New Manager Debate

[RedArmy]

31 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

 

I was naive enough to think they would have someone in place in this week 1 of the break. I should have known better.

They do. They just don’t have the bottle to actually confirm it because they know the fans don’t want it. 
 

They want him to get a win or 2 more and then the fans might be on board. 
 

You can fucking guarantee they don’t have a plan B if we get beat and by then other vacancies will have been filled by the managers we could have had anyway. 
 

Clowns. 

[Turkish]

11 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

All these PR pieces in the echo and on social media are nauseating and obviously planted by the club. Just pathetic.

It’s hilariously predictable though isn’t it. 
 

What a club!

[Dr. Kucho]

23 hours ago, Nolan said:

I knew it would make for interesting discussion. 

I have zero idea if it bears any relationship with reality, but international breaks are dull.

Well Nolan, it’s seems like your source might be on to something according to tweets by Blackmore. I thought it sounded to daft to be true but Sports Republic seem to be doing it all over again. 

[Turkish]

6 minutes ago, RedArmy said:

They do. They just don’t have the bottle to actually confirm it because they know the fans don’t want it. 
 

They want him to get a win or 2 more and then the fans might be on board. 
 

You can fucking guarantee they don’t have a plan B if we get beat and by then other vacancies will have been filled by the managers we could have had anyway. 
 

Clowns. 

100% win percentage 

never lost a game as a manager 

Across a season we’d score 115 goals at the current rate 

what more do you want!

[Thripp87]

Tonda has won 2 out of 2.

Yes it’s a gamble, but so is trusting Sports Republic to appoint someone currently not in the set up. We know they will balls that up and it will be another manager to pay off.

I am more than happy to see Tomda given a chance. Out of the names being listed he is no worse.

Carrick - achieved nothing at Boro. Rob Edward’s outperformed him in 3 months.

Martin - complete no hoper who is to blame for the mess we are in now.

O Neil - no chance to appoint him, a couple of bad results and toxicity would be through the roof.

Rogers - unrealistic.

[Dr. Kucho]

52 minutes ago, LGTL said:

I was told weeks and weeks ago that Eckert was the long term replacement for Still. Long before he was sacked. Unfortunately, I think I was the first person to mention his name on the manager thread after putting two and two together and lo and behold, look what’s about to transpire.

That’s always been an absolute fact. They expected Still to get poached by a bigger club in 2 or 3 years (lol) and had a ready made replacement in Eckert. This is 100% completely and utterly Spors man. He is desperate to appoint him and it’s no coincidence that House, Blackmore et al are starting to send out the propaganda. I can’t see a way in which he doesn’t get appointed. 

If Spors rates Eckert and thinks he has it to be a top class manager it makes sense to have him on board. But he’s inexperienced and putting him in charge could seriously damage his career. They should not forget the state of the club, the bloated squad, the player power and so on.

We need an experienced manager with a strong character who won’t take shit from sulking players. 

[AlexLaw76]

2 minutes ago, Thripp87 said:

Tonda has won 2 out of 2.

Yes it’s a gamble, but so is trusting Sports Republic to appoint someone currently not in the set up. We know they will balls that up and it will be another manager to pay off.

I am more than happy to see Tomda given a chance. Out of the names being listed he is no worse.

Carrick - achieved nothing at Boro. Rob Edward’s outperformed him in 3 months.

Martin - complete no hoper who is to blame for the mess we are in now.

O Neil - no chance to appoint him, a couple of bad results and toxicity would be through the roof.

Rogers - unrealistic.

Carrick v Eckart...hmmmm, hard one

[Golac's Cunning Stunts]

7 minutes ago, Thripp87 said:

Tonda has won 2 out of 2.

Yes it’s a gamble, but so is trusting Sports Republic to appoint someone currently not in the set up. We know they will balls that up and it will be another manager to pay off.

I am more than happy to see Tomda given a chance. Out of the names being listed he is no worse.

Carrick - achieved nothing at Boro. Rob Edward’s outperformed him in 3 months.

Martin - complete no hoper who is to blame for the mess we are in now.

O Neil - no chance to appoint him, a couple of bad results and toxicity would be through the roof.

Rogers - unrealistic.

