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Posted by Miltonaggro,

Apologies for the war and peace post chaps – bear with or scroll past.  For the last week I have been trying to provide a steer on here as to why I think this silly episode will be concluded with a fine (in the region of £200k) and / or a possible future points deduction (though if I were advising Saints I would appeal this).  Simply that talk of forfeit and bans opens a legal can of worms that is well beyond the remit and scope of both the EFL and / or Middlesbrough FC. The best way to get

What a well thought out post. Thank you

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Outstanding.

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Turkish

Turkish

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1 hour ago, LegalEagle said:

Ross is in the Scotland squad

The injury to Middlesbroughs Conway against us open the door to him, it’s like stamping on a puppy isn’t it

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skintsaint

skintsaint

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1 minute ago, benjii said:

Lol? What?

For legal aid work, maybe. A top silk is charging 4 figures an hour for private work.

What they charge coming through where i work...

sadoldgit

sadoldgit

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2 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

What they charge coming through where i work...

Depending on a range of circumstances they can charge between £500 and £2500 per hour plus VAT.

skintsaint

skintsaint

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Just now, sadoldgit said:

Depending on a range of circumstances they can charge between £500 and £2500 per hour plus VAT.

Just checked another £230 p/h.

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skintsaint

skintsaint

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Just now, sadoldgit said:

Depends on Chambers (higher in London) and types of cases.

Yep true, these are London-based.

On more interesting news....still waiting for a decision

r/Championship - r/Championship waiting for EFL to make a decision

 

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benjii

benjii

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3 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

Just checked another £230 p/h.

Well, that's half of a trainee solicitor rate at a standard large law firm in London so it's either fixed-rate public work or these are junior local barristers or there's something weird going on!

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skintsaint

skintsaint

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Just now, AlexLaw76 said:

Boro players have the day off, apparently

thought they would be hard at it preparing for Saturday 

Another day off? They had last weekend off as well.

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Saint86

Saint86

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Just now, Saint_clark said:

We're at the point of checking hourly rates for legal aid or chamber renting or anal cleansing or something now. 

Can't wait for this season to end at this point.

Hold on, i'd rather wait until saturday evening for it to end myself. I dont want us kicked out 😄

trousers

trousers

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52 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

I worked for The Times (the fourth generation of my family to do so) just before Murdoch bought it and was very proud to do so as it was held in such high regard. When the takeover was announced the moral on the newspaper went through the floor as they new it was the end.

Yeah... and their spelling deteriorated too... ;)

Edit: damn... Beaten to it... Difficult to keep up with this thread! 

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Miltonaggro

Miltonaggro

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28 minutes ago, Waterside.saint said:

I suppose if they're being paid by the EFL they might be limited on hours, goodness knows what a KC's hourly rate is now

 

All of this will be retained fixed fee rather than hourly, they are acting as arbitrators. Prestige on the day job. 

Saint Scott

Saint Scott

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2 minutes ago, Waterside.saint said:

Well it's about time for someone ITK to predict 'something big' at 2pm

Just wanted to pass this on.

My brother's mates nans acquaintance heard from the milkman's cousin that there may or may not be an update passed on to the press. They're suggesting we may have a big update on the case in an hour

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sadoldgit

sadoldgit

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3 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

£75 where I work.

I did actually have a session of colonic irrigation some 20 years ago but can’t recall how much they charged. Did the trick though so well worth the money.

trousers

trousers

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24 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

anal cleansing 

 

22 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

£75 where I work.

C&A?

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Potentially more amusing...
trousers

trousers

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7 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

I did actually have a session of colonic irrigation some 20 years ago

Same output as working for a national newspaper then...?

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trousers

trousers

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2 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

Bring the shears and saddle up lads, this is a three-man job

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Hmm... I think I've seen that foliage somewhere before on this thread....

#fullcircle (literally)

Waterside.saint

Waterside.saint

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From the Beeb- haven't seen this posted here yet: 

Boro want Saints to be thrown out of the play-offs, arguing that spying on their preparation "goes to the heart of sporting integrity and fair competition".

If Southampton are found guilty - and they have not issued any kind of denial - then all options are on the table for the independent disciplinary commission.

The hearing began at 09:00 BST and a decision is expected later on Tuesday, but there is the chance it could drag on into Wednesday. It all comes down to how much time is needed for deliberations.

No-one can predict how this will end.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c87ql0g27jno

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Turkish

Turkish

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Just now, Waterside.saint said:

From the Beeb- haven't seen this posted here: 

Boro want Saints to be thrown out of the play-offs, arguing that spying on their preparation "goes to the heart of sporting integrity and fair competition".

