New Manager Debate

[Wade Garrett]

5 hours ago, vectraman said:

I sincerely hope all of this rumour is nonsense and a smokescreen for getting a decent experienced no nonsense manager in.

Saints despite being a basket case to us fans is an attractive job, will pay well, and has great facilities.  Any sub premier league level manager would want to be considered for this vacancy - to say there are no suitable candidates for a highly paid, excellent opportunity, in the whole world except (allegedly) Tonda who has no actual management experience of a professional league men’s team is mind meltingly complete bullshit.

We absolutely MUST get a respected manager in, who isn’t mates with the team, isn’t being “heavily guided” by Sports Republic to tactics/formations/individual players who should be in the side. TE would be no more than a Sports Republic puppet. My own opinion, but until we bin off Jack Stephens, THB, Flynn Downes who I believe are poisonous to the team harmony, we will get nowhere. Sell them, erase Russel Martin from the team fabric and I believe the team will be all the better for it.

If we end up with TE as manager, and suffer 5 at the back, safety first boring football, with Bazunu in goal, then for me I’m done with it. I’d rather have had Gary o’Neil as manager, despite his blue associations, all day long rather than a nobody who has managed nobody, and will have the respect of nobody in the dressing room.

SR - get this appointment wrong, and you’ll have blown all of the fans patience and goodwill. Even on the Sainsweb site next manager vote TE got 5%. Says it all.

The issue is the underlying player power that certain players clearly have. If you pander to these pussies you are basically selling out on any hope of progressing this season. They need a giant kick up the ass, not an easy life.

Sort it, or ship out. You waste £7 million on a German unknown striker who is of no use whatsoever, that will get you pretty much any manager out there. I believe the issue is your leadership SR, your lack of understanding of the English game, and your pig headed ‘cleverness’ which most fans see as unbelievable smugness.

Ball is in your court….don’t fuck this up please…

Brilliant post.

[Maggie May]

5 hours ago, vectraman said:

I sincerely hope all of this rumour is nonsense and a smokescreen for getting a decent experienced no nonsense manager in.

Saints despite being a basket case to us fans is an attractive job, will pay well, and has great facilities.  Any sub premier league level manager would want to be considered for this vacancy - to say there are no suitable candidates for a highly paid, excellent opportunity, in the whole world except (allegedly) Tonda who has no actual management experience of a professional league men’s team is mind meltingly complete bullshit.

We absolutely MUST get a respected manager in, who isn’t mates with the team, isn’t being “heavily guided” by Sports Republic to tactics/formations/individual players who should be in the side. TE would be no more than a Sports Republic puppet. My own opinion, but until we bin off Jack Stephens, THB, Flynn Downes who I believe are poisonous to the team harmony, we will get nowhere. Sell them, erase Russel Martin from the team fabric and I believe the team will be all the better for it.

If we end up with TE as manager, and suffer 5 at the back, safety first boring football, with Bazunu in goal, then for me I’m done with it. I’d rather have had Gary o’Neil as manager, despite his blue associations, all day long rather than a nobody who has managed nobody, and will have the respect of nobody in the dressing room.

SR - get this appointment wrong, and you’ll have blown all of the fans patience and goodwill. Even on the Sainsweb site next manager vote TE got 5%. Says it all.

The issue is the underlying player power that certain players clearly have. If you pander to these pussies you are basically selling out on any hope of progressing this season. They need a giant kick up the ass, not an easy life.

Sort it, or ship out. You waste £7 million on a German unknown striker who is of no use whatsoever, that will get you pretty much any manager out there. I believe the issue is your leadership SR, your lack of understanding of the English game, and your pig headed ‘cleverness’ which most fans see as unbelievable smugness.

Ball is in your court….don’t fuck this up please…

This needs to be printed out and put on Dragan’s desk.

[Sheaf Saint]

1 hour ago, Maggie May said:

This needs to be printed out and put on Dragan’s desk.

Or, just to be certain, we should get the guys from Lead By Donkeys to project it onto the front of SMS. 

[Miltonaggro]

10 hours ago, Dr Who? said:

If he manages to win the next 3, he really should resign and manage Barca! 

Or Middlesbrough...

[Farmer Saint]

9 hours ago, CB Fry said:

But it's not that common for managers to be sacked and then step into another job within a couple of weeks. Far more common for them to take months / a year off.