An unproven, fragile young manager with next to no experience is exactly what we don't need at this present time. Captain Jack, Downes, THB and the rest of the merry band of pirates will eat him alive

[Farmer Saint]

1 hour ago, CB Fry said:

Give him the job permanently then, if he's a such a good option. Commit.

Bimbling about giving a manager maybe-two-more-games-or-maybe-three-more-games-or-until-we-lose-and-then-panic is no way to run a promotion campaign for one of the richest clubs in the division.

I was naive enough to think they would have someone in place in this week 1 of the break. I should have known better.

 

1 hour ago, saintant said:

Well he's younger than Will Still and from what I can gather he's also never played football professionally. He's far less experienced than Still at management yet, because he's scraped a couple of wins, we are expected to meekly submit as SR make an even worse decision than their last one. We were told Still wouldn't work because his lack of a playing career would mean our little wallflowers wouldn't respect him and here we have someone who will be in the same boat. If it happens it's madness.

I'm certainly not saying I want him, but it may be a case that the Board are not impressed with anyone who has interviewed yet - to be honest looking at the realistic names they all look extremely underwhelming. The best option is probably RM, and he's not a good option.

This buys us time for further sackings etc to take place.

Edited 1 hour ago by Farmer Saint

[LuckyNumber7]

Bit of a crazy overreaction to a tweet from Alex Crook of all people. 

I certainly don't want Tonda to get the job full time but I have no problem with keeping him in interim charge for a bit longer. Fact is there are no outstanding candidates out there at the moment so whoever they appointed would probably be a bit meh and not unite the fanbase. 

There will no doubt be plenty of managerial movement in the next few weeks, so why not hold fire and see if some more desirable candidates become available? 

It's clear TE was being groomed to be Still's long term replacement but it's not the right time to give him the job currently and I suspect they realise that, regardless of how highly they rate him. 

[Thripp87]

9 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Carrick v Eckart...hmmmm, hard one

Expect you are in the deluded camp that still think we can go up. This season is pointless. See how he does.

Remind me, what has Carrick achieved as a manager?

[hypochondriac]

Edit: double post.

Edited 1 hour ago by hypochondriac

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, Thripp87 said:

Expect you are in the deluded camp that still think we can go up. This season is pointless. See how he does.

Remind me, what has Carrick achieved as a manager?

I think we have a good shout at the Playoffs, with the right manager.

Carrick has achieved significantly more than the young lad we seem to be shoe-horning into the job

[Farmer Saint]

1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said:

I think we have a good shout at the Playoffs, with the right manager.

Carrick has achieved significantly more than the young lad we seem to be shoe-horning into the job

Has Carrick interviewed, and is he interested? Considering he did an extremely middling job with Boro I'm not sure he's a great option. I thought I might like him at first but looked into it and Boro fans don't rate him.

Edited 1 hour ago by Farmer Saint

[stknowle]

15 minutes ago, Thripp87 said:

Tonda has won 2 out of 2.

Yes it’s a gamble, but so is trusting Sports Republic to appoint someone currently not in the set up. We know they will balls that up and it will be another manager to pay off.

I am more than happy to see Tomda given a chance. Out of the names being listed he is no worse.

Carrick - achieved nothing at Boro. Rob Edward’s outperformed him in 3 months.

Martin - complete no hoper who is to blame for the mess we are in now.

O Neil - no chance to appoint him, a couple of bad results and toxicity would be through the roof.

Rogers - unrealistic.

Just no.

[hypochondriac]

25 minutes ago, Turkish said:

It’s hilariously predictable though isn’t it. 
 

What a club!

It's the modern equivalent of Lowe sending his PR company onto this forum. Insulting to the fans quite frankly. One of the echo reporters was saying that we are in safe hands with Eckert! Based on what evidence? Wasting what remains of this season, panicking, hiring a new person and then firing them at the end of the season giving whoever they appoint after that less time to go for promotion next year is what is likely to happen.

[Dr Who?]

So in other words, we do not have anyone who wants to come to us. That’s how I read it. None of the managers that have been bounded about are going to wait, so we can see how the next 3 go! It’s all very Sports Replublic non commital crap! Give it it to him now or appoint elsewhere. Have some flipping backbone! 

