive impact over the league games played to date to start on the manager. Especially supposed big name players. The two new players who are mentioned to be the best in the league have done sweet fa since they been here for example. Nothing. 

Damion Downs: failure to impact 

Adam Armstrong : failure to impact 

Cameron Archer : failure to impact 

Flynn Downes : failure to impact 

THB : failure to impact 

Azaz : failure to impact 

Fellowes : failure to impact 

Mads: failure to impact 

Bazunu : failure to impact. 

Casper: failure to impact 

RossStewart : failure to impact 

Stephens : failure to impact 

JoshuaQuarsie: failure to impact 

Charles : failure to impact 
 

The only players who get let off are Fraser and Manning. Those two can say they have impacted games positively. The other have either been anonymous, very average or basically a waste of space. 
 

If only two of your squad are doing the lifting you are not going to get anything done. Players need to step up before people start crucifying the Manager. 

[Harry_SFC]

I think he needs a bit more time but things needs to improve pretty quickly. It may be a different answer come the next international break.

If we were playing well and being unlucky then I'd sympathise a bit more but we just don't look very good at the moment and arguably performances are getting worse. 

Having said that and as others have mentioned, Still certainly isn't biggest issue at this football club.

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Harry_SFC

[egg]

5 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

What’s Ralph Hassenhutl doing nowadays? 👀

Ha...but...imagine how that Pompey game would have gone with a Ralph team pressing and counter pressing... imagine yesterday with their lads being pressed and closed down so that couldn't ping balls into the box.

Fortunately we don't need Ralph to be set up to do those basics. But we do need a manager capable of doing it. 

[Osvaldorama]

If I evaluate how it’s going as objectively as I can…:

-He wasted pre-season. 
- Has no idea what his best team his. 
- His subs are all panicky and abysmal - he just throws 4 players on at once. 
-Set pieces are awful

- Defence is awful 

- Attack is awful

- Midfield is awful 

 

Yeah. Terrible appointment. Get rid and get an actual football manager in as quickly as possible. 

[Baird of the land]

Think he’ll get a couple more games but Nothing I’ve seen so far even hints at still having anything to offer. So definitely count me in the replace crowd.

[Turkish]

18 minutes ago, egg said:

Absolutely this. Proven experience brings gravitas, which gives authority and proper leadership. No manager has has that this early in their career. 

To put it another way, this job feels too much too soon, and what we need is exactly what you've said. 

do you remember when any mention of an experienced manager was shot down on here by certain people? Still has experience of the top French division, experience doesn’t equal success, etc etc. 

[egg]

I'm in the needs a tiny bit more time camp - until the Derby game, but there's a case to call it now. 

[Saint Fan CaM]

It’s more than Still - it’s mostly the players. I suspect it’s other aspects of the club also in terms of attitude, attention of detail, professionalism, etc. But for me the biggest issue is the players. They’re unfit, largely unable to deliver the basics, devoid of having ‘a fire in their belly’, scared of getting injured and most importantly, incompetent at key tasks in big moments. 

Replacing Still will not solve most of these issues - squad quality has been eroded. It will not stop Bazunu making basic GK errors, it will not stop Manning switching off and not closing down a winger putting in a cross, it will not stop Stephens being an ineffectual Captain, it will not stop THB being awful in the air, it will not stop the midfield go missing or be incapable of transitioning the ball forward, it will not stop our forwards being lazy cnuts with little movement in the final third…etc…etc…etc.

Finally, ask yourself this - if the new summer signings are better than the existing players (they should be) why are at least half of the relegation team players still in place? It’s an indication of the failure once again to replace vital components of the squad with better and/or more competent players…a continual erosion of squad quality until we reach a level befitting of the make-up of the team.

[Toussaint]

3 minutes ago, Turkish said:

do you remember when any mention of an experienced manager was shot down on here by certain people? Still has experience of the top French division, experience doesn’t equal success, etc etc. 

the progressives have far to much to say for themselves in football and every aspect of modern life generally. Yet when the inevitable happens and it all falls apart, they either go into hiding or find the most obscure reason why it should have worked but didn’t, which will always be someone else’s fault.

[egg]

1 minute ago, Turkish said:

do you remember when any mention of an experienced manager was shot down on here by certain people? Still has experience of the top French division, experience doesn’t equal success, etc etc. 