I'm not sure who you have your eye on who is going to get sacked and then immediately jump to the Championship.

So sorry, this is bullshit. Bimbling about waiting without committing to anyone to revive our season (we can get in the play offs) is woeful stewardship of this club.

Spors is just stubbornly hoping his pet project gets the job and trying to wear down the rest of the decision makers.

 

We'll just have to agree to disagree. I have seen literally no-one mentioned who I would be happy with, so if this this buys us more time then great.

[Katalinic]

4 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

We'll just have to agree to disagree. I have seen literally no-one mentioned who I would be happy with, so if this this buys us more time then great.

"Johannes, before we rubber stamp the appointment and make the offer, can you check that Farmer Saint has signed off on it and is happy?".

[TheAlehouseBrawlers]

9 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

We'll just have to agree to disagree. I have seen literally no-one mentioned who I would be happy with, so if this this buys us more time then great.

Just out of interest, what does your football agent mate have to say, he seemed to be somewhat in-the-know previously?

[Hopper]

The reality is there’s not a lot of concrete information out there either way about what’s going on behind the scenes. When we’re to the point that we’ve got talk sport walking back about stories about TE being made permanent it’s pretty clear that no one is even getting a sniff at the current hiring process.

Just an observation but this probably speaks to Spors team and how they operate as little was known about a good few of our summer signings until just before signing, same with Ori’s return actually.

At the moment the only thing for sure, is that nothing is for sure.

[Fitzhugh Fella]

7 hours ago, vectraman said:

I sincerely hope all of this rumour is nonsense and a smokescreen for getting a decent experienced no nonsense manager in.

Saints despite being a basket case to us fans is an attractive job, will pay well, and has great facilities.  Any sub premier league level manager would want to be considered for this vacancy - to say there are no suitable candidates for a highly paid, excellent opportunity, in the whole world except (allegedly) Tonda who has no actual management experience of a professional league men’s team is mind meltingly complete bullshit.

We absolutely MUST get a respected manager in, who isn’t mates with the team, isn’t being “heavily guided” by Sports Republic to tactics/formations/individual players who should be in the side. TE would be no more than a Sports Republic puppet. My own opinion, but until we bin off Jack Stephens, THB, Flynn Downes who I believe are poisonous to the team harmony, we will get nowhere. Sell them, erase Russel Martin from the team fabric and I believe the team will be all the better for it.

If we end up with TE as manager, and suffer 5 at the back, safety first boring football, with Bazunu in goal, then for me I’m done with it. I’d rather have had Gary o’Neil as manager, despite his blue associations, all day long rather than a nobody who has managed nobody, and will have the respect of nobody in the dressing room.

SR - get this appointment wrong, and you’ll have blown all of the fans patience and goodwill. Even on the Sainsweb site next manager vote TE got 5%. Says it all.

The issue is the underlying player power that certain players clearly have. If you pander to these pussies you are basically selling out on any hope of progressing this season. They need a giant kick up the ass, not an easy life.

Sort it, or ship out. You waste £7 million on a German unknown striker who is of no use whatsoever, that will get you pretty much any manager out there. I believe the issue is your leadership SR, your lack of understanding of the English game, and your pig headed ‘cleverness’ which most fans see as unbelievable smugness.

Ball is in your court….don’t fuck this up please…

This is a good post apart from alleging Jack Stephens "is poisonous to team harmony". The bloke absolutely bleeds red and white these days (see his reaction to the goals v QPR).

Eckert has won two games vs very average opponents, but you only have to look at Sheffield's goal last Saturday to see how muddled the thinking still is. Baz played it short, there were a couple more short passes until we passed ourselves into a tight situation which resulted in Manning (I think it was) hoofing it diagonally upfield where it went straight to the guy who then ran on and scored. it was utter suicidal Russell Martin type moronic garbage. (By the way I see there are two saddoes voting for Martin on here - WTF).

[Farmer Saint]

5 minutes ago, TheAlehouseBrawlers said:

Just out of interest, what does your football agent mate have to say, he seemed to be somewhat in-the-know previously?

Don't speak to him anymore - our wives fell out.

[Farmer Saint]

26 minutes ago, Katalinic said:

"Johannes, before we rubber stamp the appointment and make the offer, can you check that Farmer Saint has signed off on it and is happy?".

Sorry, I didn't realise we weren't allowed to have opinions on here.

Who do you like then?