Give it the next 3 games, but if they do not go well, then what? We are back looking with the names bounded about in employment already? 

It’s all a shambles, they do not have a clue. Well at least it saves me money on the build up to Christmas, as I will not be spending any money on tickets for this lot! I’ve had enough. 

divverimg, clueless idiots! 

[hypochondriac]

19 minutes ago, Thripp87 said:

Tonda has won 2 out of 2.

Yes it’s a gamble, but so is trusting Sports Republic to appoint someone currently not in the set up. We know they will balls that up and it will be another manager to pay off.

I am more than happy to see Tomda given a chance. Out of the names being listed he is no worse.

Carrick - achieved nothing at Boro. Rob Edward’s outperformed him in 3 months.

Martin - complete no hoper who is to blame for the mess we are in now.

O Neil - no chance to appoint him, a couple of bad results and toxicity would be through the roof.

Rogers - unrealistic.

Looks like the club employs some twin PR. We've got drip feeding to the echo, talksport and Blackmore and now they're activating their sleeper cells on here. Is 87 the amount of commission you charge per shill?

Edited 1 hour ago by hypochondriac

[Miltonaggro]

1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

Looks like the club employs some twin PR. We've got drip feeding to the echo, talksport and Blackmore and now they're activating their sleeper cells on here.

Yes, noticed that the fluffers were coming out of the woodwork. 

[O_Lord_Marian]

Another SR project experiment doomed to fail.

Sure as night follows day.

 

[Dr Who?]

9 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

Has Carrick interviewed, and is he interested? Considering he did an extremely middling job with Boro I'm not sure he's a great option. I thought I might like him at first but looked into it and Boro fans don't rate him.

Well we don’t bloody know who has interviewed, but it it down to the club to find the right replacement. This will be someone who has experience in the Championship. We (are) were one of if not the favourites to go up this season, we have parachute payments and have the opportunity to make this work, and still do, but wastes another 3 games with the current set up, and then having to start looking for a new manager, and it is looking more likely we will be writing this season off! If they believe him him (I do not) them hire him full time first team manager now! If we get to next season we will have one shot of parachute left, and then we are in the same boat as all the other ex prem teams and it will get harder and harder! 

[Sergei Gotsmanov]

If we are struggling to attract a manager in a more conventional way I would propose putting a structure together with Romeu, Ward Prowse and Lallana. They all love our club, have enough status to generate respect within the dressing room and are intelligent. Romeu and Lallana have played under some very high brow coaching set ups.

[pingpong]

Seems like a fair bit of competition for managers, and only low quality available.  We're in a good position to hold steady with tonda and see if the landscape improves in December January.  Middlesbrough more attractive than us right now.

Waiting to see who gets sacked from the top leagues over the next couple of months is a valid strategy.

 

[Dr Who?]

I think it is time to start looking at a fan take over of the club. Well maybe not, but something needs to change. We are on rinse and repeat! I’m going mad Ted! 

[Katalinic]

12 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

It's the modern equivalent of Lowe sending his PR company onto this forum.

I see Manji was on earlier, wasn't he a Lowe free ticket cheerleader? Assumed he was saintsweb equivalent of the Japanese bloke in the jungle who hadn't realised the war had finished, but actually appears to be championing Sport Republic these days. Funny that.

[Dr Who?]

Right, as some have lost the plot or are plants on the forum at the moment, I’m out of here until it calms down a bit. 

The club have failed again and the owners need removing! 

[Saint86]

36 minutes ago, Turkish said:

It’s hilariously predictable though isn’t it. 
 

What a club!

We have an incredibly weak board. They're truly awful. Feels like so many major decisions are influenced by fan unrest or sentiment. No way to run a football club really.

[SfcPhil]

On 03/11/2025 at 22:13, SfcPhil said:

I wouldn't be surprised if Tonda Eckert gets the job if we win the next two games (we won't).

We did And he seemingly is, unless we lose the next three.

[Mboto Gorge]

5 minutes ago, pingpong said:

Seems like a fair bit of competition for managers, and only low quality available.  We're in a good position to hold steady with tonda and see if the landscape improves in December January.  Middlesbrough more attractive than us right now.