Yep. Proven experience is vastly different to a bit of it. I genuinely think any half decent manager who's been around for a wee while would do much better than this lad. It's embarrassing how badly we've been set up compared to most other teams we've played this season. Pompey's manager showed himself as being far more capable of organising and motivating his team. 

[Lighthouse]

To be talking about sacking anyone after six games, after the massive upheaval in players we’ve had is absolutely silly. It’s frustrating but Still needs time to get what is a superb collection of individuals playing as a team. If we sack him now, the new guy would just be having the same problems.

Just for reference, this was our start to the season after building a new team in 2009, which is very much in line with two years ago, when it also seemed to click in early October.

[hypochondriac]

9 minutes ago, gio1saints said:

I think there’s been too many players failing to have positive impact over the league games played to date to start on the manager. Especially supposed big name players. The two new players who are mentioned to be the best in the league have done sweet fa since they been here for example. Nothing. 

Damion Downs: failure to impact 

Adam Armstrong : failure to impact 

Cameron Archer : failure to impact 

Flynn Downes : failure to impact 

THB : failure to impact 

Azaz : failure to impact 

Fellowes : failure to impact 

Mads: failure to impact 

Bazunu : failure to impact. 

Casper: failure to impact 

RossStewart : failure to impact 

Stephens : failure to impact 

JoshuaQuarsie: failure to impact 

Charles : failure to impact 
 

The only players who get let off are Fraser and Manning. Those two can say they have impacted games positively. The other have either been anonymous, very average or basically a waste of space. 
 

If only two of your squad are doing the lifting you are not going to get anything done. Players need to step up before people start crucifying the Manager. 

Isn't the fact that so many have done much worse than at other clubs points to an issue with the manager? I think the evidence at the moment is that the job is too big for him.

[Chez]

52 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

I don’t think you’ll find evidence, and it’s just a sense of things, not a statement of fact. I cannot find any other explanation for playing Downs yesterday. 

The Derby showed that we needed a more physical target man and a focal point of attack. Playing Archer in that role doesn't work and never will. The choice is then Downes or Stewart. Stills only job is to pick the side. It was his choice and no one else's.

[whelk]

I voted get rid and hard to believe as normally I am far more patient. Just seen literally nothing positive about tactics or game management and substitutions. 

[egg]

3 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

It’s more than Still - it’s mostly the players. I suspect it’s other aspects of the club also in terms of attitude, attention of detail, professionalism, etc. But for me the biggest issue is the players. They’re unfit, largely unable to deliver the basics, devoid of having ‘a fire in their belly’, scared of getting injured and most importantly, incompetent at key tasks in big moments. 

Replacing Still will not solve most of these issues - squad quality has been eroded. It will not stop Bazunu making basic GK errors, it will not stop Manning switching off and not closing down a winger putting in a cross, it will not stop Stephens being an ineffectual Captain, it will not stop THB being awful in the air, it will not stop the midfield go missing or be incapable of transitioning the ball forward, it will not stop our forwards being lazy cnuts with little movement in the final third…etc…etc…etc.

Finally, ask yourself this - if the new summer signings are better than the existing players (they should be) why are at least half of the relegation team players still in place? It’s an indication of the failure once again to replace vital components of the squad with better and/or more competent players…a continual erosion of squad quality until we reach a level befitting of the make-up of the team.

Proper management should address that. I'm not talking about coaching, that's a different issue, although proper coaching should address that. 

People can't keep bleating about issues running through the club as a barrier to progress. That's absolute BS. If there are those issues, again, it's a management issue. Sure, there may be issues beyond the football side, but a decent football manager should focus himself and his players on just the football side. On that front, Still looks pretty inept I have to say. 

 

[Saint Fan CaM]

2 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

To be talking about sacking anyone after six games, after the massive upheaval in players we’ve had is absolutely silly. It’s frustrating but Still needs time to get what is a superb collection of individuals playing as a team. If we sack him now, the new guy would just be having the same problems.

Just for reference, this was our start to the season after building a new team in 2009, which is very much in line with two years ago, when it also seemed to click in early October.

Interesting that your example is from League One - probably on a par with the level of football we’ve been witnessing.

[whelk]

And binning off Robinson has annoyed me

[egg]

Just now, whelk said:

I voted get rid and hard to believe as normally I am far more patient. Just seen literally nothing positive about tactics or game management and substitutions. 

I was close to that but I've abstained because I think now is just slightly premature. I'd give him til the Derby game, but there's some benefit of the doubt in that. 