If Southampton are found guilty - and they have not issued any kind of denial - then all options are on the table for the independent disciplinary commission.

The hearing began at 09:00 BST and a decision is expected later on Tuesday, but there is the chance it could drag on into Wednesday. It all comes down to how much time is needed for deliberations.

No-one can predict how this will end.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c87ql0g27jno

The whole reaction to this is mental isn’t it totally whipped up by Middlesbrough. It’s not even an offence in most of the football world is it?

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Andy Hill

Andy Hill

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My take on it is that the final will still go ahead on Saturday. Too many challenges to change it…& it would not be fair to Hull to change it.

The question is what happens if they rule against us and we appeal ??

Appy

Appy

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1 minute ago, Waterside.saint said:

From the Beeb- haven't seen this posted here: 

Boro want Saints to be thrown out of the play-offs, arguing that spying on their preparation "goes to the heart of sporting integrity and fair competition".

If Southampton are found guilty - and they have not issued any kind of denial - then all options are on the table for the independent disciplinary commission.

The hearing began at 09:00 BST and a decision is expected later on Tuesday, but there is the chance it could drag on into Wednesday. It all comes down to how much time is needed for deliberations.

No-one can predict how this will end.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c87ql0g27jno

“No one can predict how this will end” 

 

I give you a 130-page forum thread. 

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trousers

trousers

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1 minute ago, Waterside.saint said:

From the Beeb- haven't seen this posted here: 

Boro want Saints to be thrown out of the play-offs, arguing that spying on their preparation "goes to the heart of sporting integrity and fair competition".

If Southampton are found guilty - and they have not issued any kind of denial - then all options are on the table for the independent disciplinary commission.

The hearing began at 09:00 BST and a decision is expected later on Tuesday, but there is the chance it could drag on into Wednesday. It all comes down to how much time is needed for deliberations.

No-one can predict how this will end.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c87ql0g27jno

He's referring back to an article he wrote 4 days ago, which I think ties in with Boro's "throwing toys out of pram" press release?

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trousers

trousers

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1 minute ago, Turkish said:

The whole reaction to this is mental isn’t it totally whipped up by Middlesbrough. It’s not even an offence in most of the football world is it?

I think we've been led to believe it's "all" of the football world...?

franniesTache

franniesTache

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I honestly think the funniest thing would be if we had evidence that exonerated us and had just been sitting on it and staying silent letting boro wind themselves up in the press, just to present it at the hearing, get off scott free and then take them to the cleaners for defamation

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Turkish

Turkish

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1 minute ago, franniesTache said:

I honestly think the funniest thing would be if we had evidence that exonerated us and had just been sitting on it and staying silent letting boro wind themselves up in the press, just to present it at the hearing, get off scott free and then take them to the cleaners for defamation

That would be brilliant 

skintsaint

skintsaint

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4 minutes ago, Andy Hill said:

The question is what happens if they rule against us and we appeal ??

If we get kicked out and Hull go up and we win the appeal..

 

Harry Enfield: loadsamoney on Make a GIF

 

 

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Turkish

Turkish

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Just now, DrSuess1979 said:

I disagree

One of us has "guessed" the out come.

and what a laugh we`ve had along the way 

Oh yeah been one of the best threads ever and for one we’ve all agreed!

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Waterside.saint

Waterside.saint

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3 minutes ago, franniesTache said:

I honestly think the funniest thing would be if we had evidence that exonerated us and had just been sitting on it and staying silent letting boro wind themselves up in the press, just to present it at the hearing, get off scott free and then take them to the cleaners for defamation

If 'multiverse' theories are correct, this is very likely

trousers

trousers

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3 minutes ago, franniesTache said:

I honestly think the funniest thing would be if we had evidence that exonerated us and had just been sitting on it and staying silent letting boro wind themselves up in the press, just to present it at the hearing, get off scott free and then take them to the cleaners for defamation

 

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kitch

kitch

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3 minutes ago, DrSuess1979 said:

I disagree

One of us has "guessed" the out come.

and what a laugh we`ve had along the way 

Law of averages suggest at least one person in this thread has guessed the outcome

trousers

trousers

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1 minute ago, kitch said:

Law of averages suggest at least one person in this thread has guessed the outcome

Just as well I've got a new supply of "told you so" medals in stock, ready and waiting for the lucky smart arse(s) :)

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SNSUN

SNSUN

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4 minutes ago, kitch said:

Law of averages suggest at least one person in this thread has guessed the outcome

Two Lesbians probably. Sisters. I'm just watching.

Oh you mean regarding the Independent Review. I'm still large fine and suspended points deduction. To be accurate £2.2 million fine and 3 points suspended. No Saints staff in trouble. Game on as planned.

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