Waiting to see who gets sacked from the top leagues over the next couple of months is a valid strategy.

 

Jesus Christ 

[obelisk]

Those two wins consisted of a backs to the wall siege against the mighty QPR and a couple of scratchy goals against bottom of the league Wednesday. I'm really not convinced but if the bloke wins the next 3 then I'll eat humble pie. Otherwise St Mary's will not be a pleasant place to be.

 

[Fitzhugh Fella]

39 minutes ago, Thripp87 said:

Tonda has won 2 out of 2.

Yes it’s a gamble, but so is trusting Sports Republic to appoint someone currently not in the set up. We know they will balls that up and it will be another manager to pay off.

I am more than happy to see Tomda given a chance. Out of the names being listed he is no worse.

Carrick - achieved nothing at Boro. Rob Edward’s outperformed him in 3 months.

Martin - complete no hoper who is to blame for the mess we are in now.

O Neil - no chance to appoint him, a couple of bad results and toxicity would be through the roof.

Rogers - unrealistic.

So the least worst option has suddenly become the Mesiah? My God we are really up that creek without rowing implements.

[Katalinic]

9 minutes ago, pingpong said:

Seems like a fair bit of competition for managers, and only low quality available.  We're in a good position to hold steady with tonda and see if the landscape improves in December January.  Middlesbrough more attractive than us right now.

Waiting to see who gets sacked from the top leagues over the next couple of months is a valid strategy.

 

You think Sport Republic have a strategy? 🤣🤣

[Dr Who?]

Just now, obelisk said:

Those two wins consisted of a backs to the wall siege against the mighty QPR and a couple of scratchy goals against bottom of the league Wednesday. I'm really not convinced but if the bloke wins the next 3 then I'll eat humble pie. Otherwise St Mary's will not be a pleasant place to be.

 

If he manages to win the next 3, he really should resign and manage Barca! 

[Lighthouse]

8 minutes ago, pingpong said:

Seems like a fair bit of competition for managers, and only low quality available.  We're in a good position to hold steady with tonda and see if the landscape improves in December January.  Middlesbrough more attractive than us right now.

Waiting to see who gets sacked from the top leagues over the next couple of months is a valid strategy.

TBH, that’s probably more sensible than rushing into a panicked appointment. None of the names we’ve been linked with have been awe-inspiring, so far. Tonda not being a disaster in the last two games at least buys us a bit of time to find the right guy.

[Katalinic]

1 minute ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

So the least worst option has suddenly become the Mesiah? My God we are really up that creek without rowing implements.

It's the Sport Republic and Budget playbook - put out the worst case scenarios so the reality doesn't seem quite as bad as expected.

[Dr Who?]

That’s it, everyone has finally lost the plot! Even members posts that I have respect for their input has gone out of the window. Let’s just watch our clubs hopes of promotion go the same way as we stumble through mistake after mistake! 

Edited 1 hour ago by Dr Who?

[Toussaint]

8 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said:

Jesus Christ 

Yes my child?

[danjosaint]

Wasn't it MB, apologies if it wasn't say someone else was interviewed and came across really well

[Mboto Gorge]

54 minutes ago, Thripp87 said:

 

 

54 minutes ago, Thripp87 said:

Tonda has won 2 out of 2.

Yes it’s a gamble, but so is trusting Sports Republic to appoint someone currently not in the set up. We know they will balls that up and it will be another manager to pay off.

I am more than happy to see Tomda given a chance. Out of the names being listed he is no worse.

Carrick - achieved nothing at Boro. Rob Edward’s outperformed him in 3 months.

Martin - complete no hoper who is to blame for the mess we are in now.

O Neil - no chance to appoint him, a couple of bad results and toxicity would be through the roof.

Rogers - unrealistic.

🤣🤣🤣fuck about , I knew we had some clueless fans but this takes the piss, all on the basis of 2 wins against two very poor sides, with a squad worth 10 times the value of both, whilst being battered for the final 20 mins at QPR and hanging on pathetically for dear life with zero plan, and suddenly the man who’s never been a manager before is the best option above those other names, you couldn’t make this up.
 