[obelisk]

Can't see the problem myself. We're well on course to beat the drop.

[Saint Fan CaM]

1 minute ago, egg said:

Proper management should address that. I'm not talking about coaching, that's a different issue, although proper coaching should address that. 

People can't keep bleating about issues running through the club as a barrier to progress. That's absolute BS. If there are those issues, again, it's a management issue. Sure, there may be issues beyond the football side, but a decent football manager should focus himself and his players on just the football side. On that front, Still looks pretty inept I have to say. 

 

You’ve not read what I’ve said - the main issue is with the players or the make-up of the team. If new signings do not improve the team or indeed don’t even get picked because they’re no better than what the Manager has at his disposal is that his fault? If the team are incapable of following instructions is that the Managers fault? It’s far more complex than the ‘sack the Manager’ brigade will have you believe.

[Chez]

1 minute ago, Lighthouse said:

To be talking about sacking anyone after six games, after the massive upheaval in players we’ve had is absolutely silly. It’s frustrating but Still needs time to get what is a superb collection of individuals playing as a team. If we sack him now, the new guy would just be having the same problems.

Just for reference, this was our start to the season after building a new team in 2009, which is very much in line with two years ago, when it also seemed to click in early October.

Totally with you. I saw a little progress yesterday undermined by some horrific defending. That said, Hull were pretty poor though, so I may be giving him too much credit. I'm hoping it's like the Sunderland away game in 2023, which was a terrible performance. He recognises that THB is lightweight, gets Quarshie back in the side and we go from strength to strength....I'm dreaming now aren't I?

[benjii]

7 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

To be talking about sacking anyone after six games, after the massive upheaval in players we’ve had is absolutely silly. It’s frustrating but Still needs time to get what is a superb collection of individuals playing as a team. If we sack him now, the new guy would just be having the same problems.

Just for reference, this was our start to the season after building a new team in 2009, which is very much in line with two years ago, when it also seemed to click in early October.

Completely pointless comparison. That early days squad had the likes of Matt Paterson and Jacob Melis in it and was being built from the Poortvliet/Lowe austerity year, when Kayne McClaggom and Jamie White played. It wasn't one of the strongest squads in the division from Day 1, like ours has been.

 

[Baird of the land]

7 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

To be talking about sacking anyone after six games, after the massive upheaval in players we’ve had is absolutely silly. It’s frustrating but Still needs time to get what is a superb collection of individuals playing as a team. If we sack him now, the new guy would just be having the same problems.

Just for reference, this was our start to the season after building a new team in 2009, which is very much in line with two years ago, when it also seemed to click in early October.

Sorry I don’t see post administration as a applicable comparison.

[saintant]

22 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

I think he needs a bit more time but things needs to improve pretty quickly. It may be a different answer come the next international break.

If we were playing well and being unlucky then I'd sympathise a bit more but we just don't look very good at the moment and arguably performances are getting worse. 

Having said that and as others have mentioned, Still certainly isn't biggest issue at this football club.

 

After my initial anger at the last two inept performances has abated I tend to agree - give him more time. Personally I'm not desperate for us to bounce straight back up to the Premier League as we wouldn't be ready. If Will Still can steady the ship and get us playing some decent football with plenty of wins/draws and we look to be progressing in the right direction let him carry on. However, if nothing changes within say the next 10 games it will be time to admit he's not the guy for us. I think gradual build is the way to go with the overall aim to have a side ready to have another shot at PL football within 3 seasons.

[egg]

4 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

You’ve not read what I’ve said - the main issue is with the players or the make-up of the team. If new signings do not improve the team or indeed don’t even get picked because they’re no better than what the Manager has at his disposal is that his fault? If the team are incapable of following instructions is that the Managers fault? It’s far more complex than the ‘sack the Manager’ brigade will have you believe.

You've not read what I've said. 

If the boss can't get a tune out of the new full backs or wingers that's absolutely on him. It's academic whether they are better than what we had. They are good. 

How the players are organised and set up is 100% on Still and his coaches. Ditto how they are motivated. Ditto how they are managed if they underpeform. Ditto if they don't follow orders. 

It's also on Still how he manages during matches. Not reacting to how the other team is playing and switching things up is 100% on him. Just throwing on random subs without any real change to how we play is all on him.

Stop making excuses for him. 

