The Spygate Saga

[manji]

2 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

We have enough fake rivalries with Bompey, Brighton etc, don't need one with some nothingy bunch of chokers way up there.

 

2 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

We have enough fake rivalries with Bompey, Brighton etc, don't need one with some nothingy bunch of chokers way up there.

What was the one Forest tries to ramp up when we got back to the PL ? 

[Turkish]

10 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said:

We have enough fake rivalries with Bompey, Brighton etc, don't need one with some nothingy bunch of chokers way up there.

They aren’t rivalries. We don’t really have any rivals which stems back to the days when the DEF were in their pomp. No one wanted to be our rivals as they knew disastrous consequences awaited them. Pompey made up a load of stories for their books but everyone knows the truth about that so called rivalry. We are the most feared fan base in Europe always have been always will be

[Sheaf Saint]

1 hour ago, Farmer Saint said:

So just logged into my Skybet account for the first time since our game, and I'd put a few big bets on Boro towards the end of the game as an insurance bet. 

Turns out they paid out on it!

Every cloud and all that.

Was the bet 'to qualify'? I also did that but the bet was settled on the night as having lost. Seems I need to get back onto Bet365 then.

[swedish dave]

5 hours ago, East Kent Saint said:

Administration of the Prem and EFL is hopeless , their job is difficult against foreign ownership of clubs with multibillion resources.  The rules are back of a fag packet style . Clubs are well aware of spying and don't care so a total rewrite of rules is needed to prevent any more self I tested spy accusations. 

reading between the lines of the EFL "rule"., there is much emphasis on the " 72 hour period " but little else

aside from " the encouragement to fair play and an honest attitude". The assumption being that the same 

"spying " activity taking place 73 hours (or more) before game time is not considered an offence of any sort. 

Hypocrisy of the worst kind, and not worthy of any type of sport. 

The only justice that has come out of the whole mess is that having failed to win any of the 3 games involved

Boro ' did not benefit from their exploitation of the entire case via social media with their crocodile tears. 

[Lard]

Close this thread now. 
we cheated. Got caught. Got sanctions. 
lets move forward….into another abyss of humiliation and failure. 
I for one,can’t wait. 
it’s done. It’s dusted. 
we are an utter shambles. 
but we go together. 

[Mboto Gorge]

16 minutes ago, Lard said:

Close this thread now. 
we cheated. Got caught. Got sanctions. 
lets move forward….into another abyss of humiliation and failure. 
I for one,can’t wait. 
it’s done. It’s dusted. 
we are an utter shambles. 
but we go together. 

We limp on

[Holmes_and_Watson]

17 minutes ago, Lard said:

Close this thread now. 
we cheated. Got caught. Got sanctions. 
lets move forward….into another abyss of humiliation and failure. 
I for one,can’t wait. 
it’s done. It’s dusted. 
we are an utter shambles. 
but we go together. 

Unbeaten in ages (ta @Turkish)

Most in form team in the league

Strong squad. Lots of minutes spread around, depth and a structure to the shape.

Continuing to clear out surplus players.

One our most successful win rate managers in charge.

A committed owner, who has invested despite some setbacks.

Raring to go for 26/27!

 

[stknowle]

12 hours ago, leesaint88 said:

Not as many as people think. Portsmouth, Millwall and Hull are the ones I can think of. You can get a partial view of Wrexham from the hillside behind, but you’ll be certain testing the levels of performance on an iPhone for that one…

You seem quite clued up on this. Fancy a job next season……….?

[Dark Munster]

2 hours ago, swedish dave said:

reading between the lines of the EFL "rule"., there is much emphasis on the " 72 hour period " but little else

aside from " the encouragement to fair play and an honest attitude". The assumption being that the same 

"spying " activity taking place 73 hours (or more) before game time is not considered an offence of any sort. 

Hypocrisy of the worst kind, and not worthy of any type of sport. 

The only justice that has come out of the whole mess is that having failed to win any of the 3 games involved

Boro ' did not benefit from their exploitation of the entire case via social media with their crocodile tears. 

This is an important point. If the EFL try to bring up further charges of spying done by us last season, they need to prove it was done within the 72 hour window. Good luck with that. Unless Parsons/Saints are stupid enough to admit to it.

Oh, wait.

[Patrick Bateman]

4 hours ago, EssEffCee said:

Seems there's more people there saying they're not bothered than here.

I don't consider it a rivalry at all, really odd to do so imo.

Agreed, not a rivalry at all. Banter at the match, yes, but not a rivalry, I don't hate them, that's just silly. 

[Farmer Saint]

3 hours ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Was the bet 'to qualify'? I also did that but the bet was settled on the night as having lost. Seems I need to get back onto Bet365 then.

It was "winner of tie".

[saintant]

1 hour ago, Lard said:

Close this thread now. 
we cheated. Got caught. Got sanctions. 
lets move forward….into another abyss of humiliation and failure. 
I for one,can’t wait. 
it’s done. It’s dusted. 
we are an utter shambles. 
but we go together. 

The whole thing was a shambles. We don't emerge with much credit but nor did we deserve such a stringent penalty. I'm not Karen Brady's biggest fan but her article in the Sun is worth a read for a measured reaction from a neutral with no skin in the game. The EFL took a sledgehammer to crack a nut. They played to the gallery and we were their christian to throw to the lions.

[MB]

Karren Brady’s article is bang on in fairness. Makes you realise the importance of balance and impartiality on the EFL board and subsequent disciplinary hearing which we did not have. Different faces and a probably a different outcome.