I’ll give it to SR , they have definitely picked the right club to pull the wool over the fans eyes with how thick and easily pleased  some of ours are. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Mboto Gorge

[die Mannyschaft]

Oh well could be worse, I'm watching England v Serbia and its largely very boring by apparent world class players and a manager. Not much difference than Championship so Saints best save thier dosh and play safe. 

[Paul_B]

12 minutes ago, Dr Who? said:

That’s it, everyone has finally lost the plot! Even members posts that I have respect for their input has gone out of the window. Let’s just watch our clubs hopes of promotion go the same way as we stumble through mistake after mistake! 

Sorry to break it to you but our hopes of promotion went out the window a couple of months ago.

[Dr Who?]

Even odds checker have removed our next manager odds. They have got bored. 

I have said how I feel, I will be back during the next game thread. 

Enjoy all ❤️ 

[Dr Who?]

2 minutes ago, Paul_B said:

Sorry to break it to you but our hopes of promotion went out the window a couple of months ago.

Take a look at the table and how many games are left you plum! Get the right manager and promotion is for any clubs who put a good run together. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Dr Who?

[Suhari]

23 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said:

Jesus Christ 

Not so good with crosses.

etc.

[Harry_SFC]

4 minutes ago, Paul_B said:

Sorry to break it to you but our hopes of promotion went out the window a couple of months ago.

Absolute rubbish 

[Lighthouse]

4 minutes ago, die Mannyschaft said:

Oh well could be worse, I'm watching England v Serbia and its largely very boring by apparent world class players and a manager. Not much difference than Championship so Saints best save thier dosh and play safe. 

That would be England who are on their way to eight wins out of nine under Tuchel, the only defeat being a friendly.

[stknowle]

Are people not getting a tad carried away with their outrage here? Don’t get me wrong I don’t want him to be appointed but - unless I’m missing something - he hasn’t been. If the right man isn’t available right now then holding out until he is with T.E in charge in the meantime doesn’t necessarily seem like the worst option. 

That said SR are a proven bunch of clueless cunts so I expect his appointment to be announced before breakfast.

[CB Fry]

51 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

 

I'm certainly not saying I want him, but it may be a case that the Board are not impressed with anyone who has interviewed yet - to be honest looking at the realistic names they all look extremely underwhelming. The best option is probably RM, and he's not a good option.

This buys us time for further sackings etc to take place.

But it's not that common for managers to be sacked and then step into another job within a couple of weeks. Far more common for them to take months / a year off.

I'm not sure who you have your eye on who is going to get sacked and then immediately jump to the Championship.

So sorry, this is bullshit. Bimbling about waiting without committing to anyone to revive our season (we can get in the play offs) is woeful stewardship of this club.

Spors is just stubbornly hoping his pet project gets the job and trying to wear down the rest of the decision makers.

 

[Mboto Gorge]

1 minute ago, stknowle said:

Are people not getting a tad carried away with their outrage here? Don’t get me wrong I don’t want him to be appointed but - unless I’m missing something - he hasn’t been. If the right man isn’t available right now then holding out until he is with T.E in charge in the meantime doesn’t necessarily seem like the worst option. 

That said SR are a proven bunch of clueless cunts so I expect his appointment to be announced before breakfast.

Your last sentence I feel is the main reason for the outrage. We’ve been here before 

[OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint]

11 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

TBH, that’s probably more sensible than rushing into a panicked appointment. None of the names we’ve been linked with have been awe-inspiring, so far. Tonda not being a disaster in the last two games at least buys us a bit of time to find the right guy.

Fans do get a say with this club. I'm guessing SR were seriously thinking about Gary O'Neill so they put the word out and the Northam gave them the answer. Now they're struggling so find a suitable replacement so they're telling us through their media channels thar they're probably going to play for time with Tonda and will see what us fans say about it at the next games. 

Personally, I think they've got themselves stuck in a corner because they didn't have a Plan A or B when they got rid of Will Still.

My recommendation. Ralph Hassenhutl gave Oriel Romeu his chance to re-establish himself after Mark Hughes didn't play him. Ralph and Oriel have a mutual respect for each other. These two could change our fortunes. If there is a way Ralph can be brought in as an advisor/mentor to Tonda (there's been plenty on management duos in football history),it would have my backing.