[Doctoroncall]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

And they’ll replace him with another hipster manager and end up paying another contract off

Still has this reputation as being one of Europe’s most promising managers, this simply cannot be it because at the moment we look absolutely shit and he looks clueless 

My concern when we hired Still was regardless of how good he is tactically this is a club in free fall and we need a big character to come in and galvanise us. We need someone with experience to lift the club. We haven’t got that and it appears so far we haven’t even got the stuff he’s meant to be good at

Benitez is still available and looking to get back into the English game (telegraph interview today). 

[Lighthouse]

6 minutes ago, benjii said:

Completely pointless comparison. That early days squad had the likes of Matt Paterson and Jacob Melis in it and was being built from the Poortvliet/Lowe austerity year, when Kayne McClaggom and Jamie White played. It wasn't one of the strongest squads in the division from Day 1, like ours has been.

We’ve had significant change in the squad towards the end of the transfer window, with the likes of Fellows, Azaz, Leo, Roeslev and Jelert all coming in very recently and players like Fernandes and Dibling leaving. There’s been enough recent change, in personnel and formation, for Still to need time to make it work. Nobody is promising it will happen eventually but it’d be foolish to sack him now.

[Harry_SFC]

1 minute ago, saintant said:

After my initial anger at the last two inept performances has abated I tend to agree - give him more time. Personally I'm not desperate for us to bounce straight back up to the Premier League as we wouldn't be ready. If Will Still can steady the ship and get us playing some decent football with plenty of wins/draws and we look to be progressing in the right direction let him carry on. However, if nothing changes within say the next 10 games it will be time to admit he's not the guy for us. I think gradual build is the way to go with the overall aim to have a side ready to have another shot at PL football within 3 seasons.

I think we'd need new owners if we want to succeed at all in the premier league. I just don't think Dragan has the financial power to be able to compete at all. I certainly can't see us doing what Sunderland have done. 

[benjii]

Just now, Lighthouse said:

We’ve had significant change in the squad towards the end of the transfer window, with the likes of Fellows, Azaz, Leo, Roeslev and Jelert all coming in very recently and players like Fernandes and Dibling leaving. There’s been enough recent change, in personnel and formation, for Still to need time to make it work. Nobody is promising it will happen eventually but it’d be foolish to sack him now.

There was enough quality there already not to be completely shite. There was enough quality there to send a team out to play and announce to SFC fans, "this is what we're about". There was enough quality to be aggressive out of possession. There was enough quality to have a good gameplan. 

[CB Fry]

18 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

To be talking about sacking anyone after six games, after the massive upheaval in players we’ve had is absolutely silly. It’s frustrating but Still needs time to get what is a superb collection of individuals playing as a team. If we sack him now, the new guy would just be having the same problems.

Just for reference, this was our start to the season after building a new team in 2009, which is very much in line with two years ago, when it also seemed to click in early October.

100% agree with you that we should have appointed an experienced manager with gravitas and authority built from managing at a significantly higher level.

[gio1saints]

16 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Isn't the fact that so many have done much worse than at other clubs points to an issue with the manager? I think the evidence at the moment is that the job is too big for him.

That’s one way of looking at it - that supports your pov. 
I personally think it’s harsh on Still to support his dismissal when so many players that supposedly are good enough simply have played badly.
 

When so many of the goals we have conceded were preventable and have clearly frustrated him. We have conceded one great free kick but the rest have been pretty rubbish. Does it absolutely mean he’s made them worse? Cannot agree that it’s a definitive as you feel. 

[stfrancisofbenali]

No self-respecting club replaces a new manager after only six games, especially a kid who’s so new to the game. You might have thought we’d have learnt our lesson about the good that comes from chopping and changing managers. He needs to change the mentality and results pretty quickly though so let’s see what he’s made of. 

[beatlesaint]

You cant replace him yet, thats ridiculous. 

BUT, he will need time to adapt to not only the Championship but managing in England. The French league is nothing like ours.

I do wonder if the club have privately told him Year One is bedding in and building the team (play-offs would be a bonus) then Year Two promotion is a must or goodnight and thanks pal.

[east-stand-nic]

Unpopular opinion I suspect but for me, he is going to get sacked sooner or later and for me it is crystal clear he is out of his depth tactically. If we wait for another 4 or 5 games, we will be literally no better off. He has to go now. SR need to accept they got it wrong again, listen and hire someone with proven Championship experience. Bookmarked for 4 or 5 games time. 

Edited 1 hour ago by east-stand-nic